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Slashdot's content is entirely community-driven; it's all submitted by the users, for free. What do the editors have to do?
Pay for the Bandwidth and Hosting? After all, That's what this is about- You submitting content and posting comments is informative, yes, but as for the cost? Don't think you're helping there, As all you're doing is adding to the cost.
In short, i see your argument coming off as "I give you my time, effort, and hits, so in turn, you should pay for it out of your pockets."
ZDnet seem to be avoiding the fact that Compaq have their huge TestDrive program. They let anybody (currently)access:
That's the problem with the compaq TestDrive system- a LOT of people are using these machines, and it gets so bogged down that it's hard to tell how the machine actually handles what you're doing, and it makes productivity on the machines terrible.
Hopefully IBM will limit the amount of accounts per physical machine so that this doesn't happen. I'd love to play around on a nice high-end machine that doesn't tend to crawl due to the many many other users currently trying to use it..
What if IBM would have gotten permission from the cities they wanted to deface, though? I can't help but think that they would have been able to get permission in some places, which scares me.
Had that happened, then 5 years from now, we might be seeing ads on EVERY sidewalk. It's even scarier to think that this is probably going to happen anyway.
This is quite true. It's even nicer when they're still up.:) I'm a sysop of the Salt Lake City area's largest BBS, and It's been up for over 10 years, and we're still operating. Those interested can check out the Lower Lights BBS at lowerlights.com, or, the telnet lines are still open, so telnet lowerlights.com will land you here.:)
Well, for those of us on Windows (don't kill me), there's Sensiva. Designed for a mouse, but works great with a Wacom tablet, too.
Having checked sensiva's site the other day, They now have a Beta Linux Version. I haven't played with it yet, as my wacom is not currently set up in linux... But I'm going to some time soon. Sensiva is a great product.
With other single-word Web site addresses such as business.com having sold for millions, and studies showing that sex is a major draw for people on the Internet, the sex.com site was seen as potentially one of the most valuable on the World Wide Web.
The onus of regulating the content intake of "our" children is not on any form of government. It is also not on the 19 yr old clerk in the video arcade. That onus belongs on the parents, and only the parents.
Although this thinking is true, FAR too many parents now want to plop their kids in front of some sort of electronics and let the electronics raise the child.
The real problem here is this: People who either aren't responsible enough or aren't ready to have children and take care of them are having them anyway, and trying to pass of the job of parenting onto other objects, then getting angry when those objects teach their children things they don't want them to.
Parents need to learn that they need to be the ones educating their children against dangerous things, instead of stopping the dangerous things.
:: Are there any big-name software companies that are going to writing games for it?
Apparently there are, though Indrema has never released any details about that.
:: Could I go down to the local Software Etc./Babbages and pick one up or are they going to scratch their heads and not have a clue what I am talking about?
Having tried this myself, I can answer that. As of now, nobody knows about the indrema. Shame, really, but it takes money to Advertise and it takes investors to get money.
Unfortunately, there were some flaws in the business model, such as the Freeware Developer stuff(though, that eventually got fixed)...
I've been following the Indrema for some time, on the mailing lists and et cetera, and It seems that the real problem with the Indrema is the lack of advertising. Almost NOBODY knows about the Indrema, and while I am supportive of Indrema as an idea and a company, it's hard to expect this to turn out good.
Though, There are real problems involved in this, and very legitimate reasons why they haven't been able to advertise (some of the investors apparently didn't want word getting out until things were ready, or something like that). It's a tough market, and indrema really had a very supportive following.
What bothers me about the end of the article is the way this 'mother' is acting.
To elaborate, She will probably blame AOL and the Internet for the rest of her life for what those evil internet people did to her child, and her child was a victim, and blah blah blah.
I'm not saying that the internet is not partially to blame, but to just leave your child in front of a computer, or a video game console or the TeeVee without EDUCATING them about what's good or bad or evil or wrong or happy or productive or whatever is just STUPID. Come on, parents. The Future isn't an excuse for you to let electronics replace you. and I've heard that excuse more than once... "I don't know anything about my child's video games. All I do is buy them!" Moron!
And this stretches as far as to the kinds of people who go ballistic over doom/quake/mortal kombat//etc... What, your child doesn't know that when you frag someone in real life, they don't respawn? Sure, it may not be the most obvious thing int he world at first, but COME ON.
Bottom Line: Some things in this world should NOT be handled by someone not Mature enough to handle them. (duh?) And Parents should be the ones monitoring this kind of thing, not some guy in a cubicle at AOL.
