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Operation Acoustic Kitty

rockville writes: "Remember the Cold War, when intelligence agencies had no oversight and a blank check? Now that those days are back, here's a good object lesson: the Chicago Sun-Times has details about Operation Acoustic Kitty, a CIA program to wire a cat to spy on the Soviet Union. Feel free to be either shocked at the depravity or shocked at the stupidity. The first prototype is also a nominee for Worst Presentation Ever." Hmmm. Last time I posted a story about cats, I got angry email from cat-lovers. Let's see what happens this time.

253 comments

  1. Combining Two Projects... by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...a CIA team tried to chemically treat a cat's dander so that it would rub up against Fidel Castro and cause his beard to fall out.

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    1. Re:Combining Two Projects... by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not? The British conspired to make Hitler lose his power over the German people by bribing a gardener delivering vegetables to Hitler's kitchen.
      He was supposed to inject female hormones in them to make Hitler appear more feminine and thus loose his appeal.
      The gardener probably didn't have the guts to do it, as Hitler never lost his mustache... Cool idea though

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    2. Re:Combining Two Projects... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, pancake, you see my reply to ya?

      Canada #2

    3. Re:Combining Two Projects... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I thought Hitler was gay. Many parts of the early third riech were had an homoerotic nature. I'm not sure if adding more feminism to the guy would have solved anything.

  2. Amazing... by PM4RK5 · · Score: 0

    A couple things. Its amazing that the technology is available to do such a thing! (Thats cool in and of itself).

    But in today's political scene, I'm surprised they can even toss the idea around without getting into trouble with the law and/or SPCA (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals).

    1. Re:Amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, idiot, if you read the article, you'd know they did this in 1966, and it was just a cat with a radio inside. It ain't high tech to cut open an animal, push internal organs aside, and cram in batteries. Plus, the ASPCA generally doesn't oversee top secret projects.

    2. Re:Amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey idiot, it's not nice to call people idiots. Calm down. Sorcerer

    3. Re:Amazing... by fux0rz · · Score: 1

      i killed your k4t

    4. Re:Amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Russians used to train dogs to go towards tanks in WWII. Of course, they used to attach limpet mines to them as well, with the goal being the dog gets to the tank, the mine magnetically attaches, and the tank gets destroyed. What about the dog, you ask? Well, at this point, it is "what dog?"

    5. Re:Amazing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But in today's political scene, I'm surprised they can even toss the idea around

      Didn't you read the article? The test was done in 1966...

    6. Re:Amazing... by spudnic · · Score: 1

      It's amazing that you posted without reading the story...

      The tech is old, and today's political scene has nothing to do with it.

      This was done back in 1966. The information was only recently declassified.

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  3. That was only the beginning by AnimeFreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Today we're seeing robots the size of pennies, that may be the next form of espionage in the next few decades. Heck, we may even make smaller "nano-bots" that can attach itself to the person who is under survailence.

    This also reminds me of the bionic insects I have seen in various magazines such as Popular Science. Cats were only the beginning I will state again.

    1. Re:That was only the beginning by Man+of+E · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The great thing is, the cockroaches (more info at ZZZ) can be radio controlled, which solves many of the problems with cats, such as unpredictability and uncontrollability. Plus, they're slightly less conspicuous.
      Of course, if seen, it might be harder to avoid getting killed than with a cat.
      On a slightly offtopic note, does anyone remember the game Bad Mojo, where you had to steer a cockroach around a bunch of obstacles? That might be good training for future spy-insect operators :-)

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    2. Re:That was only the beginning by AnimeFreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A fly could do a better job actually. With a fly, it can attach itself to the ceiling, wall, floor, or whatever and you wouldn't notice it. With a cockroach, you can easily see it and want to stomp it.

      As long as the radio control works though, if not the then the fly is at risk for being swatted because it will either be in control of it's self, go out of control, or it will drop and be noticed.

    3. Re:That was only the beginning by Man+of+E · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True, but imagine trying to actually operate a fly by remote control in 3D. With the cockroach, you can basically just move in two dimensions by walking forward/backward and rotating, but it's much more complicated with a fly since you have to account for aerodynamics and the like - a fly is more than a tiny RC airplane. Entirely apart from the difficulty of simply flying the thing, I doubt human operators would find it easy to emulate "fly-like" flitting flying patterns.
      The last problem is that, unlike cockroaches, flies can't carry five times their weight while flying around, so you'd have to really miniaturize the electronic equipment. After all, you'd need two cameras (for 3D viewing), wireless transmission equipment and electrodes, all really lightweight and attached in such a way that it doesn't get in the way of wings or legs.
      All in all, I think remote-control flies might still be quite a while off. Cockroaches will have to do for now.

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    4. Re:That was only the beginning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Kind of puts into perspective God's talents as the original engineer, doesn't it. Robotics is my original field, and anyone who's studied it very quickly becomes struck by how the best robotic subsystems we can even imagine (nanotech and all) are just incredible kludges next to the real thing.

      Mimicry of biosystems is a good way to learn, but it will be a very long time (if ever) before we can make a robot fly that has even a tiny fraction of the capabilities of a real fly. (Just try and duplicate those compound eyes...) The same goes for cats, which explains the rationale behind this truly gruesome experiment - they knew they couldn't make a fake cat that would fool anyone, so they implanted the smallest radio transmitter they could get into a real cat. (And remember that in 1966, even the best one-off military technology might have made that a sizable package...)

  4. Ridiculous idea by ergo98 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There's an old saying about trying to herd cats...

    Seriously though, what were they thinking? Apart from the moral and ethical depravity of it, logically it seems like a pretty stupid plan to begin with: Was the cat fed wet food from a picture of the person whom it was supposed to befriend? For anyone who has a cat, you know from the beginning that these morons obviously didn't.

    1. Re:Ridiculous idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard to imagine spending $10 million USD on this type of project. My guess is much of the funding for "Acoustic Kitty" was meant to be redirected to some other operation. If that is what happened, then the Acoustic Kitty project itself was a fraud on the US citizens and their idiot congresscritters.

  5. Declassified documents on Acoustic Kitty by Black+Acid · · Score: 5, Informative
    Guardian Unlimited has an article, Project: Acoustic Kitty, which says:
    A fresh batch of newly declassified CIA documents, however, provides a more nuanced picture of the CIA's directorate of science and technology. The documents - requested under the Freedom of Information Act by Jeffrey Richelson, a senior fellow at the national security archive in Washington - chart the development of the extraordinary US spy satellites as well as the U-2 and A-12 spy planes. But they also record some of the gaffes and wrong turns along the way, which reveal the CIA's boffins to be as accident-prone as any government institution.


    The "Acoustic Kitty" is one of the CIA's many failures. You can download the declassified documents at George Washington University. Most relevent is Document 27: Views on Trained Cat Use. Interesting read straight from the horse's mouth.
    1. Re:Declassified documents on Acoustic Kitty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are they pdf's?

      It's not like I want to print this out on dead trees.

      Fuck I hate pdf.

    2. Re:Declassified documents on Acoustic Kitty by sam_handelman · · Score: 1

      ... program would not lend itself in a practical sense to our specialised needs. (quote from link in previous posters article.)

      They mocked my research! But I'll show them, I'll show them all! Hordes of highly trained special kitty operatives will spring from my underground base and bring the world to it's knees! Bwah hah hah hah!

      I would've gotten away with it, if not for you kids!

      I wonder if you could genetically engineer a form of anthrax that didn't kill the cat but did kill people and was released in the cats dander (where it could nonlethaly infect other cats).

      ... which reveal the CIA's boffins to be as accident-prone as any government institution.

      How about the NSA? Sure, the NSA makes mistakes, but it never tries to sick killer felines on people, and none of it's agents collect human ears. More amusing stories of CIA stupidity and brutality can be found here. Not to mention the big brutal stupidity of the CIAs unconscionable behavior in, you guessed it, Afghanistan.

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    3. Re:Declassified documents on Acoustic Kitty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pussy document file? Je l'aime!

  6. And then... by Angry+Black+Man · · Score: 1

    Then the Soviets copied our idea, sending acoustic kitties into the caves of Afghanistan in the 70s. When the cats were killed they immediately gave up and said that surely the US couldn't suceed there.

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  7. Wodka! Wodka! by AcidDan · · Score: 5, Funny

    [And so Operation "Cat Nap" comes unglued when an unexpected event occurs...]

    General1: "Pavelovich? what is your kitty doing here?"

    General2: "It is not my kitty..."

    General1: "I wonder if it is true Russian Kitty..."

    General2: "I will fetch the Vodka."

