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Scientists Solve Riddle of Unpopped Popcorn

Kozar_The_Malignant writes "CNN is reporting that scientists have solved the problem of unpopped popcorn kernels left in a bag or bowl. The short answer is that unpopped kernels have leaky hulls (seed coats) that prevent the buildup of sufficient pressure to cause the pop. The research has been published online and will appear in the July 11 edition of the journal BioMacromolecules. From the article: 'In the varieties popped, the percentage of unpopped kernels ranged from 4 percent in premium brands to 47 percent in the cheaper ones.' So buying the good stuff for home use is probably worth it."

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  1. Not quite by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    'In the varieties popped, the percentage of unpopped kernels ranged from 4 percent in premium brands to 47 percent in the cheaper ones.' So buying the good stuff for home use is probably worth it."

    Not necessarily true. The quality of kernels is of minor concern, major concern is time to market and freshness. Keep your unpopped corn in a sealed container to maintain humidity level and keep it fron drying out. Microwave popcorns aren't all going to be equal, either, as the oil/salt compositions will vary which affect the hulls of kernels. I've found microwave popcorn has a very short shelflife compared to plain kernel corn. Freshly opened popcorn has fewer 'widows and orphans' than older corn, especially corn which has been left exposed to air.

    Like all things, popcorn engineered to look better or pop better in a microwave isn't necessarily your best tasting corn, either. I only buy microwave corn when I feel I need some for within the next few days and usually not just for myself. If eating popcorn at home I'm more likely to air pop some good stuff and put on real butter and use actual popcorn salt (not that table salt which is appearing in cheaper theaters everywhere.)

    I don't have a paper on this anywhere, but I have had considerable experience popping corn, particularly in college where it helped absorb lots of beer. Naturally popcorn which comes in jars is going to fare better than that in plastic bags, but how old the kernels are is the most decisive factor and a higher end popcorn distributor is more likely to have better packaging. A more porous hull is likely to dry out faster or be weakened by contact with hydrogenated oils in any case. Your 4% to 47% is most likely attributable to quality of packaging, how long the product took to get to market and how long it stayed on the shelf (including shelf time at home.) Granted, better advertised brands are more likely to move through distribution and stores than generic brands, which may give it some edge.

    What's more near and dear to my heart, when I shell several zorkmids at the bijou for my greasy paper bag is what the fsck they're putting on the corn. Most of those butter replacements are horrible and concession stands should be required to post a warning that their 'Butter' isn't butter at all but a blended gookum of vegetable oils. There's only one theater left in my area which still uses genuine butter.

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    1. Re:Not quite by Penguinshit · · Score: 4, Funny


      We too have an independent theater that still uses real butter. Better yet, they have a ready supply of brewer's yeast which makes the popcorn "go to eleven".

    2. Re:Not quite by tylernt · · Score: 5, Informative

      "actual popcorn salt"

      I had to Google it, but apparently an extra-fine grained salt is used on popcorn, potato chips, and french fries.

      Just in case anyone else wondered.

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    3. Re:Not quite by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "actual popcorn salt" I had to Google it, but apparently an extra-fine grained salt is used on popcorn, potato chips, and french fries.

      You can find it in many grocery stores, yet. Though in a pinch those fine iodized salt packets at fast food places will do as well.

      I know Morton and Reese's (no relation to the pb cups) are purveyors.

      You know these things when you are king of popcorn

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    4. Re:Not quite by Jorkapp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I used to have an independent theater that went the whole nine yards with popcorn. To start, its air-popped in high-quality olive oil, and placed evenly on a tray so that butter, salt, and flavor additive salts can be placed evenly.

      To top if off, the admission price was cheap, and compensates for this somewhat more expensive popcorn. Admission was about $4, and a large popcorn about $7. Beat famous players $10 admission + sizeof(your.paycheck) refreshments anyday.

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    5. Re:Not quite by anagama · · Score: 4, Interesting

      • Like all things, popcorn engineered to look better or pop better in a microwave isn't necessarily your best tasting corn, either. ... If eating popcorn at home I'm more likely to air pop some good stuff ...

      I refuse to even own a microwave. When it comes to popcorn, I can make perfect popcorn on the stovetop in a pan in 4-5 minutes. That's from cold stove to a bowl of piping hot fluffy popped corn. Personally, I like it better cooked in a little oil than from an air popper. I skip the butter but use plenty of sea salt.

      Anyway, microwave corn is a scam. You get very little, it leaves a pasty film on the roof of your mouth, and when I've made it at the office, I find I still have to stand around and watch else it tends to burn. So making it on the stove results in a better product, takes only slightly longer, and shaking the pan while it cooks is much more fun than tapping my toe waiting for the microwaveable junk to be done.
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    6. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      To start, its air-popped in high-quality olive oil,

      Go look up what "air-popped" means and then sit in a corner and think about what you've done.

    7. Re:Not quite by vanyel · · Score: 1

      There's a theater in Portland that has that, and all I can say is Ewwwww! I'll take butter w/popcorn salt thankyouverymuch...

      At work, I get Orville Redenbacher Movie Theater Butter Light to microwave and it's pretty good.

      In my home theater, I got a real popcorn machine, though confess I mostly got pre-packaged popcorn/oil thingies for it. I need to experiment and find the Definitive Recipe for it...

    8. Re:Not quite by GermanShorthair · · Score: 1

      Are you referring to "Nutritional" yeast?Brewers is a rather grainy, Nutritional is the flakey stuff you put on food.

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    9. Re:Not quite by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      well, as long as it's not "infection" yeast, I'm happy to sprinkle it all over my popcorn...!

    10. Re:Not quite by vadim_t · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is what I love about the Internet

      You can find about anything online, included experts in popcorn. I'm bookmarking this under my "Interesting esoteric knowledge" folder.

    11. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

    12. Re:Not quite by Wolfkin · · Score: 1

      (not that table salt which is appearing in cheaper theaters everywhere.)

      I wish! Around here (Columbus, GA), you can't find theaters that use actual salt AT ALL. Instead, they have many, many varieties of flavors. No actual regular salty salt, though. I have to carry my own into the theater.

      As for whether it's sea salt, table salt, or something else, it hardly matters in comparison to the horrid "salt" they do provide, which is everything from some weirdly flavored "popcorn salt" to a variety of colored "salts" that have non-popcorny flavors.

      When I get popcorn, I want it to taste like popcorn, butter, and salt. Not garlic, cinnamon, cloves, or whatever.

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    13. Re:Not quite by itwerx · · Score: 1

      ...maintain humidity level and keep it fron drying out
      ...oil/salt compositions will vary which affect the hulls of kernels
      ...especially corn which has been left exposed to air
      ...more porous hull is likely to dry out faster or be weakened by contact with hydrogenated oils


      This looks like a screed from the Department of Redundancy Department!
      (/Me RTFA again)
      Oh yeah, here we go (straight from the text above, boys and girls!):
      "The short answer is that unpopped kernels have leaky hulls (seed coats) that prevent the buildup of sufficient pressure to cause the pop."

      In other news stomping on the kernels, subjecting them to an acid wash and grinding them with a mortar and pestle were also found to affect the poppability.
      However, just to keep ranting, let me add that this is not news at all. I remember asking this question when I was a little kid (yes, that was several decades ago) and getting the same answer.

    14. Re:Not quite by nosaj72 · · Score: 1

      "If you put butter and salt on it, it tastes like salty butter!" - Terry Prachett, Moving Pictures.

    15. Re:Not quite by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Our standard joke pertaining to movie theatre serving sizes is: "Kids in Africa are crying". Here I am sitting with 2 Litres of Coke, and a Gallon of Popcorn, and there's people that can't afford to eat.

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    16. Re:Not quite by operagost · · Score: 1

      Try using a decent brand like Orville Redenbacher's or Pop Secret, and actually noting the time it takes to pop each brand. That way, you can just punch in the exact time and it won't burn. Of course, if the microwave has a vapor sensor it's automatic and much easier.

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    17. Re:Not quite by rob_squared · · Score: 0

      I think it's amazing anyone cares at all. This is like having an accredited clown college.

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    18. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You refuse to even own a microwave oven? What is that about? I could understand if you don't own one simply because you don't find a use for it, but you actually refuse to own one. As in, if I offered you a free microwave oven, you'd refuse.

      Is this like those cultural "elitists" on here that point out at every opportunity that they don't even own a television? You didn't really even say why you refuse to own one, besides the popcorn thing.

      And, no, I don't work for a company that makes microwave ovens. I work for Chewleys bubble gum.

    19. Re:Not quite by Moofie · · Score: 1

      "I refuse to even own a microwave"

      I refuse to even own a screwdriver. Luddites of the world unite!

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    20. Re:Not quite by 123abc987 · · Score: 1

      The quality of kernels is of minor concern, major concern is time to market and freshness.

      Doesn't the time to market and freshness influence the quality of the kernels?
    21. Re:Not quite by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

      Of all the things to be morally opposed to...

    22. Re:Not quite by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      Enjoy the hydrogenated fats clogging your arteries from your quick fix of popcorn. Microwave popcorn is loaded with the stuff. Be sure to let Orville know when their manufacturing procedures leave you terminally ill.

      How is this news, anyway? I've known this for years. It's also been on several cooking shows on the Food Network. (Pretty sure Alton Brown covered it a couple of years back.)

      Next up on Slashdot, "Scientists discover that water is wet."

    23. Re:Not quite by rubberbando · · Score: 1

      That fake butter crap is called 'WHIRL'.

      Believe it or not, but the pizza place I used to work at put that junk on their bread sticks and their garlic bread. :P

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    24. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...still no cure for cancer...

    25. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have a paper on this anywhere
      Now you do :)

    26. Re:Not quite by anagama · · Score: 1


      If you gave me a microwave I would donate it to the Goodwill. I refuse to own one because food cooked in a microwave is lousy and believe it or not, I prefer my leftovers cold.

      Oh, and it's true, I don't watch television. Free since about '92. And proud.

