I'd rather spend the $24 on a DVD than spend 3 hours doing the streaming media dance in Reboot NT. It's far cheaper to have them burn a DVD of the Bruce Lee movie and mail it than it is to lease an internet connection fast enough to download a decent quality movie.
I want 720x480 24fps, not another streaming homage to Microsoft that we continually get around here. After seeing full D1 you never want to play another internet stream again.
I've been to a very conservative religious college in a very conservative state south of Idaho where the undergrad math majors were primarily women. For them math is a lucrative teaching field, without getting them too involved in the role of providing for the family that comes with a EE degree. Maybe your girlfriend's words were really "I hate the damn breadwinning!!!!#@!@#"
In every industry where one person was capable of supporting the needs of two, throughout all history, the women have dropped out and the men have been expected to win the bread. It's mathematically undefeatable. No-one knows why. It's just a law of nature we have to get used to.
The idea that there would be fewer job opportunities if women tackled the same roles as men is debatable. In fact there would be twice as many consumer expendatures than there are now since most women currently depend on men as a primary breadwinner.
It costs $8 less to copy a DVD to a pack of CD-R's. $20 less to downsample the DVD to 1.5Mbit/sec and store it on CD-R. On modern computers it's just like ripping audio tracks. Any process of copying involves a decode step and an encode step to segment the files into 650 meg chunks. The decode step is only possible with deCSS.
Seems amazing that anyone at UCSB would have the brain power to do any hacking at all. They must have really cleaned up IV. The cost of living has risen so much you pretty much have to be a celebrity to go there anymore. Inflation? We're not having any inflation.
It's also well known that sleep deprivation decreases life expectancy. Remember the DJ in 1959 who spent 200 hours on the air without any sleep. Then they found he was permanently brain damaged. He had increased brain activity all right but he was a vegetable. Ever since then when a radio station wanted to pull a stunt like that they had the DJ taking intermittant naps.
It looks like hackers finally asked themselves what they wanted to do with DVDs and the answer was nothing. No-one's breaking down the walls for Linux DVD players. A few students made a hobby in learning how to decode the frames and audio in DVD streams but work on creating a practical DVD player ended a long time ago. The issue is now should we be able to rip DVDs.
Well there are two camps of users in the DVD business just as there are two camps of users in the user interface business. Some want everything commandline and some want everything graphical. Some just want to rip DVDs and some just want to play DVDs. Right now the numbers seem about even. We have just as many students wanting to rip DVDs as those who want to play them. It looks like most just want the individual freedom of being able to rip a DVD even if they can't afford the DVD creation hardware.
When given the software to play DVDs, users tend to ask themselves "Now that we can play DVDs what now?" and rapidly shift from deCSS as a playback option to deCSS as a ripping tool. On the other hand, when they see the complexity involved in writing an actual playback program, they're more than happy to focus on DVD ripping instead of writing a player.
Yeah, they bought a spare service module from the Air Force for $150 million and abandonned it. Second rule of government spending: if you can't find outside solicitors, buy stuff from other divisions of yourself and complain about not being able to tax mail order catalogs.
What version of Adobe Premiere did you use for the video? I can't seem to get Win NT to run for more than a few minutes yet obviously Premiere is everyone's favorite.
Sounds like jumping from 32 to 64 bits caused a huge performance hit. If all they can do is run an MPEG-I player full screen with no audio, my Celeron 550 can do that. Why do you need 64 bits to run the same web server that runs just fine in 32 bits? Maybe if higher clock speeds were possible in 64 bits there would be some use in graphics, but Kurt said he only worked on graphics in 1994. Today he works on web servers. Graphics software is a worthless waste in today's industry. Intel isn't giving much of an incentive to upgrade the existing 32 bit credit card and web server software to 64 bits.
Seems like they're getting paranoid about Linux just like they did in 1997. Release another alpha of Microsoft Netshow to scare off the competition. Then abandon it for 3 years until someone starts threatening to release a competing product again. Don't see anyone threatening to release a competing product now however.
If the MPAA allows a binary player to have decrytion, the conspiracy theory goes out the window and kiss the deCSS source code goodbye. Proving that the MPAA wouldn't ban a Linux DVD player if one existed is exactly what the community wants to avoid.