    General1: "Let us see if you drink Vodka like true Russian Kitty..."

    -- Dan =)

    1. Re:Wodka! Wodka! by Dylbert · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget those crazy fur hats they wear. If they were tempted, one of them might end up wearing the microphone on their head.

      Good plan, CIA!

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    2. Re:Wodka! Wodka! by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 1

      LOL...oh god, that's funny.

  8. success? by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

    according to the article, the prototype cat was run over in the test trial (they took it to a park and it was run over by a taxi).

    Clearly suicide.

    And BTW, you guys think maybe the parts that are still classified are the ones about the later models that worked right?
    Listen to me, I'm talking about cyborg cats like I would about cars...

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    1. Re:success? by joshyboy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they just unclassified the so-called failures...what about the models that work correctly? *peers outside* The cats are watching, the cats....

  9. Meow meow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    You KNOW it was Carl Yablonski's cat they were gonna wire up.

    MRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW! What's this microphone crammed up my ass? MRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

    1. Re:Meow meow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In my haste to be a quick poster I'm afraid I mistakenly referred to "Carl" Yablonski when I meant to refer to the perennial CLIFF Yablonski. I apologize profusely and hope I have not damaged the impeccable integrity of Slashdot.org

      Good night, and God bless.

    2. Re:Meow meow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is somethingawful ever coming back? I need Cliff!

  10. That's a better idea than... by bytes256 · · Score: 1

    giving the boys acid and letting them jump out of windows...

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    1. Re:That's a better idea than... by VB · · Score: 2, Funny


      giving the boys acid and letting them jump out of windows...


      then landed into the CIA and came up with this cool surveillance idea that involved cats....

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  11. It seems to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that many cat lovers are less intelligent than their cats.

  12. idiotic idea by jonestor · · Score: 1

    Does anybody else think that this was a really idiotic idea?

    What the heck else did the CIA try?

  13. Bonsai! by themaddone · · Score: 4, Funny

    Instead of a wired cat, maybe we should send the Taliban a wired Bonsai Kitten. Considering their love of life, they'll enjoy it, and as a room decoration, it's second to none.

    http://www.bonsaikitten.com

    1. Re:Bonsai! by mike_the_kid · · Score: 1

      Just when you think you've seen the last one, there it is.

      I have to admit, I love the mewing jars that line my shelves. Cleanup is no problem, but I have to do an informal "Ask Slashdot" -- Do they go in the recycling or the trash when its time to get the latest model?

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    2. Re:Bonsai! by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > http://www.bonsaikitten.com

      Well, at least it's nice to see our government standing up for kitten rights by harassing people who make jokes about h4x0ring kittens.

      What was that old saying about people who accuse someone of doing "X" are more than likely guilty of "X" themselves?

  14. Linux by Lefty2446 · · Score: 0

    Pity it coulden't have ran linux as then it really would have been one cool cat...

  15. red mice by gibbonboy · · Score: 1

    Maybe someday they will declassify the tapes of all those mice speaking russian. This is almost as goofy as some of the Soviet experiments with animals (or parts thereof).

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  16. Re:Obligatory dead baby joke post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excuse me sir, you forgot to include the answer to question 6. Could someone please post it? Thanks.

  17. I posted this a month ago by szyzyg · · Score: 1

    But I guess /. doesn't like leading the way any more....

  18. Sigh.... by tsarina · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They say to give the CIA more free reign over what they do, that it would make them more effective. This only solidifies my doubts. They're no more effective, it seems - just have free reign to do stupid things. Like kill cats. Or fail to assassinate Fidel Castro how many times...?

    But we know about those, so perhaps I am incorrect. Perhaps we only hear about what they do wrong; after all, the failure means that it is no threat to our security (except our loss of faith in the CIA?). After all, it's whatever succeeded that would need to be kept secret, so that it could continue to work. You have to wonder... if they make enough stupid mistakes, and know they're stupid enough to be benign in regard to security, perhaps the CIA is somewhat smarter than we think. They know what they do wrong, then perhaps they know what they do right. They'll just never get credit for any of it.

    Golly gee, I've refuted myself again.

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    1. Re:Sigh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      perhaps the CIA is somewhat smarter than we think



      not that smart .... they spent $14M trying to train 1 cat for gods sake

    2. Re:Sigh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give this person a cigar!

      (If I had karma points I'd mod the article up).

    3. Re:Sigh.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of the $14M, only a small amount probably went towards cat food and kitty litter. They probably already had a lot of radio equipment lying around in the lab. So that's mostly $14M in salaries, I'm guessing.

      They sound smart enough to me. So, does the CIA have pointy haired bosses?

  19. Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... a Beowulf cluster of spy kittens going to Afghanistan. Or better yet, a Meta-Beowulf cluster!

    1. Re:Imagine... by secolactico · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then we'd have to call it a Meowulf cluster, shouldn't we?

      Why are you guys groaning???

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    2. Re:Imagine... by srvivn21 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps that should be a Bealion cluster? Beotiger? Beojaguar?

      What?

    3. Re:Imagine... by pogofish · · Score: 1

      If there were 8 nodes in the cluster, you'd have an Octopussy.

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  20. Whats the big news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    People have been putting audio/video equipment into pussies for quite some time. Oh... cats... nevermind.

    1. Re:Whats the big news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like this?

  21. Hmmm... by PhReaKyDMoNKeY · · Score: 1

    I don't think the _idea_ was that terrible... It's the name that gets ya.

    Why don't they spend all that money developing a passable Russian accent so they don't need the bloody cat?

  22. They're lucky. by RasputinAXP · · Score: 1
    If their cat was anything like my cat, she'd just sit in the nearest windowsill all day and refuse to do anything, and if you tried to pick her up there'd be shreds of arm-flesh all over the room.

    Maybe that was their nefarious plan all along!

    1. Re:They're lucky. by rodgerd · · Score: 2

      The at tried doing nothing; according to the article, they sliced and diced the poor creature's brain some more until it stopped trying to eat at inconvenient moments. Bastards.

    2. Re:They're lucky. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are obviously interfering with your cat's surveilance duties.

  23. You have no idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The general population has no idea.

  24. This time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Last time I posted a story about cats, I got angry email from cat-lovers. Let's see what happens this time.

    Ummm...angry letters from CIA lovers?

  25. Conspiracy Theory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, so now a little conspiracy theory, since no day is complete without one. Perhaps these so called failures are just masking the true projects that these millions went to. We won't ask to see the results from a $14 million dollar squashed cat, but we might start asking questions about where $14 million went otherwise. (Not that we would know they had it anyways, but hey, it's a conspiracy theory, it doesn't have to make sense)

  26. omg. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    They took it out to a park and put him out of the van, and a taxi comes and runs him over. There they were, sitting in the van with all those dials, and the cat was dead.''

    That has to be the funniest thing I've heard in quite some time

    Cruel and Morbid, but funny.

    1. Re:omg. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, rent Being John Malkovitch.

      Watch for "malkovitch malkovitch" it's funnier. Get out more. Find a bar with underage (-21) girls. They giggle a lot.

  27. As they say in (fill in the blank)--- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gato: Otra carne blanco :-)

  28. The scary thing by Lurkingrue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The frightening part of this whole debacle -- at least for USians -- is that this took place when the CIA was supposedly competent and well-staffed/well-funded... What does that say for their current capabilities?

    1. Re:The scary thing by Liza · · Score: 2

      That when the CIA is "well-staffed/well-funded" they have too much time and money and in order to justify it, have to think up amazingly stupid and expensive projects? Maybe keeping them a little short on cash will help them set better priorities than borg-ifying cats.

      Liza

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    2. Re:The scary thing by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > this took place when the CIA was supposedly competent and well-staffed/well-funded... What does that say for their current capabilities?

      ...that no matter how much money you throw at the problem, you still can't herd cats?

  29. Hehe by kentyman23 · · Score: 0

    ...a classic joke never gets old :)

  30. kinda pink if your roast it right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but that was probably because I didn't remove the tire tar good enough

  31. ..... by elmegil · · Score: 1

    Sorry about that, Chief.

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    1. Re:..... by Glytch · · Score: 1

      Funny as hell. Thanks for making my day. :)

  32. well.... by erpbridge · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I guess it IS better than posting a story about Katz, in some people's opinions.

    1. Re:well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A story about pussy bests a story about Katz any day. Amen bro!

  33. Bugger by Tekgno · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats probably what they said when the prototype got run over. :)

    For the benefit of the many who are not enlightened enough to be Australian this is funny because we have a Toyota(?) advert over here which involves a farm ute being used for various tasks, the ute is supposedly very powerful and goes over board for every task here are some examples:
    Pulling stump out of ground: Stump gets airborne and smashes up dunny (outside toilet)
    Dog tries to jump onto ute but ute takes off, dog lands in mud and dog says bugger.

