they tested old bikes that were NOT equipped with Catalytic converters. They were FAIL from the first moment.
Then their last test they used a freaking DIRT BIKE instead of a road bike, but it actually had a catalytic converter and fuel injection... but tuned for OFFROAD use so it can by law have higher emissions.. Again. do the whole test with a road bike that is modern with a catalyst converter and suddenly their tests will be different.
Mythbusters is purely entertainment and ZERO content on occasion. and this one is a big "for entertainment use only" as they did not do enough research from the start.
Comparing catalytic converter equipped cars to motorcycles is stupid. it has only been the last 2 years that Catalytic converters on bikes have became law.
Next on mythbusters, Are chainsaws good for the environment? we compare them to hand saws!
right now there are a LOT of smaller CC bikes for sale cheap. $800.00 is what I saw recently for a ninja 250 that has never been laid down and looked new with less than 2500 miles on it.
Maybe if you even knew something about motorcycles or even looked at prices you would have a valid argument.
The fanbois are out in numbers this morning. I see they modded you to hell for posting the truth.
I would LOVE to see a real competitor for the ipad from someone. and it's not hard to reach. give us decent equilivant hardware, PURE android, and a $350-$400 pricepoint. Hell make it better hardware, titanium case, thicker gorilla glass that will not break if dropped, and get me a real 10+hour on and running at full blast on both cores runtime and I'm all over it like stink on poo. even at a $550.00 price point.
For some reason these companies are refusing to do it, they are afraid of competing with apple. They want to release crappy specs with a bastardized OS for around the price, or fancy e-readers for around $200.00
Bingo! Which is why I wrote off hacked android devices as a tablet a while ago. I have already been down this road and ran into those bumps.
if you want a great functioning tablet get an already designed as a generic android tablet running ICS out of the box, a galaxy tab or Xoom. Yes you need to spend $400+ to get one that works great. problem is even after you buy a real tablet, you STILL need to hack it because samsung and motrola bastardize the OS. It seems it is impossible for a company to leave android pure and deliver it on a device.
There is no free lunch, contrary to what others say. the only chance at a free lunch is if someone cracks the nook completely so we can get a decent OS on it.
Of you can afford to waste $5000 on a electric scooter then you can afford to pay insurance on it and let it get lifted and then replace it.
a $800.00 used 250cc-500cc motorcycle will do far, far, FAR more than what this scooter can and still get 100+mpg. Plus you wont look dorky and it wont get stolen. A ninja 250 sportbike is dirt cheap even brand new, less than $4500.00 if you find an honest kawasaki dealer. Plus it has enough power to put a set of givi saddlebags on it so you can carry a LOT of stuff.
Can you get your money back on the electric toy scooter?
used to be? I still will not touch a Piece of Crap american made car. Although that in of it's self is not real. ford,GM and Chrysler cars are made in Canada and assembled in mexico. Part assemblies happen in the us from china made parts.
Honda and Hundai actually are more of a "made in the USA" car than GM or Ford is. Plus they dont do stupid crap like GM.. route the MAIN wire harness out of the cabin right where all spray from the tire will hit so it will corrode out within 5 years. (Grand am 2000-2009, Buick Rondevus, Grand Prix) Or use crap gaskets from china and dexcool crap that eat each other and get water in the oil. (1998-2007 all Gm cars that had the 3400 engine)
Both of the above MAJOR manufacturing/engineering flaws never had a recall.
Yet the 2007 Honda civic I have, I just was sent a letter from honda stating I have a lifetime warranty on my engine for free replacement because some cars had engine blocks that may have a flaw, so to own up to it all honda civic sold from 2006-2007 have a unlimited mileage/ unlimite time warranty on them for engine block cracks or any failures due to this flaw. it will be replaced with a NEW engine.
This is why I will never touch a Piece of crap american car again. The companies refuse to own up to flaws and make things right. BMW, Audi, Honda, subaru, mazda and even KIA have done this in the past. Admit to a problem and make it right to everyone that bought their cars. GM and Ford tell you, "sucks to be you!"
So yes, American made typically means it's garbage.
"I *am* curious why that touchscreen - which is approximately the size of 2 smartphones - was a $1611 upgrade from the basic controls."
Because they can. It's also why $12.95 in thin plastic sticky taped to your vehicle costs $1190 in "performance styling"
All stock Nav systems are crap compared to aftermarkets like Kenwood. yet they cost 3X the price and deliver 2X the features... like real bluetooth from BluAnt or BlueParrot.
I can drive at highway speeds with the windows down and the other end cant tell I'm in the car with my Kenwood Bluetooth hands free setup.
