As a person who has worked in semiconductors since the first SSI 7400 , I can say for certain that many things have been done and there are some really talented people who can do things that -almost- defy reason. I know that engineers put their own little signatures in ASICs and that some engineers are far more competent than can be understood by most. I have seen many circuits that were situationally controlled or externally controlled by means that would not be obvious without an understanding of the physics, electromagnetic conditions, and software. It can even be done at the layout level. Early CMOS was notoriously susceptible to EM induction. I have seen a board that used an unconnected trace to an input pin used as an RC circuit.
The greatest problem that I see in this type of behavior is that it assumes perfect security and there is no such thing. If you put a means to invade or disable systems in all products, you are hurting every individual and business. If you also create a system where people cannot verify your identity as a secret police without committing a crime, you have created a back door in the social engineering realm. If I am party to a security request, I then know what documents, methods and verifications are being used and thus it can be used as a spoof attack on anybody else with little chance of discovery.
I would not be the least bit surprised if it was discovered that IBM, INTEL, Motorola, and others were subjected to this same security theater. The problem with hardware is that once the flaw becomes exposed and if it is bad enough, the entire system must be replaced. It is rational to have different circuitry for military applications, but when it creeps into consumer and business products it is wrong in many ways and though the intent may be for the military to do what it thinks will solve -their- problem, without oversight it becomes paradoxical and if they destroy the means to do business and make profit through their tampering, then it is full circle and the funds and efforts that support the government and military are damaged.
The problem is in oversight, defence must be limited in its scope of action. Isn't this what all the fuss is about with Syria and Iraq? The convential military action is assumed to have overstepped the boundaries into what is consired socially acceptable and this NSA condition is no different. It is a failure in leadership and oversight that offends the sensibilities. Nazi Germany had a very effective military and it would have been a non-issue if they had been guided by people with empathy and reason.
Say what!? Optical inspection at 14 nanometers? Did I miss a memo or something?
I am a planarian and I -am- immortal you insensitive clod! I remember the Mesoproterozoic Era, the times we had. I guess I will be 1.7 billion years old this year, but it seems like yesterday. I have this AI to help me post on slashdot, and they relaxed the rules a bit because of my age. But I am the one that spawned the original line and I have my original brain which has been active for nigh on a billion years, so now get off my bacterial lawn.
I attribute my great age to proper eating habits as I only eat free range organic protozoa and keep kosher.
I think you totally missed the point, it is to prolong the life of yeast so that it can make twice as much beer because who wants to live when the beer is gone anyway?:)
Unfortunately, defense and the NSA budgets together are dwarfed by social security.
The NSA won't bankrupt the country for at least a couple of years, and certainly not until the social security problem has been solved.
Do we even really need an NSA?
I was forced to pay social security as were my children and my children's children. They said we are to be trusted to take that money and save and grow it for our well being to make our lives comfortable in our declining years. They are about as trustworthy as the banks. It is merely one more symptom of problem that something that was to accrue value has become something that bleeds enough interest in a year to feed the entire population of a country. Let's see 16,000,000,000,000 * 0.04 = 640,000,000,000. If my math is correct, that is 640 billion dollars a year at 4%, but heck, they can just print more money.
It would seem to me that they would have to get nearly a trillion dollars every year just to pay the vig on our pawned country. If they were really worried about the ability of the nation to survive they wouldn't be monitoring how many Lol cat videos my daughter watches, but how the hell they are going to pay Vito when he comes to recover his principal. Which I think is a bit funny, that the name of a mafia boss is derived from vitus ( life giver ) and that is pretty much the opposite of their business engagement policy.:)
So, just the interest is about $100 for every person on the planet. This isn't comedic or even tragic, it is like some dystopian science fiction nightmare. I am ill suited to be an accountant, but even I can see the once proud eagle isn't going to strutting very long carrying that kind of weight.
Need the NSA?, Hell, at this point I am not sure we even need the government as they are the one creating the problem. Why are they still drawing a regular paycheck?