    You probably don't have the idea yet but believe me, it is funny (Could some of you other Aussies back me up here before the karma police lock me up?)

    1. Re:Bugger by LabRatty · · Score: 1

      Oi Aussie, hands off!
      That is a kiwi ad, geez guys what you gonna try to steal off us next :)
      We have a few cricketers you are welcome to, assuming of course you don't break them all on us over next few days.

      ratty

    2. Re:Bugger by SuzanneA · · Score: 1

      Actually, we CAN see it over here :)

      www.adcritic.com hosts it, needs quicktime but oh well, it IS funny :)

    3. Re:Bugger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Bugger by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "we have a Toyota(?) advert over here which involves a farm ute being used for various tasks,"

      Sorry but I'm not australian ... what's an 'ute' or specifically a 'farm ute?'

      And what's a 'dunny?'

    5. Re:Bugger by Dylbert · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the McDonalds spinoff with the dog in the back of the ute...

      speaker: "Please place your order"

      dog: "Burger"

      (speakers line may differ from original advert. Hey... it was a long time ago)

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    6. Re:Bugger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its a Pickup

    7. Re:Bugger by nigelc · · Score: 1
      Well, I'm not Australian, but I am multi-lingual.

      A "ute" is a utility vehicle, which is the UV part of SUV. So a "farm ute" is the sort of utility vehicle (4x4) that one would find a farmer driving.

      A "dunny" is a toilet.

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    8. Re:Bugger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an Australian, it would have been funnier to dunk the cat in kerro set fire to it and watch it run around the pool until it jumped in

    9. Re:Bugger by rossdee · · Score: 1

      Ute = Utility - in American that would be pickup truck

      (But of course they are smaller than the american ones, usually have 4 cyl engines.

      Among the other people that use toyota utes are the Taliban - I bet some of them are uttering similar expletives right now...

      Oh and its a NZ ad

    10. Re:Bugger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Q: How do you make a cat sound like a dog?
      A: Douse him in gasoline and throw a match on him.... "wooof!"

      Q: How do you make a dog sound like a cat?
      A: Freeze him solid, and then take a circular saw to him... "breeeaooow!"

    11. Re:Bugger by jgp · · Score: 3, Funny

      But of course they are smaller than the american ones, usually have 4 cyl engines.

      Hence, the term "utility", as opposed to "penis-substitution".

    12. Re:Bugger by MobileC · · Score: 0

      Funny in Kiwiland as well :)

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    13. Re:Bugger by GnulixRulz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Funny, how the jokes we had in Germany in Fifth
      Grade make it across the pond and get regurgitated
      by a supposed sentient being, on a website for
      (one would assume) talented or educated people.

    14. Re:Bugger by Calle+Ballz · · Score: 1

      this can be found on adcritic.com... I saw what he is talking about... it's hilarious

    15. Re:Bugger by staplin · · Score: 2

      You probably don't have the idea yet but believe me, it is funny (Could some of you other Aussies back me up here before the karma police lock me up?)

      I'll back you up, and I'm not even an Aussie. I'm from the US, but I was working over the pond for a month a few years ago. And this commercial had me rolling on the floor of my hotel room laughing, not just once, but at least the first 5 or 6 times I saw it. And it still cracks me up...

      Cheers!

    16. Re:Bugger by Anonymous+Covard · · Score: 1

      But of course they are smaller than the american ones, usually have 4 cyl engines.
      Hence, the term "utility", as opposed to "penis-substitution".


      By U.S. law the latter term is limited to firearms, motorcycles, and sports cars.

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  34. Isn't this one of those recycled /. stories... by Daniel+Wood · · Score: 1

    or am I thinking I saw it on hardocp?

    1. Re:Isn't this one of those recycled /. stories... by Recovery1 · · Score: 1

      You probably read it about two days ago on Fark.com.

  35. hmm by Arecibe · · Score: 1

    the cia should have better thing to do

    1. Re:hmm by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um, genius, in 1966 LBJ (liberal Democrat) was in power.

      In any case, got news for you: it's left wingers that have always been interested in mind control. The Soviet Union and Hitler ring a bell? Who constantly wants larger and larger governments? That would be the left wing.

      Of course, you will respond with "well, why are they trying to expand the FBI's powers? Huh? Huh?"

      The difference between right wing politics and left wing politics is that the right wing generally wants to expand the power of law enforcement to catch criminals, whereas the left wing generally wants to expand the power of government to control the opposition party and enhance their own power. If you want to see this in action, take a look at how Democrats manipulated local elections for 40+ years to keep control of congress.

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    2. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calling Hitler "left-wing" is, frankly, the act of a complete and utter moron. No offense.

    3. Re:hmm by LazloTheDog · · Score: 1
      And how Mr. Master can you catogize Hitler, or any true Fascist government, as left wing?

      Right wing politics typically tries to expand the power of law enforcement to step on those they don't like in the name of public safety.

      JM

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    4. Re:hmm by zulux · · Score: 2
      And how Mr. Master can you catogize Hitler, or any true Fascist government, as left wing?


      I'm not speaking for Reality Mastser -

      Hitler was a leader of the National Socialist party . And even if you discount that -the only diferance between a faciest and a socialist is that the facist wants the governemnt to controll the means of production, while the socialist wants the government to own then means of production. A capitolist wants individual people to own the means of production. Clearly capitalism is a bit better - we've been to the moon and made the polio vaceane; all the Hitler/Stalin/Mao have done is murder a hundred million people.

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    5. Re:hmm by santeri · · Score: 1
      we've been to the moon and made the polio vaceane

      And again, who were first in space? Where is the literacy rate better; in Scandinavia or the US? Which country allows the "burning" of school books teaching evolution?

      But then, this has nothing to do with scientific or social progress. Capitalism just sucks because it promotes wrong values. Democracy just sucks because people are so inherently stupid and selfish. Totalitarian leftist rule is the sane way to go, my son.

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    6. Re:hmm by nomadic · · Score: 1, Offtopic


      Um, genius, in 1966 LBJ (liberal Democrat) was in power.

      Hey, genius, I'm not talking about the White House. I'm talking about the intelligence agencies and the military.

      In any case, got news for you: it's left wingers that have always been interested in mind control. The Soviet Union and Hitler ring a bell? Who constantly wants larger and larger governments? That would be the left wing.

      The Nazis were right-wing.

      The difference between right wing politics and left wing politics is that the right wing generally wants to expand the power of law enforcement to catch criminals, whereas the left wing generally wants to expand the power of government to control the opposition party and enhance their own power.

      Well, let's see. Over the entire length of Clinton's presidency the right used every power at their disposal to try to bring him down. The independent counsel, the impeachment hearings, these were both abuses of government to get back into power.

      The difference between right wing politics and left wing politics is that the right wing generally wants to expand the power of law enforcement to catch criminals, whereas the left wing generally wants to expand the power of government to control the opposition party and enhance their own power.

      You really believe that? That's kind of hilarious.

      The Republicans have tried to regulate speech, the press, and sex for a long time. If they could have their way they'd throw out half the Constitution.

      If you want to see this in action, take a look at how Democrats manipulated local elections for 40+ years to keep control of congress.


      Now you're just not coming to terms with basic facts here. The 97th, 98th, and 99th Congresses were controlled by the Republicans.

      Lets look at some even simpler facts. There are more registered Democrats than Republicans. The fact that over the past 40 years Congress has mostly been controlled by the Democrats is simply because more Americans believe the same things as the party promotes.

    7. Re:hmm by volsung · · Score: 2

      This is sort of tangential, but we were discussing Hitler over the summer, and someone observed that we draw the political spectrum wrong. We always have a line with left-wing and right-wing at opposite ends. He noted that we should draw it as a horseshoe (where the ends are close together) since the extreme left and the extreme right have far more in common with each other than they do with the middle.

    8. Re:hmm by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      Hey, genius, I'm not talking about the White House. I'm talking about the intelligence agencies and the military.

      Um, you might want to break out a civics book sometime. The president appoints the CIA director and the military chiefs of staff.

      The Nazis were right-wing.

      That's certainly what the left-wing propagandizers have wanted you to believe. It's simply not true. The Nazis were socialists. Isn't it remarkable that the more socialist a country is, the less freedom it has? Learn a little bit of history before you simply believe whatever you are told.

      Over the entire length of Clinton's presidency the right used every power at their disposal to try to bring him down.

