And if it were just in conversation with someone, there wouldn't be a quote or recording.
The anecdotal evidence is pretty strong on that quote and its attribution - and while it's possible he didn't say it, unless you can prove he didn't say it, he's as logical a choice for the attribution of it as anyone.
I'm sorry, if you can't tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, it's not because there isn't one, it's because your taste buds aren't able to detect it. There IS a difference, and many people are able to taste it. Most of those who can taste it have a preference for one or the other. It's not as much of a difference as between Coke and root beer, but for someone who can taste it, it's a taste shock when they order Coke and are served Pepsi without a warning.
As for the Mac OS, it is distinctly different from windows, and depending on your perspective, it can be either very similar to Linux, or worlds apart. It's not about brand loyalty for some of us - I prefer the Linux/GPL philosophy, but for a desktop platform Mac OS really is the best thing going right now.
This country isn't built on blind obidence. Or shutting up. Or ignoring the details.
I see what you're saying, but a lot of people don't realize that this country WAS built by people whose common ground was saying "You're doing it wrong" and who worked out the details later.
And in this case, the "patriot" act is an act of treason. I don't care how thought out the details are, they're pushing this country and the world in the wrong direction.
The stupid traitors here are the congresscritters who are pushing this, and the ones who are allowing it to happen.
And as for details, I'd far rather risk my life by letting a few terrorists go free than have everything this nation is supposed to stand for destroyed in the name of "security". We don't need the "patriot" act. We never did.
I just looked it up for Tennessee - we do have such a law, or did when I started driving.
"Slow moving vehicles including passenger vehicles behind which five or more vehicles are formed in a line, shall turn or pull off the roadway if sufficent areas exists to do so safely. Slow moving vehicles are defined as a vehicle which is proceeding at a rate of speed which is ten miles per hour or more below the lawful maximum speed." - Tennesse Drivers Handbook, 1986
If you're not 100% sure that you'll register zero, most attorneys will tell you that you should refuse any tests. They can almost always take care of the "implied consent" so you keep your license.
It's much easier to fight a DUI charge if they have no evidence against you, and any blood alcohol will be used against you. As you said, blowing 0.01 can still get you convicted.
The important thing to remember any time you're stopped by the police is that at that moment that officer is not your friend, he's a thug with a gun who wants to cost you a lot of money and/or lock you up to make himself feel better about his genital inadequacy, and he'll use anything you say or do against you. Say as little as possible, and refuse any tests. Let the lawyer sort it out if it comes to that.
But styrofoam didn't exist in the early '40s. It wasn't introduced in the US until 1954, from what I just read.
And considering what kind of mess the Manhattan Project left in Oak Ridge, I think environmentally dangerous pesticides weren't much of a concern, and were the least of anyone's worries anyway.
Product Description Amazon.com Product Description Early Adopters Pick: February 2003. The world's first laptop computer with a full 17-inch display and widescreen dimensions.
With the stunning PowerBook 17-inch G4, Apple merges incredible power, a 17-inch widescreen display (the largest display of any notebook and the same screen dimensions as a 19-inch CRT monitor), and an impressive array of conveniences into a state-of-the-art aluminum alloy enclosure. A true desktop replacement in every sense except in its remarkably space-efficient, 6.8-pound, 15.4-by-10.2-by-1-inch stature, the PowerBook 17-inch G4 is ready for anyone who appreciates and can afford the cutting edge of mobile computing technology.
Well, my opinion is that if you want to write code and use it yourself, you shouldn't be forced to release anything.
But if you want to sell it, it's quite reasonable to require that APIs be documented and available, and I don't think this should be restricted to convicted monopolists, I think it should apply to all software.
The problem is that the people I'm talking about don't seem to have the experimental ability to react to something new and remember it.
I've used the line "just play with it, you're not going to break it" for years. The problem is that they don't really want to be using a computer, they realize that they have to use it. They don't want to learn anything about it.
