Unfortunately, this argument is moot. I was reading it strictly as stated by law. While there are prima facie indicators of intent (for instance, reloading the gun and shooting the victim with the full clip would probably indicate intent to kill) there are quite a few situations which would render the intent part inconclusive. Maybe the app got bumped on by accident? See? No intent proven. (of course, if you were "accidentally" diddling with your phone in your pocket for 5 hours while winning, that might be prima facia evidence.
That said, most of those won't end up in court. Most likely, you'll have your winnings confiscated, your phone smashed, and shown the door.
Perhaps if you mandated that Canadian companies worked harder to produce content that Canadians wanted to download AND made it reasonably cost effective to do so...
Hell, if they did that, the rest of the world might want to download Canadian content, too. They couldn't possibly want to unleash THAT menace upon the world! Oh! The humanity!
"Note: I work for the CRTC. They are not proposing influencing the content itself but rather the distribution."
In either case, the nanny province is telling me what I can and cannot watch. Whether it is the content,
that is direct cesorship, or the distribution, that is the ability to see what I want without "help" from the
government (that is you), it is STILL censorship. It is, like all cancon laws, tarted up censorship, eh.
JE
There, I Canuckified that for you. It's now compliant with the Canadian Content laws.
Actually, he was using "state" properly. He was using it in the sense of a nation, rather than a subentity in US style. For example, the US states technically were states in the normal sense only until they ratified the US Constitution currently in force (They were still independent states under the Articles of Confederation, by the way.)
Oddly enough, Rick Moranis revealed that the Mackenzie Brothers skit tacked on to the tail end of every episode of SCTV fulfilled the CRTC requirement. If someone could figure a way to do that for 'net content, you'd be golden.
That's easy! Just set up the web server to append "Hecho en Canada/Fabre en Canada/Made in Canada/..." to the footer of every page served.
Just my 2 cents (now what's the intrinsic value of that?)
Based on your exposition, which basically called me an idiot and added absolutely nothing to the discussion, you should be paying me for the time I lost reading it. You can deposit the amount straight to my paypal account.
"No sir. I did not intend to use it. I accidentally turned it on while fumbling around in my pocket..."
What you say to the judge when you get caught with the app on your phone.
Don't forget, it's the only way to get a lot of foreign films, or out of print stuff that the studios simply aren't releasing. Want to watch The Phantom Hourglass or the new Outer Limits programs? Good luck finding them on DVD. You have to resort to p2p for TV/VHS rips.
Also, value is pretty subjective in the end, anyway. A diamond may be pretty valuable to someone, but it's no better than any other lump of rock to me, even if it is shiny. But money is a poor method to indicate the intrinsic value of something.
In answer to your question, the farmland is still more valuable than the zombie city acreage (I also intimated this in the original post, when I pointed out the use of the land)
A penny is worth WHATEVER someone is willing to PAY for it. If some goober is willing to pay you $500 for your penny, they the penny is worth $500 at the time of sale.
Don't confuse price with intrinsic value. If he takes his penny to the store, they're not going to give him a TV, no matter how much he paid for it.
Let's put it another way: The US gov't wants to buy trillions of dollars worth of bad loans that should never have been approved. If the US gov't buys them for $500 billion, it doesn't make them worth $500 billion, or trillions, or even $1,000,000. They're worthless. Zero. No intrinsic value whatsoever.
He's not assuming anything except that people are willing to pay more for Manhattan land than mid-west land... Which isn't much of an assumption since people do it every day.
People pay far more for something than its value all the time. It doesn't make it any more valuable. I'm sure some goober might buy a penny for a nickel, but in the end, his penny is still worth a penny.
Land on Manhattan remains some of the most valuable land on the planet. And he wants to use it for the most land-intensive production imaginable? For the price of an acre on Manhattan, you could buy 100 acres in the Midwest, plus the equipment and personnel to operate it, plus transportation of the final product to NYC. That's the market trying to give you a hint that allocating Manhattan real estate to agriculture is not the most efficient thing to do.