      That's called "law enforcement", as I said. Maybe you think it's no big deal for the man who signs laws to lie under oath in a court, but there are many of us who believe that the man who signs laws should be held to the highest standards, not the lowest.

      The Republicans have tried to regulate speech, the press, and sex for a long time.

      I have many problems with the religious wing of the Republican Party, but on balance they consistently vote for smaller government and less restrictions on personal freedom. It's generally a minority fringe that do the religious nonsense. On the other hand, Democrats consistently vote to expand the power of government and its control over other people's lives. From LBJ's "Great Society" (the greatest damaging laws to American society ever passed) to Clinton's attempted government takeover of the American medical system. The left wing are the enemies of freedom.

      Now you're just not coming to terms with basic facts here. The 97th, 98th, and 99th Congresses were controlled by the Republicans.

      Sheesh, were you born yesterday? Note the "40+ years" of my comment. That refers to prior to the Republicans taking back congress.

      The fact that over the past 40 years Congress has mostly been controlled by the Democrats is simply because more Americans believe the same things as the party promotes.

      LOL! You really need to learn some history of the Democratic party's redistricting policies, purchasing of local campaigns, and the passing of pro-incumbent laws. I have a feeling you're pretty young.

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    9. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to stop listening to Rush and start thinking for yourself. You truly are a pathetic example of the brainwashed youth of America.

      ps, you may want to look up Nazis and "Neo-Nazis" under the heading "right-wing extremists." Everyone agrees on that, numbnut.

    10. Re:hmm by zulux · · Score: 1

      Totalitarian leftist rule is the sane way to go, my son.

      Congrat! You almost had a good troll! If you had a bit more subtly, you would probably have had a reply by now. Keep up the good work - you'll get there someday. Maby.

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      Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.

    11. Re:hmm by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      you may want to look up Nazis and "Neo-Nazis" under the heading "right-wing extremists." Everyone agrees on that, numbnut.

      Yeah, and what "everyone believes" is always correct. Forget the propaganda, look at what the Nazis believed. Look at what the Soviets believed. Look at what the left wing believes. What they have in common is the love of centralized government control over the lives of citizens.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    12. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's called "law enforcement", as I said. Maybe you think it's no big deal for the man who signs laws to lie
      under oath in a court, but there are many of us who believe that the man who signs laws should be held to the
      highest standards, not the lowest.

      Oh how right you are!!! It is FAR more heinous to lie about a blow job than it was to lie about the crimes of Iran Contra -- just as one example. *rolls eyes*

      Republicans can do no wrong! They just lie, cheat and steal their way to the presidency, train Osama as a terrorist, throw our civil liberties in the shitter, war profiteer, evade GAO investigations, lie about Clinton looting AirForce1, lie about White House damages, give MILLIONS of dollars to huge corporations while urging the workers of these corporations (how many of them laid off?) to shop! shop! shop! if they are TRUE patriots, start a "war on terra" to make sure they don't lose their precious oil pipeline, block the release of the Reagan presidential papers (wonder what they're hiding THERE?) ----

      You're right...Clinton's cock is FAR more important. Funny how after MILLIONS of dollars of investigations the worst thing pinned on Clinton was what he did with his cock... Thank god the "adults" are back in charge, and "honor & dignity" is back in the White House.

      Lying, hypocritical, sanctimonious fuckers. Republicans.

    13. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lying, hypocritical, sanctimonious fuckers. Republicans.

      Did you read that straight out of your Liberal Handbook? Good liberal, good, good liberal. Never let the truth get in the way of spreading good hatred. Spreading lies and misrepresentations are so much more effective for getting your vision of Utopia (read: control of the citizens) forced on the country.

    14. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HA!! You'd know about lies right? Read above...LIES about AirForce1, LIES about White House vandalism, LIES about 'credible threats' against Air Force One on Sept. 11 --- or you too busy letting Rush regurgitate your 'news' for you?

    15. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      or you too busy letting Rush
      regurgitate your 'news' for you?

      Why not? It's easier than actually thinking, or god forbid, researching these things yourself. Good ol' Rush... sad he'll soon no longer be able to hear the sound of his own voice.

    16. Re:hmm by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Um, you might want to break out a civics book sometime. The president appoints the CIA director and the military chiefs of staff.

      But not departmental heads or most senior administrators.

      That's certainly what the left-wing propagandizers have wanted you to believe. It's simply not true. The Nazis were socialists. Isn't it remarkable that the more socialist a country is, the less freedom it has? Learn a little bit of history before you simply believe whatever you are told.

      I think your history is a little shaky. The "socialist" in their name doesn't mean they were socialists in the modern sense of the word. They didn't believe in redistributing wealth; instead, they simply believed that the industrial apparatus of their country should be used to further the governments goals. If it were truly socialist then corporate industry wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon, and then prospered heavily from the governments actions.

      That's called "law enforcement", as I said. Maybe you think it's no big deal for the man who signs laws to lie under oath in a court, but there are many of us who believe that the man who signs laws should be held to the highest standards, not the lowest.

      "High crimes and misdemeanors" does NOT refer to being evasive about having sex, even in a courtroom setting. The entire independent counsel system was completely unconstitutional; someone who could ignore Constitutional restraints on unreasonable search AND was unaccountable to anyone is ridiculous. What the hell does his affair with Lewinsky have to do with the Whitewater deal, which happened years before?

      LOL! You really need to learn some history of the Democratic party's redistricting policies, purchasing of local campaigns, and the passing of pro-incumbent laws. I have a feeling you're pretty young.

      Oh spare me the condescension. Looks like I'll have to give you another history lesson.

      Redistricting is mandated by the Constitution, and has to be done every 10 years. Both sides attempt to get redistricting done to their advantage; if you actually believe that the Republicans don't do the same things then you're so credulous that you'll accept anything anyone tells you, as long as they profess to follow your ideology. I won't even respond

      Sheesh, were you born yesterday? Note the "40+ years" of my comment. That refers to prior to the Republicans taking back congress.

      Your history is once again shaky. Those Congresses I listed were from the 1980's.

      As for the comment about the left being "the enemies of freedom", it's probably the most ridiculous thing you've said, and that's saying something. Look at the Nixon administrations attacks on personal freedom--look at the McCarthy witchhunts--look at the Iran-Contra affair. Right-led presidential administrations

  36. Fun with fill-in-the-blanks by DaoudaW · · Score: 1

    Anyone willing to decode document 27 for me?? Document 27 reads as follows:

    Memorandum for: (blank)
    Subject: (blank) Views on Trained Cats (blank) for (blank) Use

    1. Our final examination of trained cats (blank) for (blank) use in the (blank) convinced us that the program would not lend itself in a practical sense to our highly specialized needs. Repeated checks on the state of training and equipment showed us that it was indeed possible to train (long blank) locations; we were not able to visualize (blank) (blank) use for this technique under conditions that prevail (blank).
    2. We have satisfied ourselves that it is indeed possible (very long blank). This is in itself a remarkable scientific achievement. Knowing that cats can indeed be trained to move short distances (blank) (blank) we see know reason to believe that a (blank) cat can not be similarly trained to approach (blank). Again, however, the environmental and security factors in using this technique in a real foreign situation force us to conclude that, for our (blank) purposes, it would not be practical.
    3. The work done on this problem over the years reflects great credit on the personnel who guided it, particularly (blank) whose energy and imagination could be models for scientific pioneers.

    (signed by blank)

    1. Re:Fun with fill-in-the-blanks by flufffy · · Score: 1
      training cats? :-/

      that should've been enough to get the project canceled right at the beginning ...

    2. Re:Fun with fill-in-the-blanks by NonSequor · · Score: 2

      Maybe it's a Mad Lib.

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  37. Try it today by Prizm · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this would even be an issue today. With silicon getting so small, a kitty could easily just get "bugged" or have a small chip inserted under its skin (Universal Soldier anyone?)

    This business of slitting kitties open is just disgusting. I can't see how spending this type of money on such a project could be beneficial, even during the cold war. It seems the money would have been better spent on finding other techniques, or improving the technology.

    It should be interesting to view the documents and see just what was going on. Anybody have any sort of information on how this released information could be found? I'm also interested to see what kind of "sensoring" they have done to it. =)

    1. Re:Try it today by Grab · · Score: 2

      "Universal Persian"? Starring Dolphin-friendly Catfood and De-Clawed van Manx?

      Grab.

  38. Still, though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    nothing was better than Operation Dumbo Drop.

  39. All I want is... by neema · · Score: 5, Funny

    DR. EVIL CIA GUY: Release the sharks! All the sharks have had laser beams attached to their heads. I figure every creature deserves a warm meal.

    FRAU FARBISSINA: Dr. Evil?