"Heck, GM radios (yes, made by delco or whoever) come with certain features locked out.. to unlock say the input port to work with XM requires plugging it into the shop computer and basically "flipping some bits" in the radio firmware (for lack of better terms) to enable the feature."
Wrong. to enable XM radio you plug in the Receiver module, on power up you press and hold AUX intil the display flashes. it then detects any new devices and enables them.
They don't plug it into the shop computer unless you call the guy smearing grease and dirt all over the inside of the car a "computer"
Most companies love medicore as it had higher profit margins. Even high end companies like Crestron are doing it. I have Crestron gear that is from 10-12 years ago that still runs perfectly. Yet new stuff I install for customers have a 35% failure rate. OR they dont work as reliable as they should. All of crestrons IP enabled WifI touchpanels are complete crap. Even their flagship TPS-6X is not reliable. out of 60 I have installed 30 drop connections or fall over at random times, and all of them have battery life issues due to bad design.
Medicore is higher profit margins for the executives and shareholders. Screw the customer.
Because "ford sync" is actually Microsoft AutoPc from 1999. I had that abortion in my car from clarion. It's buggy, it locks up, voice control barely works, etc...
My nephew bought a new Mustang with it, and when he demoed it I about spit. it's the SAME VOICE and is responding the same way... kind of works. he also mentioned that it stops working at times until he shuts off the car and waits 10 seconds and then restarts it.
Yup. I would hate to tell him how I could lock my version up hard by turning on the ignition, let it boot, then off and on again quickly. I could lock up the autopc so hard it takes a hardware reset and a complete wipe back to factory default to get it working again.
Clarion got pissed when I did that in their demo vehicle at CES in 2000. Yup, same bug that they would not admit exists from a year ago.
sorry but big pump motor controllers dont work like that. the AB scada system cant give it arbitrary numbers. it has a motor controller that takes a input range. either from RS485 or a 0-48 volt input. you cant tell it to go to 11, you cant tell it to do something wierd.
I have worked with SCADA and water filtration plant pumps, big ass pumps, like 650hp pumps that run on 7200volts.
You cant set it to "burn out". you can adjust the speed of the pump from 10% to 100% the only way to kill a pump is to drop power to it without dropping power to it's valve so it will not close. wait for the pump to start spinning backwards from the water running back downhill through the pump and then slamming the power back on at 100% after the pump was free wheeling in reverse at full speed.
Then they don't burn out, they freaking explode.
This happened when we lost power plant wide and a hydraulic failure kept the valve from auto closing. (not electronic, it's a mechanical/hydraulic thing, a blockage in the pressure line)
Unless the plant was designed by a utter moron and made it so a programming error could blow up parts of the plant.
Your phone should have the ability to turn off Cellular data, even the super locked down, anti-freedom, hate the users (I'm quoting android people here) iphone allows that.
I turn off cellphone data on my iphone a lot of times. All i can afford is the 200MB plan, which is a rip off, but they force it upon you if you have an iphone... I guess they kill puppies if you use one without a data plan..
Flipping off the boss as he leaves the room, playing angry birds during the meeting, or putting the phone conference on mute and ignoring it completely while we talk about random crap is ok then? the detector is not flagging those.
"That means that for about nine weeks a year, I'm a slave to the company."
you negotiated wrong. My on call in my contract states. IF after hours, every time my phone rings for an on call emergency, I get a $200.00 bonus added to my paycheck.
They liked it so much they added it to all the other guys. IT stopped the morons from Marketing from working all night, deleting something and calling on call to get it restored if it cost their department $200.00 every time they called us.
Plus I have no problem getting a bonus like that every time the phone rings at 1am.
if you are using text messages for critical alerts you are failing. Texts are not guaranteed to ever reach their destination or arrive in a timely manner. I already dealt with this with a customer, AT&T told them. "Texts are for entertainment and can and will get lost, do not use them for anything important."
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Sorry you cant read.. it's something I WOULD PAY FOR...
troll.
Ok too harsh... but you are still wrong....
http://chicago.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=motorcycle&srchType=A&minAsk=800&maxAsk=900
Gobs of very good bikes for $800-$900.
They are all over the place in great shape. you really need to look.
And that mythbusters was completely bad.
they tested old bikes that were NOT equipped with Catalytic converters. They were FAIL from the first moment.
Then their last test they used a freaking DIRT BIKE instead of a road bike, but it actually had a catalytic converter and fuel injection... but tuned for OFFROAD use so it can by law have higher emissions.. Again. do the whole test with a road bike that is modern with a catalyst converter and suddenly their tests will be different.