You're making an implicit assumption that the acre in Manhattan is somehow intrinsically more valuable than the one in the midwest, which it isn't. It's only more expensive because someone is willing to pay 100 times more for it. For your reference, at one point, the entire island (~14,694 acres) was worth sixty guilders ($1000 in modern times), or ~$14 per acre. Compare that to $2,000~$5,000 per acre in the midwest, and probably $2,000,000~$5,000,000 in Manhattan today. Ironically, the midwestern acreage is more beneficial to the world, as it actually uses the land to produce food and raw materials. All Manhattan produces is financial derivatives, economic collapses, and porkulus bills, and it doesn't even really require the land, since a lot is done electronically.
was one trying to get the drop on the other, playing submarine-style stealth tag? maybe a sub commander trying to see how well he can track another sub without being detected, and the other doing a random "Crazy Ivan" style maneuver? i believe such things have happened before.
A while ago I saw a google earth version of all the satellites in orbit, and I had no idea there were so many. If even 25% of them are dead, I think it would be great if they came down.
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So if Obama is the bad guy because he won, does that make McCain the good guy?
No. They're both corrupt, rotten to the core, and beholden to corporate interests. Also, they kick puppies.
No, you counteracted mine. Thanks, Douche.
Whoosh, eh?
Big whoosh Aboot time I got the joke, doncha know.
I guess I just let my education get the better of me.
Unfortunately, this argument is moot. I was reading it strictly as stated by law. While there are prima facie indicators of intent (for instance, reloading the gun and shooting the victim with the full clip would probably indicate intent to kill) there are quite a few situations which would render the intent part inconclusive. Maybe the app got bumped on by accident? See? No intent proven. (of course, if you were "accidentally" diddling with your phone in your pocket for 5 hours while winning, that might be prima facia evidence.
That said, most of those won't end up in court. Most likely, you'll have your winnings confiscated, your phone smashed, and shown the door.
Perhaps if you mandated that Canadian companies worked harder to produce content that Canadians wanted to download AND made it reasonably cost effective to do so...
Hell, if they did that, the rest of the world might want to download Canadian content, too. They couldn't possibly want to unleash THAT menace upon the world! Oh! The humanity!
You wrote:
"Note: I work for the CRTC. They are not proposing influencing the content itself but rather the distribution."
In either case, the nanny province is telling me what I can and cannot watch. Whether it is the content, that is direct cesorship, or the distribution, that is the ability to see what I want without "help" from the government (that is you), it is STILL censorship. It is, like all cancon laws, tarted up censorship, eh.
JE
There, I Canuckified that for you. It's now compliant with the Canadian Content laws.
Actually, he was using "state" properly. He was using it in the sense of a nation, rather than a subentity in US style. For example, the US states technically were states in the normal sense only until they ratified the US Constitution currently in force (They were still independent states under the Articles of Confederation, by the way.)
Oddly enough, Rick Moranis revealed that the Mackenzie Brothers skit tacked on to the tail end of every episode of SCTV fulfilled the CRTC requirement. If someone could figure a way to do that for 'net content, you'd be golden.
That's easy! Just set up the web server to append "Hecho en Canada/Fabre en Canada/Made in Canada/..." to the footer of every page served.
I'm not sure Alanis Morisette qualifies as "+1 Interesting". Give me more of those crazy McKenzie brothers, though! It's aboot time we got them!
Just my 2 cents (now what's the intrinsic value of that?)
Based on your exposition, which basically called me an idiot and added absolutely nothing to the discussion, you should be paying me for the time I lost reading it. You can deposit the amount straight to my paypal account.
Why don't you enlighten us with the rest of the joke.
"No sir. I did not intend to use it. I accidentally turned it on while fumbling around in my pocket..." What you say to the judge when you get caught with the app on your phone.
