According to the theory of evolution, everything develops because it randomly mutates and gives an individual some sort of reproductive advantage that increases its chances of reproducing and passing the trait along. That kind of breaks down when you have stuff like this come up that is so uniquely developed. Where did it begin? What "advantage" is the crystal structure over a normal green coloring? How was that so important to propagate over the entire species and develop so far? At some point there had to have been some beetle that had a slightly crystalic formation, and then its offspring had a little more advanced crystal etc etc.
Some traits it is obvious how it could develop, ie walking upright. It has a continuous advantage than increases as it develops. But something like this has absolutely no reason to develop. It might make it shiny green NOW that it IS developed. But during the eons of time it would take then it has no reason to do so. Another example going farther off topic, an elephants trunk. A long trunk is obviously helpful. But where was the cow/horse/whatever like animal that was so reproductively successful because its nose was genetically predisposed to be.1 inches longer than the others?
But this being slashdot ill probably get flamed for criticizing evolution and defending intelligent design.
Ironicly, we really can invest in oil production. It would help the oil crisis as well as reduce the need for landfills/recycling. I look forward to the day where instead of treating sewage and waste with chemicals we dump it in a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization plant and get out good ol black gold and sterile water.
A windmill is actually arguably more complex than a nuclear generator as there are a lot more (and smaller) moving parts. Note, I am speaking about the reactor core itself as it is the only "nuclear" part of the whole system. The steam turbine and other parts of the facility aren't really any more dangerous than what you have at a coal plant and are easily maintainable.
Also, while a nuke plant might "break", new core designs are *theoretically* impossible to meltdown because the reaction isn't enough to maintain itself without assistance.
Funny you mention that the MALWARE encyclopedia for an ANTIVIRUS program is next to useless. It should be. Because it shouldnt have one.
I used AVG up until they committed the sin of bundling all their wonderful products together for the customers ultimate satisfaction. Version 8 made the UI look all pretty true, but it also is very lacking in any actual options. While trying to configure it after updating then I found on their help site 3 menus/check boxes referenced that simply did not exist in the program. Also, if I remember correctly, it has a bundle with Yahoo toolbar that tries to install itself unless you unselect it.
In short, AVG is dying out. I dropped it and went with ClamWin. Open source products are just getting more and more attractive every day.
I thought of that too. NoScript blocked 4 or 5 scripts from running. I didnt look to see what they were or where from though. So much for anti-flash flaming.
It is hardly under high security. Anyone of a dozen million people with a grudge could walk into the local meeting house and walk back out with a copy of this in just a few minutes.
What economic impact? most materials from the Church that have any cost assosiated with them are just at-cost. Its not like this was the big money maker.
Its not about it getting out. It is already availible. Its about a copyright. Had they done the same to the pamphlets that the Church hands out then I wager they would have done the same thing.
That would be true. Except there isn't anything in there that would surprise anybody who has been seriously studying us for more than a few days.
Just because an organization (religious, political, or business) is recruiting members dosnt mean you have to tell them everything about how you work internally before they join.
I also am a member, and was a bit surprised to see over 700 comments on this thread already. The documents in question are not really "secret". They are copyrighted and private. I also have read them several times and there isnt much in there that anyone familier with us wouldn't already guess.
I thought Wikileaks was for exposing improper business dealings, illegal practices, and general "whistleblowing". This is just copyright infringment of standard operating procedure. If I was to break out the Employee handbook for the retails store I work at then nobody would give a hoot. But because its the "secretive Mormons" then it is a big deal. Not much different really.
There are case studies of kids(boys) who have "accidents" during circumsion and the parents decide to try and raise them as a girl because female genitilia are eaiser to recreate artificially than male. They dont really work very well. The first one to be done is (now) a guy named David. he was raised for the first 15 years of his life as a girl before they told him what happened and he decided he wanted to be a guy. So they reversed what they did before, he got married and its a happy ending. Thats a non-elective transsexual surgery.
thats about as real as it gets.... the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints based out of Salt Lake City, UT has NO CONNECTION to ANY other church practicing polygamy.
Your not even close my friend. The text in question was discovered along with several texts in a sarcophagus by an archeologist with no connection to the LDS Church and brought to the US. Long story short, Joseph Smith purchased them. I dont recall exactly, but only about 13% of the documents known to have been in his possession still survive.
I have no idea what your talking about in that last paragraph. Other? Gods dying?
According to the theory of evolution, everything develops because it randomly mutates and gives an individual some sort of reproductive advantage that increases its chances of reproducing and passing the trait along. That kind of breaks down when you have stuff like this come up that is so uniquely developed. Where did it begin? What "advantage" is the crystal structure over a normal green coloring? How was that so important to propagate over the entire species and develop so far? At some point there had to have been some beetle that had a slightly crystalic formation, and then its offspring had a little more advanced crystal etc etc.
.1 inches longer than the others?