    DR. EVIL CIA GUY: Yes, what is it? You're interrupting my moment of triumph.

    FRAU FARBISSINA: It's about the sharks. Since you were frozen, they've been placed on the Endangered Species List. We tried to get some, but it will take months to clear up the red tape.

    DR. EVIL: Right. Mr. Kremlin, we're going to lower you in a tank of piranhas with laser beams attached to their heads.

    FRAU FARBISSINA: *cough*

    DR. EVIL CIA GUY: What is it now?

    FRAU FARBISSINA: Well, we experimented with lasers, but you would be surprised at how heavy they are. They actually outweighed the piranha themselves, and the fish, well, they sank to the bottom and died.

    DR. EVIL CIA GUY: I have one simple request and that's sharks with friggin' laser beams attached to their heads, and it can't be done? Remind me again why I pay you people? What do we have?

    FRAU FARBISSINA: Cats.

    DR. EVIL CIA GUY: Right.

    FRAU FARBISSINA: They're mutated cats. With surveillance devices.

    DR. EVIL CIA GUY: Really? Are they ill-tempered?

    1. Re:All I want is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that was Number Two that said that, not Frau whatever

  40. national security archive by kingdon · · Score: 1

    This page (document 27) at the national security archive contains a PDF of the heavily redacted memo. In addition to the kitty, there is also material about spy satellites and other such things.

  41. ALL YOUR FELINES ARE BELONG TO US by kaoshin · · Score: 1

    Mrs. Slocombe: The next thing you know they'll be calling me up
    and asking me to put a wire on MY pussy.

    Barney Fife: I say this calls for action and now! Nip it in the bud!

    1. Re:ALL YOUR FELINES ARE BELONG TO US by jbarnett · · Score: 2


      Maybe not the CIA, but I would gladly attach a survillence device to YOUR pussy.

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  42. Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chat: l'autre viande blanche

    1. Re:Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pas du tout. C'est la viande rouge, je pense. Est-ce vous avez mangé un chat? Dégoûtant !

      Le chien est mieux, rôti.

    2. Re:Or... by Rolker · · Score: 1

      Mmmmm.... Chien-chaud!

    3. Re:Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ouais, avec un peu de la moutarde, c'est magnifique !

  43. Not that easy..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Despite what you may think, it's not that easy to control a cockroach.

    How do I know, you ask?

    I'm a neuroscience graduate student who works in a lab that studies cockroach neurophysiology and movement control:

    http://www.life.uiuc.edu/delcomyn/

    Yes, we can GUIDE the motions, by stimulating parts of the CPG (central pattern generators) in cockroach motor control - each pair of legs in cockroaches have internal movement pattern generators, as well as connections to other legs as well as the higher CNS ganglia. This still doesn't mean we have total control, or even relatively FINE control - something that would be required for this kind of fantasy "bug" intelligence work. It's really not that practical, and I doubt it will ever be - a lot more can be acheived by remote sensing technology, or possibly MEMS-type sensors.

    Sincerely,
    Kevin Christie
    Neuroscience Program
    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
    crispiewm@hotmail.com

    1. Re:Not that easy..... by stox · · Score: 1

      Have you thought of applying for a grant from the CIA?

      --
      "To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
    2. Re:Not that easy..... by gatesh8r · · Score: 1

      And this is where all the grant money goes into? wtf? Maybe the University of Illinois needs to reevaluate their grants so the state of Illinois doesn't end up throwing money away for such idiotic research... sheesh

      What next? A block grant to figure out how to control snakes in Afghanistan? :-P

      --
      Karma whorin' since 1999
    3. Re:Not that easy..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe he just did...

    4. Re:Not that easy..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the hell are you talking about?

      We don't work for the military. Our grants are NSF grants - basic research into the neurobiology of motor control, biomemtic robotics research. I was responding to the parent's concept that using roaches for intelligence work by controlling them is impractical, and not as easy as he initially thought.

      Don't make assumptions about things I never talked about. I never said ANYTHING about our lab being funded for military projects controlling cockroaches!

      Sincerely,
      Kevin Christie
      Neuroscience Program
      University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
      crispiewm@hotmail.com

    5. Re:Not that easy..... by Grab · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is presumably working on the theory that nervous systems are fairly similar in all animals. So if you can work out how to make a cockroach tap-dance under computer control, then you can do the same for Christopher Reeve or other paralysed ppl (but presumably in this case under CR's control - just imagine some h4x0r getting root on CR's control box! :-).

      You'd have real problems getting a grant to do these experiments on babies, or even on volunteers. Messing with nervous systems could (a) cause lots of pain, and (b) damage the nerves so that the person is paralysed. But with cockroaches, who cares? If it gets paralysed, squish it and move on to another one. Why roaches? Well, they're large insects, so presumably it's easier to trace the nerves. And I'd guess insects are easier to deal with due to their exoskeleton - if you need to attach something to an insect, you can glue it to the outside and be sure it won't come off. With mammals and reptiles, you've always got the problem of attaching stuff securely to skin. And of course, there's the PETA issue - pictures of cute fluffy mice in labs are good for publicity, but no-one's going to object to experiments on roaches bcos they're not photogenic!

      Maybe you need to reconsider how medical research is done. Transplants were _not_ done on humans, they were done on chimps, rats, dogs, etc first.

      Grab.

    6. Re:Not that easy..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How typical this is. For every knowledgable reader that contributes a truly informative post, there are any number of dumbasses who know nothing about what they're talking about contributing flames and noise.

      How could you miss the point of this research so completely? The point is not to learn how to control cockroaches, but to learn enough about how animal motor control works to be able to (someday) create replacement control systems for people with nervous system damage.

    7. Re:Not that easy..... by gatesh8r · · Score: 1

      Well that's intresting... I wasn't aware of some of the theorms behind the actual experement. It just doesn't -seem- correct, does it? As for other fields, yeah, I am aware of some research is done with various medical advancements... although some things are simmilar, they aren't exact, and I'm sure there are other aspects that need to be considered as well... oh well before I post maybe I need to search google? ;-)

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  44. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  45. my friggin' spying cat! by austad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dammit! This MUST be why my cat only comes near me when I'm on the phone or typing at my computer, he's friggin' rigged! Where is that little furry bastard?!?! I bet some water would short circuit his electronics....

    Here kitty kitty...

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  46. Other Kitty projects by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

    I don't think we should ever talk about interesting things to do with cats without talking about the amazing Bonzai Kitties

    This isn't a troll! Its just that the very thought of the sound that a cat would make as you tried to shove it into a blender would be...interesting. And it is therefore worth mentioning.

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  47. Monstrous by hether · · Score: 1

    I'm no crazy PETA person, but it sounds like what they did to the cat was monstrous.

    And this really floored me:

    He said: "They took it out to a park and put him out of the van, and a taxi comes and runs him over. There they were, sitting in the van with all those dials, and the cat was dead."

    --

    Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do.
    1. Re:Monstrous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got to admit, it's kind of funny. If you saw it in a Hollywood movie, you'd laugh and say "it could never happen in real life".

    2. Re:Monstrous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this really floored me:
      >

      How sad, a stupid cat got ran over that would have been ran over either way. It's not like they threw him under the wheel...

    3. Re:Monstrous by hether · · Score: 1

      Yeah, its like something that would happen in a movie with Leslie Nielsen in it. :)

      --

      Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do.
    4. Re:Monstrous by hether · · Score: 1

      I meant floored me as in ROFL because it was funny, not that I was upset about it. Imagine spending millions on a training a cat, bringing it out in public for the first time and boom. Ran over by a car. All your weeks of work to waste. :)

      --

      Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do.
  48. a VB sig? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Function fun1(text) Msgbox text Call fun1("all your base are belong to us") E

    I'd be ashamed to be seen in public with a Visual Basic anything, let alone a moniker that represents my very essence.

    Better go learn a real language.

    P.S.

    Euler's number is represented with a lower case e not E

  49. This was on TV years ago... by thesurfaces.net · · Score: 3, Informative

    There was a BBC documentary about 4 or 5 years ago with this story in it; the main subject was the MKULTRA project, and it was entitled "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate" (or something like that), but this "Acoustic Kitty" thing came up as an anecdote from some ex-intelligence guy they interviewed. Unfortunately, Google turns absolutely nothing up, and the BBC themselves apparently don't know a thing about it!

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  50. Re:Obligatory dead baby joke post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A: Texas

  51. Wrong title... by thesurfaces.net · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got the title confused with this, which is a good read on MKULTRA, but the program definitely had "Manchurian Candidate" in the title!

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  52. Re:pppussssyyyy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    non, minou !