It is an effective model that others have followed sucessfuly. Insert yourself between the consumer and producer ( retail ) and take a share, then you have money for nothing. Is Master Card a currency? It is possible to establish a currency without state support, but that is how they make sure they get their cut. Whether it is fair or not to allow a state to siphon off value by printing money or not, it still remains that they will criminalize any behavior that would reduce that control.
PayPal is another example, as well as others who have taken on the task of siphoning off a share of every transaction. I would guess they are stuffing money in the pockets of lobbysist like crazy, while bitcoin is not. It isn''t a dominant strategy, it is very much like an overly complicated barter scheme and companies pay too much to maintain their position at the public trough to allow any freeloaders on their freeloading .
Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.
It was a good tactic in the American revolution against the British and seems to work just as well now.
--sheeple analogy--
Sheeple dog guards the sheeple, wolves put on sheeple suits and attack the dog, dog gets frienzied and starts attacking the sheeple, dog runs crazy until it is worn out, Wolves finish off the half dead dog and it is dinner time.
1. Incite madness
2. Wait for them to get tired
3. Profit!
If you watch a nature show about wolves hunting herbivores, even the stupidest wolf knows this.
Classic military blunder.
In all this discussion I have yet to see the real problem addressed. Like so many military adventures in the past, the people who create and operate the process assume that there are unlimited funds to operate and that somebody else is handling the finance of the process to make it profitable for the state. There are not unlimited funds to purchase and maintain computers and in fact they have already gone trillions of dollars in debt because somebody failed to do their job and say "It might be useful to have an omniscient avenging angel, but what is the cost and can we afford it or maintain it?" I think this is what happened to England's empire, WWII Germans in Russia, USSR in the 1980s, Napoleon... Adventurism has a price and the military is being myopic and self destructive, if they strip the economy and all good will to fit themselves with Iron Man armor, they will fail. It is a self correcting problem, when the cost exceeds resources. They are very clever idiots if they fail to realize that. The abuse of resources will have exactly the opposite effect from what they think they are doing. In the end they will be considering how to defend a nation that depends on them to be strong, with pocket knives and strategy planned on PostIt notes.
The problem I see is that this will end and there will be a vacuum and collapse. Then we will be left to defend ourselves against nations who understand restraint.
Like a trusty guard dog given a very long chain, he may not realize in his forward rush to defend, that it has a finite length.
The more you taunt them , the faster they charge. It is the dog's owner that is the problem, not them.
That reflects something that I pondered. In terms of neural networks and the ability to recognize familiar things. The action of recognizing could be a composite of those people you have become familar with. In other words, a person could see someone and assign them for recognition by the similarity of their traits to others that are already impressed on their brain such that they would be 10 percent like my cousin, have a nose like my brother, walk ike my sister, etc. So in the same way that people communicate in the language they learn as a child, they can only recognize based on the visual clues that act as a type of hidden language of form, action, and appearance.
People of similar genotypes would naturally have similar recognizable features and people who share culture would have the similar and understandle behavior and speech.
I aree with some other poster that everybody shares similar DNA, it just depends on how similar you want to get since some genetic sequences are conserved across a vast range of genotypes / phenotypes and even extend to single cell organisms, I am certain that all organisms share most of the tRNA molecules and rRNA structure.
So people like to be in familiar surroundings because it reduces the stress of dealing with unfamiliar environments.
That explains the DARPA contract for $0.65 that was let to secure the federal data bases and diplomatic cables.
As far as privacy goes for any data including SSN, I think that boat sailed long ago.
It depends on who is collecting the data and how much processing power they have. I would imagine that various governments have massive exclusionary data bases on people in their country as well as others. If every body else but me is in the data base, it isn't too difficult to figure out the missing data.
I spoke to the devs and they say that violent video games will not change their code. In fact, they will continue to make Empathy the best IM client they can, even if it is used to coordinate attacks in WoW.
