We have 3 large ones and many small ones scattered here and there (but they are probably going to get bought too). Mine apparently doesn't support IPv6... or maybe it's my router, didn't bother to dig in further.
The total size is not the only thing that matters. What matters is the fact that most pages make requests to as many as 10 domains and 50 URLs when they load. That means multiple DNS requests, multiple connections, etc. There also a lot of pages that load stuff through javascript and/or css which adds another stage or two of loading.
You see a lot of gypsies when you enter the country because gypsies are beggars mostly. They live in train stations, bus stations, markets, etc. because that's where they can find large numbers of people to beg/steal from.
I know I'm only feeding the troll but why not try a wikipedia search for Romania first?
Also, it pains me that they call those fortune tellers Romanian since they're actually gypsies. This is a huge problem for us, the gypsies go in other countries, pull shit like this and worse (stealing, beating people up) and then they say they're Romanian. Everyone thinks Romania is a gypsy country or something.
You guys are are all so clever by pointing out that sending a message to the future only involves *gasp* writing something down and reading it later. Great contribution to the conversation.
And since I'm already writing this, I'll bite and argue that sending a message to the future instantly (or maybe even to an arbitrary date/time) without needing to take care about a piece of paper/rock is obviously useful. E.g. what about sending something into the distant future (100+ years)?
Also, before another smartass starts arguing that the presented method won't work (practically) for such large time frames, I'll counterargue that I'm just talking about a generic transfer of messages to the future, regardless of how or if it's possible.
I still think we(by that I mean 'they') should try a longer delay and see what happens. Even if that only makes the photons' state uncertain for a longer time (milliseconds (seconds?)) I think it's an achievement worth looking into. Maybe we can get some use out of devices that have long periods of uncertain states - e.g. quantum computers
If I RTFA correctly it's the second case but with another measurement at the end for good measure (hehe)... But you are right, if it's the first case, this is basically just quantum physics being wacky.
So once victor knows from alice and bob whether the measurements are correlated, the photons are already entangled/not entangled? That seems like a method for passing information into the future...
Same thing... Entanglement implies correlation -> if victor decides not to entangle the photons (for whatever reasons) and alice and bob get uncorrelated measurements it's still a paradox, isn't it?
Yeah, I really like that. Kind of like the signals sent in medieval times (and in LOTR for example) by lighting up torches(towers) at predefined locations in a domino effect.
Still, creating a paradox would be cooler - i.e. telling victor to entangle the photons when they get different results or vice versa. Maybe that makes time go backwards or something like that just to avoid the paradox
So, are they working on something that makes light travel a long distance and/or go slower before making that "decision", thus achieving a substantial delay that could actually be used for "time travelling information"? That would probably crash the stock market over night because of sensationalist media combined with ignorance but it would still be very cool...
True I guess... Now the selling for point for these could be moving cash from a card to another... That would let you do completely anonymous transactions. Of course, the government probably wouldn't like that since it would let people launder money very easily.
It's not the same... the transaction on those cards (the Protons) are not approved through a central server which makes them vulnerable to the attacks everyone is talking about here.
Also it seems they didn't really fail because of the flimsy security (people abusing them) but because people don't understand them or don't want to use them.
I venture a guess that's because you can't recharge them, they have to be bought at markets which is kinda dumb since if you go to market to buy those you might as well always bring your credit/debit card and use that. If there would be a simple system of transferring money on a prepay card online it would be very useful.
Well it can work like a prepay card. You put money on it with some code or whatever and a server registers the value on it. The places you pay get the confirmation from the server and server registers that the card has less money on it. You don't need a name associated with it.
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We have 3 large ones and many small ones scattered here and there (but they are probably going to get bought too). Mine apparently doesn't support IPv6... or maybe it's my router, didn't bother to dig in further.
Maybe because they get employed by huge corporations and you only hear found the cure for cancer/designed a mind reading device/etc.
