other than the name calling, i agree. most linux users want the most out of the programs on thier box, and they have that ability. "./configure; make; make install" is so easy, and it lets you build it on your own system with your own compiler, most binary releases are 386 optimized for widespread compatibility, a user can say, use pgcc and a pentium class processor and get noticable speed increases using his own home-rolled binary. the use of rpm's has made it easy for users to install binary only stuff, i remember the day when binary only releases were looked down upon, and avoided at all costs!
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Mozilla M12 Released
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I'm not a web designer but aren't there standards out there? Just because Netscape or Microsoft comes out with gee-whizbang custom styles for thier browsers doesn't mean you choose which one to use, don't use either.
I'm sure IE is a nice browser, but since 4.0 came out, I was using IE3, and then I switched to netscape. What microsoft has done with IE and Windows is unacceptable. Shitting it into the OS so I am forced to view every god damn popup as a web page is deplorable. Removing IE completely from the OS using Win9x-lite speeds up everything incredibly. Yes I know you can turn off the web page view but the speed increase isn't seen, and yet every time I reboot my win98 machine, it magically reverts everything back to 'view as web page'. Sorry but I use Netscape now and refuse to use IE4/5 on my windows machine until microsoft fixes their practices, or the DOJ fixes it for them.
want to know what is based on freebsd technology? the micros~1 tcp/ip shit is, right from the start. being able to modify and hide the changes has helped micros~1 get where it is today. Windows 2xxx kill linux? not in my lifetime.
"Then installling games will be a matter of clicking on the RPM in KDE. This is not very far away now, though the news of this delay sets this plan back about 2 months."
UHHH if playing games in X requires me to use KDE and rpms i will go and buy a console game system. I wont use rpm or kde. I like to game. People who release rpm only packages are shooting themselves in the foot.
"Does any one out there really use Gnome or KDE? WM is my favorite, I'm tired of start menu's (This also includes stylized "K"'s and "little feet")
In a recent irc discussion on X and gui's I was asked if I used kde or gnome, as if they were the only two choices. I said neither, I just use plain Window Maker. Then I was told that I was being left behind. Heh. I also don't need MicroSoftian start menus and task bars. Non-kde and non-gnome window managers are light, fast, and infinitely more elegant than the slow bloat being pushed today. Yes I know Window Maker can be used in conjunction with both kde and gnome, but no thanks.
Yes IE 4 is better than Netscape (4). I had a tech support call and upon investigation, a full install of IE4 on a win95a system had IE4 repartition the hard disk into two non-dos partitions that were unusable and unrecoverable.
I can't wait until Netscape gets support for this kind of advanced functionality.
DESCRIPTION fsck is used to check and optionally repair a one or more Linux file systems. filesys can be a device name (e.g./dev/hda1,/dev/sdb2), a mount point (e.g./,/usr,/home), or an ext2 label or UUID specifier (e.g., UUID=8868abf6-88c5-4a83-98b8-bfc24057f7bd or LABEL=root). The fsck program will try to run filesystems on different physical disk drives in parallel to reduce total amount time to check all of the filesystems.
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"I haven't seen a linux kernel panic since I was running an early linux/m68k on an amiga with a 33MHz 68030 overclocked to 42 MHz." You can easily kernel panic on boot if you forget to compile/proc support in on a normal i386 box like fsck did when he first started using linux and recompiled his kernel after not really knowing what he was doing. I have never seen a properly running linux system kernel panic like a properly running NT system blue screens. I'm not so sure that a kernel panic is like a bsod. Do this.. cat/usr/src/linux/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt | grep blizard..to see what looks most like a bsod, again I have never seen this.
someone should post a bait link again and publish the ip's so we can see all the microsoff trollers in this forum. (see above post)
other than the name calling, i agree. most linux users want the most out of the programs on thier box, and they have that ability. "./configure; make; make install" is so easy, and it lets you build it on your own system with your own compiler, most binary releases are 386 optimized for widespread compatibility, a user can say, use pgcc and a pentium class processor and get noticable speed increases using his own home-rolled binary. the use of rpm's has made it easy for users to install binary only stuff, i remember the day when binary only releases were looked down upon, and avoided at all costs!
I'm not a web designer but aren't there standards out there? Just because Netscape or Microsoft comes out with gee-whizbang custom styles for thier browsers doesn't mean you choose which one to use, don't use either.
