Linux has really bad power management compared to XP. Is a common fact that Ubuntu gets nearly Half the battery life on all Lenovo notebooks compared to XP. Just search the lenovo forums.
Example numbers:
Lenovo X60 (Core L2500) Ubuntu: ~14 watts XP: ~8 watts
I'm not being a troll, I use exclusively linux, but the power managament pisses me a lot.
I would like that this message reaches the kernel developers, so they do something about this.
Let the sexist distinction die, please. I'm a normal woman (not an exception to the rule) and I'm a programmer as good as any male programmer.
Female programmers are as capable as male programmers.
If you think differently, please evaluate why you think that way. Most likely, it's a stereotype you have in your head. That stereotype in thousands of heads (both male and female) is what caused the fewer number of women in the CS/IT field.
I can also say (and doubt you or anyone else would disagree) that "men can bench-press more than women (on average)", but have no doubt that the top women weight lifters could put me to shame by comparison.
I'll apologize for not qualifying my generalization as such (I considered it an obvious generalization, but accept my omission), but as a generalization, I stand by what I said.
But why? What data do you use to make that generalization? (I mean the "men are better programmers than women" generalization).
I make the following statement: "men are no better programmers than women, they are equal" and I stand by what I say too. Who is right? Who is wrong? How can we get to a conclusion without a scientific test?
At least I hope that my comments open a little your mind and the mind of other readers, and that no one takes me as "an exception to the rule" but just a normal woman that can program as well as any male, like any woman could do. (Sorry for any english mistakes, english is not my native language)
It's quite reasonable from a pure-logic point of view for the GP to say both "men are better problem solvers" and "women who are good problem solvers exist" without contradicting himself. The truthiness (or not) of his statement is essentially independent from any sort of test that you could take.
Consider this analogy: Men are taller than women. This is true, on average. However, the average does not apply to a special case: it takes about 2 seconds on a busy street to find a tall woman or a short man (both of whom deviate from the average).
Ok, I can see that the logic is correct. But following your analogy, my question is: Are men really taller than women? Why do males affirm that? How can that be proven or disproven?
I believe you that your post was not intended to be flamebait, but I must say it was very frustrating for me (a female programmer) to read.
Someone relates their experience and you talk about your feeling? You're doing it wrong!
why?
But the implication of your post, or perhaps just your title, sends a message that I shouldn't bother trying, because "I'm just not good at it." I don't think this was your intention, but I'd like to point it out as an issue that most, if not all, female programmers are forced to address at least once in our careers.
Can you meet the test he set? I could (maybe), but I haven't had to.
I could too.
One of the most commonly cited reasons for the lack of women pursuing computer-related professions or hobbies (e.g. video games) is that they aren't encouraged--indeed, some say they are actively discouraged--to do so.
If you're so weak willed that you can't deal with people discouraging you from your chosen path, then you won't last too long in it. I was the problem child - my family thought I'd be dead or in jail by 18, so I didn't get much encouragement or support, but look where I ended up - slaving away over hot code.
what would you think then, if the entire culture you are surrounded by affirmed you are worse than your colleagues because of X reason, being X you hair color, eye color, gender, food preference or whatever? Would you feel it is correct, after all all the X persons you met are bad programmers too? Or would you argument that the assumption that you are a worse programmer because of X is a fallacy?
Another example would be a different post in this thread speculating that men were better programmers because they were "wired" to be bigger risk takers (huh?). These arguments, while silly (and probably not ill-intended), still send a message to women that we'll have a harder-than-normal time succeeding in the industry. It's not surprising that many of us choose to try something else instead!
Why is the argument silly? Men used to hunt, while women gathered food and tended to the young. Over 100,000 years or so, this can lead to differences in psychology (which have been confirmed, btw). Who knows, maybe you will have a harder time at it - what you're doing here won't help; you're basically yelling at the guys in charge (such as that exists) to stop being mean instead of stepping up.
If women gathered food and tended to the young, wouldn't that make them better at sedentary activities involving the brain? After all, the males were sweating in the jungle running after prey with bows and arrows, no time for thought exercises.
I'm willing to step up, I want to know if I'm a worse programmer because of being a female, I really do, if that ever is proven to me I will quit my career and start any other business, why stay in CS and forever be cursed to be mediocre? I want to be good and recognized at what I do! It seems there is little chance of that happening in the CS field.
