I agree with your sentiment, but the practical side of me worries that insurance companies would do whatever they could to find out whether we carried this defect or not.
Even if you make it illegal for them to discriminate on genetic defects, they will try to get around the legislation...
Fixed it for you. Risk != certainty. If the information is somehow procurable, insurance companies will always find a way to obtain and use it, legally or not. Can't get DNA to find the mutation itself because it's illegal? Fine. They'll just look for a protein marker that is too general to tie specifically to that mutation. Their actuaries will state "Well, people with this protein marker tend to also have higher risks of heart problems, though it's a digestive enzyme." Lo and behold, your rates increase over someone without the defect. Sure, it will probably catch folks without the mutation as well, but that's the price we pay.
Do you honestly feel the only reason to have seat belt laws is to reduce the cost of socialized medicine? Does the loss of life angle mean nothing to you?
I don't need the government to tell me what I will and will not do with my body.
If I decide to jump off a cliff, technically, that's perfectly legal. So is drinking bleach.
By extension, if I want to drive around without a seat belt, risking my life (and noone else's), then that is my perogative, not some cop's who happens to be driving past in the opposite direction with nothing better to do.
Hopefully he opens DOE facilities back to the public. Fences and guard boxes at the complex entrances don't inspire confidence in security at facilities carrying out non-classified research. (For your reference, I'm referring to LBNL)
Yanno, the way proposition 8 is worded should impose that much impediment. Couldn't one half of the couple simply declare itself to be the opposite sex (I'm sure there's some legal mechanism now, due to transsexuals doing this somehow.)
This law is probably one of the best I've ever seen. It is simple, short, clearly worded, we know who it effects in all cases. It also clears up a lot of issues.
May I also point out that marriage is essentially irrelevant in today's world?
The way kids and adults fuck around, why bother with marriage? A family doesn't require marriage, only a man and a woman.
When the time comes, my own marriage will be noted in the front cover of a big Bible, as will any offspring. I don't need the big, bad gov't to recognize it.
Actually, they just want Uncle Sam to regulate what is acceptable in other people's bedrooms. Which might be what you meant.
Actually, Lawrence v Texas generally said that the government has to stay out of bedrooms (unless of course, it happens to be looking for drugs, because as we all know, drugs are the province of terrorists). It never said that the government has to recognize something. Personally, I'm for the abolition of marriage (except in a religious context). It does nothing but lead to legal trouble for people.
In related news, the RIAA asked that the hearing not be made available over BitTorrent...since, well, BitTorrent is evil, no matter what it is being used for...
Since you can use it to download both Linux AND cracked versions of Windows, Microsoft also concurs!
Commander Riker, this is Captain Picard. We seem to be trapped in a holodeck simulation of the Matrix, and Mr. LaForge has broken his leg because the safeties are off. Can you beam us out?
Oh, god, I can't read Slashdot commentary and drink fluids at the same time, I never know when something is really going to be funny and I just found out what happens when I stumble across something hilarious while chugging a bottle of water.
People still drink water? I thought it was either Mountain Dew, or beer.
First off, I don't know why I was labeled "flamebait".
It's obvious. You were probably labelled flamebait because if <sarcasm>you aren't absolutely against child porn and support mindless censorship, then you must be a child pornographer or at least supportive of child porn.</sarcasm>
I don't live in Germany, and have never been there, so I don't know. Maybe they already have a flourishing Nazi community that I don't know about. Is it a holdover from the 40's, or bourne of something new?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SCOTUS+
It's called SCOTUS not USSC.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, just pointing that out so you can better argue you points in the future.
Toe-may-toe, ta-mah-toe. It's all a matter of what one prefers, I suspect.
United States Supreme Court vs Supreme Court of the United States.
I think I managed to convey my message relatively unambiguously, at the very least./p?
I think I heard somewhere that methane gas contributes to Global Warming. If Mars is going through Global Warming shouldn't it be renamed to Solar, or even Universal, Warming?
No. Global refers to the local planet in context. As for universal warming, fat chance of that. Given the universe's expansion and the laws of thermodynamics, the universe will eventually cool to somewhere around 0K (but probably not exactly at 0K, due to quantum vaccuum energy) See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
President-Elect Obama's science advisor notes that this is strong evidence of Martian cows. "This is why we must launch a Mars mission soon. Because if even one Martian lights a match, the entire planet will blow up. It is our duty to stop this potential disaster, and also import Martian cheese made from Martian cow's milk. " Obama will ask Congress for $700 trillion dollars for this vital mission. NASA officials objected, saying "We cannot risk contamination of Earth cows' genetics from six-legged Martian cows."
Obama's administration also pointed out that we have to do something to prevent global warming on Mars as a result of their cows. The proposed solution is to tax them per-head of cattle.
I guess I'll secretly follow any secret rulings by a secret court. Of course, on the face of it, I'll just ignore anything they say, because "Hey, buddy, I didn't see you there."
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I agree with your sentiment, but the practical side of me worries that insurance companies would do whatever they could to find out whether we carried this defect or not. Even if you make it illegal for them to discriminate on genetic defects, they will try to get around the legislation...
Fixed it for you. Risk != certainty. If the information is somehow procurable, insurance companies will always find a way to obtain and use it, legally or not. Can't get DNA to find the mutation itself because it's illegal? Fine. They'll just look for a protein marker that is too general to tie specifically to that mutation. Their actuaries will state "Well, people with this protein marker tend to also have higher risks of heart problems, though it's a digestive enzyme." Lo and behold, your rates increase over someone without the defect. Sure, it will probably catch folks without the mutation as well, but that's the price we pay.