I want a printer that prints a person from stem cells that can design a skin cell printer.
Perhaps if you include the HOX proteins in a separate "color" cartridge you could print random critters.
I agree it is not science since there is no observable, but as the GP says, it doesn't hurt to consider things that might spark imagination. I can think of conjoined multiverses that act in the same way as something like a DNA with a SNP that happens 1 in 4 billion and the reverse SNP that happens 1:16 billon billion creating the same universe with two paths to the same point. I think the book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_of_the_Imperium among others considered the subject long ago.
This multiverse is so pedantic.
So I suppose next we might find a tunnel that is one mile down and 40 miles under the border to breach the "castle walls" of the united states?
I was thinking more along the lines of a pack rat with a stomach full of packages as a drug mule. Wow, that is an odd combination of analogies once written. Of course the droppings might rat them out.
Actually the Japanese robots going to the moon are techno-bigots and want phones called Android. No self respecting robot would use an iPhone, unless it was called I_Robot_Phone.
It is worse than that.
One of 500,000,000 threads on the Intertubes.
void CyberAttackInit(char *Target){
bool Attacked;
if (httpTraffic>1000){Attacked=TRUE;}
if (Attacked==TRUE){attackAllAttackers();}
}
I would guess that it would go from one attack or mistake to a deadlock in nanoseconds. It wouldn't end until somebody burned up or hit a bandwidth limit. One person could set off the entire internet in a single prompt critical. We should really create more situations like this that can be memorialized like the Morris worm.
damn, it won't compile with -Wall -Werror
This makes me wonder about an economy that takes biological material and uses it to fuel inanimate extension and use.
It seems a little like the Matrix, where people are just biofuel for the machines. Since we have IBM Watson , bot nets, robots that kill, and drones that can operate independently, the Terminators need a continuous fuel supply to eradicate the last of those pests that infect their energy chain.
-- John Connor
There is an open source project to go to the moon as well as Google funded x-prize and it seems reasonable that if one was to land a robot on the moon that having a power source that could support two way communication and a means to reload a robot's microcode via that link, that it would be more effective and if properly designed could support self manufacturing similar to some RepRap like circular process or the fact that a lathe can be used to create a lathe. I will probably look into the liquid-gas phase relationships of some common gases and the effectiveness of a permanent magnet inside a magnetic enclosure that functioned as a reverse rail gun to produce energy. It sounds like a fun thing to do as an exercise in mechanics. I would think that having little robots driven by a TCP/IP link and with their own IPV6 addresses that it would be a great VR game that people would pay to play and might even make a profit mining for He3. It would seem that many people will mine imaginary materials in games.
<humor>
I am assuming that the "h and a" somehow represent an genetic sequence in the form GCAT in a binary form where ha=10 ah=01 and that this is the microcode implementation vector whose phenotype calculates the navier-stokes, the energy transfer of a spherical permanent magnet, the temperature difference and energy transfer using Fourier as well as the analysis of a Carnot engine cycle. I must also assume that the no. represents the number output, which if I read correctly is 10101010011010011010 and is 698010.
</humor>
Perhaps I am mistaken.
The sine rule does not apply. You make the assumption that it would facing upward and it does apply on the surface area to irradiation on Earth because the surface is of course at an angle to the sun but a solar panel pointing at the sun is face on as an example. As far as the economic feasibility it depends on the ability to move material without great cost and that has nothing to do with a moon engine. There is an open source project to go to the moon.
It would seem that the dark and light sides of the moon comprises a heat engine. For example, a tube which was placed about the pole and filled with gas, would expand in areas exposed to the sun and contract away from the sun in a continuous cycle, much like the engine that powers the Earths weather.
It would this would be extensible and provide the local energy by turbine to operate some robotic process.
