"Throw out the first implementation" is not from Stroustroup, it's from Mythical Man-Month. I've read my one about a week ago last time, so I remember:)
Well, Metallica once were "rioters" too. So he probably would have his record company sue you, your computer maker and your elelctrical company for making MP3s of his sings. Am I over-cynical today?
Actually, I feel that THEF, if I understand it correct, is very nice idea. If what it does is really splitting message to bare-bones text and format information, than that's pretty smart. Your plain-old mail client reads ASCII, and your Advanced Bells-n-Whistles mail client, if you have one, reads also TNEF and draws fonts-colors-whatnot. Content/presentation separation, isn't it what we like to do?
Companies just don't want to pay them what they are worth.
Or they are thinking they are worth more that they really are. You know, getting MCSE paper won't make you a bit more of a good software engineer by itself, but you certainly will demand higher wage.
And maybe a programmer with 40-years COBOL experience is really not what the most companies want, as well as a programmer with 10-years Visual Basic experience. Or at least not what they are ready to pay additional big bucks for.
I guess the main intentive of this is to get rid of "network for copyright violation" stigma. So this is no more an app for sharing MP3s and warez, it's not Distributed Search Engine Platform. So you can now win those lawsuits to come, because Search Engine is good, while MP3 Sharing is bad (though the same thing is behind this, but most non-technical people never look behind the names).
Well, it might be close to impossible to _you_, but some people know to use rpmfind and rpmfind.net and gnorpm and whatever tool you like to do it. And I don't believe apt-get is going to find my.deb I rolled out just a hour ago. It's obviously one tool for one distribution with one central repository. Once you go out of this repository (and gnucash is obviously out of the RedHat) into the fields of wild - I doubt apt-get could be much of help to you, without strong effort of the packager.
Mostly, if you order from overseas and US supplier agrees to send them overseas, and agrees to accept non-US credit card - which is increasingly hard thing to find, last time i tried 80% of the shops refused to accept non-US credit card - when everything here is OK your send it by air post and hope nobody steals it in the way. You do it in any case, because if just shipping via UPS is going to cost you $100 starting price, what the heck you should buy so that it would prove itself? A car? A house?
And yes, there are places on this planet where people can't order things online from the US. You'll be terribly surprised, but they manage to live without that:)
That's plain simple. They want you to pay them three times for the same thing - once for TV show on the cable, once with the hidden fee in your VCR tapes and now once more for the right to record these shows on VCR. Why not, if they have the power? Give them more, and you'll be paying for advertisements they put inside, because this is copyrighted material, and you must pay for viewing it, other wise you'll be violating the copyright!
Well, you take certain risks. But most applications are pretty indifferent to the hardware, and (ideally) this is the only thing that VMware is different in. There could be bugs (and, actually, there were some nasty ones in VMware, and we reported them and they got fixed) - but this is your risks for uusing any software, and here you mostly base on previous users' and your expirience. Our experience is that whatever works on VMware (if you talk about hardware-indifferent high-level applications), wil work on the real iron. So far we weren't disappointed.
Imagine you need to port your product to all platforms running on i386 and test it. You should test on some 10 Linuxes (including 2-years old stock of all major distributions), on all BSDs, on Solaris x86. How many workstations you need to do this simultaneously? How convenient is to reboot them each time, to administrate them, etc.? How many time you waste on all those reboots? VMware is not for "Windows on Linux", it's for "many OSes on one hardware". And since current hardware reached the level that you can do this (if you don't intend to play Quake, just run some make's and gcc's), it's very good we have a product that does it.
Exactly the point. We are using VMware to do port of application on 4 platforms and test them on various Linux distributions, BSD's, etc. Also, to test new potentially harmful package, you just clone your VMwared redhat istallation, try it, if it breaks something you don't even need backups. In fact, we almost never run windows on our VMware installs, most of the time it's various BSDs and Linuxes and occasionally Solaris.
VMware is not just windows emulator. It's very convenient tool to run multiple OSes on signle hardware, and I must note it does it really well.
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Yeah, yeah - and besides that, it has lots of slashes and dots in it!
Doesn't the license there says in clause X that you can use GPL too? Here it goes:
X. In addition to what this Licence otherwise provides, the Software may be distributed in such a way as to be compliant with the GNU
General Public Licence, as published by the Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA, USA; version 2, or, at your option, any later version;
incorporated herein by reference. You must include a copy of this Licence with such distribution. Furthermore, patches sent to the
authors for the purpose of inclusion in the official release version are considered cleared for release under the full terms of this
Licence.
Don't they have it yet? That's a real shame. After all, they pay money, not? So why Coca-Cola can't have a small logo on that medals? What? Who told of olimpic spirit? What the hell, deCubertain's dreams are long dead, Coca-Cola rules the world.