India cannot support hundreds of millions of elderly pensioners. Long-term this will probably be a competitive advantage over China.
Except China and India probably share that same mutation, given that they are probably fairly close, genetically.
Do you honestly feel the only reason to have seat belt laws is to reduce the cost of socialized medicine? Does the loss of life angle mean nothing to you?
I don't need the government to tell me what I will and will not do with my body.
If I decide to jump off a cliff, technically, that's perfectly legal. So is drinking bleach.
By extension, if I want to drive around without a seat belt, risking my life (and noone else's), then that is my perogative, not some cop's who happens to be driving past in the opposite direction with nothing better to do.
Shouldn't that be jacking on, since Taco Bell/Wifi is concerned?
Hopefully he opens DOE facilities back to the public. Fences and guard boxes at the complex entrances don't inspire confidence in security at facilities carrying out non-classified research. (For your reference, I'm referring to LBNL)
Wouldn't you need a molecular-scale henhouse to keep them in, for the foxes to raid?
Mmmmmm.... Boobs
For more info, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tits
Yanno, the way proposition 8 is worded should impose that much impediment. Couldn't one half of the couple simply declare itself to be the opposite sex (I'm sure there's some legal mechanism now, due to transsexuals doing this somehow.)
This law is probably one of the best I've ever seen. It is simple, short, clearly worded, we know who it effects in all cases. It also clears up a lot of issues.
May I also point out that marriage is essentially irrelevant in today's world?
The way kids and adults fuck around, why bother with marriage? A family doesn't require marriage, only a man and a woman.
When the time comes, my own marriage will be noted in the front cover of a big Bible, as will any offspring. I don't need the big, bad gov't to recognize it.
Actually, they just want Uncle Sam to regulate what is acceptable in other people's bedrooms. Which might be what you meant.
Actually, Lawrence v Texas generally said that the government has to stay out of bedrooms (unless of course, it happens to be looking for drugs, because as we all know, drugs are the province of terrorists). It never said that the government has to recognize something. Personally, I'm for the abolition of marriage (except in a religious context). It does nothing but lead to legal trouble for people.
It helps when both sides are present at the same time. Otherwise both will claim their version is the truth and leave you to sort out the bodies.
In related news, the RIAA asked that the hearing not be made available over BitTorrent...since, well, BitTorrent is evil, no matter what it is being used for...
Since you can use it to download both Linux AND cracked versions of Windows, Microsoft also concurs!
hey, if Fred Astaire can sell me a vacuum from beyond the grave, then Dangerfield can be reanimated for great justice.
Where's my zig?!?
e.g. Mice spontaneously generated out of meat.
Not mice. Flies. Mice don't generally like meat all that much (thought they'll eat it in a pinch.). They are, however, insectivorous.
Commander Riker, this is Captain Picard. We seem to be trapped in a holodeck simulation of the Matrix, and Mr. LaForge has broken his leg because the safeties are off. Can you beam us out?
Oh, god, I can't read Slashdot commentary and drink fluids at the same time, I never know when something is really going to be funny and I just found out what happens when I stumble across something hilarious while chugging a bottle of water.
People still drink water? I thought it was either Mountain Dew, or beer.
Four legs good, two legs bad!
First off, I don't know why I was labeled "flamebait".
It's obvious. You were probably labelled flamebait because if <sarcasm>you aren't absolutely against child porn and support mindless censorship, then you must be a child pornographer or at least supportive of child porn.</sarcasm>
What do you mean eventually?
I don't live in Germany, and have never been there, so I don't know. Maybe they already have a flourishing Nazi community that I don't know about. Is it a holdover from the 40's, or bourne of something new?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SCOTUS+ It's called SCOTUS not USSC. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just pointing that out so you can better argue you points in the future.
Toe-may-toe, ta-mah-toe. It's all a matter of what one prefers, I suspect.
United States Supreme Court vs Supreme Court of the United States.
I think I managed to convey my message relatively unambiguously, at the very least./p?
I think I heard somewhere that methane gas contributes to Global Warming. If Mars is going through Global Warming shouldn't it be renamed to Solar, or even Universal, Warming?
No. Global refers to the local planet in context. As for universal warming, fat chance of that. Given the universe's expansion and the laws of thermodynamics, the universe will eventually cool to somewhere around 0K (but probably not exactly at 0K, due to quantum vaccuum energy) See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe
President-Elect Obama's science advisor notes that this is strong evidence of Martian cows. "This is why we must launch a Mars mission soon. Because if even one Martian lights a match, the entire planet will blow up. It is our duty to stop this potential disaster, and also import Martian cheese made from Martian cow's milk. " Obama will ask Congress for $700 trillion dollars for this vital mission. NASA officials objected, saying "We cannot risk contamination of Earth cows' genetics from six-legged Martian cows."
Obama's administration also pointed out that we have to do something to prevent global warming on Mars as a result of their cows. The proposed solution is to tax them per-head of cattle.
Perhaps now Idle should be renamed Weird, or Strange. :P
Just name the section: Off-topic.
I guess I'll secretly follow any secret rulings by a secret court. Of course, on the face of it, I'll just ignore anything they say, because "Hey, buddy, I didn't see you there."