Uhh... one other thing. I should point out that I'm 33 and I still do open source work and stuff, and I don't expect to get paid for everything I do. It'll come back to me.
I'm not saying it's easy. But doing the not easy stuff is what differentiates one from the rest. At least in the beginning, who knows, you might have to sacrifice pay for experience. But the investment will pay back.
Unless your parents are abusive, they are only there to guide you - your motivation and your willingness to step out on your own to figure stuff out is what's going to really give you what you need. Ultimately, parents and teachers are only there to tell you how to stick your foot in the door. What happens once it's there is entirely up to you.
I don't think I'm saying this right. Oh well. It's Sunday.
But theyre not really children of the baby boomers, really. They're children of the children of the baby boomers. The children of the baby boomers gave us the financial debacles that we're only just now starting to realize the scope of. The children of the children of the baby boomers...
Well, let's just say that they're now in for a huge and shocking dose of reality. If you don't have some really impressive credentials at this point... lots of luck.
But you are doing exactly what the article predicts that you would do - it's everyone's fault but your own. Yes, yes, they do share blame, of course they do. And I know as much as anyone that children are not at truly fault for how they're raised. But at some point, it may be their fault - but placing blame really doesn't fix the situation. Only you can fix the situation, and it doesn't really matter whose fault it is.
I'm speaking as someone whose parents really messed him up in many different ways - but ultimately, they are not going to fix it, I have to. And placing blame really does nothing but remind me of the past, instead of looking to the future.
Put shortly and bluntly, who gives a fuck whose fault it is, I care more about what you do with your life and who you are *now*.:-)
No, you're missing the point. Yes, that is one value. But the popularity of an open source project is directly tied to its influence. If there are too many regressions like this which are incompetently handled, people will end up saying "fuck it" - and either fork the project or move off to something else entirely. Just because you volunteer your time doesn't mean you don't handle it professionally - these things reflect on you when it's time for the rubber to meet the road and you need to get paid sometime down the line. If you're unprofessional and handle these things stupidly, any decent employer will start to look a little askance at your ability to handle crises in a competent and confident manner.
Just because you're not getting paid for it doesn't mean your actions as a project developer/leader don't reflect on you professionally.
I admit to having screwed this up myself with a project I maintain - something I'm trying hard to rectify as we speak.
Flamebait? No, not flamebait. Allow me to clarify.
Fedora decided that they were going to ship KDE 4 before it was ready. I unfortunately decided to upgrade to Fedora 10. Half the features weren't there, it crashed randomly and had unexpected behaviors, and it was just unusable. I was pretty unhappy with the whole situation. Kmail still has a few regressions in it, the "system settings" is pretty unpolished, and they are still nowhere near the level of 3.5, even on 4.2. 4.2 has been the first release that's even remotely usable.
This gnome thing is just a small (incompetently handled) change in architecture that'll be fairly easily fixed. The KDE clusterfuck was on an entirely different level.
And I like KDE. I used to be a KDE devel. I just am very unhappy with how both they and Fedora handled it. Talk about a regression...
Not entirely true. I just switched back to Linux from windows for that very reason. After an upgrade, I lost networking for no reason. Took several reboots of boh the laptop and the wireless router to get it back.
At least with Linux you know the regression was likely intentional. Stupid, but intentional. The Windows folk just don't know what they're doing.
I hate to admit that you have a good point, but you do. My job was just to fix some ongoing issues with LDAP, to upgrade to the latest version, and rebuild everything so that it finally worked stably.
It took me two months and several missteps. And that was just moving from one version of FDS to another and fixing our broken setup.
If you're expecting to just drop something in, I promise it won't work.
Good luck? The man is a fucking murderer. I don't care if he's fucking Linux God and able to write programs just by looking at them, he's a despicable human being and deserves no luck at this point.
It makes me sad too, it makes me sad that he did it, it makes me sad that he thought he could get away with it, it makes me sad that he actually used the "I'm too smart to know what I did" defense, and now he's going to pay the price. I'm not sad for that.