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    27. Re:Not quite by anagama · · Score: 1


      You know the government uses bugs planted in microwaves to spy on us right? Why do you think they invented microwave antennas??

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    28. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I have had considerable experience popping corn, particularly in college where it helped absorb lots of beer."

      I assume you first soaked the popcorn in beer, and then ate it to make your beer intake rate more efficient. Food and beer all on one step!

    29. Re:Not quite by falzer · · Score: 1

      Your ancestors must have refused to use fire to cook their meat. "No use flane! Ogg not even own fire pit."

    30. Re:Not quite by CodeBuster · · Score: 2, Funny

      They must be using that partially hydrogenated butter-food instead because nine out of ten trailer park dwellers cannot believe that it is not butter.

    31. Re:Not quite by tokabola · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm with you. Both about microwaves and popcorn.

      I've worked in the restaurant business for a combined total of about 12 years. Everything from Dishwasher to General Manager, with cooking, waiting, and bar tending in between. I used to wait tables at the local Olive Garden. The one thing I truly liked about that place was the fact they didn't even have a microwave. Everything we served was really cooked with real heat

      As for the popcorn, microwave is the lowest form of popcorn. Air-popped isn't all that great either. I personally prefer a mixture of peanut oil and clarified butter and sea salt ground really fine with a mortar and pestil

      Most of those "prepackaged" corn and oil things are alright. The oil is pretty much the same stuff we use at my business partner's theatres (he owns five single-screen theatres in Northern WI), and makes better popcorn than straight vegetable oil.

      Preheat your heavy pot (no light, thin walled or tefloned stuff, to about 250 to 350 with the oil in it. Add the seeds and swirl to coat all the seeds. This is also a good time to add some salt. Heat the pan to about 460 and use a loose fitting flat lid that lets the steam out. Do not shake up and down, but when the popping starts to slow give it a swirl and some gentle side-to-side shakes, maybe one very light tossing shake. When the popping really starts to slow remove from heat (the heavier the pot, the sooner you should remove heat) Pour into a serving bowl as soon as the popping is basically stopped so you don't burn or over dry the popcorn.

      That's the home version of what good popcorn machines do. My business partner owns several vintage popcorn machines and we sell almost as much popcorn for take out as we do in house at the theatres.

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    32. Re:Not quite by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Well done mate, you must be the first, and only, popcorn obsessive in the world!

      On a related note, why do they serve popcorn at cinemas? And why do people always complain about the prices? If it's that expensive (which it is) then don't buy it. Can people really not go for two hours without eating something? No wonder everyone's so fat these days!

    33. Re:Not quite by drsquare · · Score: 4, Funny

      Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Own A Microwave

      CHAPEL HILL, NCArea resident Anagama does not own a microwave, a fact he repeatedly points out to friends, family, and coworkers as well as to his mailman, neighborhood convenience-store clerks, and the man who cleans the hallways in his apartment building.

      "I, personally, would rather spend my time cooking something decent than using a microwave," Anagama told a random woman Monday at the Suds 'N' Duds Laundromat, noticing the establishment's microwave. "I don't even own one."

      According to Melinda Elkins, a coworker of Anagama's at The Frame Job, a Chapel Hill picture-frame shop, Anagama steers the conversation toward microwaves whenever possible, just so he can mention not owning one.

      "A few days ago, [store manager] Annette [Haig] was saying she had a bad headache," Elkins said. "The second she said that, I knew Anagama would pounce. He was like, 'Oh that's a shame. I'm guessing it's because of your microwave sending out dangerous radiation into your skull every day. I don't have that problem with microwaves. In fact, I don't even own one."

      According to Elkins, "idiot oven" is Anagama's favorite derogatory term for microwave.

      Tony Gerela, who lives in the apartment directly below Anagama's and occasionally chats with the 37-year-old by the mailboxes, is well aware of his neighbor's disdain for microwaves.

      "About a week after I met him, we were talking, and I made some kind of microwave reference," Gerela said. "He asked me what I was talking about, and when I told him, he just went off saying the last time he used a microwave, it was some microwave lasagna, and it gave him diahorrea."

      Added Gerela: "Once, I made the mistake of saying I nuked something for dinner, and he started in with, 'Nuked the dinner? I don't know about you, but I 'cook' dinner. In a pan."

      Anagama has lived without microwaves since 1989, when his then-girlfriend moved out and took her oven with her.

      "When Claudia went, the microwave went with her," Anagama said. "But instead of just going out and buying another one which I certainly could have afforded, that wasn't the issue, I decided to stand up to the microwave teat."

      "I'm not an elitist," Anagama said. "It's just that I'd much rather cook some risotto or grill some salmon than sit there passively staring at some 'ready-meal' going round and round.

      Continued Anagama: "I can't begin to tell you how happy I am not to own a microwave."

    34. Re:Not quite by TeatimeofSoul · · Score: 1

      and shaking the pan while it cooks

      Why do people do that anyway? What sort of perturbation is caused by shaking the pan, but not by the kernels as they pop?

    35. Re:Not quite by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Just use machine salt. Is very fine and 100% pure.

    36. Re:Not quite by Vexar · · Score: 1

      I'll bite. Why do you put yeast on popcorn? Is it just a seasoning, like Parmesan cheese?

    37. Re:Not quite by Vexar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm afraid the anonymous poster has a point: air popping is where you put the kernels in something where the heat comes from air, not heated oil. I've never found a single theater that air-pops. Most use the oil-filled pan with the split lid. It makes for more aroma, and is a better-suited mechanism for making in volume. Someone tell me why anyone other than a foods conglomerate (Kraft, Conagra, etc.) would be sponsoring popcorn research.

    38. Re:Not quite by trovaxo · · Score: 1

      When I find many unpopped kernals, it's usually evidence of dryness. Try a teaspoon of water for a cup of unpopped corn. Put it in a tight container and shake untill no wetness is visible on the corn. Wait a few days for the water to get more uniformly distributed within the kernals. --Then try popping it -- much fewer unpopped kernals! My main difficuly has been finding varieties that taste very good.

    39. Re:Not quite by mark_osmd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      answer: what do these people expect, they're living in a desert?

    40. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite business partners, you mean. If he owns everything, he's your employer. Yes, no matter what he tells you. In fact, I sense you may not even be Assistant Manager, but rather Assistent to the Manager.

    41. Re:Not quite by It'sYerMam · · Score: 2, Informative

      Go look at a climate map of the world and found out where the Sahara is. Then go look at where Ethiopia is. A few miles to the east, I believe.
      Besides that, some Saharan countries are having famines while others aren't. It's more to do with economics and chance weather than geographical location.

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    42. Re:Not quite by GermanShorthair · · Score: 1

      Yep, kind of a different flavor. Packed with that B vitamin that turns your urine day-glo. You can put it anything really. Some is subtle. Others are stronger with an almost soy protein powder smell and taste.

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    43. Re:Not quite by anagama · · Score: 1

      Hey dork - I shower at least 4 times per week.

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    44. Re:Not quite by anagama · · Score: 1


      It's all wrong -- but that's damn funny!

      Now, off to light a fire in my y2k surplus wood fired kitchen stove ...

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    45. Re:Not quite by hplasm · · Score: 0

      the uncooked kernels make their way down to the heat- otherwise they stay randomly distributed and the popped corn at the bottom burns.

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    46. Re:Not quite by jyx · · Score: 1
      Im all for cooking vs reheating but..
      "Everything we served was really cooked with real heat"

      Ah yes, good ol real heat, much better than that artificial heat those cheaper restaurants use... :)
    47. Re:Not quite by TeatimeofSoul · · Score: 1

      I suggest an experiment: pop some popcorn without putting a lid on the pan. Do the kernels just lie at the bottom as they pop?

    48. Re:Not quite by hplasm · · Score: 0

      In an unshaken lidded pan, the popped corn traps some of the unpopped away from the heat. Shaking the pan lets them fall, particularly when the pan is quite full of popcorn. The lidless experiment is different, as the popped corn has somewhere else to go. I suggest an experiment: just try it; shaken and not, and see how the unpopped and burned kernels differ in number.

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    49. Re:Not quite by TeatimeofSoul · · Score: 1

      Let me just say first: I'm not trying to be a PITA here. I'm just curious, because most people I know shake the pan, even though it's completely obvious (or so it seems to me), that the popping kernels cause such an uproar in the pan, that shaking it cannot possibly make the slightest bit of difference.

      Indeed, I never shake the pan, and there's never more than a few unpopped kernels. And my pans have glass lids, so I can cleary see the turmoil going on.

      In my experience, the key to succesful popping is heat. I wonder if shaking the pan might not, therefore, worsen the results, espescially if you're picking it up.

    50. Re:Not quite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're pretty gay. There are more pressing issues in the world that don't involve unpopped popcorn. Let me guess, you don't get laid much do you?
      I'm sorry, that was ignorant. But seriously, come on! What the hell? Wait, I'm sorry again. I understand your problem, as I too have burned good popcorn trying to pop those stupid little bastards. Good Luck, and God Bless,

      Jake Lee, Connellsville, PA 15425
      Stay strong, and keep on truckin' MoFo!

    51. Re:Not quite by hplasm · · Score: 0

      Perhaps I am using a pan which is too small...hmm.

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  2. Back to basics by TurboStar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I pop my corn the old fashioned way. Heat, oil, and stirring. I've never seen anything worse than 5% old maids. In fact, the cheap popcorn often works best for this method of popcorn (harder shells, bigger pops). If you're really serious about yield throw out your microwave and go back to the basics. It's cheaper, tastes better, you have more control over the additives, it never burns like a microwave, and the yield is superior to microwaves.

    1. Re:Back to basics by Shatrat · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I wanted to cook, would I be eating popcorn?

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    2. Re:Back to basics by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      If you're really serious about yield throw out your microwave and go back to the basics. It's cheaper, tastes better, you have more control over the additives, it never burns like a microwave, and the yield is superior to microwaves.