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As a person who has worked in semiconductors since the first SSI 7400 , I can say for certain that many things have been done and there are some really talented people who can do things that -almost- defy reason. I know that engineers put their own little signatures in ASICs and that some engineers are far more competent than can be understood by most. I have seen many circuits that were situationally controlled or externally controlled by means that would not be obvious without an understanding of the physics, electromagnetic conditions, and software. It can even be done at the layout level. Early CMOS was notoriously susceptible to EM induction. I have seen a board that used an unconnected trace to an input pin used as an RC circuit.
The greatest problem that I see in this type of behavior is that it assumes perfect security and there is no such thing. If you put a means to invade or disable systems in all products, you are hurting every individual and business. If you also create a system where people cannot verify your identity as a secret police without committing a crime, you have created a back door in the social engineering realm. If I am party to a security request, I then know what documents, methods and verifications are being used and thus it can be used as a spoof attack on anybody else with little chance of discovery.
I would not be the least bit surprised if it was discovered that IBM, INTEL, Motorola, and others were subjected to this same security theater. The problem with hardware is that once the flaw becomes exposed and if it is bad enough, the entire system must be replaced. It is rational to have different circuitry for military applications, but when it creeps into consumer and business products it is wrong in many ways and though the intent may be for the military to do what it thinks will solve -their- problem, without oversight it becomes paradoxical and if they destroy the means to do business and make profit through their tampering, then it is full circle and the funds and efforts that support the government and military are damaged.
The problem is in oversight, defence must be limited in its scope of action. Isn't this what all the fuss is about with Syria and Iraq? The convential military action is assumed to have overstepped the boundaries into what is consired socially acceptable and this NSA condition is no different. It is a failure in leadership and oversight that offends the sensibilities. Nazi Germany had a very effective military and it would have been a non-issue if they had been guided by people with empathy and reason.
Say what!? Optical inspection at 14 nanometers? Did I miss a memo or something?
I am a planarian and I -am- immortal you insensitive clod! I remember the Mesoproterozoic Era, the times we had. I guess I will be 1.7 billion years old this year, but it seems like yesterday. I have this AI to help me post on slashdot, and they relaxed the rules a bit because of my age. But I am the one that spawned the original line and I have my original brain which has been active for nigh on a billion years, so now get off my bacterial lawn. I attribute my great age to proper eating habits as I only eat free range organic protozoa and keep kosher.
I think you totally missed the point, it is to prolong the life of yeast so that it can make twice as much beer because who wants to live when the beer is gone anyway? :)
Unfortunately, defense and the NSA budgets together are dwarfed by social security. The NSA won't bankrupt the country for at least a couple of years, and certainly not until the social security problem has been solved. Do we even really need an NSA?
I was forced to pay social security as were my children and my children's children. They said we are to be trusted to take that money and save and grow it for our well being to make our lives comfortable in our declining years. They are about as trustworthy as the banks. It is merely one more symptom of problem that something that was to accrue value has become something that bleeds enough interest in a year to feed the entire population of a country. Let's see 16,000,000,000,000 * 0.04 = 640,000,000,000. If my math is correct, that is 640 billion dollars a year at 4%, but heck, they can just print more money. :)
It would seem to me that they would have to get nearly a trillion dollars every year just to pay the vig on our pawned country. If they were really worried about the ability of the nation to survive they wouldn't be monitoring how many Lol cat videos my daughter watches, but how the hell they are going to pay Vito when he comes to recover his principal. Which I think is a bit funny, that the name of a mafia boss is derived from vitus ( life giver ) and that is pretty much the opposite of their business engagement policy.
So, just the interest is about $100 for every person on the planet. This isn't comedic or even tragic, it is like some dystopian science fiction nightmare. I am ill suited to be an accountant, but even I can see the once proud eagle isn't going to strutting very long carrying that kind of weight.
Need the NSA?, Hell, at this point I am not sure we even need the government as they are the one creating the problem. Why are they still drawing a regular paycheck?
