Don't know where you live, perhaps they price it out cheaper there, but if you use my zip code and try to price out a blackberry and look at the data plan, the only option is $49.99. And this is off of the general verizonwireless.com site, not the corporate site. Perhaps you are getting a partner discount.
The mandatory blackberry data plan that most carriers require has pretty much killed my desire for a Blackberry. My G1 unlimited data plan is $25 a month. I got it after switching from Verizon, who wanted me to pay like $50 a month on top of voice for the blackberry plan. I know this is not a big deal for someone using one that a company is paying for, but IMO the G1 is a better consumer smart phone, whereas the blackberry is a great corporate smart phone (especially since it's pretty much the best thing under the sun for exchange in a smart phone).
What the fuck are you talking about? The G1 is the most solid smart phone I've ever had. Dropped this son of a bitch from 5 feet (obviously not on purpose) onto a sidewalk, and it handled it like a champ. Also, the most solid slider I've seen. I also don't get the whole battery complaint. If you leave the GPS and WiFi on, yeah it's going to be a battery hog. But I keep both off unless I need them and I get about 2-3 days of average use (internet and phone) before I have to charge it otherwise. And the fact that it charges through USB just makes it easy for me to charge it when I'm at work (family owned place that doesn't care what I hook up to the computer, lucky me).
If you want to legitimately complain about something about the G1, it's the horrible camera on the phone. The resolution is reasonable for a phone, but the performance on the camera (panning, zooming, focusing, etc) is the worst I've ever seen. Good thing I didn't buy it for the camera.
Well, for most hardcore liberals (not necessarily calling the Parent a liberal), because they insist that Bush is a moron (last I checked, having trouble talking in public != stupidity, but another debate for another time), then all Republicans must be idiots and blind to technology. Last I checked, my Unix Bible didn't mention a requirement to lean to the left.
They had the right idea with the Constitution, the problem was that they didn't feel that slaves were "men." Of course we know they were blinded by bigotry or just as likely, convenience, but that doesn't mean that the Constitution shouldn't have protected people who were slaves.
The issue is the fact that slaves existed at all and instead were not free men, not that slaves were not protected by the spirit of the Constitution (I would submit that instead, the government by and large violated the Constitution by allowing slavery in the first place). Whatever reason that Lincoln decided that they should be free men, the Civil War was still a situation where the ends did in fact justify the means. The Southern States had no intention of giving up their slaves, and were willing to fight to defend their "right" to keep slaves. It was the bloodiest conflict on US Soil, but it was a just war for Lincoln to get involved in, despite the fact that not all of his reasons may have been honorable.
I never insisted that the Union was interested in defending the Constitution. I insisted (correctly) that the Southern States were in violation of the Constitution. Two completely different beasts there. Regardless of the intent of the North (rarely are events in history black or white, there are always shades of gray and often times the victor writes history and portrays themselves as faultless), there is no question whatsoever that the South was not in any way in the right, so to speak.
To put matters in perspective, it would've been cheaper to buy all the slaves and a fair amount of land for them than to pay for the civil war.
This was a direct quote from your post. You are inferring that it would've somehow cost less to do this than to pay for the war. Only, you still would've had the same damn problem. So really, in the end, fixing the real problem (biggoted Southern States who were violating the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES) would've cost a lot more.
What in the hell do Republicans have to do with your post? And Obama is just one in a long line of presidents who adopt something that's maybe on the cutting edge (Bush or Clinton at the end of his career adopting a blackberry would've been more cutting edge as they came out in 99). This is similar to presidents that have had plumbing, electricity, etc, installed. And I'm curious, are Republi-nazis similar to Left-wing Hate-Mongers? I love how hypocritical liberals are. Republicans are Nazis, but Liberals are just misunderstood. Yeah, like Nancy Pelosi, who is the worst Speaker of the House the Congress has ever had, hands down.
Yeah, because buying the slaves and land would've fixed the problem. I'm sure that the Southern States, having received said lump sum payment, would've abolished slavery after this. This reminds me of arguments that I have with left wing nuts who claim if we were nice to the terrorists that they'd leave us alone. There is no guarantee that either the states would've sold the north the slaves or that they would've refrained from getting more slaves afterwards.
I live in Florida, and I do not need to shovel snow at all from my driveway, and I can enjoy the nature practically all year round as well. And I don't spend much on heating in the winter, either.
I was referring specifically to the governments, not the general populace. Or did the fact that I put the word "Governments" in there not clue you to that fact?
Jesus, where the fuck do you live? Dropped back down to about a million dollars? Probably California, land of the pretentious idiots. My parents bought their 2500 sq ft house back when housing prices were at their highest here, and it cost $230,000. And it's in a great neighborhood at that. I always laugh when I see the house flipping shows where people buy a house in California that looks like a monkey shit all over it for like $800,000, when I could buy a small mansion here (or in most areas) for that amount.
Correction, I forgot that the Chancellor is not voted into office, but chosen instead by the President in the case of Germany. But now I'm just splitting hairs.
Let's not even forget the fact that both France and Germany as of late have actually had stronger relations with the US since their respective new President and Chancellor have been voted into office. Ironically, both governments are more conservative than our own now.
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Don't know where you live, perhaps they price it out cheaper there, but if you use my zip code and try to price out a blackberry and look at the data plan, the only option is $49.99. And this is off of the general verizonwireless.com site, not the corporate site. Perhaps you are getting a partner discount.
Last I checked, Dell sells plenty of systems with Linux as well. So no, he's not stuck selling computers with Microsoft Windows.