It seems like, with one of the primary arguments behind deCSS being the MPAA wanting to monopolize the DVD player market, that Linux hackers actually don't want a DVD player. If a binary Linux DVD player surfaced which supported decryption and the MPAA didn't ban it, that would show that the MPAA wasn't interested in monopolizing the market and be the end of deCSS source code. So we see a natural reaction: no Linux DVD players capable of decryption being mentioned anywhere or linked by anyone yet lots of argument that deCSS should be legal because if it was incorporated in some fictitious player that we don't want to mention, that the MPAA would surely ban it.
The problem is for a DVD decoder to really "exist" in the Linux world, it has to be compilable from the source code up, unlike the windows world where anything goes. Sure you can download a binary that plays encrypted DVD's for Linux but who wants to run anything you can't compile yourself?
I spent $200 on DVD drives and disks just because there was a decryption module for it. A person with my education has to work 3 hours to pay for 1 DVD and 2 days to pay for a DVD drive. For that kind of effort we should be allowed to play the DVD. The kids who use my software refuse to use anything they can't compile from the source code themselves. That means a lot of people aren't buying into this format who would if the source code was just legal.
After watching a complete movie in DVD, I'm never going to bother with VHS again. DVD truly is spectacular on a computer monitor. VHS is truly a colossal waste of time and money. When you get your graduation presents, make sure they have a DVD drive. You don't need a decoder, just download a software DVD player. I don't care what Linus/Transmeta says. A Linux box and a computer monitor will always have better color and resolution than any crummy appliance.
All we're doing is showing them that our user base isn't getting any older. It looks like there's a Linux guru in one of the dorms at Georgia Tech and every Spring semester they have a new group of users which wants to do something. Last year they had a shoutcast server. The problem is the users are only around for a couple years. People in that Georgia Tech club move out in June and they get replaced next year. Apple doesn't see the kind of user retention that you get from Windows users.
I used to use GQMpeg back when xmms crashed every 5 minutes. Then I used xmms briefly to listen to shoutcast, but never had a use for the visualization plugins. My biggest quandary was the number of buttons which give no indication of their function. Now I use Broadcast 2000 for everything. It's big and overkill but it's easy to use.
Most of the kids I'm contacted by think DVD's should be played using dedicated appliances and hardware decoders only. CmdrTaco uses a DVD appliance. VALinux uses WinNT.
The biggest argument is that deCSS was written to allow playback on Linux yet the defending lawyer emphatically denies the existance of any player for DVD files on Linux.
The public interest in this case has not been about playing DVD's on Linux but individual freedom. That makes the argument as credible as wanting to drink under the age of 21. Face it. When you're a teenager you have no rights, but when you graduate from college you'll inevitably have more rights. How many Linux hackers do you run into who have graduated from college? So without any credibility behind the DVD argument, no DVD player, and no interest we can only expect a repeat of the Fraunhoffer Gmbh fiasco.
The kid is definitely too young to be prosecuted in an American court. Unfortunately, I'm too old to get away with these things without prosecution. I'm also no longer under the free legal protection and dependancy status that college students enjoy. Yet I've integrated decryption and decoding in one step.
DVD playback is only possible if you decrypt and decode in one step. You can't decrypt the entire DVD and play the files off your hard drive because it's too slow. You can't cat the decrypted data through UNIX pipes because this doesn't allow seeking.
So what I've done is integrated decryption in the DVD decoder but I'm not allowed to distribute it because that would violate the GPL and I'm too old to avoid prosecution. The only way for a person like me to distribute it is as a binary.
The decryption engine is just one.c file but distributing any of the decoder without that one file violates the GPL. Perhaps we could get a consensus on allowing a binary form of the decoder to be distributed with decryption. The we could agree on distributing the source code of everything but the one.c file.
In other words. DVD playback is only possible if you build the decryption into the decoder. We can have a tarball containing everything but one decryption file and a binary player which decrypts on the fly but we need to resolve the GPL issue.
Sorry hun. You're going to have to win the bread.
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The joys of marriage. I have never seen a married couple which was happy. They work their asses off to appear happy but never are. For 4 years of engagement the wife has the whole patriarchy system structured like a swiss watch and the husband has spent 4 years of engagement trying to synthesize the financial resources of two. Then the certificate is signed, the husband continues to work like mad to impress the wife and provide, and the economy changes. One day the husband comes home with some bad news. The wife has to get a BSEE at the age of 40. The relationship goes down hill and it's another engineering student ranting about how life sucks da daaa.