And in fact asked the question "Is this just Microsoft doing the first stage of embrace, extend, extinguish?" I was not happy with his response. He floated the idea of merging the two standards, which really concerns me, and also seemed to acknowledge that there was going to be some extension.
From the impression I got, we got thrown a bone, and ODF and OOXML are going to be merged in the next couple of years, and MS will have de facto control because OOXML allows for proprietary extensions.
MS is not going to take this lying down.
I did shake Stuart's hand afterwards, however. He deserves props for showing up and taking a little abuse, although I was not near as hard on him as I would have liked to be, just because other people also deserved a chance to ask questions.
One thing that struck me is that one of the Singapore standards guys was there, and he was NOT happy. He was pretty pissed off that they could not provide even one reference implementation.
But... like I said. Props for showing up, MS. Now you just have many years of monopolistic behavior to live down, and I'll never trust anything you say again.
I find it amusing that most conspiracy theorists - whether the conspiracies are true or not is immaterial - tend to write long rambling screeds like that that cause people to lose interest after the first sentence, and then use that as proof that the world is against them.
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Uhh... one other thing. I should point out that I'm 33 and I still do open source work and stuff, and I don't expect to get paid for everything I do. It'll come back to me.
Open source? Internships?
I'm not saying it's easy. But doing the not easy stuff is what differentiates one from the rest. At least in the beginning, who knows, you might have to sacrifice pay for experience. But the investment will pay back.
Unless your parents are abusive, they are only there to guide you - your motivation and your willingness to step out on your own to figure stuff out is what's going to really give you what you need. Ultimately, parents and teachers are only there to tell you how to stick your foot in the door. What happens once it's there is entirely up to you.
I don't think I'm saying this right. Oh well. It's Sunday.
But theyre not really children of the baby boomers, really. They're children of the children of the baby boomers. The children of the baby boomers gave us the financial debacles that we're only just now starting to realize the scope of. The children of the children of the baby boomers...
Well, let's just say that they're now in for a huge and shocking dose of reality. If you don't have some really impressive credentials at this point... lots of luck.
But you are doing exactly what the article predicts that you would do - it's everyone's fault but your own. Yes, yes, they do share blame, of course they do. And I know as much as anyone that children are not at truly fault for how they're raised. But at some point, it may be their fault - but placing blame really doesn't fix the situation. Only you can fix the situation, and it doesn't really matter whose fault it is.
I'm speaking as someone whose parents really messed him up in many different ways - but ultimately, they are not going to fix it, I have to. And placing blame really does nothing but remind me of the past, instead of looking to the future.
Put shortly and bluntly, who gives a fuck whose fault it is, I care more about what you do with your life and who you are *now*. :-)
... until the bosses have the same mindset, at which point we're all screwed.
No, you're missing the point. Yes, that is one value. But the popularity of an open source project is directly tied to its influence. If there are too many regressions like this which are incompetently handled, people will end up saying "fuck it" - and either fork the project or move off to something else entirely. Just because you volunteer your time doesn't mean you don't handle it professionally - these things reflect on you when it's time for the rubber to meet the road and you need to get paid sometime down the line. If you're unprofessional and handle these things stupidly, any decent employer will start to look a little askance at your ability to handle crises in a competent and confident manner.
Just because you're not getting paid for it doesn't mean your actions as a project developer/leader don't reflect on you professionally.
I admit to having screwed this up myself with a project I maintain - something I'm trying hard to rectify as we speak.
Flamebait? No, not flamebait. Allow me to clarify.
Fedora decided that they were going to ship KDE 4 before it was ready. I unfortunately decided to upgrade to Fedora 10. Half the features weren't there, it crashed randomly and had unexpected behaviors, and it was just unusable. I was pretty unhappy with the whole situation. Kmail still has a few regressions in it, the "system settings" is pretty unpolished, and they are still nowhere near the level of 3.5, even on 4.2. 4.2 has been the first release that's even remotely usable.
