The thing is dont licenses only apply to distribution? Couldnt somebody make a zfs4linux patchset that users are free to download and compile, just not to give to anybody else? I suppose none of the distros would see it as worth it as they cant claim ZFS support. For home users the situations would be a lot like proprietary drivers, distros could even include ZFS installer tools to make it easy.
Sun dont consider BSD and Apple competitors in whatever market they are going for, that's why they didn't choose a license that is incompatible with BSD.
The difference is they would actually have a leg to stand on (they actually own the patents, ( you'd think you'd get your lawyers to actually check that before you sue somebody btw))
However it would still go fairly badly for them, i guess the linux kernel devs just dont want to risk it:(
ZFS doesnt offer me anything as im not managing servers Dtrace doesnt offer me anything as im not a developer SMF doesnt offer me anything i cant do with startup IPS doesnt seam any better than deb or rpm
If as a lot of people claim one of the main bariers to linux use is that nobody even knows about it, then 'netbooks' , andriod & ubuntu are going doing a hell of a lot to fix that.
Once people know about & are familiar with linux thats leaves us with: Interoperability (this ones pretty much solved tbh) Pre-installed OEMs (well dells got our back here) Hardware support (getting better) Coherent Interface (hmm i cant actually see this getting fixed) Lack of proprietary software To sort out.
They all use standards just not the same ones, they are interoperable though! RPM -> Deb , no problems A alpha/Beta is still a alpha/Beta a.0 is still a release and a.1 is still an SP1, what more info do you want from a version number.
I think challenges like efficient voice commands, Unfortunatly if you try using voice commands in crowded areas/trains youll end up with plenty of spam.
even brain waves (aka NIA) Unfortunatly i dont want to actually load up porn every 6 seconds, if the computer was reading my brainwaves i would never get any work done, check slashdot,XKCD,forums,pron o wait it doesnt even need to read my mind.
I think the trick is to cross bread them with phones, youll end up with something like the N810, but hopefully bigger so the keyboard is usable while loosing the requirement of a surface to use them on (plus in small areas you can fall back on touchscreen). I think the actual problem with the current generation is battery life, to be truly portable they need LED backlighting, and longer lasting batteries, preferably with external chargers so you can take a few with you for longer trips.
However, there will be little to no wifi for him to he hoping on. why not just get a wifi router, they dont cost much these days. Alternatively expose him to aircrack-ng (http://xkcd.com/416/)
However if its not really going to be used as an ultraportable, then why not stick a cheap desktop together as for about the price of an EEE you can build a low spec desktop than can be built upon at a later date, ( e.g if he moves on to compiled languages).
They've removed lot's of sites from the Great Firewall of China, for instance the English Wikipedia, after western politicians said that a change like that would reflect well upon China. They've let western journalists go to many places they can't normally go to Given that the average Chinese person cant read English, its really useful to unblock the English wikipeida, I mean seriously do you think this was anything other than a political stunt.
Today, many European countries (including mine, Sweden) have governmentally blessed internet blocklists that are far longer than the Chinese one. Really last time i checked the swedish blocklist was against racist sites, and wasnt nearly as big as the chinese one, but maybe im just more of a fan of facts than you.
just to beat up a girl in a wheelchair Yeah i always confuse grabbing stuff and beating somebody up? OH wait no, taking a torch from somebody != beating up. The protestores who got too close to chinese thugs got spat on, pushed & shoved, but even from the Chinese i didn't see any 'beating up'.
Something that is never good, and would hurt the Chinese process towards giving the people a decent standard of living, freedom of speech, and, eventually, democracy. Yeah i heard freedom of speech always stops freedom of speech.
Yeah or have all their system setup with openDNS and proxies to avoid the firewall, as has been stated many times avoiding the firewall is about as difficult as geting around your school firewall!
Why, the whole Olympics is a political thing, 1990 was the first modern olympic games without anybody not-turning up through protest. Most of the modern Olympic games symbolism is from the 1936 games (a.k.a Hitler propaganda stunt)
Politics & International competitions never have, are not and never will be separate.
Come on bush just grow the balls that Starkozy & even Brown have got and dont turn up to the opening ceremony.