It is an effective model that others have followed sucessfuly. Insert yourself between the consumer and producer ( retail ) and take a share, then you have money for nothing. Is Master Card a currency? It is possible to establish a currency without state support, but that is how they make sure they get their cut. Whether it is fair or not to allow a state to siphon off value by printing money or not, it still remains that they will criminalize any behavior that would reduce that control. PayPal is another example, as well as others who have taken on the task of siphoning off a share of every transaction. I would guess they are stuffing money in the pockets of lobbysist like crazy, while bitcoin is not. It isn''t a dominant strategy, it is very much like an overly complicated barter scheme and companies pay too much to maintain their position at the public trough to allow any freeloaders on their freeloading .
Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.
It was a good tactic in the American revolution against the British and seems to work just as well now.
--sheeple analogy--
Sheeple dog guards the sheeple, wolves put on sheeple suits and attack the dog, dog gets frienzied and starts attacking the sheeple, dog runs crazy until it is worn out, Wolves finish off the half dead dog and it is dinner time.
1. Incite madness
2. Wait for them to get tired
3. Profit!
If you watch a nature show about wolves hunting herbivores, even the stupidest wolf knows this.
Classic military blunder.
In all this discussion I have yet to see the real problem addressed. Like so many military adventures in the past, the people who create and operate the process assume that there are unlimited funds to operate and that somebody else is handling the finance of the process to make it profitable for the state. There are not unlimited funds to purchase and maintain computers and in fact they have already gone trillions of dollars in debt because somebody failed to do their job and say "It might be useful to have an omniscient avenging angel, but what is the cost and can we afford it or maintain it?" I think this is what happened to England's empire, WWII Germans in Russia, USSR in the 1980s, Napoleon... Adventurism has a price and the military is being myopic and self destructive, if they strip the economy and all good will to fit themselves with Iron Man armor, they will fail. It is a self correcting problem, when the cost exceeds resources. They are very clever idiots if they fail to realize that. The abuse of resources will have exactly the opposite effect from what they think they are doing. In the end they will be considering how to defend a nation that depends on them to be strong, with pocket knives and strategy planned on PostIt notes. The problem I see is that this will end and there will be a vacuum and collapse. Then we will be left to defend ourselves against nations who understand restraint.
Like a trusty guard dog given a very long chain, he may not realize in his forward rush to defend, that it has a finite length.
The more you taunt them , the faster they charge. It is the dog's owner that is the problem, not them.
That reflects something that I pondered. In terms of neural networks and the ability to recognize familiar things. The action of recognizing could be a composite of those people you have become familar with. In other words, a person could see someone and assign them for recognition by the similarity of their traits to others that are already impressed on their brain such that they would be 10 percent like my cousin, have a nose like my brother, walk ike my sister, etc. So in the same way that people communicate in the language they learn as a child, they can only recognize based on the visual clues that act as a type of hidden language of form, action, and appearance. People of similar genotypes would naturally have similar recognizable features and people who share culture would have the similar and understandle behavior and speech. I aree with some other poster that everybody shares similar DNA, it just depends on how similar you want to get since some genetic sequences are conserved across a vast range of genotypes / phenotypes and even extend to single cell organisms, I am certain that all organisms share most of the tRNA molecules and rRNA structure. So people like to be in familiar surroundings because it reduces the stress of dealing with unfamiliar environments.
Valence 4. I would assume Germainiumicene will be the next with a band gap of .67
Talk Podblack in to helping you with the presentation. http://podblack.com/
That explains the DARPA contract for $0.65 that was let to secure the federal data bases and diplomatic cables. As far as privacy goes for any data including SSN, I think that boat sailed long ago. It depends on who is collecting the data and how much processing power they have. I would imagine that various governments have massive exclusionary data bases on people in their country as well as others. If every body else but me is in the data base, it isn't too difficult to figure out the missing data.
I spoke to the devs and they say that violent video games will not change their code. In fact, they will continue to make Empathy the best IM client they can, even if it is used to coordinate attacks in WoW.
