has anybody ever
actually read the comics? They just didn't have the spark that the cartoon did
What are you smoking?
The comics (THE ORIGINAL COMICS) are freaking hilarious. I'm talking about when Edlund was actually the writer, not just the creator. The CHA joke started in the comics. The Tick V. Tick episode was based on a series of the comics. Go back and read issues 1-12 before you dis the comic books again. (You'll note my sig quote here is from issue 1).
I'm not arguing to force Nazi sympathizers underground, I'm mostly pointing out that this BS about how people buying Nazi memorabilia are just WWII buffs is largely just that: BS. People buying Nazi memorabilia are, in every case I've ever been personally aware of, Nazi sympathizers at best, neo-Nazis at worst. What you think the best action to take based on that is appears to depends on what country you live in and what your history was like. Personally I'm happy to live in the US.
Last time I checked, 99% of the people who wanted to buy a Nazi flag agreed with their agenda, their methods, and/or claimed the Holocaust never happened. You don't get much more apologetic than that.
1) What Yahoo did is legal in the US
2) Yahoo tries to sell software to anyone world wide (including the French) via French and American hosted websites
3) This broke French law
4) They were charged since they operated on French soil.
Which of course means that this ruling is completly consistent with typical Judicial rulings: protect your own. In this case, "your own" is national sovereignty, never mind that we try to overrule other nations sovereignty for our own purposes all the time.
We demand that all terrorist assets be frozen by all countries "or else" (which is not to say I don't agree with that action), but we won't brook anyone telling us to not sell essentially terrorist "memorabilia". Consistency is great, isn't it?
There are two types of songs I download from the net: things I can't fscking get any other way, and things I want to hear before I buy them. If I don't like them, I may not delete them from my disk, but I don't listen to them either. No loss to the artist. If I DO like them, I'll go buy the album.
If I had to make such a choice without hearing the music, I wouldn't buy it at all. I've been burned way too damn many times buying albums with only one decent track (can you say White Town boys & girls?) to do otherwise.
As for the things I can't get any other way...if the RIAA would make their entire catalogs available for a reasonable fee (we're not talking the $1+ per song that it costs to get a physical album these days) for download, I would be straight legit for every single track I have. But of course they aren't really interested in that, they want to resell and resell and resell only the most lucrative portions of their catalogs rather than actually disseminate music to the people who want to hear it.
[overlapping windows] are in reality very ineficient.
It just takes a different approach
Ion is the best tool I've ever used for doing this
These sounds just like the arguments for why I should give up my archaic (but very well understood by me) vi editor and use that other one (you know, Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping?). By all means if you work better with Ion, great. But as far as I'm concerned, you can have my overlapping windows when you pry them from my cold dead hands. And I don't mean completely obscuring overlapping I mean partially overlapping.
How about when I want two windows to be of such a size that they take up more than 50% of my window space? I *don't* want magically expanding and contracting windows, and I *do* want the window I'm currently doing something in to be of sufficient size to be useful, so there are times when overlapping is all there is for it.
A good example: I do computer support, and sometimes I'm looking at the logs for two computers to compare and contrast events between them. I need a certain amount of the log to be present, I need enough width that line wraps don't hose the legibility of the log, and I need to switch between the two windows easily to compare them. If they overlap, a front button (handy on my Sparc workstation) lets me switch between them without mousing, and away I go.
If I had to make the two windows fit on screen at the same time, it would be an enormous pain.
It's all about giving me the freedom to work how I work best; if any window manager refuses to allow me to use the paradigm I know and love, I won't fscking use it.
Right. We don't have any government officials who are bought and paid for by corporate deep pockets. And those who are, regularly have people willing to die working against them.
Where exactly do you live again? Not the USA I'm living in.
Just because some slaves were treated well didn't mean they weren't still slaves with all the negatives that implies. In the same way, just because some sweatshop laborers have it better than others did in the past doesn't mean it's not still sweatshop labor.
The issue isn't just the working conditions themselves, it's also what possibilities do these people have to improve those conditions? In the US and Western Europe, we had two things going for us: open "enough" societies and inexperience on the part of corporations with dealing with worker uprisings. Today's situation is different; perhaps the sweatshops aren't so dangerous, but there's a lot less chance of people lifting themselves up to a better standard of living too.
And here's where the problem comes in, because many people on the left side of this argument equate the Costa Rica situation with that in, say, Indonesia. I agree with you completely about Costa Rica, but that's not at all the same as the situation in Nike's sweatshops, for example.
People on BOTH sides need to look at the realities in EACH situation instead of lumping them all together. That way the left can't say "it's all evil exploitation" and the right can't say "it's all voluntary improvement in the standard of living". Because neither description fits all or even most of the cases at issue.
Would you really want to deny people in the 3rd world a chance to move ahead far more quickly than
America ever did?
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Do you call Nike's sweatshops and government assisted oppression of attempts to break them "moving ahead far more quickly than America ever did?" Yes, we had sweatshops here. We also had an established and reasonably open press and government which allowed us to take the necessary steps to break them. If you don't think that corporations have learned from experience and are taking steps to prevent the same thing from occurring overseas, you've got your head where it doesn't belong.</devilsadvocate>
I think that the Economist article makes good points, and globalization shouldn't be confused with corporatism, but corporatism is definitely a big problem.