Mythbusters is purely entertainment and ZERO content on occasion. and this one is a big "for entertainment use only" as they did not do enough research from the start.
Comparing catalytic converter equipped cars to motorcycles is stupid. it has only been the last 2 years that Catalytic converters on bikes have became law.
Next on mythbusters, Are chainsaws good for the environment? we compare them to hand saws!
You know absolutely nothing at all.
right now there are a LOT of smaller CC bikes for sale cheap. $800.00 is what I saw recently for a ninja 250 that has never been laid down and looked new with less than 2500 miles on it.
Maybe if you even knew something about motorcycles or even looked at prices you would have a valid argument.
The fanbois are out in numbers this morning. I see they modded you to hell for posting the truth.
I would LOVE to see a real competitor for the ipad from someone. and it's not hard to reach. give us decent equilivant hardware, PURE android, and a $350-$400 pricepoint. Hell make it better hardware, titanium case, thicker gorilla glass that will not break if dropped, and get me a real 10+hour on and running at full blast on both cores runtime and I'm all over it like stink on poo. even at a $550.00 price point.
For some reason these companies are refusing to do it, they are afraid of competing with apple. They want to release crappy specs with a bastardized OS for around the price, or fancy e-readers for around $200.00
Bingo! Which is why I wrote off hacked android devices as a tablet a while ago. I have already been down this road and ran into those bumps.
if you want a great functioning tablet get an already designed as a generic android tablet running ICS out of the box, a galaxy tab or Xoom. Yes you need to spend $400+ to get one that works great. problem is even after you buy a real tablet, you STILL need to hack it because samsung and motrola bastardize the OS. It seems it is impossible for a company to leave android pure and deliver it on a device.
There is no free lunch, contrary to what others say. the only chance at a free lunch is if someone cracks the nook completely so we can get a decent OS on it.
The computer maker will put it there for us. Dell and HP know what is best! They will choose the holy OS for us all!
Nerds will use a paperclip in a usb port to enter it in a serial binary format.
Of you can afford to waste $5000 on a electric scooter then you can afford to pay insurance on it and let it get lifted and then replace it.
a $800.00 used 250cc-500cc motorcycle will do far, far, FAR more than what this scooter can and still get 100+mpg. Plus you wont look dorky and it wont get stolen. A ninja 250 sportbike is dirt cheap even brand new, less than $4500.00 if you find an honest kawasaki dealer. Plus it has enough power to put a set of givi saddlebags on it so you can carry a LOT of stuff.
Can you get your money back on the electric toy scooter?
and they are junk. Viper bike alarms are easy to defeat. I saw one disabled in a sportbike in 30 seconds at a motorcycle rally.
All of them have double DIN. cars that have the integrated look stock radio you can buy scosche kits that make them look better than OEM.
You are thinking the retarded American cars of the 70-s to 90's where they had 1.5 din openings.
used to be? I still will not touch a Piece of Crap american made car. Although that in of it's self is not real. ford,GM and Chrysler cars are made in Canada and assembled in mexico. Part assemblies happen in the us from china made parts.
Honda and Hundai actually are more of a "made in the USA" car than GM or Ford is. Plus they dont do stupid crap like GM.. route the MAIN wire harness out of the cabin right where all spray from the tire will hit so it will corrode out within 5 years. (Grand am 2000-2009, Buick Rondevus, Grand Prix) Or use crap gaskets from china and dexcool crap that eat each other and get water in the oil. (1998-2007 all Gm cars that had the 3400 engine)
Both of the above MAJOR manufacturing/engineering flaws never had a recall.
Yet the 2007 Honda civic I have, I just was sent a letter from honda stating I have a lifetime warranty on my engine for free replacement because some cars had engine blocks that may have a flaw, so to own up to it all honda civic sold from 2006-2007 have a unlimited mileage/ unlimite time warranty on them for engine block cracks or any failures due to this flaw. it will be replaced with a NEW engine.
This is why I will never touch a Piece of crap american car again. The companies refuse to own up to flaws and make things right. BMW, Audi, Honda, subaru, mazda and even KIA have done this in the past. Admit to a problem and make it right to everyone that bought their cars. GM and Ford tell you, "sucks to be you!"
So yes, American made typically means it's garbage.
"I *am* curious why that touchscreen - which is approximately the size of 2 smartphones - was a $1611 upgrade from the basic controls."
Because they can. It's also why $12.95 in thin plastic sticky taped to your vehicle costs $1190 in "performance styling"
All stock Nav systems are crap compared to aftermarkets like Kenwood. yet they cost 3X the price and deliver 2X the features... like real bluetooth from BluAnt or BlueParrot.