  53. Uh....and you think this is NEW?!?! by FredThompson · · Score: 1

    Dude...this has been on the Discovery Channel for at least four years. This is not new information. The stupid cat ran into the street and got run over.

  54. Conspiracy theorists of the world, unite. by Murmer · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Reading just a bit between the lines...

    "They slit the cat open, put batteries in him, wired him up. The tail was used as an antenna. They made a monstrosity. They tested him and tested him. They found he would walk off the job when he got hungry, so they put another wire in to override that,'' he said.

    So reading a hair past the ha-ha bad product description, we've learned that the CIA can stick a wire into your head and change the way you feel.
    And they knew how to do this in 1960. Damn, but they must have some cool toys by now.
    --
    Mike Hoye
    1. Re:Conspiracy theorists of the world, unite. by DarkZero · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately for them, mental control through electronic equipment is very, very obvious to the person with the electronic equipment inside them. I presume, very seriously, that the cat ran into the street against its better judgement because it was going insane from the forced electrical stimulation and the intense pain of having that many pieces of electrical equipment stuffed into its body.

    2. Re:Conspiracy theorists of the world, unite. by gTsiros · · Score: 0

      Even if it wasn't CyberKitty, it still would run to the road and get "bzipped". have you seen how cats face the cross_a_road challenge?
      plan a) Sit under a parked car, wait until random moment (when of course, you will surprise the predator on the road) and SPROING to the road! not very mature...
      plan b) VEEEERY SLOOOOOOWLY walk across the road, pushing to the asphalt. i emphasize very slowly. most probably one step every five or six seconds. This way you can't be heard from the predator on the road.

      On the other hand, dogs look at the traffic and then cross the road in a hurry. I'm not kidding. At some point i saw a dog barking at another dog because he didn't look at the road first before crossing. But that could be random tho :/

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    3. Re:Conspiracy theorists of the world, unite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember when I hit my first cat. It was about 3 minutes after I ran over my first bird. I was almost home, then this cat jumps out from under a parked car and "Thwump!", the underside was nothing but fur, feathers and blood.

    4. Re:Conspiracy theorists of the world, unite. by Magius_AR · · Score: 1
      Firstly, the human mind is much more complex than a cat's mind. Secondly, changing the way a person thinks or acts can be taught with simple conditioning (brainwashing), and that has been around for decades. This is hardly new news.

      Magius_AR

  55. Catcalls Categorize Catastrophic Concatenation by dublin · · Score: 4, Funny

    The CIA cats working on this category must have been catatonic, or maybe just got caught catnapping:

    The kitty carcass catapulted by the cab catercorner across the catwalk caterwauled, then went cataleptic and catatonic. It's hard to categorize such cathodically catheterized cattails as anything but cataclysmically catastrophic. The catcalls clearly catalyzed the cattiest CIA agents to consider acoustic catfish to catch confidential conversations near cataracts. Catfights in cathouses are another matter: maybe covert catsup bottles? Gee that was cathartic - I think I'll have some catnip...

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    1. Re:Catcalls Categorize Catastrophic Concatenation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you cut this completely confusing collection of crap?

      -Chuck

    2. Re:Catcalls Categorize Catastrophic Concatenation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Cat wired for conversations carcass was catapulted by the cab cat-corner across the catwalk, caterwauled, then went cataleptic and catatonic. It's hard to categorize a cathodically catheterized cats tale as anything but cataclysmically catastrophic. The catcalls clearly catalyzed the cattiest CIA agents to consider acoustic catfish and cat5 connectors to catch confidential conversations. Cathartic catnip induced catfights in cathouses are another matter, maybe covert catsup bottles?

  56. that explains it by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 1

    Well, that explains why I overheard this last week:

    "Mommy, I want an accoustic kitty... .pleeeeeeeeease can I have one?"

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    1. Re:that explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, no! *I* want an acoustic kitty. Surely it wasn't just me who read "Acoustic Kitty" and thought of the old big pussy with an echo joke ;)

    2. Re:that explains it by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Well, that explains why I overheard this last week:
      > "Mommy, I want an accoustic kitty... .pleeeeeeeeease can I have one?"

      Yeah. Wait'll SONY hears about this.

      Fuck AIBO!

  57. Cats and Water? by base2op · · Score: 2, Funny

    I suppose this would explain why cats do not seem to like water. Perhaps they're all rigged now?

    Hrm...
    [::imagines the effect of slashdotters killing all cats::] (The black plague started in quite a similar manner.)

  58. Just the facts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    This is interesting, but I don't really need michael's permission to free shocked at stupidity and depravity.

    In this case, I agree, but I still don't care what michael thinks.

    What I would like is for /. to report "stuff that matters" and leave out the editorializing.

    1. Re:Just the facts. by coolgeek · · Score: 1

      I'll second that motion, and add, too many times the editorializing comes off as some inexperienced snot-nosed crybaby crap. At times as I read some of the rants on the front page, I think to myself, "Grow the fuck up!"

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  59. Lame and low. by AltGrendel · · Score: 1

    Obviously a slow news night for michael.

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  60. Clever way of disguising the radio transmission ! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article : "The tail was used as an antenna."

    So, let's see : if they wired a kitten, it would emit short waves. Then, as the kitty grows up, the frequency would slowly shift to the long wave band. Kind of like a very slow naturally occuring frequency-hopping encoding : if the Russian had picked up the transmission and went back to it several week after, they wouldn't have been able to find it again !

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  61. Trained Cat? Hilarious... by dbCooper0 · · Score: 1

    You don't train cats. They Train YOU!

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    1. Re:Trained Cat? Hilarious... by susano_otter · · Score: 2

      So you're saying this program was the cat's idea?

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  62. An apology by xmedar · · Score: 2

    I'm afraid it's the fault of us Brits really after all we helped create the CIA by setting up Camp X and the Americans seem to have taken our ideas to heart, this is just another Exploding Rat, I hope I speak for the majority of us Brits when I say... Sorry!

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    1. Re:An apology by coolgeek · · Score: 1

      Don't mean to piss in yer bangers and tomatoes there lad. The Brits may have helped spawn the CIA, but we all know it was the Nazis that made the CIA what it is today.

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    2. Re:An apology by superflex · · Score: 1
      wow, what a remarkably horrible website. That's funny... I live like, five minutes from there... in Canada. That's right... Brits and Yanks alike owe modern espionage to the mighty Canadians... bwa ha ha ha...

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  63. hmm by nomadic · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Sad thing is these kinds of right-wing nutjobs are back in power...

  64. the inhumanity by Zazm · · Score: 1, Troll

    You know, when I'm feeling cheerful I'm opposed to the war against the Afgan people, but then I hear of something like this and it reminds me that as long as were busy killing each other at least were not busy killing things that can't fight back.

    To commit such crimes against any creature is immoral, but to commit the same crimes against a creature that cannot fight back is inhuman.

    So go ahead Uncle Sam, bomb the snot out of some third world regeime, you have my whole hearted support... but if I ever find the bastard that cut that cat open I'll gut him and stick a fscking antenna up his butt.

    Go ahead, moderate me.

    1. Re:the inhumanity by rodgerd · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I'll certainly be feeling no sympathy for CIA staff who die by anthrax. Or anything else, for that matter. Sick fucks.

      Sad thing is, the people responsible will probably die in their beds, with a fat pension and commendations.

    2. Re:the inhumanity by wholesomegrits · · Score: 1

      Go ahead, moderate me.

      You brave patriot! Throwing karma to the sea like tea from a ship!

      GIVE ME +2 OR GIVE ME DEATH!
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      Bravo!

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    3. Re:the inhumanity by IronChef · · Score: 3, Insightful


      A whole bunch of people work for the CIA. They aren't all "sick fucks." If you don't like the cat thing, fine... but without "intelligence" we'd be a lot worse off than we are with it.

      The CIA may do some distasteful things, but you can't condemn them all for that, and you are definitely enjoying some protection from the agency.

    4. Re:the inhumanity by srvivn21 · · Score: 2

      but without "intelligence" we'd be a lot worse off than we are with it.

      The CIA may do some distasteful things, but you can't condemn them all for that, and you are definitely enjoying some protection from the agency.


      I have to respectfully disagree. I feel that the CIA had it's uses at one time, and likely did the USA some good (whether they did more good than harm, I will never know). But to me the CIA* is like "closed-source government". I can't see how they work. I can't even be sure of what results are directly attributable to them. If a leader of some small country mysteriously dies (or dies without apparent mystery), I can't be sure that my government had no hand in the matter.

      Am I enjoying protection from the agency? I don't know. I do feel (now more than ever) that I need to be protected from it. And that is just sad.

