And I'm a 2nd generation here. The problem is that legaleese is nothing like english. I have a BS in Computer Science and I speak well, however I have difficulty in reading language written to purposly be ambiguous in the favor of the company issuing the licenses.
So what the fuck do you want? Do you want them to hold your hand and explain it to you in person? Where would they have room on the outside of the box to display the entire EULA?
If they stuck it on the box, next you would complain about the type being too small.
No. I want them to write the license in HS level english. Something that someone without a legal degree can 100% comprehend. Is that too hard to grasp ?
And maybe, just maybe that's why 90% of the country is thinking, "Well gee, I wonder why these muslim guys are trying to kill us? What did we ever do to them?"
Yeah, and those Americans are right. We never did anything to those people, and they need to realize it and get the fuck over it already.
The reason they hate us is ( I believe ) due to our support of Israel. If Israel assasinates a non-israeli political figure, the US Government claims that they are justified. If the Palistinians were to do that, they are condemned as terrorists.
Sorry. In my opinion, Isarael is the largest terrorist state in the middle east and the reason we are hated is because we refuse to hold them to the same standards as we hold the rest of the middle east ( Muslim ).
If you kill innocent bystanders, you are a terrorist. PERIOD. Israel is just as guilty as the Palistinan fighters.
NOTE: My Grandfather was Syrian/Lebanese so perhaps I'm a little biased in this.
Bullshit. Some parents are just too busy to do their jobs. I don't know that I can blame them; sometimes the situation dictates both parents working 50+ hour weeks just to pay bills and put food on the table. Sometimes they're just lazy. But when it comes down to it and it's little Jimmy's birthday and he wants to buy a video game with his spare money, you better bet that they'll end up cajoled into buying it.
BS.. Both parents work so that they can both have their SUVs and their vacation in the Bahama's every winter and Disney World during the summer. Far to many families have both parents working because they WANT to work to have money to buy their kids loves rather than being a parent and maybe not being liked by their spawn.
It may make a few parents take note, but it will probably just irritate other parents who have to take the time to go buy the game themselves. Do you all - or even most - parents are going to pay attention?
The Government in no way shape or form should be parents. Do you really want politians who couldn't balance a budget if their lives depended on it teaching morals and decision making to children ?
umm, see, that is the thing. if there is no copyright, and only patent, then all software would be open source. you have to publish the schematics of how it works and that is done in software through publishing the code.
Not quite. They wouldn't need to publish anything. They aren't saying the code must be published, only that it isn't copyrightable.
There's no silver bullet for licences either. The OpenBSDers want their system licenced under their rules, and more power to them. They have to remove all GPL code to do this beacuse the GPL is a more or less all or nothing free software licence.
Then is Open BSD going to stop using GCC ? I mean, GCC is GPL so it is using GPL software to create their system, right ?
In the current system your illness isn't likely to be cured soon unless there is a significant market for the cure.
What are you kidding ? Medicine Producing Companies will NEVER cure anything. Cures immediately close the market for a product. Why do you think we have so many allergy treatments and no cures ? Why do you think we have arthritis treatments but no real cures ?
The answer: Cures = Limited Profit ( once cured, they aren't customers anymore), Treatments ( that don't kill ) = Perpetual Unlimited Profit
It is set so that you can only "win" so many points per per day per game. Granted, you could lose a ton ( perhaps they should implement a Max Loss per day that matches the Win so that if you can't win more than 5K Neopoints a day, you can't lose more than that either.)
But I mean, Neopets has a bunch of great games to kill time with and unwind ( for adults ) and some actually help kids with memory ( a concentration type game ).
I agreee. While Manos Hands of Fate was bad, this moving was mind numbingly horrible. My wife and I got it from a bargain bin and figured that with Leslie Nielson it shouldn't be too bad. A parody of space movies.
Boy were we wrong. We just watched the whole thing thinking that it would eventually get better.. and it did ( when the credits finished and it was over ). We still have it and will use it the next time we get any houseguests that over stay their welcome.
It may well be, that your post substantially helped to get the mention in the FAQ shortly thereafter. On 25th Oct 1999.
Possibly, I don't know. As I had said, if they had just said. "Nope. Sorry but we don't supply an ISO Image" I would have been satisfied, but to be dumped on for a honest question is never right. And the more I looked into things, the more that I saw Theo was the sort of person who "Doesn't work and play with others very well" . Such is life. I'm quite happy with FreeBSD now. Such is life.
Oh no... You asked a FAQ, one that is addressed in dozens of places on every OpenBSD site, and you got sligtly rude answers.
Well.. I DID RTFM at the time. I saw nothing either saying "We don't do ISO images" or
"We do ISO images". That was added after my initial inquiries. Had it been there when I asked, I wouldn't have said anything.