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I'd rather spend the $24 on a DVD than spend 3 hours doing the streaming media dance in Reboot NT. It's far cheaper to have them burn a DVD of the Bruce Lee movie and mail it than it is to lease an internet connection fast enough to download a decent quality movie.
Yes, you can get HPT366 on the BP6. You can also get DVD on it. But forget about HPT366 and DVD in the same kernel. They just won't compile together.
I want 720x480 24fps, not another streaming homage to Microsoft that we continually get around here. After seeing full D1 you never want to play another internet stream again.
I've been to a very conservative religious college in a very conservative state south of Idaho where the undergrad math majors were primarily women. For them math is a lucrative teaching field, without getting them too involved in the role of providing for the family that comes with a EE degree. Maybe your girlfriend's words were really "I hate the damn breadwinning!!!!#@!@#"
In every industry where one person was capable of supporting the needs of two, throughout all history, the women have dropped out and the men have been expected to win the bread. It's mathematically undefeatable. No-one knows why. It's just a law of nature we have to get used to.
The idea that there would be fewer job opportunities if women tackled the same roles as men is debatable. In fact there would be twice as many consumer expendatures than there are now since most women currently depend on men as a primary breadwinner.
It costs $8 less to copy a DVD to a pack of CD-R's. $20 less to downsample the DVD to 1.5Mbit/sec and store it on CD-R. On modern computers it's just like ripping audio tracks. Any process of copying involves a decode step and an encode step to segment the files into 650 meg chunks. The decode step is only possible with deCSS.
Seems amazing that anyone at UCSB would have the brain power to do any hacking at all. They must have really cleaned up IV. The cost of living has risen so much you pretty much have to be a celebrity to go there anymore. Inflation? We're not having any inflation.
It's also well known that sleep deprivation decreases life expectancy. Remember the DJ in 1959 who spent 200 hours on the air without any sleep. Then they found he was permanently brain damaged. He had increased brain activity all right but he was a vegetable. Ever since then when a radio station wanted to pull a stunt like that they had the DJ taking intermittant naps.
It looks like hackers finally asked themselves what they wanted to do with DVDs and the answer was nothing. No-one's breaking down the walls for Linux DVD players. A few students made a hobby in learning how to decode the frames and audio in DVD streams but work on creating a practical DVD player ended a long time ago. The issue is now should we be able to rip DVDs.
Well there are two camps of users in the DVD business just as there are two camps of users in the user interface business. Some want everything commandline and some want everything graphical. Some just want to rip DVDs and some just want to play DVDs. Right now the numbers seem about even. We have just as many students wanting to rip DVDs as those who want to play them. It looks like most just want the individual freedom of being able to rip a DVD even if they can't afford the DVD creation hardware.
When given the software to play DVDs, users tend to ask themselves "Now that we can play DVDs what now?" and rapidly shift from deCSS as a playback option to deCSS as a ripping tool. On the other hand, when they see the complexity involved in writing an actual playback program, they're more than happy to focus on DVD ripping instead of writing a player.
Yeah, they bought a spare service module from the Air Force for $150 million and abandonned it. Second rule of government spending: if you can't find outside solicitors, buy stuff from other divisions of yourself and complain about not being able to tax mail order catalogs.
What version of Adobe Premiere did you use for the video? I can't seem to get Win NT to run for more than a few minutes yet obviously Premiere is everyone's favorite.
Sounds like jumping from 32 to 64 bits caused a huge performance hit. If all they can do is run an MPEG-I player full screen with no audio, my Celeron 550 can do that. Why do you need 64 bits to run the same web server that runs just fine in 32 bits? Maybe if higher clock speeds were possible in 64 bits there would be some use in graphics, but Kurt said he only worked on graphics in 1994. Today he works on web servers. Graphics software is a worthless waste in today's industry. Intel isn't giving much of an incentive to upgrade the existing 32 bit credit card and web server software to 64 bits.
Seems like they're getting paranoid about Linux just like they did in 1997. Release another alpha of Microsoft Netshow to scare off the competition. Then abandon it for 3 years until someone starts threatening to release a competing product again. Don't see anyone threatening to release a competing product now however.
If the MPAA allows a binary player to have decrytion, the conspiracy theory goes out the window and kiss the deCSS source code goodbye. Proving that the MPAA wouldn't ban a Linux DVD player if one existed is exactly what the community wants to avoid.
I was never here and you never read this.