I cant say I read TFA but i have to say that because of its stated goals it was fairly pointless to anybody whos already on linux. Ubuntu (and to a greater extent mint) are aimed at being trouble free, transition distros, the thing is ive already transitioned.
Id like to see a comparision of linux distros for people like me: We're already on linux We have a basic idea of the command line We know some of the more important/etc/ files We dont mind fiddling about to get stuff working Which distro will suit us best? (I suspect there maybe 2 answers 1 for stability & 1 for cutting edge)
In fairness i think i have a fairly good list (arch,debian,just tweaking ubuntu,fedora) and when i get a spare moment im going to install a few and try them out, but it would be nice to see a few different comparisons instead of yet another report saying that ubuntu is the best distro for new users.
Id also ask for a report for which is best for an experienced linux user, but in fairness that will simply become a flame war and any user whos experienced will be able to get similar results with any distro.
apt-get install kontact/evolution/icedove the guide is just if your doing things the old schoolway, e.g seperate MUA,MTA,MDA
Ive never used debian but AFAIK sidux is just as usable as ubuntu or mint Although on the grounds they tested them, basically how well they perform out of the box, debian wouldn't of been great. Mint OTOH would have done better than ubuntu
I find that it's as wise to wait for stability in an Ubuntu release as it is with an MS Windows release. The difference is that stability comes to Ubuntu faster. (o:
I will give Heron a month or two to settle down and then switch. Wait so your saying its best to wait for SP1, before relying on the operating system. That sir is crazy talk everybody knows that nothing ever goes wrong as long as you start with the alphas.
But say you had some sort of huge filtering mechanism, for arguments sake lets call it a "great firewall", wouldn't it be easy to stop outgoing attacks?
As much as google bashing is the new thing around here, my yahoo spambox has : 1337 my personal email had: 1 Much like security, if you dont do anything with your email address you dont get any spam. So if you use your gmail account for everything you will get a lot of spam, same goes for any email.
1+(-1) = 0 If we bash there lies then the two should cancel out, unfortunately 1) they're bigger than us 2) this article is preaching to the MS bashing choir, if you want to cancel out their fud you have to buy the same adspots they do, fight them were they fight. If anybody on/. is using MS its due to an informed decision, not some MS bull, so your not going convert anybody posting here. (maybe digg, has a few suckers who fall for MS bull) But most likely you have to buy some ads at PHB.com or preconfiguredservers.com
mod parent up, google has become a verb meaning to "search for", i only saw 2 paid for ads and they were both for google. OTOH maybe their competitors dont advertise with google.
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The thing is dont licenses only apply to distribution?
Couldnt somebody make a zfs4linux patchset that users are free to download and compile, just not to give to anybody else?
I suppose none of the distros would see it as worth it as they cant claim ZFS support. For home users the situations would be a lot like proprietary drivers, distros could even include ZFS installer tools to make it easy.
Sun dont consider BSD and Apple competitors in whatever market they are going for, that's why they didn't choose a license that is incompatible with BSD.
The difference is they would actually have a leg to stand on (they actually own the patents, ( you'd think you'd get your lawyers to actually check that before you sue somebody btw))
:(
However it would still go fairly badly for them, i guess the linux kernel devs just dont want to risk it
Shhh AC your just jealous cuz you didn't get 1st post with some troll link. :P
ZFS doesnt offer me anything as im not managing servers
Dtrace doesnt offer me anything as im not a developer
SMF doesnt offer me anything i cant do with startup
IPS doesnt seam any better than deb or rpm
Is there any reason to switch?
If as a lot of people claim one of the main bariers to linux use is that nobody even knows about it, then 'netbooks' , andriod & ubuntu are going doing a hell of a lot to fix that.
Once people know about & are familiar with linux thats leaves us with:
Interoperability (this ones pretty much solved tbh)
Pre-installed OEMs (well dells got our back here)
Hardware support (getting better)
Coherent Interface (hmm i cant actually see this getting fixed)
Lack of proprietary software
To sort out.
They all use standards just not the same ones, they are interoperable though! .0 is still a release and a .1 is still an SP1, what more info do you want from a version number.