I want a printer that prints a person from stem cells that can design a skin cell printer.
Perhaps if you include the HOX proteins in a separate "color" cartridge you could print random critters.
TMS is dandy, but liquor is quicker.
I agree it is not science since there is no observable, but as the GP says, it doesn't hurt to consider things that might spark imagination. I can think of conjoined multiverses that act in the same way as something like a DNA with a SNP that happens 1 in 4 billion and the reverse SNP that happens 1:16 billon billion creating the same universe with two paths to the same point. I think the book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_of_the_Imperium among others considered the subject long ago.
This multiverse is so pedantic.
So I suppose next we might find a tunnel that is one mile down and 40 miles under the border to breach the "castle walls" of the united states?
I was thinking more along the lines of a pack rat with a stomach full of packages as a drug mule. Wow, that is an odd combination of analogies once written. Of course the droppings might rat them out.
Actually the Japanese robots going to the moon are techno-bigots and want phones called Android. No self respecting robot would use an iPhone, unless it was called I_Robot_Phone.
If you want to avoid them you have to go in the sewers, then you have to deal with the manhacks.
You went too far mate
Did I get act and think reversed again?
It is worse than that. One of 500,000,000 threads on the Intertubes.
void CyberAttackInit(char *Target){
bool Attacked;
if (httpTraffic>1000){Attacked=TRUE;}
if (Attacked==TRUE){attackAllAttackers();}
}
I would guess that it would go from one attack or mistake to a deadlock in nanoseconds. It wouldn't end until somebody burned up or hit a bandwidth limit. One person could set off the entire internet in a single prompt critical. We should really create more situations like this that can be memorialized like the Morris worm.
damn, it won't compile with -Wall -Werror
This makes me wonder about an economy that takes biological material and uses it to fuel inanimate extension and use.
It seems a little like the Matrix, where people are just biofuel for the machines. Since we have IBM Watson , bot nets, robots that kill, and drones that can operate independently, the Terminators need a continuous fuel supply to eradicate the last of those pests that infect their energy chain.
-- John Connor
There is an open source project to go to the moon as well as Google funded x-prize and it seems reasonable that if one was to land a robot on the moon that having a power source that could support two way communication and a means to reload a robot's microcode via that link, that it would be more effective and if properly designed could support self manufacturing similar to some RepRap like circular process or the fact that a lathe can be used to create a lathe. I will probably look into the liquid-gas phase relationships of some common gases and the effectiveness of a permanent magnet inside a magnetic enclosure that functioned as a reverse rail gun to produce energy. It sounds like a fun thing to do as an exercise in mechanics.
I would think that having little robots driven by a TCP/IP link and with their own IPV6 addresses that it would be a great VR game that people would pay to play and might even make a profit mining for He3. It would seem that many people will mine imaginary materials in games.
hahahahaahhahaahhaha no.
<humor> I am assuming that the "h and a" somehow represent an genetic sequence in the form GCAT in a binary form where ha=10 ah=01 and that this is the microcode implementation vector whose phenotype calculates the navier-stokes, the energy transfer of a spherical permanent magnet, the temperature difference and energy transfer using Fourier as well as the analysis of a Carnot engine cycle. I must also assume that the no. represents the number output, which if I read correctly is 10101010011010011010 and is 698010. </humor>
Perhaps I am mistaken.
The sine rule does not apply. You make the assumption that it would facing upward and it does apply on the surface area to irradiation on Earth because the surface is of course at an angle to the sun but a solar panel pointing at the sun is face on as an example. As far as the economic feasibility it depends on the ability to move material without great cost and that has nothing to do with a moon engine. There is an open source project to go to the moon.
It would seem that the dark and light sides of the moon comprises a heat engine. For example, a tube which was placed about the pole and filled with gas, would expand in areas exposed to the sun and contract away from the sun in a continuous cycle, much like the engine that powers the Earths weather. It would this would be extensible and provide the local energy by turbine to operate some robotic process.