The Bob Saget interview on Ben Stein's attempt at a talk show was pretty dirty (for Comedy Central anyway) and amusing. Having seen that I believe Wil that Bob is nothing like Full House.
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What are you smoking?
The comics (THE ORIGINAL COMICS) are freaking hilarious. I'm talking about when Edlund was actually the writer, not just the creator. The CHA joke started in the comics. The Tick V. Tick episode was based on a series of the comics. Go back and read issues 1-12 before you dis the comic books again. (You'll note my sig quote here is from issue 1).
Obviously Bill doesn't realize that open source software, while not having that name per se, goes back well before Windows was a glint in his eye.
I'm not arguing to force Nazi sympathizers underground, I'm mostly pointing out that this BS about how people buying Nazi memorabilia are just WWII buffs is largely just that: BS. People buying Nazi memorabilia are, in every case I've ever been personally aware of, Nazi sympathizers at best, neo-Nazis at worst. What you think the best action to take based on that is appears to depends on what country you live in and what your history was like. Personally I'm happy to live in the US.
I don't know that I'd make that statement so definitively....
Last time I checked, 99% of the people who wanted to buy a Nazi flag agreed with their agenda, their methods, and/or claimed the Holocaust never happened. You don't get much more apologetic than that.
Try again.
We demand that all terrorist assets be frozen by all countries "or else" (which is not to say I don't agree with that action), but we won't brook anyone telling us to not sell essentially terrorist "memorabilia". Consistency is great, isn't it?
Sorry about that, Chief.
There are two types of songs I download from the net: things I can't fscking get any other way, and things I want to hear before I buy them. If I don't like them, I may not delete them from my disk, but I don't listen to them either. No loss to the artist. If I DO like them, I'll go buy the album.
If I had to make such a choice without hearing the music, I wouldn't buy it at all. I've been burned way too damn many times buying albums with only one decent track (can you say White Town boys & girls?) to do otherwise.
As for the things I can't get any other way...if the RIAA would make their entire catalogs available for a reasonable fee (we're not talking the $1+ per song that it costs to get a physical album these days) for download, I would be straight legit for every single track I have. But of course they aren't really interested in that, they want to resell and resell and resell only the most lucrative portions of their catalogs rather than actually disseminate music to the people who want to hear it.
Sun hasn't killed Sparc clone makers though.
It just takes a different approach
Ion is the best tool I've ever used for doing this
These sounds just like the arguments for why I should give up my archaic (but very well understood by me) vi editor and use that other one (you know, Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping?). By all means if you work better with Ion, great. But as far as I'm concerned, you can have my overlapping windows when you pry them from my cold dead hands. And I don't mean completely obscuring overlapping I mean partially overlapping.
ah, but some of us aren't afraid of looking like fools.
A good example: I do computer support, and sometimes I'm looking at the logs for two computers to compare and contrast events between them. I need a certain amount of the log to be present, I need enough width that line wraps don't hose the legibility of the log, and I need to switch between the two windows easily to compare them. If they overlap, a front button (handy on my Sparc workstation) lets me switch between them without mousing, and away I go.
If I had to make the two windows fit on screen at the same time, it would be an enormous pain.
It's all about giving me the freedom to work how I work best; if any window manager refuses to allow me to use the paradigm I know and love, I won't fscking use it.
Is that the gas they use to make Saran Wrap? (I believe it's Serin gas ;-)
Which is a damn shame, because to many of us KDE is better, faster, and more likely to be familiar in look and feel for Solaris users.
No, you're wrong. OpenWindows with OLVM was wayyyy better than CDE.
Obviously you missed the part where Indonesia's army came in at Nike's request during points of labor negotiation....
Where exactly do you live again? Not the USA I'm living in.
The issue isn't just the working conditions themselves, it's also what possibilities do these people have to improve those conditions? In the US and Western Europe, we had two things going for us: open "enough" societies and inexperience on the part of corporations with dealing with worker uprisings. Today's situation is different; perhaps the sweatshops aren't so dangerous, but there's a lot less chance of people lifting themselves up to a better standard of living too.
What the hell are you talking about? India turned its back on Capitalism? Not any time recently....
People on BOTH sides need to look at the realities in EACH situation instead of lumping them all together. That way the left can't say "it's all evil exploitation" and the right can't say "it's all voluntary improvement in the standard of living". Because neither description fits all or even most of the cases at issue.
<devilsadvocate> Do you call Nike's sweatshops and government assisted oppression of attempts to break them "moving ahead far more quickly than America ever did?" Yes, we had sweatshops here. We also had an established and reasonably open press and government which allowed us to take the necessary steps to break them. If you don't think that corporations have learned from experience and are taking steps to prevent the same thing from occurring overseas, you've got your head where it doesn't belong.</devilsadvocate>
I think that the Economist article makes good points, and globalization shouldn't be confused with corporatism, but corporatism is definitely a big problem.
If I can install my own 80G drive, I can put all my CDs into it. That would rock.
If you think the fnord is a narf, it can't eat you
The Bob Saget interview on Ben Stein's attempt at a talk show was pretty dirty (for Comedy Central anyway) and amusing. Having seen that I believe Wil that Bob is nothing like Full House.