I guess anything that needs to get out will have to be anonymously leaked.
Don't forget, it's the only way to get a lot of foreign films, or out of print stuff that the studios simply aren't releasing. Want to watch The Phantom Hourglass or the new Outer Limits programs? Good luck finding them on DVD. You have to resort to p2p for TV/VHS rips.
Also, value is pretty subjective in the end, anyway. A diamond may be pretty valuable to someone, but it's no better than any other lump of rock to me, even if it is shiny. But money is a poor method to indicate the intrinsic value of something.
In answer to your question, the farmland is still more valuable than the zombie city acreage (I also intimated this in the original post, when I pointed out the use of the land)
A penny is worth WHATEVER someone is willing to PAY for it. If some goober is willing to pay you $500 for your penny, they the penny is worth $500 at the time of sale.
Don't confuse price with intrinsic value. If he takes his penny to the store, they're not going to give him a TV, no matter how much he paid for it.
Let's put it another way: The US gov't wants to buy trillions of dollars worth of bad loans that should never have been approved. If the US gov't buys them for $500 billion, it doesn't make them worth $500 billion, or trillions, or even $1,000,000. They're worthless. Zero. No intrinsic value whatsoever.
He's not assuming anything except that people are willing to pay more for Manhattan land than mid-west land... Which isn't much of an assumption since people do it every day.
People pay far more for something than its value all the time. It doesn't make it any more valuable. I'm sure some goober might buy a penny for a nickel, but in the end, his penny is still worth a penny.
Land on Manhattan remains some of the most valuable land on the planet. And he wants to use it for the most land-intensive production imaginable? For the price of an acre on Manhattan, you could buy 100 acres in the Midwest, plus the equipment and personnel to operate it, plus transportation of the final product to NYC. That's the market trying to give you a hint that allocating Manhattan real estate to agriculture is not the most efficient thing to do.
You're making an implicit assumption that the acre in Manhattan is somehow intrinsically more valuable than the one in the midwest, which it isn't. It's only more expensive because someone is willing to pay 100 times more for it. For your reference, at one point, the entire island (~14,694 acres) was worth sixty guilders ($1000 in modern times), or ~$14 per acre. Compare that to $2,000~$5,000 per acre in the midwest, and probably $2,000,000~$5,000,000 in Manhattan today. Ironically, the midwestern acreage is more beneficial to the world, as it actually uses the land to produce food and raw materials. All Manhattan produces is financial derivatives, economic collapses, and porkulus bills, and it doesn't even really require the land, since a lot is done electronically.
Reminds me of SimCity 2000 (yes, the OLD one, just after the original SimCity) and the bio domes/cork screw buildings.
Well, this makes sense, since he was given some LSD, and a sketchpad, and told to draw whatever came to mind while he played sim city...
Would you trust the French sub? I know I wouldn't?
It should also be noted that the French pioneered submarines incorporating a screen-door design.
was one trying to get the drop on the other, playing submarine-style stealth tag? maybe a sub commander trying to see how well he can track another sub without being detected, and the other doing a random "Crazy Ivan" style maneuver? i believe such things have happened before.
More like they were playing stealth-chicken.
What's big and long and full of seamen?
A submarine!
Thank you thank you! I'm here all week!
and Connecticut too. I list untaxed internet purchases when I do my tax returns. Sales tax keeps our states running!
Then give me a complete refund on my income taxes.
Mister Sanger, please define "expert". For example, there are a lot of "experts" who insist on shouting down opposition to global warming theories by other "experts", claiming they aren't experts at all. Some of those "experts" are also directly responsible for inventing the "internet" that needs to be scrapped.
A while ago I saw a google earth version of all the satellites in orbit, and I had no idea there were so many. If even 25% of them are dead, I think it would be great if they came down.
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+1 insightful if I ever saw it.
Maybe it's time to jump ship on Facebook, too.