RPM -> Deb , no problems
A alpha/Beta is still a alpha/Beta a
other than:
Being cheaper
Running Java
Running Flash
Having a full keyboard to type comments
I think the trick is to cross bread them with phones, youll end up with something like the N810, but hopefully bigger so the keyboard is usable while loosing the requirement of a surface to use them on (plus in small areas you can fall back on touchscreen).
I think the actual problem with the current generation is battery life, to be truly portable they need LED backlighting, and longer lasting batteries, preferably with external chargers so you can take a few with you for longer trips.
Alternatively expose him to aircrack-ng (http://xkcd.com/416/)
However if its not really going to be used as an ultraportable, then why not stick a cheap desktop together as for about the price of an EEE you can build a low spec desktop than can be built upon at a later date, ( e.g if he moves on to compiled languages).
"Yeah the freedom of speech is in the mail guys"
"trust me, dude"
"what happened the US used to be cool"
Yeah or have all their system setup with openDNS and proxies to avoid the firewall, as has been stated many times avoiding the firewall is about as difficult as geting around your school firewall!
So it was still THEIR Feudal Theocracy! And as Feudal theocracies go it was much better at human rights than say erm...CHINA
Why, the whole Olympics is a political thing, 1990 was the first modern olympic games without anybody not-turning up through protest. Most of the modern Olympic games symbolism is from the 1936 games (a.k.a Hitler propaganda stunt)
Politics & International competitions never have, are not and never will be separate.
Come on bush just grow the balls that Starkozy & even Brown have got and dont turn up to the opening ceremony.
I cant say I read TFA but i have to say that because of its stated goals it was fairly pointless to anybody whos already on linux. Ubuntu (and to a greater extent mint) are aimed at being trouble free, transition distros, the thing is ive already transitioned.
/etc/ files
Id like to see a comparision of linux distros for people like me:
We're already on linux
We have a basic idea of the command line
We know some of the more important
We dont mind fiddling about to get stuff working
Which distro will suit us best?
(I suspect there maybe 2 answers 1 for stability & 1 for cutting edge)
In fairness i think i have a fairly good list (arch,debian,just tweaking ubuntu,fedora) and when i get a spare moment im going to install a few and try them out, but it would be nice to see a few different comparisons instead of yet another report saying that ubuntu is the best distro for new users.
Id also ask for a report for which is best for an experienced linux user, but in fairness that will simply become a flame war and any user whos experienced will be able to get similar results with any distro.
apt-get install kontact/evolution/icedove
the guide is just if your doing things the old schoolway, e.g seperate MUA,MTA,MDA
Ive never used debian but AFAIK sidux is just as usable as ubuntu or mint
Although on the grounds they tested them, basically how well they perform out of the box, debian wouldn't of been great. Mint OTOH would have done better than ubuntu
I will give Heron a month or two to settle down and then switch. Wait so your saying its best to wait for SP1, before relying on the operating system. That sir is crazy talk everybody knows that nothing ever goes wrong as long as you start with the alphas.
More importantly how are they going to re-license their windows key if the call centre is down?
But say you had some sort of huge filtering mechanism, for arguments sake lets call it a "great firewall", wouldn't it be easy to stop outgoing attacks?
As much as google bashing is the new thing around here,
my yahoo spambox has : 1337
my personal email had: 1
Much like security, if you dont do anything with your email address you dont get any spam.
So if you use your gmail account for everything you will get a lot of spam, same goes for any email.
1+(-1) = 0 /. is using MS its due to an informed decision, not some MS bull, so your not going convert anybody posting here. (maybe digg, has a few suckers who fall for MS bull) But most likely you have to buy some ads at PHB.com or preconfiguredservers.com
If we bash there lies then the two should cancel out, unfortunately
1) they're bigger than us
2) this article is preaching to the MS bashing choir, if you want to cancel out their fud you have to buy the same adspots they do, fight them were they fight. If anybody on
mod parent up, google has become a verb meaning to "search for", i only saw 2 paid for ads and they were both for google. OTOH maybe their competitors dont advertise with google.
Its true particularly true for google/youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H8hWIGv5L0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIVOZB2K6Y0
but i suppose its because of thier impending lawsuit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpqgWW0z7vM
The more FOSS software out there the less piracy, the smaller the place for these goons, ever wonderd why there isnt much server piracy?