I'm sure they won't miss you... You'd just have flooded the lists and news groups with even more dumb questions, flames, etc.
Flooded the lists with crap ? I don't think so. I avoid posting until I have googled for a problem/solution and I don't find one. And, I have been a software engineer ( Yes. I have a BS in Computer Science ) for 17 years and I am still developing software and doing system administration along with tech support so I really hate asking questions that are in FAQ's.
Also, I am an active developer on the Linux HA ( High Availablility) for a fairly long time. I'm their non-linux release engineer. So from that list, I'm quite familiar with people who don't RTFM or read the FAQ's. Its annoying but you deal with it. You should avoid copping attitudes with people who may honestly made a mistake or misread something.
In either such case, OpenBSD be putting itself into harm's way. I personally don't like how they refuse to release iso's, so that you have to buy the CDs. The CD, mind you, is an unfortunate whopping $40.
I hear you. I basically refuse to deal with OpenBSD because they won't do an ISO . I asked about this and got an earfull and a spitload of attitude. Oh well.. I'll just continue to use OpenSSH ( and not pay them ) and its their loss not mine.
My wife and I were in there and purchasing a $ 400 printer and 5 $ 20 DVD's.
The sales drone started to ring up our order and asked if we wanted the plan, we said no. He got indignant and said, 'Do you understand what I'm offering ?' and again I politely said No thank you. He basically said, you buy insurance for your home ( yes.. But not at 10% of the home's cost for only 3 years of insurance ). And I've never had an HP printer die on mye.
Long story short, we walked away and went to the manager. He was like "Sorry.. he is just really passionate about the service plans".
No. He's an idiot. He nearly cost a $ 500 sale because he wanted to push a $ 40 plan ( because they get points for extra vacation days, etc. ). And the DVD's weren't around so we didn't even get the $ 100 of DVD's that we were going to buy...
Now. We only go to them for the sales ( and I refuse to deal with them for Black Friday sales since you have to get there at like 3 am to get the vouchers for the products.
Move-On isn't a "democratic" site. They are a site to return the government to the people.. I just happens that the current regime is Repulican/Corporation instead of "The people of the United States".
According to Find Law it would appear that only for DUI can the force a blood test ( and if you don't, they suspend your license unless you can prove you weren't under the influence.
Couldn't they just as easily notified their customers (in writing - in your bill ) and said that as of "July 1, 2004 12:00 AM, we will be blocking Port 25. If you have no idea what this means, you are fine.
This would work I'd think, block all and unblock on request ( and then charge people operating servers on their public linw.
Wait... you mean you don't see lower gas prices when the price of oil drops?
Uhhhh. Yeah you do. You just don't see it the same damn day. It takes time to get oil through refineries and pushed out to individual stations. But the price certainly does (and will again) go down.
Then why is it that the minute the oil prices rise, the gas stations immediately raise their prices ( as if the cost of the fuel in their tanks went up instantly ).
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And I'm a 2nd generation here. The problem is that legaleese is nothing like english. I have a BS in Computer Science and I speak well, however I have difficulty in reading language written to purposly be ambiguous in the favor of the company issuing the licenses.
You don't have a CompuUSA, Fry's or Best Buy nearby ? I've actually seen them there ( granted its usually a version or so behind ).
If they stuck it on the box, next you would complain about the type being too small. No. I want them to write the license in HS level english. Something that someone without a legal degree can 100% comprehend. Is that too hard to grasp ?
Then, I'll have my wife buy it. If she as a left nut, she sure as hell doesn' need it ...
Yeah, and those Americans are right. We never did anything to those people, and they need to realize it and get the fuck over it already.
The reason they hate us is ( I believe ) due to our support of Israel. If Israel assasinates a non-israeli political figure, the US Government claims that they are justified. If the Palistinians were to do that, they are condemned as terrorists.
Sorry. In my opinion, Isarael is the largest terrorist state in the middle east and the reason we are hated is because we refuse to hold them to the same standards as we hold the rest of the middle east ( Muslim ).
If you kill innocent bystanders, you are a terrorist. PERIOD. Israel is just as guilty as the Palistinan fighters.
NOTE: My Grandfather was Syrian/Lebanese so perhaps I'm a little biased in this.
BS.. Both parents work so that they can both have their SUVs and their vacation in the Bahama's every winter and Disney World during the summer. Far to many families have both parents working because they WANT to work to have money to buy their kids loves rather than being a parent and maybe not being liked by their spawn.
It may make a few parents take note, but it will probably just irritate other parents who have to take the time to go buy the game themselves. Do you all - or even most - parents are going to pay attention?
The Government in no way shape or form should be parents. Do you really want politians who couldn't balance a budget if their lives depended on it teaching morals and decision making to children ?
Not quite. They wouldn't need to publish anything. They aren't saying the code must be published, only that it isn't copyrightable.