This is extremely obvious, but 'Gnu-Compliant' most likely refers to the/GNU/ General Public License. That's Right, The GNU/FSF have created a free software license. That may very well be what people mean by 'GNU-Compliant'... 'GPL Compatible' may be a better term.
An Intereing note, As much as they spout 'Free! Free! Free! Source Code!!', HelixCode's site does not have Any packages in either the SlackWare.tgz format (big deal, most slack users like to compile from source), or Source Packages other than in SRPM format...
Given, Slackware isn't the #1 distribution, or anything, but if they've gone through the effort to port to Solaris and HPUX and package for them, they ought to make source.tar.gz's available... After all,the Helix gnome is a lot prettier than the normal GNOME one... And Slackware users shouldn't be left in the dust here just because.rpm (and to a lesser extent.deb) is overrated...
Simple. Linus doesn't want it that way. I believe (i'm not involved with kernel development, or linus) that one of the reasons is that in the end, Linus controls what goes into linux, and by using just the 'patch' system, it allows him better control over what goes in and out of the kernel.
Even more likely than that, is that he likes the way he's doing it, so why change because someone ELSE wants CVS? geek stubbornness. we're all born with it.
the Dreamcast blows away the PS2 library thus far.
Yeah, with the dreamcast having a year head-start. Sega's seen this before- The genesis was out far ahead of SNES, with a huge library. yet i'm willing to bet that there are more SNES units in homes than genesis units today.
For your post to be REALLY relevant, you'd be comparing the DC vs. PS2 RELEASE titles.
Really, Taco, we need a PS2 icon so that some of us can add it to the "ignore" list
My Hairy god. you can't just spend 5 seconds scanning the article to NOTICE it's a playstation 2 article and SCROLL past it? is it that magnificently hard? If it's that big of a deal, just put the entire 'games' icon in ignore, or even, seeing as how *5 Seconds* of scanning is so harrd on your rough daily (even on SUNDAY!) schedule, stop reading/. until you get more free time.
One of the things that disgusts me most about the world, currently, is that MANY MANY video games sacrifice plot and playability for graphics and eyecandy. Case in point: I (this is, of course, MY opinion) found Sonic1-3/Sonic&Knuckles to be WAY better games than That Dreamcast Sonic game. Same goes with The Old Mario games up to Mario64. Same goes with FinalFantasy1-6 versus ff7 and especially ff8. Hell, DOOM/DOOM2 were more fun to me than quake*-- not due to graphics, but to the creepier music.
I'm not saying that Pretty Graphics aren't good, I'm saying that gameplay shouldn't be sacrificed for them. And in too many newer games, they are. Today's gamers may like graphics, but they still want games that they can enjoy for a long time.
I have to disagree with the idea of gamecube becoming a huge success due to hardware, or the outselling of PlayStation2... The thing that made me want a playstation2 so badly wasn't just "New System! Great Hardware!".. It was That not only was it a new system, it was backwards compatible with PS1 games AND it has a DVD player. hell. i own 6 times more DVD's than PS2 games. Anyway, this thing (PS2) is a hell of a lot more than a game console. it even SOUNDS like a computer.
back to my original train of thought, however, Nintendo's Systems and Especially Sega's systems seem to get worse and worse every iteration. Even if we saw a full Sega/Nintendo Merger, the system would still go down in flames, soon. I say that because They continuously fail to impress me. I think Sony and MicroSoft will be the big players over the next few years for console systems.. Microsoft because the DirectX API is already used in many systems, so developers are a dime a dozen, And Sony because the systems do so much more.
To repeat: Since the genesis/SNES, nintendo and sega's systems are going downhill. hell, i still play The old Genesis Sonic Games as well as quite a few old SNES games. but the only game i've seen on n64 that REALLY impressed me was waverace64. And I can't think of a single 32x/SegaCD/Saturn game that made the price of the 32x/SegaCD/Saturn even REMOTELY worth it. It seems that the playstation was designed (as well as the xbox) with new ideas in mind. qnd that's what success is: Being different.
Certainly this is interesting for Hack Value, but would anyone seriously want Linux and X running on a machine like this?
I'm not sure i would call it just for hack value. Well, lemme take that back.
maybe hack value has value BESIDES hack value.
One of the things that linux has going for it, and debian, is versatility. Just look at how many processors linux can run on. And debian. debian's about the most versatile distribution. I'm not sure how many on either question, but it's a lot.