So, what can we do to see if I fit in the "great" category? Are you willing to run a series of experiments? I mean it! What amount of tests would let you satisfied, so you never again think that women are just worse than men?
So, when hired for a job position, is it part of the job description to be single and available to date the coworkers? I don't think so. Women and girls should be hired because of their technical skills, the same way the males are hired. But having to choose between two junior programmers equally qualified, one male, the other female, who do you think will be chosen because of prejudices, stereotypes, and just a notion of who will "fit in" the best?
I'm sure a lot of fresh-out-of-college girls are never given the same opportunities as the males in the same position. And the majority of society just do not believe in females as being capable and equal in this field. Your post is a clear example. Me, I'm beginning to doubt my own capabilities, am I worse than the male programmers? How could I test myself to see? This insecurity is a heavy load in my everyday work life. My motivation (to stay after hours to program a pong in FPGA, for example) suffers because of it too. Why do that, if I'm just an inferior female? I will never get recognition anyway!
What do we have to do to prove ourselves once and for all?
Your boss could have bad performance results with male employees too, but I'm sure he didn't group them mentally as "the males", deciding not to hire males anymore. He did that to females though. That is something that happens in the entire culture at all levels.
First you say "men code better than women simply because men problem-solve better than women" and then you say "which does not mean women can't make excellent coders". So, Which is it? I'm a female programmer and I'm willing to get tested and compared to any male programmer to see if there is any intrinsic difference attributable only to my gender.
If there is no difference caused only by gender, then there sure exists another cause for the low numbers of women in the field. I don't know what that could be, but an inherent "lesser skill" should be proved first before being used as a valid fact, don't you think?
I'm a female programmer, and I can write 10.000 lines of code in a week to produce a working prototype. Can you think of any other test you would like to perform to see if i'm a great, good or bad programmer? How do you think the fact that I have a vagina instead of a penis will affect the results?
So, lets imagine that there is an insect that looks 58% like a green leaf: not exactly like the leaves in its environment, but similar. It reproduces, and 1 of its offspring has a mutation so it looks 59% like a green leaf.
Why do you think that the insect that looks a little bit more like the leaf will reproduce more and ultimately replace completely its species, so all insects of that species now look 59% like a leaf? Did it really get that much advantage over its siblings with that little mutation?
How does it work? I don't find it intuitive at all...
You need to setup an internal newsgroup server. (The usenet kind, NNTP). That way you can have different groups for different topics, every user can suscribe and unsuscribe from any group, plus you have all centralized in a backup-able base.
Also, all mails are neatly organized in each client computer, every user can read them threaded or sorted by date, poster or whatever, and you get solved the "tons of ugly emails are arriving in my inbox" problem, without relying in the ability of each user to set the appropriate filters.
Quoting becomes optional, because on threaded view (in Thunderbird, for example) you can see what mail replies to what mail. The user changes the subject? no problem, the original reply-to is used for threading.
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Linux has really bad power management compared to XP. Is a common fact that Ubuntu gets nearly Half the battery life on all Lenovo notebooks compared to XP. Just search the lenovo forums. Example numbers: Lenovo X60 (Core L2500) Ubuntu: ~14 watts XP: ~8 watts I'm not being a troll, I use exclusively linux, but the power managament pisses me a lot. I would like that this message reaches the kernel developers, so they do something about this.
Let the sexist distinction die, please. I'm a normal woman (not an exception to the rule) and I'm a programmer as good as any male programmer.
Female programmers are as capable as male programmers.
If you think differently, please evaluate why you think that way. Most likely, it's a stereotype you have in your head. That stereotype in thousands of heads (both male and female) is what caused the fewer number of women in the CS/IT field.
But why? What data do you use to make that generalization? (I mean the "men are better programmers than women" generalization).
I make the following statement: "men are no better programmers than women, they are equal" and I stand by what I say too. Who is right? Who is wrong? How can we get to a conclusion without a scientific test?
At least I hope that my comments open a little your mind and the mind of other readers, and that no one takes me as "an exception to the rule" but just a normal woman that can program as well as any male, like any woman could do. (Sorry for any english mistakes, english is not my native language)
Ok, I can see that the logic is correct. But following your analogy, my question is: Are men really taller than women? Why do males affirm that? How can that be proven or disproven?
why?
I could too.
what would you think then, if the entire culture you are surrounded by affirmed you are worse than your colleagues because of X reason, being X you hair color, eye color, gender, food preference or whatever? Would you feel it is correct, after all all the X persons you met are bad programmers too? Or would you argument that the assumption that you are a worse programmer because of X is a fallacy?