      Indeed. Microwave popcorn is purely convenience, as long as a microwave is nearby. Not very useful when camping. Some of those microwave corns smell pretty awful and taste like so many melted Crayolas. If forced to buy it, I always opt for the lowest oil, non-flavored sort. i.e. Paul Newman's light.

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    3. Re:Back to basics by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
      If I wanted to cook, would I be eating popcorn?

      Makes great packing material, as long is it's air popped!

      This was one of the original uses for popcorn, before styrofoam peanuts. My father, who worked at Oakridge on the Manhattan Project told me how they'd receive delicate instruments, packed in boxes of the stuff.

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    4. Re:Back to basics by pnatural · · Score: 1

      pnatural's recipie for incredible popcorn:

      1. locate a bowl suitable for catching popcorn popped by an air popper *and* a microwaveable cover for it. i'm lucky enough to have a glass pie plate fit my favorite popcorn bowl, but a dinner plate that fits may work in a pinch.

      2. pop the corn in the air popper. while it's getting going, melt a tablespoon or two of butter in the cover.

      3. when the corn is all popped, sprinkle a bit fine grated cheese on it, then salt and pepper or other seasoning, then shake the bowl a little bit to settle the mix into the middle of the corn. repeat once. my favorite mix is mrs. dash and just a bit johnny salt.

      4. place the butter-filled cover over the bowl and shake in a circular motion (back to front and up and down). just up and down won't work -- what you're after is getting the corn in a circular motion -- otherwise you coat just the top layer of corn.

      the butter is key -- without it the cheese and season will just fall to the bottom of the bowl. of course you can adjust to taste -- it ain't rocket science.

      enjoy!

    5. Re:Back to basics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never seen anything worse than 5% old maids.

      I call bullshit. I think you are fudging those 5.5% or even 6.0% results.

    6. Re:Back to basics by Mr2001 · · Score: 1

      Too much work. I use a Presto PowerPop, which is a plastic bowl with microwave concentrators in the base and in little disposable cups that go inside the bowl. Add popcorn kernels and oil, place in microwave, enjoy. Very few unpopped kernels. The only downside is you have to replace the cups.. they come in packs of 8 for $2, and each cup is good for about 3-5 uses.

      Of course, I get full control over the additives this way. Canola oil, butter, and table salt are all I use, but I've thought about trying powdered white cheddar.

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    7. Re:Back to basics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love how the food industry invents problems, and then sells the solution. Popping with oil in a pan is incredibly easy, but somehow they convince people to shell out money for air poppers. I guess if you don't use butter you could argue that the air poppers are healthier, but how many people actually forego the butter? There's a huge list of these completely useless kitchen appliances: bread machines and electric can openers top the list. Actually, electric can openers are in a league of their own, as they almost never work as quickly or easily as there hand powered alternatives.

    8. Re:Back to basics by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      If I wanted to cook, would I be eating popcorn?

      Before the microwave there was much in the way of technology for poping popcorn. Sure you could use any old pot/pan, and end up with a ruined pan. Jiffypop was a godsend to many who enjoyed popcorn but didn't want to ruin a pan. But even jiffypop required much in the way of manual labor. Dedicated oil and air poppers were a major leap and made making large amounts of popcorn a brease.

      But before all these inventions, people still ate popcorn. It was among more more difficult things to cook.

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    9. Re:Back to basics by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Plus, nothing beats the satisfaction of all those muffled pop! ping! sounds you get when you use a metal pan with a lid. We use stainless steel Revere Ware; I have to admit it's been a long time since we've popped any. The sound and smell brings back fond memories of childhood, unlike the smell of cheap, overly buttered uWave office corn; which just makes me want to vomit.

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    10. Re:Back to basics by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      It's actually Oak Ridge, not Oakridge. It's frequently pronounced as one word, but it should be written as two.

    11. Re:Back to basics by GermanShorthair · · Score: 1

      1. pop yer popcorn, about 1 cup. I've discovered that air-popped is quick and clean but it isn't as good as oil-popped. Air popped is gummy, oil-popped is crunchy. 2. Melt your custom amount of butter and pour it on liberally. I use a stick, if its one batch or two. 3. Salt to taste. 4. Add Kraft parmeson or any more expensive grated cheese. 5. Disburse approx. 1/2 cup of chile powder mixed in a 1:3 ratio of standard "california" or "new mexico" red chile and genuine cayenne pepper powder. 6. Wake up, feel the burn.

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    12. Re:Back to basics by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Microwave popcorn is purely convenience,

      Popcorn full-stop is purely convenience. It's convenient at cinemas because it's already made. It's convenient at home because you just microwave it. There's nothing else to it. If you're going to be inconvenienced and cook something, you may as well make something with flavour or nutritional value. As far as food goes, popcorn is pretty bland.

    13. Re:Back to basics by orionware · · Score: 1

      Yea. The album cover says "Oak Ridge Boys" not "Oakridge Boys" You are correct.

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    14. Re:Back to basics by ecloud · · Score: 1

      I've also tried a lot of methods. My mom used to make it in a Club aluminum pan, and it does not ruin the pan. They are very thick (about 3/16" maybe) and last forever. I have those pans now, and have made popcorn that way too.

      Then I got an air popper at a yard sale. When I was a kid we had one that didn't work well (which is why mom went back to the pan method), but the key is to find one that really blows. If it doesn't blow enough air the kernels just sit in there and burn. The one I have now is a Wearever Popcorn Pumper and it blows adequately. I only use it to cut the calories, and agree that pan-popped corn is better.

      But, I don't like it without any oil at all, because how do you make the salt stick then? I read the ingredients on a can of Pam and was pleasantly surprised that it contains only vegetable oil and alcohol. So, I have begun spraying the popcorn occasionally as it comes out of the air popper. I wait for one good layer in the bottom of the bowl, then spray it thoroughly; then wait until it's all done and spray again on the top, and then sprinkle the salt. The alcohol evaporates quickly of course and the oil is much more evenly distributed than if you just dump butter on it. There is so little that you don't taste it much; it's just enough to hold a little salt. Popcorn salt is essential; if it's too coarse it will definitely fall off.

      So I'm surprised theater poppers don't have a method of atomizing the butter over the popcorn. It would be better if it was real butter, but getting a good fine mist seems like a good idea to me.

      I also like to put onion powder on my popcorn sometimes, along with the salt. But it is also too coarse and doesn't stick as well.

  3. Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. by varmittang · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

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  4. Fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Going to celebrate the study with a huge bowl of popcorn, heaped upon by 10 heart attacks' worth of grease.

  5. awww crap! by ocularDeathRay · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I just wasted all my mod points on that great email database story! I would much rather have them back for this earth shattering news.

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    1. Re:awww crap! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      and I just wasted all my mod points on that great email database story! I would much rather have them back for this earth shattering news.

      Gosh! It is important news! Aside from the live-shot thing, but I'm not much into hunting and very much into munching a huge bag of quality kernels (not Linux kernels!) while watching lightsabres clash and Han Solo shooting first.

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    2. Re:awww crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have mod points, tell me how to mod!

  6. Wow by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those must be some BORED scientists...

    Really... who thinks it's THAT important to find out? And has access to equipment...

    1. Re:Wow by Queer+Boy · · Score: 2, Funny
      Really... who thinks it's THAT important to find out? And has access to equipment...

      Orville Redenbacher

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    2. Re:Wow by cHALiTO · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And to think of all the excellent researchers with *important* issues to research on, who can't do it because of lack of material/money.

      Shameful.

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    3. Re:Wow by KaiSeun · · Score: 0

      Well, someone had asked that question and they decide to give an answer. Besides...

      Hamaker said two popcorn manufacturers have already expressed interest in Purdue's findings.

      At least someone will find this information useful.

    4. Re:Wow by Inzkeeper · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'd rather spend my time popping vars off heaps in kernels compiled in C than popping jars of kernels piled in heaps by the sea.

    5. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article has nothing to do with popcorn. Science involving food is near and dear to humanity's heart. Investing money is expected.

    6. Re:wow by netringer · · Score: 1
      all I can say is that's some expensive [purdue.edu] popcorn
      Orville Redenbacher did his research into 44:1 popping corn at Purdue, too.
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  7. I've always loved popcorn ... by Paul+Lamere · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... my father was a colonel.

    1. Re:I've always loved popcorn ... by BarneyRabble · · Score: 1

      Oh, I just thought you called him Pop.

    2. Re:I've always loved popcorn ... by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      s/father/pop/

  8. How hard could it be? by Neil+Blender · · Score: 1

    I only see three possibilities: no water in the kernal, not enough water in the kernal, or it leaks out during popping. 1 and 2 could be easily tested after popping some. Am I missing something?

    1. Re:How hard could it be? by OAB_X · · Score: 1

      Nope, I remember hearing about this.... 10 years ago or so. Nothing new here.

    2. Re:How hard could it be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/kernal/kernel/g;

    3. Re:How hard could it be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you the Neil Blender? If not, why the username (or is that your name)?

  9. I like crunching on those unpopped kernels by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

    Now I know there are more in the cheaper brands I know which I'll be buying in the future.

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    1. Re:I like crunching on those unpopped kernels by pnatural · · Score: 1

      I like them too, and now I have a few things to try and get more of them.

      I've often thought there's a market for them. If produced in quantity (and consistency), you could bag them up like those corn-nut things.

      Popcorn (food) for thought.

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  10. Just buy twice as much cheap stuff by syousef · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...and ignore the unpopped kernels. Probably be cheaper.

    Real reason to get better quality is it tastes better.

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    1. Re:Just buy twice as much cheap stuff by Surt · · Score: 1

      It's cheaper up until you chip a tooth just once on an unpopped kernel you didn't notice was caught in popped one. Then you typically pay enough in dentistry bills to make up for a lifetime of quality popcorn.

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  11. This better be put to good use by peculiarmethod · · Score: 1

    I, for one, will rant and rave against using money for this research JUST to get all the kernels to pop (by selection methods). I will go on a hunger strike until they decide to offer, as well, half-popped kernels, as they are my favorite and vastly superior imho.