Some traits it is obvious how it could develop, ie walking upright. It has a continuous advantage than increases as it develops. But something like this has absolutely no reason to develop. It might make it shiny green NOW that it IS developed. But during the eons of time it would take then it has no reason to do so. Another example going farther off topic, an elephants trunk. A long trunk is obviously helpful. But where was the cow/horse/whatever like animal that was so reproductively successful because its nose was genetically predisposed to be
But this being slashdot ill probably get flamed for criticizing evolution and defending intelligent design.
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Except those ARE protected and the only people that harvest them do so illegally. I dont think anyone is suggesting to illegalize collecting crystals
Ironicly, we really can invest in oil production. It would help the oil crisis as well as reduce the need for landfills/recycling. I look forward to the day where instead of treating sewage and waste with chemicals we dump it in a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization plant and get out good ol black gold and sterile water.
A windmill is actually arguably more complex than a nuclear generator as there are a lot more (and smaller) moving parts. Note, I am speaking about the reactor core itself as it is the only "nuclear" part of the whole system. The steam turbine and other parts of the facility aren't really any more dangerous than what you have at a coal plant and are easily maintainable.
Also, while a nuke plant might "break", new core designs are *theoretically* impossible to meltdown because the reaction isn't enough to maintain itself without assistance.
I thought I was the only one that was hypnotized by defragging software...
Funny you mention that the MALWARE encyclopedia for an ANTIVIRUS program is next to useless. It should be. Because it shouldnt have one.
I used AVG up until they committed the sin of bundling all their wonderful products together for the customers ultimate satisfaction. Version 8 made the UI look all pretty true, but it also is very lacking in any actual options. While trying to configure it after updating then I found on their help site 3 menus/check boxes referenced that simply did not exist in the program. Also, if I remember correctly, it has a bundle with Yahoo toolbar that tries to install itself unless you unselect it.
In short, AVG is dying out. I dropped it and went with ClamWin. Open source products are just getting more and more attractive every day.
I thought of that too. NoScript blocked 4 or 5 scripts from running. I didnt look to see what they were or where from though. So much for anti-flash flaming.
Except the greater part of active practicing Mormons are familiar with the behind-the-scenes handbook.
Your argument dosn't work when everyone really does know whats going on and the Shepard and the flock rotate positions on a regular basis.
If you really dont care anymore, why would a Church discipline council humiliate you?
Just like the Bible!
(1) the material here is managorial, not doctrinal. So the divine attribution dosn't count.
(2) Everything in the text is common knowledge to members who have been around a while.
(3)The LDS Church hardly restricts access to learning about its doctrines
(4)There isnt anything secret about it and copyright extends farther than just for-profit material.
Did you actually read the article? What "horrific treatment" does it talk about? Therapy?
Dont forget to excomunicate the ones responsible then charge them with murder!
It is hardly under high security. Anyone of a dozen million people with a grudge could walk into the local meeting house and walk back out with a copy of this in just a few minutes.
What economic impact? most materials from the Church that have any cost assosiated with them are just at-cost. Its not like this was the big money maker.
Sirambrose has it right there.
Like Einstein?
Its not about it getting out. It is already availible. Its about a copyright. Had they done the same to the pamphlets that the Church hands out then I wager they would have done the same thing.
The law always worked for us? Wow. Have you ever actually looked at LDS history?
That would be true. Except there isn't anything in there that would surprise anybody who has been seriously studying us for more than a few days.
Just because an organization (religious, political, or business) is recruiting members dosnt mean you have to tell them everything about how you work internally before they join.
I also am a member, and was a bit surprised to see over 700 comments on this thread already. The documents in question are not really "secret". They are copyrighted and private. I also have read them several times and there isnt much in there that anyone familier with us wouldn't already guess.
I thought Wikileaks was for exposing improper business dealings, illegal practices, and general "whistleblowing". This is just copyright infringment of standard operating procedure. If I was to break out the Employee handbook for the retails store I work at then nobody would give a hoot. But because its the "secretive Mormons" then it is a big deal. Not much different really.
There are case studies of kids(boys) who have "accidents" during circumsion and the parents decide to try and raise them as a girl because female genitilia are eaiser to recreate artificially than male. They dont really work very well. The first one to be done is (now) a guy named David. he was raised for the first 15 years of his life as a girl before they told him what happened and he decided he wanted to be a guy. So they reversed what they did before, he got married and its a happy ending. Thats a non-elective transsexual surgery.
Get real?
thats about as real as it gets.... the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints based out of Salt Lake City, UT has NO CONNECTION to ANY other church practicing polygamy.
Your not even close my friend. The text in question was discovered along with several texts in a sarcophagus by an archeologist with no connection to the LDS Church and brought to the US. Long story short, Joseph Smith purchased them. I dont recall exactly, but only about 13% of the documents known to have been in his possession still survive.
I have no idea what your talking about in that last paragraph. Other? Gods dying?