Is this the thing called "alternative browser review"? They took 3 products, while one of them is just a skin over IE, and second of them runs only on Mac, and call this "alternative browsers review"? That's a real shame and a bad excuse for a review. Where's Mozilla, where's Konqueror, where's a ton of smaller products? OK, I know neither of them doesn't cut it (yet?), but something makes me to believe iCab doesn't do it too, so why they chose to review only two browsers, one of which I'll never get a chance to see anyway? Who needs such "reviews"?
Well, I somehow feel that having a stable distro with packages of half-year old is a bit pointless. That's not daily. Apache 1.3.12 was out in February - that's half a year ago. And 1.3.9 is a whole *year* old. Are you sure all the users want to use year-plus old software? And don't talk "unstable" - because when users come and say "your unstable doesn't work", developer's responce will be "that's what you expect from unstable, wait another year or two when Debian 2.3 is out or piss off". I don't really see a point in such release schedule. Why the heck you need that stable if it's so old you should upgrade to unstable anyway?
And then, why the heck should I believe that Debianers backporting 1.3.12 changes to 1.3.9 did better job than Apache developers that put it in 1.3.12? I see here only additional layer, meaning additional space for bugs.
Well, if it's so slow (seems to be inherent property of any SCO-made software), it should be named "waltz" or somthing like that, tarantella is pretty fast dance:)
Seems here's the time to take countermeasures. Like consumer boycott. Like "Burn a Sony product" days. If they are so arrogant to tell me they will invade my home to protect their revenue stream - well, they revenue stream doesn't come from my home anymore. There's a lot of non-Sony products, we can really live without a company that somehow got the idea it's a Big Brother.
Well, I don't see why technology used by law enforcement is so bad. After all, you should identify to them if they ask you to anyway, not? And matching glove left on the crime site doesn't seem to me particullary bad. So they'll nail the bastard, isn't that good? Maybe the next bastard won't do it then...
Also, do you want it or not, progress is not stoppable. If we say that when we battle RIAA over MP3 and MPAA over DVD, we should be ready to accept the consequences - that law enforcement would use this technologies too. Including voice recognition, smell matching, personal databases, etc. Nothing comes only with bright sides, technology included. What is right to do is not trying to get technology from the hands of law enforcement, but to get law enforcement more transparent and controlled by justice system (that's not easy to do while maintaining its effectiveness - but technology _is_ to help here).
Hey, that's an idea! But somewhere in my head suspicion grows that this is exactly the way some big software companies develop their buggy software. Maybe they even have patent on it as a "business method", someyhing like "Means and method to recruit unpaid workforce and make them solve our problems without even knowing they work for us".
Oh, well. You mighe be using my code just now even without knowing it (no, I won't tell you). And I don't understand the purpose of your flamebait. I said that programs should load instantly, not spend so much time that they need loading progress indicator. If they don't, you gotta change these programs or that hardware. If you disagree and ready to accept that you programs load times measure in tens of seconds to minutes - OK, but why GNOME should support this?
>a status indicator for the task bar to show when an application has completed loading
This, however, is nice...
Maybe I miss something, but doesn't the fact you consider this thing useful means you need to upgrade your computer/OS/windowing system/memory/all of the above? On my comp, applications load when I say them to load, and I have to time to stare on the taskbar and see "it isn't loaded yet... almost loaded... loaded but a small part... finally there!". I just press an icon and it's there.
Last time I looked (yesterday) Gnome taskbar displayed all open apps (given right options), on all virtual desktops. And it has some nice functions, like window operations on taskbar apps, mini-icons, variable or fixed size taskbar, ability to exclude windows from being seen at taskbar... And it is much more visual-appealing than KDEs (I didn't see 2.0, because it's not there yet).
Being participant of the open-source projects, I confirm this - thorough QA and attention to the "small details" is not the strongest part of Open Source (in general, there are very "polished" products too). The problem is that making all the tiny bits working 100% straight is damn boring, and the last 1% of is order of magnitude more boring. Like, you have dozens of great features waiting for you to implement them and you will spend three days trying to figure out why this Ctrl-Up-Arrow won't work with files of specific type? Not many defelopers are perfectionsts enough to do that.
But projects that have company behind them (like Eazel) should invest many effort in polishing and QA, because otherwise it will backfire monthes later and create impression of a product "nice, but not quite there". And thing thing gonna kill you - you cannot do nicer, because people already agreed you are nice, but not working with you because it's "not quite there", and movefrom there to "quite there" requires lot of effort.
There was an excellent sci-fi story about this concept, called Babylon-17 (not sure about the number, but not Babylon-5). There was the language (with the same name), which allowed one who thought in it to achive almost supernatural powers, but it enslaved the mind of one who was using it and made it controllable by the language creator. Pretty good sci-fi, too bad I've forgotten who wrote it.