It mainly affects older people, though I've seen it in users as young as 25.
And I'm not saying that a one button mouse is a magical fix for it. I'm just saying that throwing an extra button at one of these users is not making things any easier for them. If Apple ships a one-button mouse as standard, developers are going to start requiring it for some functions of their software - and then these users (and there are more of them than you would expect) are going to be lost.
Besides, wouldn't you rather these users had a good reason to pick the Mac over Windoze? Think of all the zombie computers these people will cause. Security is simply beyond them.
I would say that it can be more productive - if you know how to use a second button. I've been using multi-button mice on Macs for years now. My main machine has a 6 button Logitech mouse.
But the iMac in my kitchen (which I'm using now) has a single button Apple mouse, and it's quite useable.
I think the rumored tactic of shipping a two-button mouse as an option is fine, but I don't ever want to see Apple ship a mouse with more than one button with the computers, for one simple reason. I've spent too much time trying to get computer novices to understand what a second button does, and many never get it. (these are the same people who never quite get the difference between a click and a double-click - when you throw another unlabeled button on the mouse, they lose it.)
And who is to make the decision as to when a user is to be trusted with bandwidth? You? The government? The ISP?
I'm afraid that anybody given the power to make such decisions is going to start making them on the basis of content, and I don't think a free society should go there.
And don't forget to require people to register all typewriters and printers, it wouldn't be a great idea to let people print anything without some control in place.
We've got to limit that junk mail after all./sarcasm
It's no different. You're asking for a police state, just so you don't have to spend so much time cleaning out your inbox.
That's certainly not true. The PowerMac G3 was faster that any pentium when it came out, and it was designed before Steve returned. QuickTime had nothing to do with Steve. FireWire was designed while Steve was gone.
Apple has always been innovative, Macs have had built-in networking capability since 1984, and supported built-in peer-to-peer file sharing since 1990 with System 7.
Windows didn't even really have a useable UI until 1995, and it wasn't great even then. It's still not as useable as a Mac, even with XP, and at ANY point in Apple's history, the security situation was always better on a Mac.
AutoLink is not something that Google is forcing on users. It's in their toolbar, which is not installed by default, and in fact only works on IE/windoze. The feature can be enabled/disabled by the user.
As far as I can tell from the documentation (I don't use IE) it only adds links to text that is not already linked.
I'm sorry, but the "artistes" need to get their panties out of a wad about this one. It's the user's right to display web content any way they please, and if they want to use the Google toolbar to add some links, they have that right, too.
But it's not innovative. It's the digital equivalent of "put it on my tab" which is a centuries old business method used by proprietors who had a preexisting credit relationship with their customers.
It's obvious that it should translate to computer purchases, and shouldn't be patentable.
How did that get modded insightful? It's offtopic, and you know it.
And I never said that there is no validity to confidential information, only that free speech rights trump confidential information that has been discovered, whether it be Jennifer Anniston's bed partners or Apple's next computer.
It can be looked at as a good thing, or a necessary evil for a free society - but if we lose free speech and free press rights on this one, what's next?
Do you want your "journalism" to just be a regurgitated press release?
So, revealing something that will actually impact people's lives is bad, but publishing mindless fluff is good? I'm sorry, but you've got a really warped sense of reality.
Not that I've got anything against publishing mindless fluff, but I just can't believe people think that it's less newsworthy to report things that actually have some sort of an impact.
In fact, thinking about it, I find that attitude offensive.
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And if it were just in conversation with someone, there wouldn't be a quote or recording.
The anecdotal evidence is pretty strong on that quote and its attribution - and while it's possible he didn't say it, unless you can prove he didn't say it, he's as logical a choice for the attribution of it as anyone.
And obviously SOMEBODY said it.
So for now, we might as well pin it on Gates.
Do you have NO CONCEPT of a sense of humor at all?
I service and sell Macs for a living, and I thought it was funny.
And we should be. Most of what the ACLU does should never need to be taken to court.
