Hi, school IT tech here. I'm all for a pay rise! How about we raise your taxes so I can get one? Don't like that idea, right? Maybe take some money out of health care? Sanitation? Policing?
Yeah... I didn't think so. After four years, I make around 60% of what I would in the private sector starting wage for the same job. Guess what, though! Jobs are scarce, so I can't afford to be picky. Yes, I'm good at what I do (and I've done great things for this school), but by no means is the public sector all green fields and pork barrel funding. We're more cash-strapped than you can imagine (I'm having to buy cheaper asset labels, for pity's sake).
I would add a two more screwdrivers, both Phillips #2: One long shank, one stubby. There is always one screw just too far away, one in a space just too short for your multi-head.
We have a test for competency. It's called the driving test.
My personal opinion, however is that there should be mandatory re-testing at regular intervals. Specifically, I think that new drivers should have a free re-test at 2 years, then every 10 years afterwards until their 60th birthday. Past that, it should be every 5 years with a cursory eye exam ("Read that numberplate with whatever corrective lens you require for driving at a minimum distance of 20.5m" is the current UK law), and over 75 every 2 years with significantly reduced fees. Pensioners here get free public transport travel anyway.
I think I see where your thinking is confused... you have been conditioned by cultural norms to believe that domestic violence is "bad" but that school bullying is "harmless". In reality, there is no qualitative difference between domestic abuse and bullying, it is virtually the identical thing.. same actions, same effects on victims, it's the same thing. We even have a defense called 'battered wife syndrome', but we haven't yet afforded bullying victims something like 'battered bullying victim syndrome'. This is only because mentally we are still operating under the indoctrination that bullying is "harmless".
Wow... Not at all. My parents moved to a new city when I was 11, so I went into secondary school knowing nobody whatsoever. Yeah, that part of my life was fucking awesome, thanks for asking:) I suffered with exactly the same "hold yourself back" mentality in secondary school, to the point where I went from one of the brightest children in my primary school to a scrape-the-basic-requirements-for-a-job-thanks-to-soft-drugs-and-underage-drinking at the end, and it has taken me a LONG time to get past that. As such, I have a real soft spot for bullying and domestic abuse victims, and no sympathy for bullies at all. However, the intellectual in me knows that you can only beat more violence into someone, you can't beat it out of them. So, I believe support is the way forward.
I hate to quote a Michael Moore film, as he has as much of an agenda as the other side, but something Marilyn Manson said in "Bowling for Columbine" really stuck with me. When asked "What would you say to the Columbine shooters today, if you could?"
His reply: "I wouldn't say anything. I would listen to what they had to say. That's the one thing nobody did."
Then why have you posted a second comment stating that domestic abuse (your example) and bullying (the topic under discussion) are in fact different? Cognitive dissonance much?
That members of society who have morals, and aren't sociopaths, actually believe that certain actions are wrong, and that you should take steps against those who commit them, and protect the innocent victims.
Please, identify the victims without them coming forward, or you witnessing first hand the bully in action (Unlikely; As I've said, they are very good at hiding their bullying, just as sociopaths are good, when confronted, at hiding their sociopathy).
Trying to dismiss the analogy with false claims does not make your glaring inconsistency go away: Either we start blaming the victim in all these situations in adult society as well as for children (and get rid of laws criminalizing domestic abuse, because hey, it's the victim's fault) - or we need to accept that we need to be consistent, and that it is our moral failing if we blame five year old victims and put them into situations where they are unsafe and we fail to protect them.
I don't think I blamed the victim anywhere in my post. I said that unless a bully is identified by a victim, it's unlikely that any action can be taken. There are many ways to go about this; I listed them in my post, by no means exhaustively.
Um, we're talking about five year olds here. Are you for real? Five year olds are especially vulnerable. Do you think a five year old has the thinking capacity of an adult? My God, I hope you are never placed anywhere remotely near in charge of any child whatsoever. You think the nation's five year olds must all just wake up tomorrow morning suddenly understanding what they need to do? Seriously? That's your big solution?