You god damned son of a bitch! F'n Piece of shit!
And the software would translate part of that into Pizza Ship ( from when my wife tried the software a few years back ).
Then is Open BSD going to stop using GCC ? I mean, GCC is GPL so it is using GPL software to create their system, right ?
What are you kidding ? Medicine Producing Companies will NEVER cure anything. Cures immediately close the market for a product. Why do you think we have so many allergy treatments and no cures ? Why do you think we have arthritis treatments but no real cures ?
The answer: Cures = Limited Profit ( once cured, they aren't customers anymore), Treatments ( that don't kill ) = Perpetual Unlimited Profit
It is set so that you can only "win" so many points per per day per game. Granted, you could lose a ton ( perhaps they should implement a Max Loss per day that matches the Win so that if you can't win more than 5K Neopoints a day, you can't lose more than that either.)
But I mean, Neopets has a bunch of great games to kill time with and unwind ( for adults ) and some actually help kids with memory ( a concentration type game ).
Just wait for it to get to Los Alimos, it will dissapear from them quickley enough...
Boy were we wrong. We just watched the whole thing thinking that it would eventually get better.. and it did ( when the credits finished and it was over ). We still have it and will use it the next time we get any houseguests that over stay their welcome.
Possibly, I don't know. As I had said, if they had just said. "Nope. Sorry but we don't supply an ISO Image" I would have been satisfied, but to be dumped on for a honest question is never right. And the more I looked into things, the more that I saw Theo was the sort of person who "Doesn't work and play with others very well" . Such is life. I'm quite happy with FreeBSD now. Such is life.
Well.. I DID RTFM at the time. I saw nothing either saying "We don't do ISO images" or "We do ISO images". That was added after my initial inquiries. Had it been there when I asked, I wouldn't have said anything.
I'm sure they won't miss you... You'd just have flooded the lists and news groups with even more dumb questions, flames, etc.
Flooded the lists with crap ? I don't think so. I avoid posting until I have googled for a problem/solution and I don't find one. And, I have been a software engineer ( Yes. I have a BS in Computer Science ) for 17 years and I am still developing software and doing system administration along with tech support so I really hate asking questions that are in FAQ's .
Also, I am an active developer on the Linux HA ( High Availablility) for a fairly long time. I'm their non-linux release engineer. So from that list, I'm quite familiar with people who don't RTFM or read the FAQ's. Its annoying but you deal with it. You should avoid copping attitudes with people who may honestly made a mistake or misread something.
I hear you. I basically refuse to deal with OpenBSD because they won't do an ISO . I asked about this and got an earfull and a spitload of attitude. Oh well.. I'll just continue to use OpenSSH ( and not pay them ) and its their loss not mine.
I hear that.
My wife and I were in there and purchasing a $ 400 printer and 5 $ 20 DVD's.
The sales drone started to ring up our order and asked if we wanted the plan, we said no. He got indignant and said, 'Do you understand what I'm offering ?' and again I politely said No thank you. He basically said, you buy insurance for your home ( yes.. But not at 10% of the home's cost for only 3 years of insurance ). And I've never had an HP printer die on mye.
Long story short, we walked away and went to the manager. He was like "Sorry.. he is just really passionate about the service plans".
No. He's an idiot. He nearly cost a $ 500 sale because he wanted to push a $ 40 plan ( because they get points for extra vacation days, etc. ). And the DVD's weren't around so we didn't even get the $ 100 of DVD's that we were going to buy...
Now. We only go to them for the sales ( and I refuse to deal with them for Black Friday sales since you have to get there at like 3 am to get the vouchers for the products.
Brief Note..
Move-On isn't a "democratic" site. They are a site to return the government to the people.. I just happens that the current regime is Repulican/Corporation instead of "The people of the United States".
It happens if one editor rejects it while another one approves it. You don't get the credit for it.
According to Find Law it would appear that only for DUI can the force a blood test ( and if you don't, they suspend your license unless you can prove you weren't under the influence.
BUT...
Couldn't they just as easily notified their customers (in writing - in your bill ) and said that as of "July 1, 2004 12:00 AM, we will be blocking Port 25. If you have no idea what this means, you are fine.
This would work I'd think, block all and unblock on request ( and then charge people operating servers on their public linw.
But you also need to take into account that these foreign workers :
So how can you compete when they can feed a family of 10 on 10K a year and have housing while you would be in poverty here if you made that much ?
What have they contributed ? How about The Tomcat Servlet Container ?
Uhhhh. Yeah you do. You just don't see it the same damn day. It takes time to get oil through refineries and pushed out to individual stations. But the price certainly does (and will again) go down.
Then why is it that the minute the oil prices rise, the gas stations immediately raise their prices ( as if the cost of the fuel in their tanks went up instantly ).
Or better yet,
I hope this guy gets roasted on spit on in public.