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  12. Importance by MrNonchalant · · Score: 4, Funny

    So I'm guessing we've also solved that cancer thing or that AIDs thing already. Right?

    1. Re:Importance by NonSequor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somehow I don't think that someone referred to as a professor of food chemistry (even if that isn't all they do) is going to cure any diseases.

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    2. Re:Importance by alxc · · Score: 1

      Why else would popcorn popping be brought up.The world's problems have been solved and this is all thats left to worryy about.

    3. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      you know AIDS isn't a plural, right?

    4. Re:Importance by kaosrain · · Score: 1

      As a psychologist this kind of thing really bothers me. Should we not study generalized anxiety disorder because it isn't as harmful as substance addiction?

      Similarly, should we let people free who comit armed robbery because murder is a worse problem?

      Yes, I did just compare popping popcorn kernels to GAD and armed robbery.

    5. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. A lot of common diseases are affected/exacerbated/caused by what we eat.

      Here's a recent list of top 10 causes of death in America:

      heart disease (30.3% of deaths for any age)
      cancer (23.0% of deaths for any age)
      cerebrovascular diseases including stroke (7.0% of deaths for any age)
      chronic lower respiratory diseases (5.2% of deaths for any age)
      accidents (4.1% of deaths for any age)
      diabetes (2.9% of deaths for any age)
      Alzheimer's (1.9% of deaths for any age)
      kidney diseases (1.5% of deaths for any age)
      septicemia (1.3% of deaths for any age)
      Other causes (20.2% of deaths for any age)

      All of these can be affected by things we eat (including accidents).

    6. Re:Importance by PopeRatzinger · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Just to take this a little more seriously than is due it,

      Is there a formal designation for the type of argument which asserts the undesirability of a given course of action on the basis of its consumption of effort/resources from an imagined "total pool of potential expended effort/resources," as it were?

      It seems that there should be one. I encounter it rather often. I'm sure someone's attributed a name to it.

      For example, as an argument against animal rights: "How can you spend all your time worrying about how the animals are doing, when there are children starving to death in Africa and homeless people dying on the street?

      It's very common as a popular attack on perceived productive courses of action or topics of discourse and there's really no substance to the argument beyond the basic notion that any action aside from one which achieves maximum utilitarian gain is morally defective.

    7. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow I don't think that someone referred to as a professor of food chemistry (even if that isn't all they do) is going to cure any diseases.

      Far more likely that they'll cause some new ones, inventing all sorts of artificial foods. Hey, anything in the name of profits, right? Benefits two industries: processed foods, and health care.

    8. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (yah I know I'm way off topic here..:)
      nah, but we seem to have passed a law that equates manslaughter and having a camcorder in a theater (~3 yrs for either, 6 for a second offense of videotaping).

    9. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a formal designation for the type of argument which asserts the undesirability of a given course of action on the basis of its consumption of effort/resources from an imagined "total pool of potential expended effort/resources," as it were?

      Yes: Troll.

      You're welcome.

    10. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because diet can be related to disease doesn't mean this guy can cure AIDS.

    11. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bitching?

    12. Re:Importance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Somehow I don't think that someone referred to as a professor of food chemistry (even if that isn't all they do) is going to cure any diseases."


      It's called, "cannibalism."

    13. Re:Importance by ketamine-bp · · Score: 1

      can somebody tell me how can we eat to have chronic lower respiratory diseases (e.g. COPD, etc.) or how can we have septicemia by eating stuff? I would be glad to see a recipe.

  13. hmm. by thhamm · · Score: 1

    >from the i-can-sleep-tonight dept.
    hope so.

    now, if someone has a solution for the everfresh-beer-problem, i can really have the best sleep in years. entries only accepted if in O(log_2(n)).

  14. Is this really that newsworthy? by frdmfghtr · · Score: 1, Informative

    First it was in the local paper, then on CNN's website, now here. I didn't realize that the mystery behind popcorn was such an issue.

    (Yes, that's sarcasm you are smelling)

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  15. Obviously... by Tanmi-Daiow · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...the reason those kernels didnt pop was that they weren't Linux.

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    1. Re:Obviously... by thhamm · · Score: 1, Funny

      dont POP but IMAP. ugh. :)

    2. Re:Obviously... by japhmi · · Score: 1

      And they would pop even better if they were microkernels.

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    3. Re:Obviously... by NOLAChief · · Score: 1

      Naah, it was their first time. They were under a lot of pressure to perform. So in the heat of the moment the kernels panicked.

  16. Microwave versus Bag popcorn by runenfool · · Score: 1

    While I definitely see a big variety among different microwave popcorn vendors in terms of yield in the microwave - Ive noticed that taking the leftover kernels (what can I say, Im a cheapskate) and then later putting them in the air popper will drastically improve your results. I typically have maybe 5 or 6 KERNELs of popcorn out of 3 or 4 bags total that wont end up popped when going this route.

    And actually it tastes better than your typical styrofoam air popped bag popcorn anyway - it has the grease, salt, and butter already built in. It does make the popper machine a little dirty, but they can be washed.

    Enjoy :)

  17. News?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's odd, I read that exact explanation on wikipedia (why I was looking up popcorn, I do not recall) about 2 weeks ago. Go CNN and their speedy reporters!

  18. wow by Keruo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    all I can say is that's some expensive popcorn

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  19. Stop whining about newsworthiness by Linux_ho · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anything having to do with kernel reliability is always on-topic at Slashdot. /ducks

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  20. Get back to work by tyates · · Score: 1

    Thanks scientists! Now that your break's over, you can get back to working on dark matter, wormholes, and cold fusion.

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  21. SLASHDOT THIS IS LAME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I learned this in middle school. I am currently 30 years old. WTF???

    Moisture inside the seed is heated up until the steam 'explodes' the kernel. Popcorn has to have a min. amount of moisture inside the seed for it to pop. Also, if the seed is cracked then pressure can not build.

    slow news day?

    1. Re:SLASHDOT THIS IS LAME! by thhamm · · Score: 1

      its a joke. just fyi.

    2. Re:SLASHDOT THIS IS LAME! by Coffeehound · · Score: 1

      Sigh. As with much "news" and "science," what appears to be an easy answer is often incomplete if not faulty. (We often take it as truth because it is published.) If you take a bunch of corn and quarter it, thus removing the hull pressure entirely, much if it will still POP. Why? How? Huh! This "discovery" adds nothing new to knowledge. Kind of like many items in journals. It was wrong 30 years ago and it is wrong now. The theory of popping is not yet firm. Perhaps we could call it the High Temperature Uncertainty Principle?

  22. Holes in the hull? by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 5, Funny

    I imagine it would just be a simple task for most slashdotters to patch their kernels...

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    1. Re:Holes in the hull? by 2TecTom · · Score: 1

      ya, but how many can say they've pop em ...

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    2. Re:Holes in the hull? by CityZen · · Score: 1

      > I imagine it would just be a simple task for most slashdotters to patch their kernels...

      We have a winner!

      Best /. laugh I've had in a while!

  23. Next up....cherries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sure would like them scientists to solve the mystery of "unpopped cherries".

    1. Re:Next up....cherries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Undoubtedly related to the mystery of "morning wood"; more specifically, the lack thereof.

    2. Re:Next up....cherries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I sure would like them scientists to solve the mystery of "unpopped cherries".


      Hmmm, scientists would have to solve first the problem of where those "cherries" are...

  24. IgNoble cause by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

    The 2005 awards have been handed out, but this is a candidate for
    the 2006 Ig Nobel Award ;)

    1. Re:IgNoble cause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See here for information on how to nominate them

  25. Tux Popcorn by CypherXero · · Score: 1

    I know there's a Linux joke in this article somewhere...

    1. Re:Tux Popcorn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know there's a Linux joke in this article somewhere...

      It is unsafe to patch your kernel. It might explode. You have been warned: never, ever patch your kernal

    2. Re:Tux Popcorn by BarneyRabble · · Score: 1

      And never fork your popcorn either.... (rim shot, thank you! thank you!)

  26. air popped?!?! you heretic! by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 1

    oil popped is the absolute best way to go.

    buy a stir crazy and you are set for life.

    also, use good olive oil and sea salt.

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    1. Re:air popped?!?! you heretic! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      oil popped is the absolute best way to go. buy a stir crazy and you are set for life. also, use good olive oil and sea salt.

      When in the dorm, you go for volume. We'd fill grocery bags with the stuff.

      greasy brown paper bags, those were the days...

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    2. Re:air popped?!?! you heretic! by dildatron · · Score: 2, Informative

      While the Stir Crazy is a cool idea, I found it too hard to clean. My favorite is the Whirley Pop. It usually pops every kernel, because you can set the burner heat on high and really cook it fast. Plus it is basically just an aluminum pot so you can just wipe it clean.

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    3. Re:air popped?!?! you heretic! by anagama · · Score: 2, Informative


      A plain old pan is very easy to wash.

      A 5 or 6 quart heavy bottomed pan works great. Use Med-High heat, make sure there is about a milimeter depth of oil over the entire bottom surface, place two kernals in the pan, put the lid on and then turn on the stove. When you hear 1 or both pop, pour in popcorn so there is one layer of corn on the entire bottom surface of the pan. Then gently shake the pan -- no need to go nuts, move it a tiny bit back and forth about 2 strokes per second and in two more minutes, you'll have a pan full of corn. Towards the end, it helps to lift the pan off the heat source a bit - the heavy bottom pan transfers plenty of heat to pop the last few kernals, but lifting it off the burner a little prevents the risk of burnt corn.

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    4. Re:air popped?!?! you heretic! by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      It's all about Jiffy Pop on the Coleman Stove :)

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    5. Re:air popped?!?! you heretic! by SeventyBang · · Score: 1

      The CNN story is based in Indianapolis (which is where I am - well, technically, Fishers, just over the NE county line) but the research was done at Purdue. Anyway, the university I attended was out in the sticks about 45 miles from here as was a major popcorn facility. Forget making in bulk, let alone making any at all. we used to go there and pick up their huge bags of testing samples from various fields - and we're talking *BIG* bags. I don't think we really made our own at all.