Whoa, there! All of a sudden we're back on children and not domestic abuse! For what it's worth, I actually work in a primary school, though only in a support capacity. I see, daily, children telling their teachers, or another adult, when a fellow child is causing them distress. "Telling tales" isn't a big deal anymore. At least where I work, everyone is supportive when a child reports bullying, whether it's physical or emotional, and that doesn't just go for the victim. Bullying is challenged by seeking the reasons for the behaviour, and supporting the bully through changing for the better.
Yeah! That'll show'em! Scorched earth, man! Retribution is the way forward! Peace through superior firepower! *Smashes beer tin on face*
You sound like a religious fundamentalist, or a backwater redneck, neither of which have any business in civilised discourse. It's not that I don't agree with your opinion; Your opinion is just wrong. Wrong like denial of global warming, or believing in Creationism. You beat on the bully, and he finds another target. All you have done is shift the problem onto somebody else, which makes you no better than the bully. I don't pretend to know how to deal with bullies, but I do know that your way is wrong.
Furthermore, your final statement is particularly inflammatory. I wonder if you believe an unruly dog should be beaten into submission? They are no better than a child, intelligence wise; They learn what they are taught. If you are cruel to a dog, it will grow to be cruel. The same applies to a child.
Good straw man argument, there, but I'll respond anyway. "How they handle themselves" in these situations is fundamental; They either stay quiet and do nothing, thereby remaining the target of the bully's menace, because nobody else knows this is happening. Or, they take their life into their own hands like human beings and do something about it. That might be telling a teacher, the school nurse, a dinner lady, line manager or employer, a social worker, a union rep, the police, their GP, a friend, the ex-doorman in the local pub who happens to know a few unpleasant people... Either way, the first step needs to come from the victim. Otherwise nobody is to know; Bullies are very good at covering their tracks.
I frequently tell my boss she's stupid. She employed me for my technical expertise; Agreeing with her stupid decisions would be counter productive for both of us.
She also frequently tells me that I'm stupid. She is employed for her managerial and academic skills, and when I try to make assumptions about how teaching should work she promptly tells me I'm being an idiot.
Capitulation leads to stagnation. As long as you can admit when you're wrong, it's not a bad thing to tell others when they are.
"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene." - Colonel Walter E. Kurtz, Francis Ford Copolla's Apocalypse Now!
What about sexualised imagery (not just the videos; Some of the lyrics are plainly obscene) in pop music, when showing just a boob gets a show an adult cert in the US. Not a problem seeing real boobs at the beach, though!
... [T]he breakthrough is purely software-based, meaning it could be rolled out to existing WiFi networks relatively easily.
This is the engineer-speak version.
Sales speak: "We can slash the R&D budget to nothing for the next 5 years by selling existing hardware with incremental improvements to the software stack, maximising our likelihood of getting a brand new Audi every six months. We should probably put a new fridge in the break room, though, so the peons don't get pissy about us shafting the consumer and not giving them a pay rise for the third year running."
I too have seen where this is the case, however the point is moot; I don't trust the factory image, so why would I trust the recovery media?
There are Windows ISOs available from Microsoft. You can legally download these ISOs without any issue; It's the license key and certificate of authenticity which are your license documents.
Well your first mistake was not wiping any new PC completely before use. Microsoft have acknowledged that malware can be installed on new PCs at the factory, so using it at all without wiping is russian roulette with your personal information.
Download a DBAN ISO and keep it somewhere for when you buy a new PC. Wipe it, reinstall Windows, install drivers (which you should download from the vendor's website from a different PC. Don't put a memory stick in to the new PC before wiping). It's more work, but your experience with the new PC will be better for it.
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Hi, school IT tech here. I'm all for a pay rise! How about we raise your taxes so I can get one? Don't like that idea, right? Maybe take some money out of health care? Sanitation? Policing?
Yeah... I didn't think so. After four years, I make around 60% of what I would in the private sector starting wage for the same job. Guess what, though! Jobs are scarce, so I can't afford to be picky. Yes, I'm good at what I do (and I've done great things for this school), but by no means is the public sector all green fields and pork barrel funding. We're more cash-strapped than you can imagine (I'm having to buy cheaper asset labels, for pity's sake).
Cost != Purchase price.
I would add a two more screwdrivers, both Phillips #2: One long shank, one stubby. There is always one screw just too far away, one in a space just too short for your multi-head.