If women gathered food and tended to the young, wouldn't that make them better at sedentary activities involving the brain? After all, the males were sweating in the jungle running after prey with bows and arrows, no time for thought exercises. I'm willing to step up, I want to know if I'm a worse programmer because of being a female, I really do, if that ever is proven to me I will quit my career and start any other business, why stay in CS and forever be cursed to be mediocre? I want to be good and recognized at what I do! It seems there is little chance of that happening in the CS field.
So, what can we do to see if I fit in the "great" category? Are you willing to run a series of experiments? I mean it! What amount of tests would let you satisfied, so you never again think that women are just worse than men?
So, when hired for a job position, is it part of the job description to be single and available to date the coworkers? I don't think so. Women and girls should be hired because of their technical skills, the same way the males are hired. But having to choose between two junior programmers equally qualified, one male, the other female, who do you think will be chosen because of prejudices, stereotypes, and just a notion of who will "fit in" the best?
I'm sure a lot of fresh-out-of-college girls are never given the same opportunities as the males in the same position. And the majority of society just do not believe in females as being capable and equal in this field. Your post is a clear example. Me, I'm beginning to doubt my own capabilities, am I worse than the male programmers? How could I test myself to see? This insecurity is a heavy load in my everyday work life. My motivation (to stay after hours to program a pong in FPGA, for example) suffers because of it too. Why do that, if I'm just an inferior female? I will never get recognition anyway!
What do we have to do to prove ourselves once and for all?
Your boss could have bad performance results with male employees too, but I'm sure he didn't group them mentally as "the males", deciding not to hire males anymore. He did that to females though. That is something that happens in the entire culture at all levels.
Care to post your sources?
First you say "men code better than women simply because men problem-solve better than women" and then you say "which does not mean women can't make excellent coders". So, Which is it? I'm a female programmer and I'm willing to get tested and compared to any male programmer to see if there is any intrinsic difference attributable only to my gender.
If there is no difference caused only by gender, then there sure exists another cause for the low numbers of women in the field. I don't know what that could be, but an inherent "lesser skill" should be proved first before being used as a valid fact, don't you think?
I'm a female programmer, and I can write 10.000 lines of code in a week to produce a working prototype. Can you think of any other test you would like to perform to see if i'm a great, good or bad programmer? How do you think the fact that I have a vagina instead of a penis will affect the results?
meh! I can lift 50 libraries of congress with my bare hands!
I don't think she was crying because the other guy was kissing her too much. That's never the case ;)
Have one. Scilab and wxMaxima works perfectly on the eee.
So, there should be no internet anonymity, right?
also, this is modded 5 informative? WTF?
Right here on slashdot, the defenders of privacy and anonymity rights? Unbelievable.
Really?
So, lets imagine that there is an insect that looks 58% like a green leaf: not exactly like the leaves in its environment, but similar. It reproduces, and 1 of its offspring has a mutation so it looks 59% like a green leaf.
Why do you think that the insect that looks a little bit more like the leaf will reproduce more and ultimately replace completely its species, so all insects of that species now look 59% like a leaf? Did it really get that much advantage over its siblings with that little mutation?
How does it work? I don't find it intuitive at all...
Unrelated: I don't believe in creation.
0 killed, maybe you are right, but I remember the case where some kid had his hand chewed off by a bear in Cuttini's zoo:
google translation of an article in "La nacion" newspaper, one million pesos indemnization for that kid:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lanacion.com.ar%2FArchivo%2Fnota.asp%3Fnota_id%3D961913&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=es&ie=UTF8
You need to setup an internal newsgroup server. (The usenet kind, NNTP). That way you can have different groups for different topics, every user can suscribe and unsuscribe from any group, plus you have all centralized in a backup-able base.
Also, all mails are neatly organized in each client computer, every user can read them threaded or sorted by date, poster or whatever, and you get solved the "tons of ugly emails are arriving in my inbox" problem, without relying in the ability of each user to set the appropriate filters.
Quoting becomes optional, because on threaded view (in Thunderbird, for example) you can see what mail replies to what mail. The user changes the subject? no problem, the original reply-to is used for threading.
The poor are more. The rich just have more access to services/stuff/luxuries provided by the poor. The poor breed more.
It's very surprising the amount of websites and software that do not accept spaces in the password. For example, hotmail.