I'm sure IE is a nice browser, but since 4.0 came out, I was using IE3, and then I switched to netscape. What microsoft has done with IE and Windows is unacceptable. Shitting it into the OS so I am forced to view every god damn popup as a web page is deplorable. Removing IE completely from the OS using Win9x-lite speeds up everything incredibly. Yes I know you can turn off the web page view but the speed increase isn't seen, and yet every time I reboot my win98 machine, it magically reverts everything back to 'view as web page'. Sorry but I use Netscape now and refuse to use IE4/5 on my windows machine until microsoft fixes their practices, or the DOJ fixes it for them.
want to know what is based on freebsd technology?
the micros~1 tcp/ip shit is, right from the start. being able to modify and hide the changes has helped micros~1 get where it is today. Windows 2xxx kill linux? not in my lifetime.
"Then installling games will be a matter of clicking on the RPM in KDE. This is not very far away now, though the news of this delay sets this
plan back about 2 months."
UHHH if playing games in X requires me to use KDE and rpms i will go and buy a console game system. I wont use rpm or kde. I like to game. People who release rpm only packages are shooting themselves in the foot.
"Does any one out there really use Gnome or KDE? WM is my favorite, I'm tired of start menu's (This also includes stylized "K"'s and "little feet")
In a recent irc discussion on X and gui's I was asked if I used kde or gnome, as if they were the only two choices. I said neither, I just use plain Window Maker. Then I was told that I was being left behind. Heh. I also don't need MicroSoftian start menus and task bars. Non-kde and non-gnome window managers are light, fast, and infinitely more elegant than the slow bloat being pushed today. Yes I know Window Maker can be used in conjunction with both kde and gnome, but no thanks.
Yes IE 4 is better than Netscape (4). I had a tech support call and upon investigation, a full install of IE4 on a win95a system had IE4 repartition the hard disk into two non-dos partitions that were unusable and unrecoverable.
I can't wait until Netscape gets support for this kind of advanced functionality.
Actually it sounds more like "winmodem" to me.
FSCK(8)
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/dev/hda1, /dev/sdb2), a mount point (e.g. /, /usr, /home), or an ext2 label or UUID specifier (e.g., UUID=8868abf6-88c5-4a83-98b8-bfc24057f7bd or
NAME
fsck - check and repair a Linux file system
SYNOPSIS
fsck [ -sACVRTNP ] [ -t fstype ] [--] [fsck-options ] filesys [
DESCRIPTION
fsck is used to check and optionally repair a one or more Linux file systems. filesys can be a device name (e.g.
LABEL=root). The fsck program will try to run filesystems on different physical disk drives
in parallel to reduce total amount time to check all of the filesystems.
"I haven't seen a linux kernel panic since I was running an early linux/m68k on an amiga with a 33MHz 68030 overclocked to 42 MHz." You can easily kernel panic on boot if you forget to compile /proc support in on a normal i386 box like fsck did when he first started using linux and recompiled his kernel after not really knowing what he was doing. I have never seen a properly running linux system kernel panic like a properly running NT system blue screens. I'm not so sure that a kernel panic is like a bsod. Do this.. cat /usr/src/linux/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt | grep blizard ..to see what looks most like a bsod, again I have never seen this.
Wow only 50$ american, that means that in canada it will be well over 100$. Ill be first in line.
Not.
I did 3d text in win98 se and got this easter egg:
RUNDLL32 caused a general protection fault
in module USER.EXE at 0003:00006c50.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=17b7 EIP=00006c50 EFLGS=00000206
EBX=00632f34 SS=116f ESP=000085d6 EBP=000085d8
ECX=bff53ce6 DS=16bf ESI=00028656 FS=2db7
EDX=00010000 ES=112f EDI=00020e2a GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
1f c9 ca 0c 00 66 58 5b 66 50 e8 59 fb 55 8b ec
Stack dump:
85f2492f 4b1f07df 492f0092 116f8656 00000000 0000116f 116f036f 6d2a8610 865617b7 0000116f 16bf0000 0e2a52a8 00000002 112f0002 864c0000 17af1a8f
see how fun windows is? who needs this linuz anyways!
its not about suse, bloat or haikus
its about first post and no one seems to know how to read vertically, sort of like haiku kana i guess. hehe.
For starters
I think that
Realistically speaking,
Star office is bloated
The fact that X really needs a office suite on
Par with Microsoft
Office is really important but an integrated
Start bar? gimme a break
Thanks but no thanks ill stick to abiword