We have a test for competency. It's called the driving test.
My personal opinion, however is that there should be mandatory re-testing at regular intervals. Specifically, I think that new drivers should have a free re-test at 2 years, then every 10 years afterwards until their 60th birthday. Past that, it should be every 5 years with a cursory eye exam ("Read that numberplate with whatever corrective lens you require for driving at a minimum distance of 20.5m" is the current UK law), and over 75 every 2 years with significantly reduced fees. Pensioners here get free public transport travel anyway.
Have to keep the mind control chemicals in plane contrails out somehow.
I see your bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a bird, and raise you a bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a bird in a pig.
X 10!
The Turbaconepic Not just for Thanksgiving.
Bonus points if she posted this on Facebook or Google+.
The scent of parsley is more pleasing on the breath than the meal you've just eaten, especially...
... especially if you've just eaten wang!
I defer to your obviously copious experience in that matter :)
I think I see where your thinking is confused ... you have been conditioned by cultural norms to believe that domestic violence is "bad" but that school bullying is "harmless". In reality, there is no qualitative difference between domestic abuse and bullying, it is virtually the identical thing .. same actions, same effects on victims, it's the same thing. We even have a defense called 'battered wife syndrome', but we haven't yet afforded bullying victims something like 'battered bullying victim syndrome'. This is only because mentally we are still operating under the indoctrination that bullying is "harmless".
Wow... Not at all. My parents moved to a new city when I was 11, so I went into secondary school knowing nobody whatsoever. Yeah, that part of my life was fucking awesome, thanks for asking :) I suffered with exactly the same "hold yourself back" mentality in secondary school, to the point where I went from one of the brightest children in my primary school to a scrape-the-basic-requirements-for-a-job-thanks-to-soft-drugs-and-underage-drinking at the end, and it has taken me a LONG time to get past that. As such, I have a real soft spot for bullying and domestic abuse victims, and no sympathy for bullies at all. However, the intellectual in me knows that you can only beat more violence into someone, you can't beat it out of them. So, I believe support is the way forward.
I hate to quote a Michael Moore film, as he has as much of an agenda as the other side, but something Marilyn Manson said in "Bowling for Columbine" really stuck with me. When asked "What would you say to the Columbine shooters today, if you could?"
His reply: "I wouldn't say anything. I would listen to what they had to say. That's the one thing nobody did."
It's not a straw man, it's an analogy
Then why have you posted a second comment stating that domestic abuse (your example) and bullying (the topic under discussion) are in fact different? Cognitive dissonance much?
That members of society who have morals, and aren't sociopaths, actually believe that certain actions are wrong, and that you should take steps against those who commit them, and protect the innocent victims.
Please, identify the victims without them coming forward, or you witnessing first hand the bully in action (Unlikely; As I've said, they are very good at hiding their bullying, just as sociopaths are good, when confronted, at hiding their sociopathy).
Trying to dismiss the analogy with false claims does not make your glaring inconsistency go away: Either we start blaming the victim in all these situations in adult society as well as for children (and get rid of laws criminalizing domestic abuse, because hey, it's the victim's fault) - or we need to accept that we need to be consistent, and that it is our moral failing if we blame five year old victims and put them into situations where they are unsafe and we fail to protect them.
I don't think I blamed the victim anywhere in my post. I said that unless a bully is identified by a victim, it's unlikely that any action can be taken. There are many ways to go about this; I listed them in my post, by no means exhaustively.
Um, we're talking about five year olds here. Are you for real? Five year olds are especially vulnerable. Do you think a five year old has the thinking capacity of an adult? My God, I hope you are never placed anywhere remotely near in charge of any child whatsoever. You think the nation's five year olds must all just wake up tomorrow morning suddenly understanding what they need to do? Seriously? That's your big solution?
Whoa, there! All of a sudden we're back on children and not domestic abuse! For what it's worth, I actually work in a primary school, though only in a support capacity. I see, daily, children telling their teachers, or another adult, when a fellow child is causing them distress. "Telling tales" isn't a big deal anymore. At least where I work, everyone is supportive when a child reports bullying, whether it's physical or emotional, and that doesn't just go for the victim. Bullying is challenged by seeking the reasons for the behaviour, and supporting the bully through changing for the better.