    6. Re:air popped?!?! you heretic! by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 1

      yeh, i've dont the oil-in-pot trick before, but the stir crazy is just as easy to clean, and you dont have the risk of burning the popcorn...

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  27. And how to reuse? by michelcultivo · · Score: 1

    Good guys, and now how we can reuse them? I'm so bored on hitting the head of that idiot guy with old maids.

  28. I didn't realize it was a riddle... by eap · · Score: 1

    If the plant ye wish to flee
    Go to sector seven-G.

    Substitute corn-related terms as appropriate.

  29. One day... by Raynach · · Score: 1
    The Windows kernel will pop...

    But in all seriousness, this research is being done at my school, Purdue.... which really frightens me that research grants are actually being used to do this kind of work.

    The new CS building doesn't get any funding from the university, but Jischke will damn sure find out why all his popcorn kernels won't pop... *sigh*

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  30. PR Campaign? by MAdMaxOr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Someone in the high-end popcorn business had to be pushing this story.

    News for nerds. Stuff that 6 people care about.

    1. Re:PR Campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. This is space filler even for some backwoods news channel. There'd be a 30 second back and forth between the reporters ending with a stupid joke and a strained laugh.

    2. Re:PR Campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, it's just an excuse for lots of joke posts. Same slashdot bullshit, different day.

    3. Re:PR Campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lighten up a little, man! Whoever submitted the story, doesn't matter to me. There was a great thread towards the top where I learned about air poppers. I'm 28 and never knew such a thing existed; to me, popcorn either came from the "popcorn machine" (like they have at the movies or in my case at the office), or from a microwave.

      This thread is as educational as any other. Maybe more so...

  31. I don't use POP, I prefer IMAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Unpopped kernels? I didn't know email even was a loadable module! And besides, I prefer IMAP

    TDz.

  32. Whew! by bob_the_clown · · Score: 1

    And for a minute there, I thought we were going to have a kernel panic.

  33. Thanks... by KipCas · · Score: 1

    Now how about some research on why my feet stick to the floor of the theater?

    Wait, on second thought, I'd rather *not* know.

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  34. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    This news is like three days old. Good thing I read /.

  35. Recycling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or there are other "new" fashioned ways:

    If you have a toaster oven (they are cheaper than microwaves at least!) you can spread out those unpopped kernels on a metal tray and let them have a second go at popping. Almost all of them do pop, even if less enthusiastically. But even the one percent or so that don't, by the time they are an almost plack shade of brown on the outside, they are brittle enough to be merely crunchy.

    If you want to do this "recycling" in a microwave on a bakelite or ceramic plate, then don't forget to also put a cup of water in the microwave as a heat sink to prevent the oven from self-destructing if the kernels don't absorb enough of the energy.

    This is a voice from experience. I don't think we needed scientists to tell us that much.

  36. My new product by nilbog · · Score: 1

    I am going to market a new product: POPCORN KERNEL SEALANT! Basically you just save up your unpopped kernels, and then wash them in this sealant to reapir their "leaky shells." Then just repop as normal! Act now, and receive a free food dehydrator!

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  37. $10,000 reward by FLOOBYDUST · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Professional Organization Of Popcornpoppers has announced a $10,000 reword for the article in the 1954 "Poppers Life" where Orville Redenbacher declares that every tine a kernel pops it doubles in size.

    1. Re:$10,000 reward by FLOOBYDUST · · Score: 1

      try a rewrite

  38. What you don't know about popcorn can kill you... by dtjohnson · · Score: 2, Informative

    The 'butter flavoring' in microwave popcorn has been linked to health problems. Might be a good idea to stick with the air popper or use the old-fashioned oil-in-a-pan-on-the-stove method.


  39. Marc Maron on popcorn by pinder · · Score: 1
    Comedian Marc Maron on popcorn:
    "Popcorn is a good analogy for show business. Every time you make popcorn, there are always those fluffy, white, happy popped pieces that are fun to eat and look at and everybody likes them. But there are also always those burnt, hard kernels at the bottom that don't pop. You know why they don't pop? They don't pop because they have integrity."
    1. Re:Marc Maron on popcorn by SnoopJeDi · · Score: 0

      Funnily enough, they don't pop because they have no integrity.

      Aha, how ironic.

  40. I'm guessing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just got off your shift at the Women's Shelter and are on your way to the Children's Hospital to read stories, but happened to find ten seconds free to chastise these researchers.

    Right?

  41. Taste? by nrlightfoot · · Score: 1

    Now they just need to figure out how to make popcorn taste like something other than cardboard, preferably corn. I am of course talking about pre butter and salt taste.

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  42. leaky kernel eh? by MoFoQ · · Score: 1

    leaky kernel, eh? So are they going to have a kernel patch for that? (linux pun).

    anyways, u can always try and coat it with something to seal it.....

    just think...Slime(r) for popcorn.

  43. hmm something about compiling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the kernel without any memory leaks... hmm

  44. Next Generation Popcorn... by susano_otter · · Score: 1

    ... will come pre-coated with some sort of chemical sealant that guarantees 100% kernel poppage, but causes birth defects that would make the Thalidomide babies look like Cabbage Patch Kids.

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  45. Air Popper = Better popcorn. by Frobnicator · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The quality of kernels is of minor concern, major concern is time to market and freshness. Keep your unpopped corn in a sealed container to maintain humidity level and keep it fron drying out. Microwave popcorns aren't all going to be equal, either, as the oil/salt compositions will vary which affect the hulls of kernels. I've found microwave popcorn has a very short shelflife compared to plain kernel corn. Freshly opened popcorn has fewer 'widows and orphans' than older corn, especially corn which has been left exposed to air.
    I use an air popper. It takes almost exactly the same amount of time as microwave popcorn.

    As mentioned, plain kernel corn lasts quite a while on the shelf, if properly stored. With an air popper, I usually get about 3-4 bad-popped kernels, but even they usually have opened up a little. I use the cheapest brand kernels I can buy.

    The best part is the cost. The microwave popcorn with 6 3.5oz bags in it costs the same as a 4lb bag of plain kernels. Also, I can spend my money on better-tasting butters specially designed for popcorn.

    So with an air popper, I get fewer bad kernels, just over three times the amount of corn, and I can control the salt and butter amounts.

    I don't understand why people use microwaves rather than a cheap air popper.

    frob

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    1. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by MagicMike · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't understand why people use CPUs instead of special-purpose ASICs for everything.

      I only say that because I'm jealous. I grew up in an oil-and-stir popping family and am now reduced to microwave popping due to space and storage concerns.

      Alas.

    2. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't understand why people use microwaves rather than a cheap air popper.

      One word: convenience. Sad as it sounds, time isn't so much the factor as effort is. People willingly pay three times as much to reduce a a six- or seven-step process that requires attention to throwing a bag in a microwave, hitting a few buttons, then chowing down. (After all, three times dirt cheap is, well, still cheap.)

      I'm not advocating microwave popcorn, just trying to explain. I guess it depends on your priorities. Personally, I don't eat popcorn unless it's already handy (e.g. someone had already made it and has some extra), so I have the most convenience of all with one single step: Eat!

    3. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by zakezuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't understand why people use microwaves rather than a cheap air popper.

      Why buy an extra thing if what you have already does the job. Why waste the countertop space? I have to admit those air poppers are cheaper than your typical microwave oven on the new front, but a microwave oven is much more useful. An air popper is pretty much limited to popcorn, or perhaps coffee. It spends more time in storage unless you really really love popcorn.

      The best part is the cost. The microwave popcorn with 6 3.5oz bags in it costs the same as a 4lb bag of plain kernels.

      Actually you can use raw popcorn in the microwave as well. You can either use your own paper bag, buy a specality microwaveable popcorn container, or hell get creative and find your own solution. Popcorn pops very well on it's own without oil in the microwave. A conical shape works very well and tends to leave unpopped kernels in the bottom. If you've cleaned your microwave recently you might even enjoy just putting the popcorn in a bowl and watch it fly around. Now that's something the entire family would gather around and enjoy.

      But for the most part, the average joe doesn't eat popcorn enough to justify the expense, even a cheap sub $20 solution.

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    4. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by fornaxsw · · Score: 1

      People willingly pay three times as much to reduce a a six- or seven-step process that requires attention to throwing a bag in a microwave, hitting a few buttons, then chowing down.

      A few buttons?? My microwave has one button to do it...beat that!

    5. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by SeventyBang · · Score: 1

      air popped corn guarantees you have to put butter, sprinkled oil, or something on it for salt to stick to it. otherwise, you're chewing little pieces of cardboard.

    6. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by drsquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't understand why people use microwaves rather than a cheap air popper.

      I can think of a few reasons.

      1. We're not all popcorn obessives. You know, for most people, it's just another food, not a hobby.
      2. A microwave is already in the kitchen, and can be used other things. It's hard to justify another device for the sole purpose of preparing a single food, especially if you don't eat it very often.
      3. Most people don't have popcorn very often, and so buying a paper bag to put in the microwave is the better alternative to buying a 'popper' and kernels, which would just be taking up room 99% of the time.
      4. A lot of places sell the microwave popcorn, not so many sell normal corns.
      5. Get over yourself. It's just bland salty junk food, you're talking about it as if it were some sophisticated cuisine.

    7. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by mobets · · Score: 1

      Not just one button, but a humidity sensor to deturmine the proper amount of time as well. It is also used for the re-heat button that will get anything with a decent amount of water in it to the perfect eating temprature.

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      It was me, I did it, I moved your cheese
    8. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by rhuntley12 · · Score: 1

      My parents air pop, I just use a microwave. Even the premium brands are just dirt cheap and no hassle. I can put a bag in and start a movie or open some beers/mix a drink or what not and it'll be ready. Plus not having to salt/butter which well bachelor pad the salt and butter are where?