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"Throw out the first implementation" is not from Stroustroup, it's from Mythical Man-Month. I've read my one about a week ago last time, so I remember :)
Well, Metallica once were "rioters" too. So he probably would have his record company sue you, your computer maker and your elelctrical company for making MP3s of his sings. Am I over-cynical today?
Actually, I feel that THEF, if I understand it correct, is very nice idea. If what it does is really splitting message to bare-bones text and format information, than that's pretty smart. Your plain-old mail client reads ASCII, and your Advanced Bells-n-Whistles mail client, if you have one, reads also TNEF and draws fonts-colors-whatnot. Content/presentation separation, isn't it what we like to do?
Companies just don't want to pay them what they are worth.
Or they are thinking they are worth more that they really are. You know, getting MCSE paper won't make you a bit more of a good software engineer by itself, but you certainly will demand higher wage.
And maybe a programmer with 40-years COBOL experience is really not what the most companies want, as well as a programmer with 10-years Visual Basic experience. Or at least not what they are ready to pay additional big bucks for.
I guess the main intentive of this is to get rid of "network for copyright violation" stigma. So this is no more an app for sharing MP3s and warez, it's not Distributed Search Engine Platform. So you can now win those lawsuits to come, because Search Engine is good, while MP3 Sharing is bad (though the same thing is behind this, but most non-technical people never look behind the names).
Well, it might be close to impossible to _you_, but some people know to use rpmfind and rpmfind.net and gnorpm and whatever tool you like to do it. And I don't believe apt-get is going to find my .deb I rolled out just a hour ago. It's obviously one tool for one distribution with one central repository. Once you go out of this repository (and gnucash is obviously out of the RedHat) into the fields of wild - I doubt apt-get could be much of help to you, without strong effort of the packager.
Mostly, if you order from overseas and US supplier agrees to send them overseas, and agrees to accept non-US credit card - which is increasingly hard thing to find, last time i tried 80% of the shops refused to accept non-US credit card - when everything here is OK your send it by air post and hope nobody steals it in the way. You do it in any case, because if just shipping via UPS is going to cost you $100 starting price, what the heck you should buy so that it would prove itself? A car? A house?
:)
And yes, there are places on this planet where people can't order things online from the US. You'll be terribly surprised, but they manage to live without that
That's plain simple. They want you to pay them three times for the same thing - once for TV show on the cable, once with the hidden fee in your VCR tapes and now once more for the right to record these shows on VCR. Why not, if they have the power? Give them more, and you'll be paying for advertisements they put inside, because this is copyrighted material, and you must pay for viewing it, other wise you'll be violating the copyright!
Well, you take certain risks. But most applications are pretty indifferent to the hardware, and (ideally) this is the only thing that VMware is different in. There could be bugs (and, actually, there were some nasty ones in VMware, and we reported them and they got fixed) - but this is your risks for uusing any software, and here you mostly base on previous users' and your expirience. Our experience is that whatever works on VMware (if you talk about hardware-indifferent high-level applications), wil work on the real iron. So far we weren't disappointed.
Imagine you need to port your product to all platforms running on i386 and test it. You should test on some 10 Linuxes (including 2-years old stock of all major distributions), on all BSDs, on Solaris x86. How many workstations you need to do this simultaneously? How convenient is to reboot them each time, to administrate them, etc.? How many time you waste on all those reboots? VMware is not for "Windows on Linux", it's for "many OSes on one hardware". And since current hardware reached the level that you can do this (if you don't intend to play Quake, just run some make's and gcc's), it's very good we have a product that does it.
Exactly the point. We are using VMware to do port of application on 4 platforms and test them on various Linux distributions, BSD's, etc. Also, to test new potentially harmful package, you just clone your VMwared redhat istallation, try it, if it breaks something you don't even need backups. In fact, we almost never run windows on our VMware installs, most of the time it's various BSDs and Linuxes and occasionally Solaris.
VMware is not just windows emulator. It's very convenient tool to run multiple OSes on signle hardware, and I must note it does it really well.
Yeah, yeah - and besides that, it has lots of slashes and dots in it!
Doesn't the license there says in clause X that you can use GPL too? Here it goes:
X. In addition to what this Licence otherwise provides, the Software may be distributed in such a way as to be compliant with the GNU
General Public Licence, as published by the Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA, USA; version 2, or, at your option, any later version;
incorporated herein by reference. You must include a copy of this Licence with such distribution. Furthermore, patches sent to the
authors for the purpose of inclusion in the official release version are considered cleared for release under the full terms of this
Licence.
Don't they have it yet? That's a real shame. After all, they pay money, not? So why Coca-Cola can't have a small logo on that medals? What? Who told of olimpic spirit? What the hell, deCubertain's dreams are long dead, Coca-Cola rules the world.