I was going to start railing on you until my sarcasm radar picked up a contact. Kudos.
The mandatory blackberry data plan that most carriers require has pretty much killed my desire for a Blackberry. My G1 unlimited data plan is $25 a month. I got it after switching from Verizon, who wanted me to pay like $50 a month on top of voice for the blackberry plan. I know this is not a big deal for someone using one that a company is paying for, but IMO the G1 is a better consumer smart phone, whereas the blackberry is a great corporate smart phone (especially since it's pretty much the best thing under the sun for exchange in a smart phone).
What the fuck are you talking about? The G1 is the most solid smart phone I've ever had. Dropped this son of a bitch from 5 feet (obviously not on purpose) onto a sidewalk, and it handled it like a champ. Also, the most solid slider I've seen. I also don't get the whole battery complaint. If you leave the GPS and WiFi on, yeah it's going to be a battery hog. But I keep both off unless I need them and I get about 2-3 days of average use (internet and phone) before I have to charge it otherwise. And the fact that it charges through USB just makes it easy for me to charge it when I'm at work (family owned place that doesn't care what I hook up to the computer, lucky me).
If you want to legitimately complain about something about the G1, it's the horrible camera on the phone. The resolution is reasonable for a phone, but the performance on the camera (panning, zooming, focusing, etc) is the worst I've ever seen. Good thing I didn't buy it for the camera.
Nanoprobes would totally whoop Propranolol's ass...
Well, for most hardcore liberals (not necessarily calling the Parent a liberal), because they insist that Bush is a moron (last I checked, having trouble talking in public != stupidity, but another debate for another time), then all Republicans must be idiots and blind to technology. Last I checked, my Unix Bible didn't mention a requirement to lean to the left.
Are you just jealous of a man who in his 70's still probably has more fun than you do?
They had the right idea with the Constitution, the problem was that they didn't feel that slaves were "men." Of course we know they were blinded by bigotry or just as likely, convenience, but that doesn't mean that the Constitution shouldn't have protected people who were slaves.
The issue is the fact that slaves existed at all and instead were not free men, not that slaves were not protected by the spirit of the Constitution (I would submit that instead, the government by and large violated the Constitution by allowing slavery in the first place). Whatever reason that Lincoln decided that they should be free men, the Civil War was still a situation where the ends did in fact justify the means. The Southern States had no intention of giving up their slaves, and were willing to fight to defend their "right" to keep slaves. It was the bloodiest conflict on US Soil, but it was a just war for Lincoln to get involved in, despite the fact that not all of his reasons may have been honorable.
I never insisted that the Union was interested in defending the Constitution. I insisted (correctly) that the Southern States were in violation of the Constitution. Two completely different beasts there. Regardless of the intent of the North (rarely are events in history black or white, there are always shades of gray and often times the victor writes history and portrays themselves as faultless), there is no question whatsoever that the South was not in any way in the right, so to speak.
To put matters in perspective, it would've been cheaper to buy all the slaves and a fair amount of land for them than to pay for the civil war.
This was a direct quote from your post. You are inferring that it would've somehow cost less to do this than to pay for the war. Only, you still would've had the same damn problem. So really, in the end, fixing the real problem (biggoted Southern States who were violating the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES) would've cost a lot more.
Would that be a debate on telegraph-neutrality?
What in the hell do Republicans have to do with your post? And Obama is just one in a long line of presidents who adopt something that's maybe on the cutting edge (Bush or Clinton at the end of his career adopting a blackberry would've been more cutting edge as they came out in 99). This is similar to presidents that have had plumbing, electricity, etc, installed. And I'm curious, are Republi-nazis similar to Left-wing Hate-Mongers? I love how hypocritical liberals are. Republicans are Nazis, but Liberals are just misunderstood. Yeah, like Nancy Pelosi, who is the worst Speaker of the House the Congress has ever had, hands down.
AFAIK, he's the tallest President ever at 6'4". Unless you know of someone else. Most presidents were actually rather average in height.
Yeah, because buying the slaves and land would've fixed the problem. I'm sure that the Southern States, having received said lump sum payment, would've abolished slavery after this. This reminds me of arguments that I have with left wing nuts who claim if we were nice to the terrorists that they'd leave us alone. There is no guarantee that either the states would've sold the north the slaves or that they would've refrained from getting more slaves afterwards.
How about Earthquakes, mudslides, and forest fires?
I live in Florida, and I do not need to shovel snow at all from my driveway, and I can enjoy the nature practically all year round as well. And I don't spend much on heating in the winter, either.
I was referring specifically to the governments, not the general populace. Or did the fact that I put the word "Governments" in there not clue you to that fact?
Jesus, where the fuck do you live? Dropped back down to about a million dollars? Probably California, land of the pretentious idiots. My parents bought their 2500 sq ft house back when housing prices were at their highest here, and it cost $230,000. And it's in a great neighborhood at that. I always laugh when I see the house flipping shows where people buy a house in California that looks like a monkey shit all over it for like $800,000, when I could buy a small mansion here (or in most areas) for that amount.
Correction, I forgot that the Chancellor is not voted into office, but chosen instead by the President in the case of Germany. But now I'm just splitting hairs.
Let's not even forget the fact that both France and Germany as of late have actually had stronger relations with the US since their respective new President and Chancellor have been voted into office. Ironically, both governments are more conservative than our own now.
WHOOOOOOOSH!
No we aren't
She said you came up just a little short. (Sorry, I couldn't resist either :p)
I've been "teleporting" "information" several yards when my wife wants to spice things up in the bedroom.