      Read the document that moved me from being merely ambivalent to having fairly strong doubts in the "secret" departments of the US gov. here.

      *The NSA, FBI and much of the military operations all seem to fit the bill here. The CIA was just the focus of this discussion.

  65. Real reason details are being withheld... by morcheeba · · Score: 3, Funny

    > The document ... is still partly censored. This implies that the CIA was embarrassed about disclosing all the details of Acoustic Kitty

    Actually, the reason is that project Acoustic Bovine was a success, and is being covertly operated on the streets of moscow as we speak.

    1. Re:Real reason details are being withheld... by radja · · Score: 2

      yeah, acoustic bovine was a success.. but acoustic bovine was pioneered in India, which is obviosly why cows are protected there. They even managed to sneak it into religion.. ;)

      //rdj

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    2. Re:Real reason details are being withheld... by srvivn21 · · Score: 1

      I've herd that they loose contact with the cows occationally. Rural American kids aren't the only ones who find "cow-tipping" an ammusing passtime.

      (Yes, I know how to spell "heard", I just felt that "herd" was more appropriate.)

  66. Old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was reported almost 2 months ago (Sep. 11) here. Admittedly our attention was focused elsewhere.

  67. I know! by Newer+Guy · · Score: 1

    They could take Hilary Rosen and do the same to her... But wait...what would they do with all the tapes of her wth her (female) lovers??? Mayber sell them on the internet or hook them up to a 900 number??

  68. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Accoustic Kitty? I prefer to think of it as radio controlled pussy. :)

  69. If there's any good to come out of this... by zhensel · · Score: 2

    It's that no federal agency will ever be able to sensibly prosecute the Bonsai Kitten in the near future. PETA be damned.

    ...

    Scratch that, somehow I don't think that the government would be restrained by mere hypocracy. If anything that seems to be an insentive in its actions.

  70. R & D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think this is a stupid idea at all. It was an idea with potential that didn't work out. That is the (most frequent) outcome of research and development. The CIA's Directorate of Science and Technology is responsible for developing new, innovative techniques for intelligence gathering - they're not going to hit home runs every time they try something new.

    I'm really suprised at the negative reaction this article has received from a crowd that gets really excited about things like someone running Linux on a wristwatch...

  71. Make a Movie by earthlight · · Score: 1

    This HAS to be made into a movie, with Quentin Tarantino directing. I'm just imagining the scene where the cat is let out of the van and gets hit by the car... That would be the perfect scene for Tarantino to direct.

  72. Oh um demo time by dracken · · Score: 1

    So 4 million $ was spent and the cat was rigged and during the demo time - a van mysteriously runs over the cat! Cat works, the van was the villian!

    Kinda remids me about my semester project that worked but sadly during the demo time my machine crashed and formatted the disk.

  73. Cats? by wbav · · Score: 1

    Now I could understand dogs, dogs are trainable, and will do what you want. But a cat? What exactly will it be spying on? The mouse population in russia? Now it seems to me, that most importiant stuff will be in places where cat's can't see them. And people don't read to cats normally (I mean they just sit in the corner looking better like they are better than you.)

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  74. Oh, eat my shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go Michael, go!

  75. Acoustic pussy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not amped pussy?
    I love it when they scream.

  76. Another cat cruelty story by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2

    If you're a cat lover looking for something else to get upset about, there's the Cat Cam project.

  77. Re:That was only the beginning-People bugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm...With technology evolving the way it is, "talk to the hand" may take on a whole new meaning.

    How about "people" bugs? What they see..we see. What they hear...we hear,etc.

  78. Coming next!!!! by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

    ...Operation Audiable Puppy! Soon to be follwed by Operation Omniscient Gerbil!!!

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    That is all.
  79. Kitty Special Ops rules of engagement! by orius_khan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Use of kitties for special operations is far more widespread than many people realize. Here are some kitty rules as part of a widespread project to decrease the productivity of American citizens:

    Kitty Rules

    Bathrooms:
    Always accompany guests to the bathroom. It is not necessary to do anything. Just sit and stare.

    Doors:
    Do not allow any closed doors in any room. To get door open, stand on your hind legs and hammer with forepaws. Once door is opened, it is not necessary to use it. Especially after you have ordered an "outside" door opened, stand halfway in and out and think about several things. This is particularly important during very cold weather, rain, snow, or mosquito season.

    Chairs and Rugs:
    If you have to throw up, get to a chair quickly. If you cannot manage in time, get to an Oriental rug. If there is no Oriental rug, shag is good. When throwing up on the carpet, make sure you back up so the mess is as long as a human's bare foot.

    Hampering:
    If one of your humans is engaged in some activity and the other is idle, stay with the busy one. This is called "helping" otherwise known as "hampering". Here are the rules for hampering:

    1) when supervising cooking, sit just behind the left heel of the cook. You cannot be seen and thereby stand a better chance of being stepped on and then picked up and comforted.

    2) for book reading, get in close under the chin, between eyes and book, unless you can lie across the book itself.

    3) for paperwork, lie on the work in the most appropriate manner so as to obscure as much of the work as possible and pretend to doze, but every so often reach out and slap the pencil or pen.

    4) for people paying bills or working on income taxes or Christmas cards, keep in mind the aim; to hamper! First sit on the paper being worked on. When dislodged, watch sadly from the side of the table. When activity proceeds nicely, roll around on the papers, scattering them to the best of your ability. After being removed for the second time, push pens, pencils and erasers off the table, one at a time.

    5) when a human is holding the newspaper in front of them, be sure to jump at the back of the paper, preferably with a running start. Humans love surprises.

    6) when a human is working at computer, jump on the desk, walk across keyboard, bat at the mouse pointer on screen, then lay on the human's lap across arms, hampering typing.

    Walking:
    As often as possible, dart quickly and as close as possible in front of the human, especially on stairs, when they have something in their arms, in the dark, and when they first get up in the morning. This will help your human with their coordination skills.

    Bedtime:
    Always sleep on the human at night so he/she cannot move around.

    Litter Box:
    When using the litter box, be sure to kick as much litter out of the box as possible. Humans love the feel of kitty litter between their toes.

    Hiding:
    Every now and then, hide in a place where the humans cannot find you. Do not come out for three to four hours under any circumstances. This will cause the humans to panic (which they love) thinking that you have run away or are lost. Once you do come out, the humans will cover you with love and kisses and you will probably get a treat.

    One last thought:
    Whenever possible, get close to a human, especially their face, turn around and present your butt to them. Humans love this, so do it
    often and, don't forget guests.

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    1. Re:Kitty Special Ops rules of engagement! by CharlieG · · Score: 2

      Yep, you have a cat (or did)

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  80. Basselopes And Roswell And...Stuff by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

    Heh...Stealth Basselope...

    Roswell. I know, I know, it would be more fun if it was aliens. This makes me think maybe the govt just did something really stupid and they're still embarassed.

    Call me sick and perverted, but i'd like to see the secret tapes of animals exposed to space and the first tape of naughtiness in space...

    1. Re:Basselopes And Roswell And...Stuff by schon · · Score: 1

      Heh...Stealth Basselope...

      Actually, that should be the X15 Cruise Basselope

    2. Re:Basselopes And Roswell And...Stuff by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

      I mean the one where Rosebud's dressed up as a babushka. I think it was the X-17 Stealth Basselope. For the life of me I can't seem to find an image online. Plenty of Cruise Basselopes but no Stealth Basselopes.

  81. I can't believe it got hit by a car. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least wasn't as bad as the cat-nuke incident.

  82. Already declassified by SimJockey · · Score: 1

    How else would you explain Cat Dynamics?
    Check out the R&D page, makes Bonsai Kittens look downright cuddly.

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  83. Ya, that's funny. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he, he, he

    1. Re:Ya, that's funny. by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      You sick, twisted pervert! Here's a mirror of the pictures for you to enjoy!

    2. Re:Ya, that's funny. by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2

      Dammit, the link worked in preview! Here's the mirror.

  84. "Terminal Man", by Michael Crichton by Lethyos · · Score: 2

    Read this. Fictional, but very interesting, and I think you'll learn that we've known how to modify brain activity with properly placed charges for quite some time. The brain passes signals using electrical impulses (more or less). If we can create our own, well, we can trigger certain results. "Damn, I'm hungry." *ZzZaaAApPp* "Wow, I'm stuffed!"