Anyway you look at it, it's a drop in a bucket. I'm gonna skip over any 'commercialization is good/bad' arguments, and for now, say any linux support is good for linux.
That said, the drop in the bucket brings us one step closer to the point where there's a hose going full-blast and water bubbling over every edge. or, something to the effect.
Anyway, without the babbling, Linux and Debian versatility means a better view of linux, and in fact, a better linux.
The problem with Freshmeat and Sourceforge is that They're not Archives. Freshmeat especially. It's just a gateway site, pointing to other archives. Sourceforge isn't an archive, because of the organization.
All in all, tho, I'm going to buy that DVD, even if it DOES mean buying a dvd-rom.;)
Or, some people care about it. Why should it be "news for nerds who are sick of hearing of mp3s?" I like the idea of articles posted for all types of people, not just for myself. There are quite a few articles on/. that i don't look twice at. Though, by your logic, i should go to the comments page and post a comment about how the subject is stupid to me, and therefore shouldn't be on slashdot at all. riiighhhtt...
How does this will perform on Debian system ? I used to use apt but I like helix-code. Will Red Carpet use apt as a backend ? Should I make a choice ?
That's exactly what it looks like it is, to me. From the screenshots, it appears to be like ANY apt derivative, like console-apt, or the Storm Package Manager. APT can be modified to use something other than dpkg, and i'd guess this is what they've done for the redhat version. My bet on this is that that little debian icon you see in the shots is for the debian archive...
Definition of an OS And the relation to Linux.
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but i'm not in the mood to fish through all of the comments to check...
It seems, by this article's definition of an OS, that He would not consider Linux an OS, but Debian, RedHat, or any OTHER linux Distribution is an Operating system. Continuing along the lines of this thinking, RedHat/OS and Debian/OS and Slack/OS are all DIFFERENT operating systems that happen to be binary-compatible if the right parts are installed, Right?
Yeah. Suuuure. In reality, All of linux is linux, And therefore one OS. The only differences in the linux world are the init, packaging, and installation.
But how does this relate to Unix WITHOUT Linux factored in? After all, linux is only a Linux Clone, even if it IS a good one. The many Unices Become, via the article's definition of what an operating system is (ignoring the claim that unix ISN'T an OS), Different Operating Systems. When you get Unix now, you DO get more than just the kernel and a shell and some utilities. Unix wasn't designed for desktop use, so it doesn't necessarily NEED a GUI, no matter what Apple wants us to believe.
This Article DOES seem biased in a 'Gui, Gui Uber Alles' kind of Way, doesn't it?
This is how I see it. Whether they admit to it or not, Microsoft is afraid of linux, And i think they've realized that they are not going to be able to KILL linux, as they could kill a more proprietary os.
That in mind, Microsoft has a lot of reasons that Porting Office may be a good idea. For one, office COULD take some market from windows, maybe. But in reality, linux has already taken some from it. And porting office to linux means that, maybe Microsoft could pick up some money from Linux. Plus with the DOJ case, They could be facing a breakup, at which point, The applications company would benefit to no end supporting multiple operating systems.
Of course, They applications DIVISION of microsoft, as of right now, August 2000, Can make more money for microsoft supporting more operating systems. Office makes more money per unit than Windows does, even if they sell less units. Perhaps microsoft is starting to realize that supporting other operating systems than their own for office and things like that MAY be a good idea?
Anyway, Office *IS* a nice product if you turn of the paperclip. It's a high-quality office suite. I'd be half-tempted to BUY at least msWord for linux, if it were out, just because I used it on my parents' computers for a long time... It was a very nice program for doing what i needed to do, for school..
As one of the many Debian users out here, I'm wondering where the deb's are at? At least alien was able to change
it to a deb easy enough.
I never trust aliened packages... I clicked the 'feedback' button and not only asked for a.deb and a slack.tgz, but i even offered to make them for free.;)
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Pay for the Bandwidth and Hosting? After all, That's what this is about- You submitting content and posting comments is informative, yes, but as for the cost? Don't think you're helping there, As all you're doing is adding to the cost.
In short, i see your argument coming off as "I give you my time, effort, and hits, so in turn, you should pay for it out of your pockets."
That's the problem with the compaq TestDrive system- a LOT of people are using these machines, and it gets so bogged down that it's hard to tell how the machine actually handles what you're doing, and it makes productivity on the machines terrible.