That's great and all, as long as everyone who emails you encrypts their email too. Or never forwards anything you send.
Yeah! That'll show'em! Scorched earth, man! Retribution is the way forward! Peace through superior firepower! *Smashes beer tin on face*
You sound like a religious fundamentalist, or a backwater redneck, neither of which have any business in civilised discourse. It's not that I don't agree with your opinion; Your opinion is just wrong. Wrong like denial of global warming, or believing in Creationism. You beat on the bully, and he finds another target. All you have done is shift the problem onto somebody else, which makes you no better than the bully. I don't pretend to know how to deal with bullies, but I do know that your way is wrong.
Furthermore, your final statement is particularly inflammatory. I wonder if you believe an unruly dog should be beaten into submission? They are no better than a child, intelligence wise; They learn what they are taught. If you are cruel to a dog, it will grow to be cruel. The same applies to a child.
Good straw man argument, there, but I'll respond anyway. "How they handle themselves" in these situations is fundamental; They either stay quiet and do nothing, thereby remaining the target of the bully's menace, because nobody else knows this is happening. Or, they take their life into their own hands like human beings and do something about it. That might be telling a teacher, the school nurse, a dinner lady, line manager or employer, a social worker, a union rep, the police, their GP, a friend, the ex-doorman in the local pub who happens to know a few unpleasant people... Either way, the first step needs to come from the victim. Otherwise nobody is to know; Bullies are very good at covering their tracks.
Yeah, you sound totally well-adjusted.
... ends in making everybody blind." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
"An-eye-for-an-eye-for-an-eye-for-an-eye
I frequently tell my boss she's stupid. She employed me for my technical expertise; Agreeing with her stupid decisions would be counter productive for both of us.
She also frequently tells me that I'm stupid. She is employed for her managerial and academic skills, and when I try to make assumptions about how teaching should work she promptly tells me I'm being an idiot.
Capitulation leads to stagnation. As long as you can admit when you're wrong, it's not a bad thing to tell others when they are.
Here's another word for you:
Definition of COERCE 1: to restrain or dominate by force
2: to compel to an act or choice
3: to achieve by force or threat
"Give us your DNA so we can catch a rapist" fits definition 2 pretty well, don't you think?
The scent of parsley is more pleasing on the breath than the meal you've just eaten, especially after garlic or onion dishes. Treat it like a mint.
"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene."
- Colonel Walter E. Kurtz, Francis Ford Copolla's Apocalypse Now!
What about sexualised imagery (not just the videos; Some of the lyrics are plainly obscene) in pop music, when showing just a boob gets a show an adult cert in the US. Not a problem seeing real boobs at the beach, though!
Two words:
Beowulf Cluster.
Two things need to happen first:
Abundant free energy, and energy-matter conversion on an industrial scale. That way everyone can have anything they want.
Yup. We pretty much need to live in Star Trek.
Being the scum floating on top of the other scum doesn't make it any more appetizing to me.
I find the phrase "The freshest turd in the cesspit" gets the my opinion across succinctly.
Wow, feeling a bit like a guy who needs a new fridge in the breakroom are we?
Breaks in which to enjoy a break room would be a start.
This is the engineer-speak version.
Sales speak: "We can slash the R&D budget to nothing for the next 5 years by selling existing hardware with incremental improvements to the software stack, maximising our likelihood of getting a brand new Audi every six months. We should probably put a new fridge in the break room, though, so the peons don't get pissy about us shafting the consumer and not giving them a pay rise for the third year running."
I too have seen where this is the case, however the point is moot; I don't trust the factory image, so why would I trust the recovery media?
There are Windows ISOs available from Microsoft. You can legally download these ISOs without any issue; It's the license key and certificate of authenticity which are your license documents.
Well your first mistake was not wiping any new PC completely before use. Microsoft have acknowledged that malware can be installed on new PCs at the factory, so using it at all without wiping is russian roulette with your personal information.
Download a DBAN ISO and keep it somewhere for when you buy a new PC. Wipe it, reinstall Windows, install drivers (which you should download from the vendor's website from a different PC. Don't put a memory stick in to the new PC before wiping). It's more work, but your experience with the new PC will be better for it.