I can drive at highway speeds with the windows down and the other end cant tell I'm in the car with my Kenwood Bluetooth hands free setup.
"Heck, GM radios (yes, made by delco or whoever) come with certain features locked out.. to unlock say the input port to work with XM requires plugging it into the shop computer and basically "flipping some bits" in the radio firmware (for lack of better terms) to enable the feature."
Wrong. to enable XM radio you plug in the Receiver module, on power up you press and hold AUX intil the display flashes. it then detects any new devices and enables them.
They don't plug it into the shop computer unless you call the guy smearing grease and dirt all over the inside of the car a "computer"
Most companies love medicore as it had higher profit margins. Even high end companies like Crestron are doing it. I have Crestron gear that is from 10-12 years ago that still runs perfectly. Yet new stuff I install for customers have a 35% failure rate. OR they dont work as reliable as they should. All of crestrons IP enabled WifI touchpanels are complete crap. Even their flagship TPS-6X is not reliable. out of 60 I have installed 30 drop connections or fall over at random times, and all of them have battery life issues due to bad design.
Medicore is higher profit margins for the executives and shareholders. Screw the customer.
Because "ford sync" is actually Microsoft AutoPc from 1999. I had that abortion in my car from clarion. It's buggy, it locks up, voice control barely works, etc...
My nephew bought a new Mustang with it, and when he demoed it I about spit. it's the SAME VOICE and is responding the same way... kind of works. he also mentioned that it stops working at times until he shuts off the car and waits 10 seconds and then restarts it.
Yup. I would hate to tell him how I could lock my version up hard by turning on the ignition, let it boot, then off and on again quickly. I could lock up the autopc so hard it takes a hardware reset and a complete wipe back to factory default to get it working again.
Clarion got pissed when I did that in their demo vehicle at CES in 2000. Yup, same bug that they would not admit exists from a year ago.
at least 25 times, SDLT tapes are durable as hell.
sorry but big pump motor controllers dont work like that. the AB scada system cant give it arbitrary numbers. it has a motor controller that takes a input range. either from RS485 or a 0-48 volt input. you cant tell it to go to 11, you cant tell it to do something wierd.
I have worked with SCADA and water filtration plant pumps, big ass pumps, like 650hp pumps that run on 7200volts.
You cant set it to "burn out". you can adjust the speed of the pump from 10% to 100% the only way to kill a pump is to drop power to it without dropping power to it's valve so it will not close. wait for the pump to start spinning backwards from the water running back downhill through the pump and then slamming the power back on at 100% after the pump was free wheeling in reverse at full speed.
Then they don't burn out, they freaking explode.
This happened when we lost power plant wide and a hydraulic failure kept the valve from auto closing. (not electronic, it's a mechanical/hydraulic thing, a blockage in the pressure line)
Unless the plant was designed by a utter moron and made it so a programming error could blow up parts of the plant.
Your phone should have the ability to turn off Cellular data, even the super locked down, anti-freedom, hate the users (I'm quoting android people here) iphone allows that.
I turn off cellphone data on my iphone a lot of times. All i can afford is the 200MB plan, which is a rip off, but they force it upon you if you have an iphone... I guess they kill puppies if you use one without a data plan..
I can not find ONE person on this planet that feels bad for them.
Gouging for SMS messaging costs, Gouging on Data costs, etc...
Boo fricking hoo Cellphone companies..... I'll throw a pity party in your honour this holiday season.
Flipping off the boss as he leaves the room, playing angry birds during the meeting, or putting the phone conference on mute and ignoring it completely while we talk about random crap is ok then? the detector is not flagging those.
and I wake up with it stuck in my nostril. No thanks.
Breathe right strips that are glued to your nose end up on my forehead by morning...
"That means that for about nine weeks a year, I'm a slave to the company."
you negotiated wrong. My on call in my contract states. IF after hours, every time my phone rings for an on call emergency, I get a $200.00 bonus added to my paycheck.
They liked it so much they added it to all the other guys. IT stopped the morons from Marketing from working all night, deleting something and calling on call to get it restored if it cost their department $200.00 every time they called us.
Plus I have no problem getting a bonus like that every time the phone rings at 1am.
if you are using text messages for critical alerts you are failing. Texts are not guaranteed to ever reach their destination or arrive in a timely manner. I already dealt with this with a customer, AT&T told them. "Texts are for entertainment and can and will get lost, do not use them for anything important."
Texts? IF they text me they will NEVER get me. they can stop being lazy and freaking CALL my cellphone.