Hopefully IBM will limit the amount of accounts per physical machine so that this doesn't happen. I'd love to play around on a nice high-end machine that doesn't tend to crawl due to the many many other users currently trying to use it..
Had that happened, then 5 years from now, we might be seeing ads on EVERY sidewalk. It's even scarier to think that this is probably going to happen anyway.
This is quite true. It's even nicer when they're still up. :) I'm a sysop of the Salt Lake City area's largest BBS, and It's been up for over 10 years, and we're still operating. Those interested can check out the Lower Lights BBS at lowerlights.com, or, the telnet lines are still open, so telnet lowerlights.com will land you here. :)
Having checked sensiva's site the other day, They now have a Beta Linux Version. I haven't played with it yet, as my wacom is not currently set up in linux... But I'm going to some time soon. Sensiva is a great product.
They have to have a STUDY tell them that?
Although this thinking is true, FAR too many parents now want to plop their kids in front of some sort of electronics and let the electronics raise the child.
The real problem here is this: People who either aren't responsible enough or aren't ready to have children and take care of them are having them anyway, and trying to pass of the job of parenting onto other objects, then getting angry when those objects teach their children things they don't want them to.
Parents need to learn that they need to be the ones educating their children against dangerous things, instead of stopping the dangerous things.
Apparently there are, though Indrema has never released any details about that.
Having tried this myself, I can answer that. As of now, nobody knows about the indrema. Shame, really, but it takes money to Advertise and it takes investors to get money.
Unfortunately, there were some flaws in the business model, such as the Freeware Developer stuff(though, that eventually got fixed)...
Though, There are real problems involved in this, and very legitimate reasons why they haven't been able to advertise (some of the investors apparently didn't want word getting out until things were ready, or something like that). It's a tough market, and indrema really had a very supportive following.
Let's hope for the best, eh? *crosses fingers*
To elaborate, She will probably blame AOL and the Internet for the rest of her life for what those evil internet people did to her child, and her child was a victim, and blah blah blah.
I'm not saying that the internet is not partially to blame, but to just leave your child in front of a computer, or a video game console or the TeeVee without EDUCATING them about what's good or bad or evil or wrong or happy or productive or whatever is just STUPID. Come on, parents. The Future isn't an excuse for you to let electronics replace you. and I've heard that excuse more than once... "I don't know anything about my child's video games. All I do is buy them!" Moron!
And this stretches as far as to the kinds of people who go ballistic over doom/quake/mortal kombat//etc... What, your child doesn't know that when you frag someone in real life, they don't respawn? Sure, it may not be the most obvious thing int he world at first, but COME ON.
Bottom Line: Some things in this world should NOT be handled by someone not Mature enough to handle them. (duh?) And Parents should be the ones monitoring this kind of thing, not some guy in a cubicle at AOL.
Given, Slackware isn't the #1 distribution, or anything, but if they've gone through the effort to port to Solaris and HPUX and package for them, they ought to make source .tar.gz's available... After all,the Helix gnome is a lot prettier than the normal GNOME one... And Slackware users shouldn't be left in the dust here just because .rpm (and to a lesser extent .deb) is overrated...
Simple. Linus doesn't want it that way. I believe (i'm not involved with kernel development, or linus) that one of the reasons is that in the end, Linus controls what goes into linux, and by using just the 'patch' system, it allows him better control over what goes in and out of the kernel.
Even more likely than that, is that he likes the way he's doing it, so why change because someone ELSE wants CVS? geek stubbornness. we're all born with it.
Yeah, with the dreamcast having a year head-start. Sega's seen this before- The genesis was out far ahead of SNES, with a huge library. yet i'm willing to bet that there are more SNES units in homes than genesis units today.
For your post to be REALLY relevant, you'd be comparing the DC vs. PS2 RELEASE titles.
My Hairy god. you can't just spend 5 seconds scanning the article to NOTICE it's a playstation 2 article and SCROLL past it? is it that magnificently hard? If it's that big of a deal, just put the entire 'games' icon in ignore, or even, seeing as how *5 Seconds* of scanning is so harrd on your rough daily (even on SUNDAY!) schedule, stop reading /. until you get more free time.
Idiot.
I'm not saying that Pretty Graphics aren't good, I'm saying that gameplay shouldn't be sacrificed for them. And in too many newer games, they are. Today's gamers may like graphics, but they still want games that they can enjoy for a long time.
back to my original train of thought, however, Nintendo's Systems and Especially Sega's systems seem to get worse and worse every iteration. Even if we saw a full Sega/Nintendo Merger, the system would still go down in flames, soon. I say that because They continuously fail to impress me.