    9. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by koreaman · · Score: 1

      1) I'm not a popcorn obsessive, that doesn't mean I don't enjoy good popcorn
      2) It's quite easy to justify something that costs less than $20.
      3) Your fridge takes up room, your TV Takes up room, even *gasp* your computer takes up room. Is that a reason not to have one?
      4) What? Every grocery store I've seen has the regular popcorn
      5) The reason you think it's bland salty junk food is because you use the microwave!
      PWN'D!

    10. Re:Air Popper = Better popcorn. by drsquare · · Score: 2, Informative

      1) Compared to how little most people think about popcorn, if your popcorn preparation consists of anything more involved than buying it from a cinema or putting a paper bag in the microwave, it counts as obsession. I mean, buying a device for something so obscure and irrelevent, I can't imagine how anyone could justify that.
      2) Not when you only use it once a year. I.e. if you're not a popcorn obsessive.
      3) Yes, because I use them more than once a year. And I can use them for things other than popcorn.
      4) I mean, unpopped, dried corns.
      5) No, it's because it's a bland vegetable puffed up into polystyrene with salt and butter for flavours. If you disagree then do tell me what flavours exactly it has? Note that polystyrene is not a flavour.

      PWN'D!

      You know, in order to 'PWN' someone, you have to actually make a decent argument, not just go through everything they've said and say 'no that's wrong'.

      I think it's pretty odd that people can spend so much effort on something so irrelevent. I mean, if you're going to be obsessed with a type of junk food, at least make it a half-decent junkfood like kebabs or something.

  46. I prefer charred corn by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

    I think this is about as good as popcorn gets:

    1. Pick ears of corn from cornfield.
    2. Create small fire pit nearby.
    3. Roll the ears of corn around in the fire.
    4. Unwrap corn and enjoy.

  47. Hmm 47% cheap brand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Some cheap brands is not cracked shell they are to dry.

    Place in water for 15 mins dry blow off with a hair drier on cold and then into a microwave or pan(hair drier is not need for pot but a good idea in microwave).

    I have seen it go from around 50 percent to around 90 percent just from this. Ok a little more money and more would pop but hey price beats the percent loss.

    Note more often than not I pan pop any how.

  48. There is one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Obesity is a disease isn't it? A professor of food chemistry could create some new food that makes people lose weight.

    Like that sandwich invented by Famine in Good Omens: it has no nutritional content, but it tastes great, so people keep eating and eating it. Oh, and it makes you feel like you're full. But your body isn't getting any nutrients, so you lose weight.

    However, there's one problem... People tend to keep eating it and dying :/

    Famine liked it quite a lot but, but maybe there's some way of using a similar concept to our advantage.

  49. Mandatory Simpsons Reference by racecarj · · Score: 1

    Now let's see if they can solve the mystery of who put that mud in the freezer.

  50. Aye, they offer explanations, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But we need *solutions*, damnit. The suffering must end.

  51. I disagree by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The quality of kernels is of minor concern
    Tell that to Linus!

    --
    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  52. perfect popcorn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    want the perfect pop?

    2 minutes and 50 seconds on 80% power. Works everytime.

  53. This is all bull crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I air pop my corn (not because I am a hippy, just because it's f'n easier) and the only kernels that don't pop are those that achieve escape velocity.

    Freshness isn't a factor either. I buy my corn in huge bags that last me AT LEAST 6 months, and they mix in a bucket with corn from the previous bags. There is the potential that kernels from 5 years ago exist unpopped in my pop-corn collection.

    I have, literally, less than 10 kernels of corn that doesn't get popped each try.

    As far as MICROWAVE popcorn, I have taken the unpopped kernels from a microwave batch, put them in my air popper with fresh corn, and popped them all. This is messy, because the oil from the microwave corn gets everywhere, but I wanted to try it out because I am easily amused. There is the potential to dry out the kernel, but that doesn't seam to be much of a problem.

    I suggest these people reconsider their findings. They can confirm my results by going to Target and buying an air popper, and then going to their store and buying a bag of popping corn. I am sure they will be pleasantly surprised.

    Coreyfro

  54. Shenanigans! by wing03 · · Score: 1

    I call shenanigans on the part of the premium popping corn companies! Orville Redenbacker is the only one that comes to mind.

    Not sure if it was in /. or somewhere else that mentioned that anything not political that ends up in the news is more likely a press release.

    As for popping all kernels, a nice pot with a thick bottom, butter and cheap or expensive kernels will pretty much always yield 100% popped kernels if it's stirred right.

  55. Warning, urban legend stuff! by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative
    My father, who worked at Oakridge on the Manhattan Project told me how they'd receive delicate instruments, packed in boxes of the stuff


    I have read this a few times, never seen any substantiated confirmation that popcorn is a good packing material. OK, if your father told you so, maybe they did try it at least once. But, from some controlled experiments I have read about, popcorn is actually a shitty packing material, compared to styrofoam.


    The reason? Mice and cockroaches. Popcorn is edible, styrofoam isn't. If you don't add some environmentally dangerous pesticides, you'll have a severe pest-control problem if you pack things with popcorn.

    1. Re:Warning, urban legend stuff! by Tore+S+B · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reason? Mice and cockroaches. Popcorn is edible, styrofoam isn't. If you don't add some environmentally dangerous pesticides, you'll have a severe pest-control problem if you pack things with popcorn.

      Also, popcorn is far less solid than styro. A good friend of mine got a rare terminal packed in popcorn - the terminal had quickly crushed the popcorn to a fine pulp and proceeded to fall apart itself.

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      toresbe
    2. Re:Warning, urban legend stuff! by DarkVader · · Score: 2, Informative

      But styrofoam didn't exist in the early '40s. It wasn't introduced in the US until 1954, from what I just read.

      And considering what kind of mess the Manhattan Project left in Oak Ridge, I think environmentally dangerous pesticides weren't much of a concern, and were the least of anyone's worries anyway.

    3. Re:Warning, urban legend stuff! by aqk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, it's not urban legend. Well, perhaps back in the Los Alamo days. I was but a mere tad in those days... But a few years ago (10? 15?) our orders for computer equipment began arriving packed in real popcorn instead of those nasty little styrofoam peanuts that seem to cling to everything. I thought (and so did the environmentalists) that it was a GREAT step forward. We even used to eat the stuff, with some trepidation. But they stopped using it as a packing material, because, as you remarked, vermin were chowing down on the stuff, and the packers had the choice of either spraying it with noxious pesticides and incurring the wrath of next-of-kin of inner city victims (and perhaps us), or going back to the styrofoam things. They reluctantly chose the latter. God, I hate those white peanuts!!

    4. Re:Warning, urban legend stuff! by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Way back in the Day Kaypro had the coolest packing system for there computers.
      They had a box with these plastic corners with what looked like three whiffle balls on them. THen that was packed in a bigger box.
      The whiffle like balls acted as shock absorbers.

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    5. Re:Warning, urban legend stuff! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Also, popcorn is far less solid than styro. A good friend of mine got a rare terminal packed in popcorn - the terminal had quickly crushed the popcorn to a fine pulp and proceeded to fall apart itself.

      Cripes. Read what you wrote! A terminal! Even styrofoam peanuts wouldn't be up to that kind of load. You'd need reinforced packaging.

      I've had people ship me things, amature packing jobs to be sure, just tossed into a box of peanuts and found half the volume of packing material reduced by the time it got to me. Mass of the item being packed should be taken into consideration. I'd probably have at least done a box in a box to spread the impact out a bit.

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    6. Re:Warning, urban legend stuff! by fireheadca · · Score: 1

      if its placed in clean plastic bags, you could eat
      it afterwards.

      Some packers use bags of air to pack with,
      if one used popcorn instead of air you would
      have a good packing material and a snack.


      --- "It's only you that makes it hard...."

  56. Now that the great popcorn problem is solved... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...let's get the scientists working on that asteroid collision in 24 years...tick, tick, tick...time is of the essence folks.

  57. yeah.. by Kaisum · · Score: 1

    That's research money well spent. Woo, now we know.

  58. So this is better why? by hendrila · · Score: 0

    I love the unpopped kernals! One of my favorite things is to dig into the last of a bowl of popcorn and eat the kernals.

    Especially the charred ones!

  59. Yep by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
    I only see three possibilities: no water in the kernal, not enough water in the kernal, or it leaks out during popping. 1 and 2 could be easily tested after popping some. Am I missing something?

    You're missing how obvious this is. Other than that I have no idea. Funny, isn't it, how little grasp people have of basic experimental design?

  60. Gad, it's come to this, has it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I thought the Linus /Bitkeeper, Moore's Lost Magazine (he probably left in the bathroom (WC for you EU types), and Google stuff was tedious. Hey Ed's, didn't anyone submit any knitting stories today?

  61. West Bend Poppery==Excellent Popcorn by quokkapox · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I did some calculations, and I have determined that your frugality should save you approximately $0.86 in popcorn raw material (over 10 years). However, the extra electricity used by the air popper is more than enough to nullify any actual financial gain.

    I have an aging West Bend Poppery and it makes fantastic popcorn. However, mine does not have a BBQ thermometer case mod like the one in the linked image.

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  62. Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (he probably left in the bathroom (WC for you EU types))

  63. Which just goes to indicate.. by psyclops · · Score: 1

    ... that there is way too much money being spent on research of seemingly pointless and random subjects...

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  64. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  65. CRACK CORN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jimmy, crack corn, and I don't care.
    Jimmy, crack corn, and I don't care,
    Jimmy, crack corn, and I don't care,
    My mastas gone away.

    Rod-a, he ride him and he jumped a ditch,
    He ride-a, he rode him, and the pony did pitch.
    The pony, he felt a little bit shy,
    'Cause he's bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

    When I went down in Louisiana,
    I stayed a little while in Texarkana.
    Every once in a while, I felt a little bit shy
    'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

    I was on my to Shreveport, Louisiana,
    Then I stopped out in Caspiana.
    And I felt a little bit shy,
    'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

    When I was drivin' along in my car
    I was stoppin' most anywhere.
    Once in while I look up in the sky
    'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

    Once in a while I do a little bit o'dance,
    And some of the people come around and says, "Will you allow me a little chance?
    But every once in a while I feel a little bit shy
    'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly.
    (Chorus) (2x)

  66. Does anyone else like half-popped kernels? by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

    Those are my favorites, crunchy but not too hard.