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  85. Virtual Cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why bother owning having a cat? Try the following instead:

    1) Scatter beard shavings, hair & shaving brush bristles over carpets and chairs.
    2) Place lumps of festering s**t in dark corners, and pour urine over important and sentimental objects.
    3) Strategically place small piles of vomit at the bottom of stairs, by the side of beds, in shoes, etc, in fact anywhere that people are likely to stand when not wearing shoes or socks.
    4) Stand in the back garden during the very early hours of the morning and scream as loud as you can until morning.
    5) Leave bird feathers and their entrails all over the house but especially in the bedroom.
    6) Using a red felt-tip pen draw big horrible scabby spots on your legs just where your socks start to imitate flea bites.
    7) When friends come to visit scratch, wheeze and sneeze violently.

  86. Oh no! Not that infamous hoax again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm tired of getting chain emails from my friends telling me to "save the bonsai kittens".

  87. Human stupidity is without bounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and this is another story to prove it. (By the way, cats are much smarter than humans ;)

  88. I'd love one! by squaretorus · · Score: 1

    Just image a webcam kitty!!!! Oh the FUN you could have with that!

  89. I got another one for ya by Spunk · · Score: 1

    Hey, as long as we're posting offensive links about cats, you all should check out Kitty Porn.

  90. more CIA operations by diarmuid_c · · Score: 3, Informative
    For instance Operation Mongoose where among other things America civilians would be shot, planes hijacked and ships sunk which would then be blamed on the Cubans, giving the US an excuse to invade.

    It's is suspected that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was actually based on the above operation.

    If you havent read it already check out Body of Secrets , a recent history of the NSA, and proof that the land of the free is far from that

  91. Yawn - old news by MaxH01 · · Score: 1

    This story was on BBC Radio 4 last week.

  92. YES by sehryan · · Score: 1

    You do not know how long I have been looking for a name for my band!

    Accustic Kitty rox u 2 hell!

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    1. Re:YES by sehryan · · Score: 1

      of course, it would be helpful if i could spell acoustic. Wait! another great name for a band!

      Spell Checker rox u 2 hell!

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  93. The answer is so obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OpenNAP and gnutella :-)

  94. Hmmm by superdan2k · · Score: 1

    From the original article:
    "By coincidence, in 1966, a British film called "Spy With a Cold Nose" featured a dog wired up to eavesdrop on the Russians. It was the same year as the Acoustic Kitty was tested."

    Man, and I'll bet heads were rolling in Langley looking for their leak. We are, after all, discussing one of the most paranoid organizations on the entire planet.

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  95. Re:Clever way of disguising the radio transmission by MaxH01 · · Score: 1

    That would depend on the change in Resistance/Reactance, Inductance & Capacitance of the tail as the kitten grew older. As a cat-lover, I'm not sure I'd like to see research into that one!

  96. So wait... by superdan2k · · Score: 1

    Is Operation Acoustic Kitty just another application of this Carnivore thing I keep hearing about?

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  97. Why cats avoid water by Todd1 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps modern cats are descendants of this wired kitty, which would explain their fear of water.

    1. Re:Why cats avoid water by austad · · Score: 2

      Actually, my cat loves water. He's a bengal (I have 2 of them). He'll sit in the sink, and I can close the drain and fill the sink up to his neck, and instead of jumping out, he'll drink the water. I can't keep him out of the shower either.

      The other one is curious about water, but doesn't seek it out like his brother.

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  98. This is supposed to be funny? by IdocsMiko · · Score: 1

    How did this end up in the "It's Funny. Laugh." section? This is a sad, depressing story. Regardless of whether you think the experiment was necessary, it's hardly funny.

  99. Taxes by Hard_Code · · Score: 2

    ...I'm so glad they're putting my tax money to good use...

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  100. NeCoRo by SuperJ · · Score: 1
    Why not fool 'em with a NeCoRo?


    NeCoRo is 1 month old.
    He weighs 1.6 kilograms.
    He is 32 centimeters tall.
    He has grey hair.

    His hairballs are real.
    But he is not.

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  101. Almost as smart as the germans... by mcdade · · Score: 1

    During WWII the germans decided that it would be a good idea to strap explosives to dog and let them run under a tank and stay there to blow it up. Well after weeks of field training they were finally ready. They strapped them up and took them out and let them loose on the Allied forces, only problem is they ran straight back and hid under german tanks (cause that's what they were trained to do). No one thought that they should train them to recognize an Allied tank and hide under that instead.

    or maybe it was the russians.. i'm not sure now but either way.. not to bright.

  102. Rewired a living thing? by BreakWindows · · Score: 1

    "They tested him and tested him. They found he would walk off the job when he got hungry, so they put another wire in to override that"

    Damn...I was hungry a few minutes ago, but now I'm not.. I wonder if I'm bugged.

    Oddly enough, now that I'm not hungry, I just have the urge to buy some WindowsXP and assassinate Marshall Ledbetter. *shrug*

  103. Pussy Spy by Walker+Evans · · Score: 1

    This story was already posted at The Portal Of Evil's Newspage. Great resource if you dig all sorts of crazy and sick news.

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  104. That's where the microphone is by BitHerder · · Score: 1

    Please speak slowly and clearly into the browneye, sir.

    1. Re:That's where the microphone is by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 1

      ROTFL! Mod parent up, someone!!!

  105. Twit by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2
    How was this a stupid experiment? If one could use animals to gather ground-level surveillance, it would save human operative's lives. It's a dashed good idea. Like animal testing: would you rather cosmetics be tested on rabbits or Little Susan? Given that intelligence must be collected (which is a fact), and given that animals could collect that intelligence (which was hoped), it would have made a lot of sense.

    Although it is a humourous idea naetheless. After all, in all the movies the guards don't worry about the noise when they see the cat. I can see the new scene:

    *tinkle*

    Guard 1: What's that?!

    Guard 2: dunno

    Guards see cat

    Guards: Holy Sh*t!

    Guards open fire onto poor mouser

    Everyone on secret base dies from an attack of plague carried my mice no longer kept down by local cat population.

    Wow, it was a wonder-weapon!

    1. Re:Twit by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > If one could use animals to gather ground-level surveillance, it would save human operative's lives.

      Actually, I agree. The concept is great. The execution, on the other hand, left much to be desired.

      I have visions of two agents looking at each other, then at the squashed cat, and saying "OK, suppose we got this large wooden badger..." as they realize that someone forgot that getting a cat to go where you want it to go is a nontrivial proposition.

      I think the Japanese experiments where they glued mini-cameras onto cockroaches, and controlled cockroach movements by remote control, are a good step in the right direction.

      And for those who don't enjoy the cloak-and-dagger stuff, it would also come in handy for search-and-rescue operations.

      (Though in response to your "Guard 1 / Guard 2" scenario, I'd think "VOA: 'Godless Taliban Guards Machine-Gun Kitten to Death! Click here for .rm file'" would be more appropriate :-)

      Sick observation: ...because obviously, footage of Taliban troops machine-gunning human females to death didn't outrage us enough over the past 5-6 years. Maybe kittens are what it'll take.

    2. Re:Twit by S.O.B. · · Score: 1

      Given that intelligence must be collected (which is a fact)

      Actually, knowledge is collected, intelligence is innate.

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    3. Re:Twit by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I agree with animal experiments that could save human lives, but I rather draw the line at using animals for testing something as shallow and vain as cosmetics. Even if little Susan doesn't want to do her own cosmetics testing, she'll look just as nice without them. And I don't think I'm the only guy here that thinks cosmetics only serve to oppress women and enhance their perception as mere sexual objects.

  106. Of course, the CIA is smarter and better now. by Tank · · Score: 1

    While folks may poke fun at the CIA for their early efforts at animal-based intelligence gathering devices, but without failures like acoustic kitty, we wouldn't be in a position now to launch the Operation Covert Camel, which experts believe could crack the al Qaeda network wide open. (Can anyone say Pillow Talk ;)

  107. I hate slashcode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  108. More evil things to do with cats... by markmoss · · Score: 2

    See this User Friendly cartoon.

  109. But there are better ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To use a pussy to extract information from the Soviets ;-)

  110. Major drawback by ocie · · Score: 2

    Russian Dude: Here kitty kitty, let me scratch under your chin.

    Meanwhile in the survalance van:

    CIA Dude: I'm picking up some sort of chopping sound, they must be jamming us.

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  111. How to tell if its a Acoustic Kitty` by deft · · Score: 1


    Watch them closely around water. If it avoids water like the plague, seems to hate it... it probably has hardware & batteries up its butt.

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  112. BBC's propensity for losing stuff by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot · · Score: 2

    Well, yeah, the BBC lost it... They lost several SEASONS of Dr. Who, for cryin' out loud! They'd probably lose their asses if they weren't attached!

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    And everywhere the language went, it was a total loss...