It's truly sad that we need an organization like the ACLU to protect our rights.
I'm sorry, if you can't tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, it's not because there isn't one, it's because your taste buds aren't able to detect it. There IS a difference, and many people are able to taste it. Most of those who can taste it have a preference for one or the other. It's not as much of a difference as between Coke and root beer, but for someone who can taste it, it's a taste shock when they order Coke and are served Pepsi without a warning.
As for the Mac OS, it is distinctly different from windows, and depending on your perspective, it can be either very similar to Linux, or worlds apart. It's not about brand loyalty for some of us - I prefer the Linux/GPL philosophy, but for a desktop platform Mac OS really is the best thing going right now.
This country isn't built on blind obidence. Or shutting up. Or ignoring the details.
I see what you're saying, but a lot of people don't realize that this country WAS built by people whose common ground was saying "You're doing it wrong" and who worked out the details later.
And in this case, the "patriot" act is an act of treason. I don't care how thought out the details are, they're pushing this country and the world in the wrong direction.
The stupid traitors here are the congresscritters who are pushing this, and the ones who are allowing it to happen.
And as for details, I'd far rather risk my life by letting a few terrorists go free than have everything this nation is supposed to stand for destroyed in the name of "security". We don't need the "patriot" act. We never did.
I just looked it up for Tennessee - we do have such a law, or did when I started driving.
"Slow moving vehicles including passenger vehicles behind which five or more vehicles are formed in a line, shall turn or pull off the roadway if sufficent areas exists to do so safely. Slow moving vehicles are defined as a vehicle which is proceeding at a rate of speed which is ten miles per hour or more below the lawful maximum speed." - Tennesse Drivers Handbook, 1986
If you're not 100% sure that you'll register zero, most attorneys will tell you that you should refuse any tests. They can almost always take care of the "implied consent" so you keep your license.
It's much easier to fight a DUI charge if they have no evidence against you, and any blood alcohol will be used against you. As you said, blowing 0.01 can still get you convicted.
The important thing to remember any time you're stopped by the police is that at that moment that officer is not your friend, he's a thug with a gun who wants to cost you a lot of money and/or lock you up to make himself feel better about his genital inadequacy, and he'll use anything you say or do against you. Say as little as possible, and refuse any tests. Let the lawyer sort it out if it comes to that.
Woz wasn't on the Mac team, but he didn't leave Apple until 1985, so he WAS still part of the company.
But styrofoam didn't exist in the early '40s. It wasn't introduced in the US until 1954, from what I just read.
And considering what kind of mess the Manhattan Project left in Oak Ridge, I think environmentally dangerous pesticides weren't much of a concern, and were the least of anyone's worries anyway.
It's actually Oak Ridge, not Oakridge. It's frequently pronounced as one word, but it should be written as two.
Actually, in some places, it is illegal to leave your keys in an unattended vehicle.
Stand corrected? The register article says it was first. Anyway, here's another reference on it.
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that's their 2003 review, where they state:
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Amazon.com Product Description
Early Adopters Pick: February 2003. The world's first laptop computer with a full 17-inch display and widescreen dimensions.
With the stunning PowerBook 17-inch G4, Apple merges incredible power, a 17-inch widescreen display (the largest display of any notebook and the same screen dimensions as a 19-inch CRT monitor), and an impressive array of conveniences into a state-of-the-art aluminum alloy enclosure. A true desktop replacement in every sense except in its remarkably space-efficient, 6.8-pound, 15.4-by-10.2-by-1-inch stature, the PowerBook 17-inch G4 is ready for anyone who appreciates and can afford the cutting edge of mobile computing technology.
Well, my opinion is that if you want to write code and use it yourself, you shouldn't be forced to release anything.
But if you want to sell it, it's quite reasonable to require that APIs be documented and available, and I don't think this should be restricted to convicted monopolists, I think it should apply to all software.
The problem is that the people I'm talking about don't seem to have the experimental ability to react to something new and remember it.