I think Sony and MicroSoft will be the big players over the next few years for console systems.. Microsoft because the DirectX API is already used in many systems, so developers are a dime a dozen, And Sony because the systems do so much more.
To repeat: Since the genesis/SNES, nintendo and sega's systems are going downhill. hell, i still play The old Genesis Sonic Games as well as quite a few old SNES games. but the only game i've seen on n64 that REALLY impressed me was waverace64. And I can't think of a single 32x/SegaCD/Saturn game that made the price of the 32x/SegaCD/Saturn even REMOTELY worth it. It seems that the playstation was designed (as well as the xbox) with new ideas in mind. qnd that's what success is: Being different.
I'm not sure i would call it just for hack value.
Well, lemme take that back. maybe hack value has value BESIDES hack value.
One of the things that linux has going for it, and debian, is versatility. Just look at how many processors linux can run on. And debian. debian's about the most versatile distribution. I'm not sure how many on either question, but it's a lot.
Anyway you look at it, it's a drop in a bucket. I'm gonna skip over any 'commercialization is good/bad' arguments, and for now, say any linux support is good for linux.
That said, the drop in the bucket brings us one step closer to the point where there's a hose going full-blast and water bubbling over every edge. or, something to the effect.
Anyway, without the babbling, Linux and Debian versatility means a better view of linux, and in fact, a better linux.
Actually, i believe what was being referred to was Clint Mansell's songs.. There were 3 of them on the soundtrack, and they were written *FOR* Pi.
All in all, tho, I'm going to buy that DVD, even if it DOES mean buying a dvd-rom. ;)
Or, some people care about it. Why should it be "news for nerds who are sick of hearing of mp3s?" I like the idea of articles posted for all types of people, not just for myself. There are quite a few articles on /. that i don't look twice at. Though, by your logic, i should go to the comments page and post a comment about how the subject is stupid to me, and therefore shouldn't be on slashdot at all. riiighhhtt...
That's exactly what it looks like it is, to me. From the screenshots, it appears to be like ANY apt derivative, like console-apt, or the Storm Package Manager. APT can be modified to use something other than dpkg, and i'd guess this is what they've done for the redhat version. My bet on this is that that little debian icon you see in the shots is for the debian archive...
It seems, by this article's definition of an OS, that He would not consider Linux an OS, but Debian, RedHat, or any OTHER linux Distribution is an Operating system. Continuing along the lines of this thinking, RedHat/OS and Debian/OS and Slack/OS are all DIFFERENT operating systems that happen to be binary-compatible if the right parts are installed, Right?
Yeah. Suuuure. In reality, All of linux is linux, And therefore one OS. The only differences in the linux world are the init, packaging, and installation.
But how does this relate to Unix WITHOUT Linux factored in? After all, linux is only a Linux Clone, even if it IS a good one. The many Unices Become, via the article's definition of what an operating system is (ignoring the claim that unix ISN'T an OS), Different Operating Systems. When you get Unix now, you DO get more than just the kernel and a shell and some utilities. Unix wasn't designed for desktop use, so it doesn't necessarily NEED a GUI, no matter what Apple wants us to believe.
This Article DOES seem biased in a 'Gui, Gui Uber Alles' kind of Way, doesn't it?
That in mind, Microsoft has a lot of reasons that Porting Office may be a good idea. For one, office COULD take some market from windows, maybe. But in reality, linux has already taken some from it. And porting office to linux means that, maybe Microsoft could pick up some money from Linux. Plus with the DOJ case, They could be facing a breakup, at which point, The applications company would benefit to no end supporting multiple operating systems.
Of course, They applications DIVISION of microsoft, as of right now, August 2000, Can make more money for microsoft supporting more operating systems. Office makes more money per unit than Windows does, even if they sell less units. Perhaps microsoft is starting to realize that supporting other operating systems than their own for office and things like that MAY be a good idea?
Anyway, Office *IS* a nice product if you turn of the paperclip. It's a high-quality office suite. I'd be half-tempted to BUY at least msWord for linux, if it were out, just because I used it on my parents' computers for a long time... It was a very nice program for doing what i needed to do, for school..
I never trust aliened packages... I clicked the 'feedback' button and not only asked for a .deb and a slack .tgz, but i even offered to make them for free. ;)