The total size is not the only thing that matters. What matters is the fact that most pages make requests to as many as 10 domains and 50 URLs when they load. That means multiple DNS requests, multiple connections, etc. There also a lot of pages that load stuff through javascript and/or css which adds another stage or two of loading.
Touche...
You see a lot of gypsies when you enter the country because gypsies are beggars mostly. They live in train stations, bus stations, markets, etc. because that's where they can find large numbers of people to beg/steal from.
I know I'm only feeding the troll but why not try a wikipedia search for Romania first?
Also, it pains me that they call those fortune tellers Romanian since they're actually gypsies. This is a huge problem for us, the gypsies go in other countries, pull shit like this and worse (stealing, beating people up) and then they say they're Romanian. Everyone thinks Romania is a gypsy country or something.
You guys are are all so clever by pointing out that sending a message to the future only involves *gasp* writing something down and reading it later. Great contribution to the conversation.
And since I'm already writing this, I'll bite and argue that sending a message to the future instantly (or maybe even to an arbitrary date/time) without needing to take care about a piece of paper/rock is obviously useful. E.g. what about sending something into the distant future (100+ years)?
Also, before another smartass starts arguing that the presented method won't work (practically) for such large time frames, I'll counterargue that I'm just talking about a generic transfer of messages to the future, regardless of how or if it's possible.
Trolls trolling trolls that troll trolls.
OK, so what happens if they make the delay like 5seconds and Alice and Bob actually tell Victor what their results are and Victor does the opposite?
I still think we(by that I mean 'they') should try a longer delay and see what happens. Even if that only makes the photons' state uncertain for a longer time (milliseconds (seconds?)) I think it's an achievement worth looking into. Maybe we can get some use out of devices that have long periods of uncertain states - e.g. quantum computers
If I RTFA correctly it's the second case but with another measurement at the end for good measure (hehe)... But you are right, if it's the first case, this is basically just quantum physics being wacky.
We now have a bidirectional time machine.
So once victor knows from alice and bob whether the measurements are correlated, the photons are already entangled/not entangled? That seems like a method for passing information into the future...
Same thing... Entanglement implies correlation -> if victor decides not to entangle the photons (for whatever reasons) and alice and bob get uncorrelated measurements it's still a paradox, isn't it?
Yeah, I really like that. Kind of like the signals sent in medieval times (and in LOTR for example) by lighting up torches(towers) at predefined locations in a domino effect.
Still, creating a paradox would be cooler - i.e. telling victor to entangle the photons when they get different results or vice versa. Maybe that makes time go backwards or something like that just to avoid the paradox
So, are they working on something that makes light travel a long distance and/or go slower before making that "decision", thus achieving a substantial delay that could actually be used for "time travelling information"? That would probably crash the stock market over night because of sensationalist media combined with ignorance but it would still be very cool...
Being freedom-loving and pretending to be freedom-loving while actually being apathetic/lazy are two different things.
Never mind... I see they also filed (and got approved) other similar patents going back to 1996.
Well too bad they filed the patent in 2009 then...
True I guess... Now the selling for point for these could be moving cash from a card to another... That would let you do completely anonymous transactions. Of course, the government probably wouldn't like that since it would let people launder money very easily.
It's not the same... the transaction on those cards (the Protons) are not approved through a central server which makes them vulnerable to the attacks everyone is talking about here.
Also it seems they didn't really fail because of the flimsy security (people abusing them) but because people don't understand them or don't want to use them.
I venture a guess that's because you can't recharge them, they have to be bought at markets which is kinda dumb since if you go to market to buy those you might as well always bring your credit/debit card and use that. If there would be a simple system of transferring money on a prepay card online it would be very useful.
Well it can work like a prepay card. You put money on it with some code or whatever and a server registers the value on it. The places you pay get the confirmation from the server and server registers that the card has less money on it. You don't need a name associated with it.
Very cool idea but I think the speed bump would go solid even at low speeds.
I thought so too but then I realised that this is slashdot and obviously he knows better...
I don't see the irony... Is it that a different type of plasma torch can harm humans?