I've used the line "just play with it, you're not going to break it" for years. The problem is that they don't really want to be using a computer, they realize that they have to use it. They don't want to learn anything about it.
It mainly affects older people, though I've seen it in users as young as 25.
And I'm not saying that a one button mouse is a magical fix for it. I'm just saying that throwing an extra button at one of these users is not making things any easier for them. If Apple ships a one-button mouse as standard, developers are going to start requiring it for some functions of their software - and then these users (and there are more of them than you would expect) are going to be lost.
Besides, wouldn't you rather these users had a good reason to pick the Mac over Windoze? Think of all the zombie computers these people will cause. Security is simply beyond them.
Well, that might actually be a preferable alternative. If people will stop buying DRM garbage, maybe the record labels will get it.
I would say that it can be more productive - if you know how to use a second button. I've been using multi-button mice on Macs for years now. My main machine has a 6 button Logitech mouse.
But the iMac in my kitchen (which I'm using now) has a single button Apple mouse, and it's quite useable.
I think the rumored tactic of shipping a two-button mouse as an option is fine, but I don't ever want to see Apple ship a mouse with more than one button with the computers, for one simple reason. I've spent too much time trying to get computer novices to understand what a second button does, and many never get it. (these are the same people who never quite get the difference between a click and a double-click - when you throw another unlabeled button on the mouse, they lose it.)
Hmmm... considering how well the wood held up, I think maybe we should study using wood for new water lines.
And who is to make the decision as to when a user is to be trusted with bandwidth? You? The government? The ISP?
I'm afraid that anybody given the power to make such decisions is going to start making them on the basis of content, and I don't think a free society should go there.
And don't forget to require people to register all typewriters and printers, it wouldn't be a great idea to let people print anything without some control in place.
/sarcasm
We've got to limit that junk mail after all.
It's no different. You're asking for a police state, just so you don't have to spend so much time cleaning out your inbox.
That's certainly not true. The PowerMac G3 was faster that any pentium when it came out, and it was designed before Steve returned. QuickTime had nothing to do with Steve. FireWire was designed while Steve was gone.
Apple has always been innovative, Macs have had built-in networking capability since 1984, and supported built-in peer-to-peer file sharing since 1990 with System 7.
Windows didn't even really have a useable UI until 1995, and it wasn't great even then. It's still not as useable as a Mac, even with XP, and at ANY point in Apple's history, the security situation was always better on a Mac.
AutoLink is not something that Google is forcing on users. It's in their toolbar, which is not installed by default, and in fact only works on IE/windoze. The feature can be enabled/disabled by the user.
As far as I can tell from the documentation (I don't use IE) it only adds links to text that is not already linked.
I'm sorry, but the "artistes" need to get their panties out of a wad about this one. It's the user's right to display web content any way they please, and if they want to use the Google toolbar to add some links, they have that right, too.
I think he was referring to non-consentual messing with...
And I agree with his sentiment, I'm sure my GF wouldn't hesitate to use her 38 special if it was necessary.
But it's not innovative. It's the digital equivalent of "put it on my tab" which is a centuries old business method used by proprietors who had a preexisting credit relationship with their customers.
It's obvious that it should translate to computer purchases, and shouldn't be patentable.
How did that get modded insightful? It's offtopic, and you know it.
And I never said that there is no validity to confidential information, only that free speech rights trump confidential information that has been discovered, whether it be Jennifer Anniston's bed partners or Apple's next computer.
It can be looked at as a good thing, or a necessary evil for a free society - but if we lose free speech and free press rights on this one, what's next?
Do you want your "journalism" to just be a regurgitated press release?
So, revealing something that will actually impact people's lives is bad, but publishing mindless fluff is good? I'm sorry, but you've got a really warped sense of reality.
Not that I've got anything against publishing mindless fluff, but I just can't believe people think that it's less newsworthy to report things that actually have some sort of an impact.
In fact, thinking about it, I find that attitude offensive.