It seems like, with one of the primary arguments behind deCSS being the MPAA wanting to monopolize the DVD player market, that Linux hackers actually don't want a DVD player. If a binary Linux DVD player surfaced which supported decryption and the MPAA didn't ban it, that would show that the MPAA wasn't interested in monopolizing the market and be the end of deCSS source code. So we see a natural reaction: no Linux DVD players capable of decryption being mentioned anywhere or linked by anyone yet lots of argument that deCSS should be legal because if it was incorporated in some fictitious player that we don't want to mention, that the MPAA would surely ban it.
The problem is for a DVD decoder to really "exist" in the Linux world, it has to be compilable from the source code up, unlike the windows world where anything goes. Sure you can download a binary that plays encrypted DVD's for Linux but who wants to run anything you can't compile yourself?
I spent $200 on DVD drives and disks just because there was a decryption module for it. A person with my education has to work 3 hours to pay for 1 DVD and 2 days to pay for a DVD drive. For that kind of effort we should be allowed to play the DVD. The kids who use my software refuse to use anything they can't compile from the source code themselves. That means a lot of people aren't buying into this format who would if the source code was just legal.
After watching a complete movie in DVD, I'm never going to bother with VHS again. DVD truly is spectacular on a computer monitor. VHS is truly a colossal waste of time and money. When you get your graduation presents, make sure they have a DVD drive. You don't need a decoder, just download a software DVD player. I don't care what Linus/Transmeta says. A Linux box and a computer monitor will always have better color and resolution than any crummy appliance.
All we're doing is showing them that our user base isn't getting any older. It looks like there's a Linux guru in one of the dorms at Georgia Tech and every Spring semester they have a new group of users which wants to do something. Last year they had a shoutcast server. The problem is the users are only around for a couple years. People in that Georgia Tech club move out in June and they get replaced next year. Apple doesn't see the kind of user retention that you get from Windows users.
I used to use GQMpeg back when xmms crashed every 5 minutes. Then I used xmms briefly to listen to shoutcast, but never had a use for the visualization plugins. My biggest quandary was the number of buttons which give no indication of their function. Now I use Broadcast 2000 for everything. It's big and overkill but it's easy to use.
Most of the kids I'm contacted by think DVD's should be played using dedicated appliances and hardware decoders only. CmdrTaco uses a DVD appliance. VALinux uses WinNT.
The biggest argument is that deCSS was written to allow playback
on Linux yet the defending lawyer emphatically denies the existance of any player for DVD files on Linux.
The public interest in this case has not been about playing DVD's on Linux but individual freedom. That makes the argument as credible as wanting to drink under the age of 21. Face it. When you're a teenager you have no rights, but when you graduate from college you'll inevitably have more rights. How many Linux hackers do you run into who have graduated from college? So without any credibility behind the DVD argument, no DVD player, and no interest we can only expect a repeat of the Fraunhoffer Gmbh fiasco.
The kid is definitely too young to be prosecuted in an American court. Unfortunately, I'm too old to get away with these things without prosecution. I'm also no longer under the free legal protection and dependancy status that college students enjoy. Yet I've integrated decryption and decoding in one step.
.c file but distributing any of the decoder without that one file violates the GPL. Perhaps we could get a consensus on allowing a binary form of the decoder to be distributed with decryption. The we could agree on distributing the source code of everything but the one .c file.
DVD playback is only possible if you decrypt and decode in one step. You can't decrypt the entire DVD and play the files off your hard drive because it's too slow. You can't cat the decrypted data through UNIX pipes because this doesn't allow seeking.
So what I've done is integrated decryption in the DVD decoder but I'm not allowed to distribute it because that would violate the GPL and I'm too old to avoid prosecution. The only way for a person like me to distribute it is as a binary.
The decryption engine is just one
In other words. DVD playback is only possible if you build the decryption into the decoder. We can have a tarball containing everything but one decryption file and a binary player which decrypts on the fly but we need to resolve the GPL issue.
The joys of marriage. I have never seen a married couple which was happy. They work their asses off to appear happy but never are. For 4 years of engagement the wife has the whole patriarchy system structured like a swiss watch and the husband has spent 4 years of engagement trying to synthesize the financial resources of two. Then the certificate is signed, the husband continues to work like mad to impress the wife and provide, and the economy changes. One day the husband comes home with some bad news. The wife has to get a BSEE at the age of 40. The relationship goes down hill and it's another engineering student ranting about how life sucks da daaa.