  67. Hot air poppers pop almost all every time by Prune · · Score: 4, Interesting

    An hot air popper I paid $3 for at a flea market leaves at most a couple kernels unpopped from enough corn I put in to make about five liters of popcorn. These never burn popcorn either, since once a kernel pops, it is blown away from the hottest bottom of the machine by the airflow. However leaky kernels are, usually the heat at the bottom will generate pressure faster than can be relieved -- the machine can reach very high temperatures, as I know since I use it to roast coffee beans as well.

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    1. Re:Hot air poppers pop almost all every time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We did an actual popcorn experiment in grade 7 (in science class) to determine which type+methods of popcorn gave the best results.

      Regular microwaved popcorn was the worst (lots of unpopped kernels).

      Regular jar of kernels in a kernel popper was good.

      But for the best results, keep your kernels in the freezer. This made the husks hard and more likely to pop using one of those kernel poppers.

      It was a pretty cool experiment at the time...and we got the eat the results!

  68. P3rf3ct P0pCrOn A Scientific Analysis by N3Bruce · · Score: 3, Informative

    Making perfect oil popped popcorn is an exact science, optimizing the ratio of oil, popcorn, and timing. While it is true that leaky hulls are the culprit in most old maids, a lot can be done to compensate by popping well. Here we go:

    The process: Oil is added to the pan, and heated over an electric element or open flame until the oil is hot enough to pop a few kernels added when the oil was cool. The rest of the load of popcorn, typically 1/3 cup, or about 80 grams of popcorn are added to a roughly equal amount of oil. Too much oil makes the popcorn greasy, too little inhibits rapid and even heat transfer from the oil and the pan.

    The pan itself is a freqently overlooked, but very important element in the mix. A flimsy thin pan tends to develop hot and cold spots, but just as important, it is an inadequate heat reservior. Once the load of popcorn is added to the oil, the temperature of the oil itself will drop, as heat is taken up in the kernels from the oil and the pan. Oil at 350 degrees will drop to about 200 when a roughly equal amount of popcorn is added. As a result, the heat necessary to heat the kernels sufficiently to rapidly develop steam inside must come from the fire itself. A heavy aluminum or cast iron pan will prevent such a sharp temperature drop, and all that heat in the skillet will find its way into the kernels quickly.

    Why is this important? Think of a car tire with a slow leak. If you try to pump it up with a hand pump or one of those battery operated compressors, you may never get the tire up to pressure. If you fill it from a large tank of high pressure air with a large bore hose, you can probably blow it out. The same thing happens with popcorn. A skillet with a large thermal mass will rapidly transfer the heat needed to rapidly develop steam in the leaky kernels before it can leak out. This is why the old Jiffy Pop popcorn usually had lots of old maids.

    The same thing will happen when you add popcorn to cold oil, and then heat it on the stove. As the oil heats, the precious steam inside many of the kernels will start to escape before it the oil gets hot enough to heat the kernels rapidly. Once the steam escapes, you will have charred old maids, no matter how high you turn the flame. You have much better results if you heat the oil in a heavy skillet to the brink of the oil smoking, then add the payload of kernels.

  69. Money was SPENT on this study?? by BrainSurgeon · · Score: 1

    WOW...lets see, finding out why unpopped kernels don't pop seems to really be up there, in terms of finding answers/cures, with AIDS, Cancer, The Common Cold and VD!

    "You know, I've been dying of cancer for six months...but man, I would REALLY like to know why those damn kernels don't pop! Please research that instead of a cure for cancer!"

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    "It's not rocket science, Smithers! It's only brain surgery!" --Mr. Burns
    1. Re:Money was SPENT on this study?? by otterbeck · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Oh, and this made the front page? I think that the mods are getting retarded.

  70. The only true Movie Popcorn is cooked in by jimmydevice · · Score: 0

    Palm kernel oil. Tasty, delicious smell and will give the weak of heart a cornary. Still available from concession supply houses, that is until banned by the Union of Concerned Scientists. http://www.ucsusa.org/

  71. I learned this 30+ years ago... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...on a tour of the Jiffy Pop popcorn factory.

    I guess they must have lost all pop corn knowledge when the grain elevator exploded and it took all these many years to regain why some corn will not pop.

    What a waste of research dollars.

  72. Blows "Great Shower Curtain Mystery" out of water. by 98neon · · Score: 0

    The shower curtain mystery being solved was "one giant leap for mankind". But as we all know, solving riddles trumps a solved mystery everytime.

  73. Re:What you don't know about popcorn can kill you. by jangobongo · · Score: 1
    Parent posted: The 'butter flavoring' in microwave popcorn has been linked to health problems. Might be a good idea to stick with the air popper or use the old-fashioned oil-in-a-pan-on-the-stove method.
    • Article: When the days turn humid in this farming town, the air becomes thick with the smell of butter from the Gilster-Mary Lee plant, a microwave-popcorn factory and one of the area's largest employers. At night, when the buildings' lights are ablaze, some residents say they've seen a yellowish cloud emanate from the building and fill the dark sky. For years, no one here complained much about the odor or the fumes, figuring those were harmless prices to pay for prosperity. But a growing number of workers say the cause of that aroma is destroying their lungs. Some former workers are afflicted with a rare lung disease believed to be caused by inhaling a substance never suspected as an on-the-job hazard: the butter flavoring in microwave popcorn.
    ...And here I thought this was going to be an article about cholesterol and artery clogging.

    On a lighter note, when I went to read the USA Today article and a pop-up ad came up, I thought of popcorn popping. *POP*
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    Sig cancelled due to lack of interest
  74. Damnit... by GundamFan · · Score: 1

    If this is what scientists do all day I am in the wrong line of work. ...Mmmmmm Popcorn

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    I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
    Mark Twain
  75. am i the only one who by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 1

    thinks "premium" popcorn is morally revolting ? It is nothing but marketing garbage. You can buy a huge jar of plain popcorn for a buck, or be brainwashed and buy fancy stuff for much more. There is something sick and evil about a country which thinks spending energy on marketing popcorn is a reasonable way to make a living.

  76. What's a hull? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The short answer is that unpopped kernels have leaky hulls (seed coats)

    And all this time I was wondering wtf a HULL was...

  77. My question to you is... by kernelistic · · Score: 1

    Did taxpayers pay for this? ;-)

  78. Movie? by Pretendstocare · · Score: 1

    I must be missing something, why does this have a "movie" tag?

  79. Interesting by jav1231 · · Score: 1

    It's interesting that we have folks who will lament that a given program will fork, and thus split the resources of a given development team. However, we will actually take seriously that a group of scientists....SCIENTISTS...have actually studied unpopped kernels of popcorn! UNPOPPED KERNELS OF POPCORN!....POPCORN!?
    And they were probably paid with tax-payer dollars!
    This is just sad!
    But I suppose humorous.

    1. Re:Interesting by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      "And they were probably paid with tax-payer dollars!"

      I know it's a lot to ask, but do you think you could RTFA?

    2. Re:Interesting by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Funded by "Purdue's Whistler Center for Carbohydrate Research," Schmuck. You think Purdue is a privately funded U?

    3. Re:Interesting by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      Last time I checked, even "public" universities were funded by student fees. Unless you can produce something that says this was part of a research grant...?

    4. Re:Interesting by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      You, Sir, are an idiot and I assume haven't had a college education.

    5. Re:Interesting by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      In other words, you can't produce one. Thanks for playing.

    6. Re:Interesting by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Produce a what? Look...PUBLIC education establishments not only get money from tuition, they also receive FEDERAL dollars. FED-ER-AL Had you taken the time to pass Contemporary History you'd know that FEDERAL means TAX DOLLARS.
      "Is it me? It's him, right?"

    7. Re:Interesting by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      "Produce a what?"

      Read up and see if you can't find the reference, college boy. :)

  80. Hello this is fucking obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    But Purdue University researchers found the key to a kernel's explosive success lies in the composition of its hull.


    Ever seen a grenade? A torpedeo? A firecracker? A Liquid Oxygen bottle? The whole god damn deal is the rigid container. No rigid container, no boom-boom. This is obvious to anyone that's microwaved popcorn in any appreciable amount, and seriously wondered why not all the kernels pop.

    That is to say, this should common sense to any average university engineering undergraduate.

    Now, if they fucking isolate teh gene that gives popcorn it's rigid coating, THEN I'll be impressed. I'll be outright thankful. That is tangible, useful information. We need that Orville Redenbocker son of a bitch using that genetically modified corn in his bags of microwave popcorn.

    But as it stands, this was a completely fucking worthless article. Wh00t for CNN's science division; they fucking earned their salaries on this one. Fuck!
  81. The wonders of modern science by Daxster · · Score: 1

    "No, I don't want to work on curing cancer or AIDS. I'm going to go figure out why some popcorn kernels don't pop!" Oh, the joys of what modern science is like.

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    Death by snoo-snoo!
  82. Best Popcorn Maker by Physician · · Score: 0

    The West Bend Stir Crazy is the absolute best way to make homemade popcorn. It looks like George Jetson's car. You pour in some oil. Then you pour in the popcorn seeds. Put the lid on, then sit back and wait for some delicious popcorn. As the name implies, it stirs the kernels and oil the whole time. You can even put some butter on the lid (where some holes are placed for this purpose) and let it melt on top of the popcorn as it's made.

    My question is. What makes the premium popcorn kernels cost more (and pop better) than the cheapo store brand? They just now discovered what makes some popcorn better than ever so what has been making the difference all these years before? How did Orville know how to get better kernels?

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  83. I like 'em by 1000101 · · Score: 1

    I acutally like the unpopped kernels. Well, the half-popped variety. Nice and crunchy. Yum.