Is this the thing called "alternative browser review"? They took 3 products, while one of them is just a skin over IE, and second of them runs only on Mac, and call this "alternative browsers review"? That's a real shame and a bad excuse for a review. Where's Mozilla, where's Konqueror, where's a ton of smaller products? OK, I know neither of them doesn't cut it (yet?), but something makes me to believe iCab doesn't do it too, so why they chose to review only two browsers, one of which I'll never get a chance to see anyway? Who needs such "reviews"?
Well, I somehow feel that having a stable distro with packages of half-year old is a bit pointless. That's not daily. Apache 1.3.12 was out in February - that's half a year ago. And 1.3.9 is a whole *year* old. Are you sure all the users want to use year-plus old software? And don't talk "unstable" - because when users come and say "your unstable doesn't work", developer's responce will be "that's what you expect from unstable, wait another year or two when Debian 2.3 is out or piss off". I don't really see a point in such release schedule. Why the heck you need that stable if it's so old you should upgrade to unstable anyway?
And then, why the heck should I believe that Debianers backporting 1.3.12 changes to 1.3.9 did better job than Apache developers that put it in 1.3.12? I see here only additional layer, meaning additional space for bugs.
Well, if it's so slow (seems to be inherent property of any SCO-made software), it should be named "waltz" or somthing like that, tarantella is pretty fast dance :)
Seems here's the time to take countermeasures. Like consumer boycott. Like "Burn a Sony product" days. If they are so arrogant to tell me they will invade my home to protect their revenue stream - well, they revenue stream doesn't come from my home anymore. There's a lot of non-Sony products, we can really live without a company that somehow got the idea it's a Big Brother.
Well, I don't see why technology used by law enforcement is so bad. After all, you should identify to them if they ask you to anyway, not? And matching glove left on the crime site doesn't seem to me particullary bad. So they'll nail the bastard, isn't that good? Maybe the next bastard won't do it then...
Also, do you want it or not, progress is not stoppable. If we say that when we battle RIAA over MP3 and MPAA over DVD, we should be ready to accept the consequences - that law enforcement would use this technologies too. Including voice recognition, smell matching, personal databases, etc. Nothing comes only with bright sides, technology included. What is right to do is not trying to get technology from the hands of law enforcement, but to get law enforcement more transparent and controlled by justice system (that's not easy to do while maintaining its effectiveness - but technology _is_ to help here).
Hey, that's an idea! But somewhere in my head suspicion grows that this is exactly the way some big software companies develop their buggy software. Maybe they even have patent on it as a "business method", someyhing like "Means and method to recruit unpaid workforce and make them solve our problems without even knowing they work for us".
Oh, well. You mighe be using my code just now even without knowing it (no, I won't tell you). And I don't understand the purpose of your flamebait. I said that programs should load instantly, not spend so much time that they need loading progress indicator. If they don't, you gotta change these programs or that hardware. If you disagree and ready to accept that you programs load times measure in tens of seconds to minutes - OK, but why GNOME should support this?
>a status indicator for the task bar to show when an application has completed loading
This, however, is nice...
Maybe I miss something, but doesn't the fact you consider this thing useful means you need to upgrade your computer/OS/windowing system/memory/all of the above? On my comp, applications load when I say them to load, and I have to time to stare on the taskbar and see "it isn't loaded yet... almost loaded... loaded but a small part... finally there!". I just press an icon and it's there.
Last time I looked (yesterday) Gnome taskbar displayed all open apps (given right options), on all virtual desktops. And it has some nice functions, like window operations on taskbar apps, mini-icons, variable or fixed size taskbar, ability to exclude windows from being seen at taskbar... And it is much more visual-appealing than KDEs (I didn't see 2.0, because it's not there yet).
Being participant of the open-source projects, I confirm this - thorough QA and attention to the "small details" is not the strongest part of Open Source (in general, there are very "polished" products too). The problem is that making all the tiny bits working 100% straight is damn boring, and the last 1% of is order of magnitude more boring. Like, you have dozens of great features waiting for you to implement them and you will spend three days trying to figure out why this Ctrl-Up-Arrow won't work with files of specific type? Not many defelopers are perfectionsts enough to do that.
But projects that have company behind them (like Eazel) should invest many effort in polishing and QA, because otherwise it will backfire monthes later and create impression of a product "nice, but not quite there". And thing thing gonna kill you - you cannot do nicer, because people already agreed you are nice, but not working with you because it's "not quite there", and movefrom there to "quite there" requires lot of effort.
There was an excellent sci-fi story about this concept, called Babylon-17 (not sure about the number, but not Babylon-5). There was the language (with the same name), which allowed one who thought in it to achive almost supernatural powers, but it enslaved the mind of one who was using it and made it controllable by the language creator. Pretty good sci-fi, too bad I've forgotten who wrote it.