This gnome thing is just a small (incompetently handled) change in architecture that'll be fairly easily fixed. The KDE clusterfuck was on an entirely different level.
And I like KDE. I used to be a KDE devel. I just am very unhappy with how both they and Fedora handled it. Talk about a regression...
Not entirely true. I just switched back to Linux from windows for that very reason. After an upgrade, I lost networking for no reason. Took several reboots of boh the laptop and the wireless router to get it back.
At least with Linux you know the regression was likely intentional. Stupid, but intentional. The Windows folk just don't know what they're doing.
There's KDE... oh wait. KDE 4? Fedora? Shipping a not feature complete, buggy, and unstable desktop environment on a major consumer distribution?
Nevermind. This was actually a minor regression compared to the KDE clusterfuck.
Hmm. That's sad.
And how would you know how a 3 year old asian boy is hung?
Something to think about.
And then they can measure the average amount of sperm created by the average human male.
The females can be the test subjects...
Now that's an inspiring project!
Build a gas turbine engine out of an old turbocharger.
Or if you want to go all out, have them fire up a GE90-115B. ;-)
That's a great idea. Have them try to figure out which post this was actually meant for. That oughta take about 72 man hours, give or take.
I hate to admit that you have a good point, but you do. My job was just to fix some ongoing issues with LDAP, to upgrade to the latest version, and rebuild everything so that it finally worked stably.
It took me two months and several missteps. And that was just moving from one version of FDS to another and fixing our broken setup.
If you're expecting to just drop something in, I promise it won't work.
I have used Fedora DS at work and it is OK. It is fairly stable when configured properly, and is mostly hands free once you get everything going.
"When configured properly" is the rub. You have to be very careful to watch your replication setup, and SSL is a bitch.
Don't bother springing for RedHat though. Their support is well-meaning but worthless.
Or the system shouldn't be designed by someone that isn't stable and sane.
"But we are not of Earth" and "Princes of Earth".
Nemesis by Isaac Asimov might be good but I doubt it.
Good luck? The man is a fucking murderer. I don't care if he's fucking Linux God and able to write programs just by looking at them, he's a despicable human being and deserves no luck at this point.
It makes me sad too, it makes me sad that he did it, it makes me sad that he thought he could get away with it, it makes me sad that he actually used the "I'm too smart to know what I did" defense, and now he's going to pay the price. I'm not sad for that.
This ain't no victimless crime.
That's correct.
er... I mean...
default.
Actually, in the session McKee said it will have an option to make ODF the default format. You just have to tell it to.
And in fact asked the question "Is this just Microsoft doing the first stage of embrace, extend, extinguish?" I was not happy with his response. He floated the idea of merging the two standards, which really concerns me, and also seemed to acknowledge that there was going to be some extension.
From the impression I got, we got thrown a bone, and ODF and OOXML are going to be merged in the next couple of years, and MS will have de facto control because OOXML allows for proprietary extensions.
MS is not going to take this lying down.
I did shake Stuart's hand afterwards, however. He deserves props for showing up and taking a little abuse, although I was not near as hard on him as I would have liked to be, just because other people also deserved a chance to ask questions.
One thing that struck me is that one of the Singapore standards guys was there, and he was NOT happy. He was pretty pissed off that they could not provide even one reference implementation.
But... like I said. Props for showing up, MS. Now you just have many years of monopolistic behavior to live down, and I'll never trust anything you say again.
I find it amusing that most conspiracy theorists - whether the conspiracies are true or not is immaterial - tend to write long rambling screeds like that that cause people to lose interest after the first sentence, and then use that as proof that the world is against them.
It's all about the packaging.
What the HELL are you going on about?
How about a whole site full of them?.
Or maybe you can tell her off yourself.
Huh. I think someone just had an accident outside my apartment.
and why did that laptop just come flying through the window?
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