  84. Scientists, Schmientists... by Rekrapt · · Score: 1

    I asked my Grandfather 30 years ago why some of the popcorn didn't pop and he told me that the kernels were already cracked and couldn't explode. What a waste of research $$$.

    1. Re:Scientists, Schmientists... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is well established that you are a fucking dumbass, so why should we listen to you?

  85. We've reached a new low by TruePaige · · Score: 1

    Jesus, this is the stuff we are mesmerized over!? I can't...believe you get...grants for this...CRAP! I'm ashamed.

  86. You shake the pan??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get yourself a good thick-walled aluminium 5 liter pot and a natural gas stove. Put on the pot with a little extra oil, dump in the corn, spread evenly, turn on high. Leave uncovered until the first kernels pop and then cover with a heavy aluminium lid. Do not shake. You can open slightly to release steam. Dispense when popping stops. Season with soy sauce, Worchestershire and Louisiana Redhot.

    I get a 5% unpopped, no burns, with the dreaded Sam's Choice brand.

  87. Arrgg! We be tarring the hulls then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That be stopping the leak!

  88. the best part? someone got PAID for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i WISH i had a job like this...

    studying something so pointless it cant matter

  89. Oh! by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

    Oh shall the wonders of modern science never cease?

  90. pop up trouble? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if using Firefox to run my microwave might be the reason.

  91. Unpopped will pop second time by kurtb149 · · Score: 1

    I have taken unpopped kernels from a microwave bag, place them back into the used microwave bag, and re-microwaved them, and almost all of them popped! I think a study is flawed.

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  92. Microwave popcorn without prefabricated pocorn bag by gnalle · · Score: 2, Informative
    Pour 1/2 deciliter of water, 1 deciliter of mays grains, and some salt into a very large bowl. Add microwave film as lid to the bowl and pop for 6 minutes at 900 W. It is easy and healthy.

    The fat in prefabricated popcorn bags often contains a lot of trans-fatty-acids. These acids are known to be unhealthy. Use my recipie for improved health and a better popcorn experience.

  93. Talk about your lame jobs... by chinton · · Score: 1

    Popcorn Board spokeswoman Wendy Boersema Rappel.

  94. having solved all of the world's problems... by abandonment · · Score: 1

    i think is what the fark headline would read...

    these people actually get money for this kind of thing?

    where do we sign up?

  95. wow by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

    unpopped kernels ranged from 4 percent in premium brands to 47 percent in the cheaper ones.

    I swear I read that as "unpopped kernels ranged from 4 percent in Pentium brands.... I was sitting here, trying to figure out why intel was making operating systems and what an unpopped kernel was....

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  96. I know... by presidentbeef · · Score: 1

    but at least now I can sleep at night! Mysteries of the universe revealed!

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  97. Freezing kernels by xdancergirlx · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if this has more to do with moisture/freshness retention or maybe it helps the shell leaks somehow but: keeping your unpopped kernels in the freezer (in the bag or a sealed container) makes an amazing difference. With the cheap safeway brand kernels I usually use, I get definitely less than 10 unpopped kernels a batch, on top of that they are totally light and fresh.

    When I'm watching movies at a friends house, I always bring my own kernels! Though, I'm a bit of a popcorn snob.

    As a canadian side note, Superstore no-name kernels have a much higher unpopped ratio, are less fresh, and make for smaller popped pieces than the Safeway no-name kernels which make some of the best popcorn ever. Usually I don't bother making distinctions like that but it's very marked in this case!

  98. ... solved by tzakiel · · Score: 0

    popcorn mystery solved. cancer, aids still rampant.

  99. Very true by GoClick · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've known this for YEARS.

    Also if you want your bagged microwave popcorn to pop better unfold the bag and spread the oil gobbed seeds away from each other to all corners of the bag evenly and then reduce the cooking time by about 10% and you'll have a great bag every time with almost no unpopped seeds.

    If you really like light fluffy popcorn you could build a microwave with an air pump in it, if you reduce the air pressure to a near vacuum they pop considerably larger. Keep in mind your average microwave is not, and was never meant to be used as a low pressure vessel.

  100. The problem with an air popper though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    is that it has only one single use: popping popcorn. Not everyone can afford an appliance for every single type of food preparation, so microwave popcorn has the advantage of being accessible to just about anyone.

  101. Air poppers are vi, microwaves are emacs. by jdfox · · Score: 1

    So with an air popper, I get fewer bad kernels, just over three times the amount of corn, and I can control the salt and butter amounts.

    I don't understand why people use microwaves rather than a cheap air popper.


    Agreed.
    But some people prefer the swiss army knife approach, while others prefer to select the right tool for the job.

  102. The solution... by gg3po · · Score: 1

    I've found that, after eating all the popped ones, you can flatten the bag again, roll up the opening a couple times (so it's like it's sealed again), and give it another 30-45 seconds in the microwave (mileage may vary, don't overpop! It will burn.), and roughly the same percentage will pop up, again. You can keep repeating this process and get almost 100% popped kernels this way.

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  103. Question for physicists by KingofSpades · · Score: 1

    Anyone knows at what pressure the kernels explode ? (for those which do)

  104. this is up-to-date research? by darth_linux · · Score: 1

    I think Alton Brown of Good Eats (http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ea) explained this two years ago. (at least) but of course his wasn't a publicly-funded consession of whitecoats eating popcorn all day pretending to do science.

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  105. Re:the best part? someone got PAID for this by tofucubes · · Score: 1

    "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters" - slashdot need I say more?

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  106. blended gookum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is hydrogenated palm or coconut oil.
    they do this because it's solid at body temperature and therefore less likely to transfer from hands to theatre chairs.

    AFAIK the main problem with hydrogenated fats is that their half life, in the body, is MUCH greater than other fats.

    IMO, and a bit of research will dig up agreement, lard that has not been hydrogenated(the kind you used to buy in a can or from the refrigerated section of the grocery) is much healthier than butter, which has a higher melting temp. Today almost all lard is hydrogenated and sold in unrefrigerated bricks. Sure, it's easier to make pie crust because you don't need ice water and a cold stone to work on. But, it's not nearly as healthy. Try some garlic flavored lard when you pop your next batch of corn and then sprinkle with sea salt.

    Your best dietary fats have very low melting temps. Whale oil and fish oils, peanut oil, olive oil, etc. Margirine is bad because it's nothing more than hydrogenated corn oil. IIRC nickel is used as a catalyst in the process and I bet you can find some recipes on the net or in some of those 'formula for profit' books from the 60's.

  107. How much did this research cost??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much did this research cost??? Wow. And I thought it had to do with my Jiffy Popcorn being a few decades old.

  108. there's a way by john_uy · · Score: 1
    i watched in a cooking show about making popcorns. there was a technique used to pop all the corns. it indeed worked.

    iirc, it goes something like heating the popcorn then removing it away from the heat and cooking them again.

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  109. Popcorn / Cancer / HIV / MS by madshot · · Score: 1

    Great,
    I feel so much better now that I know science is trying to figure out why popcorn doesn't pop instead of a cure for Cancer, MS, HIV and such.

    Maybe they should of asked a 5 year old for the answer about popcorn. You would have spent less time coming up with a solution.

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  110. What? by stonecypher · · Score: 1

    Since when is this a riddle? I've been buying jarred popping corn that said this on the label as a point of advertisement for almost 15 years.

    It's bad when the scientists are catching up to the marketers.

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  111. Not urban legend stuff! by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Informative
    I have read this a few times, never seen any substantiated confirmation that popcorn is a good packing material. OK, if your father told you so, maybe they did try it at least once. But, from some controlled experiments I have read about, popcorn is actually a shitty packing material, compared to styrofoam.

    Your experiences are far to grounded in the past few decades. Popcorn was frequently used for delicate electronics and other instruments ad there were few alternatives. There were some materials which resembled dried hanging-moss, but regarding mice and cockroaches, that's a pretty esoteric concern. A package wasn't likely to sit around long enough for pests to find it.

    My father mentioned his colleagues trying some of the popcorn packing material, but indicated they weren't very enthusiastic about eating it, even in WW II days when everything was scarce and rationed.

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  112. Popping Methods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone else dry-pop corn in a microwave?

    Many of the pre-packaged microwave popcorns are pretty bad. In fact, I've found I'm allergic to some of the oils that are used.

    The military microwaves that were used for cooking on submarines in the 40's were powerful, and would pop corn in a paper bag in seconds. But today's commercial ones are apparenly much lower power, take more time, and don't pop as high a percentage of kernels.

    A few years ago, I bought an Orville Redenbacher microwave popper at K-Mart. It is a platic containter, with a replaceable cardboard disk in the bottom. The disk is one of those silver things used to absorb microwaves and produce direct heat, like the ones packaged in many frozen microwave meals. This works remarkably well. It's much easier to clean than any air-popper I've used, and the popcorn is very good. I usually add melted butter and salt. (The salt won't stick to it unless you put some sort of oil or other liquid on it.)

    I've found that as long as you butter the popcorn, table salt works as well as popcorn salt, and in fact it's easier to distribute evenly. It sticks to the butter on the kernels. Popcorn salt (finely ground salt) may stick to the moisture of a freshly popped kernel without butter, but I wouldn't know....

  113. Get used to it, folks by AveryT · · Score: 1

    If the Republicans and the Religious Right have their way, this is the only kind of research that scientists will be allowed to pursue. Forget about stem cells, AIDS research, evolution, alternative fuels, the environment; those will be all be off limits. The only science that will be allowed is the kind that helps giant corporations sell shite products to consumers.

  114. Loss of IQ by maxter3185 · · Score: 1

    Waitaminute, meesa has no floss of ICQ, YAY, I'm going to Hawaii, YAY!!! Special Ed is Angry Yay!!!

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  115. Iowa theaters by hawk · · Score: 1

    In Iowa, they actually ran commercials in the theater to let you know which *brand* of real butter they used . . . and then another theater opened with genuine yellow goo . . .

    hawk

  116. Crazy Stir Rules! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crazy Stir makes the BEST popcorn! OMFG I'm talking like a kid. I'm 35.