Actually, were I a programmer asked to look at this stuff, I'd refuse; I'd be worried about Microsoft trying to sue me down the line for having seen their source code then written something. Kinda like why the Samba team refuses to look at any code Microsoft related.
The MS HTML Engine (shdocvw.dll and mshtml.dll) is left on the machine to provide needed functionality for other applications that render HMTL (e.g. Outlook Express) or that launch a mini-browsing window (e.g. Winamp's Mini Browser, Netmeeting's Online Directory).
Yup, cleans IE right out of there, doesn't it? Just removes it completely from the machine.
Oh, wait. Except for the parts that would DAMANGE THE OPERATING SYSTEM.
And don't forget that lovely piece of software, DVD Subber. Not that it applies to set tops, but does, in fact, apply to DVD-ROMS, which are now adays hard-regioncoded.
Although you can still follow along with a paper translation.
If one man has the tools, a second has the land, and a third has the seeds, then it only makes sense for them to put all three together, and feed themselves well.
They can't be blamed for wanting to sell what they have at a somewhat reasonable price; they put in the work, after all.
Gee, then you could start Slashdot-style flame wars.
Given new computer rendering technology, wouldn't you say that 'visual effects' are now less important than 'art direction' seeing as how anybody can render photo-realistically? I mean, it's not how you do it anymore, but what you do with it.
I've never understood the idea of 'best picture.' After all, you'd expect the best picture to also have the majority of the other 'bests;' best music, direction, art, blah blah blah. Best movie should be an award to whichever movie wins the most of a list of other bests.
The arguments here are a) it says on the box that by buying it, you're agreeing to the license you haven't read yet, or b) you bought the physical media; you need to agree to the license to get to the bits on it.
Scott Adams points out that something like 96 percent of the time, the taller candidate wins. When he doesn't win, it's because his opponent has a vastly better head of hair.
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What do you expect? People are often raised being told 'if you don't go to university and get a degree, you'll be pumping gas or stocking shelves!'
Well, guess what? Even IF you go to university, you have a very good chance of winding up there these days. That's a real psychological blow; westeren society pretty much measures an adult by what they do for a living; white collar vs blue collar, and so on. Hell, the first thing you often ask somebody after their name is 'So, what do you do?' Or, people introduce themselves by their carrer. "Hi, I'm Bob, and I'm a marketing engineer."
Don't blame this guy for thinking he's far too qualified for tossing mail boxes, because he is. And acknowledging that fact doesn't reflect badly on him. His daily attitude might, though.
Oh, and here's a similar story. A year or so ago, I was hiring for a co-op position. The resumes were all from local college students. Most were typical; no work experience beyond mowing lawns or flipping burgers, which is what we were looking for. Well, one resume was from a guy from India, and his resume went like this:
Teacher's assistant
Assisstant professor
Professor
Department head of university
7-11 night shift clerk
I dare you to guess at what point during his career he moved to Canada. Go on, guess. The guy had something like two full Masters with graduate work, and he was applying for a $12 CDN cable monkey job.
I do not run unknown binaries and resent anything that attempts to run them for me without my consent or knowledge.
So you don't use apt-get, BSD ports, Ximian Red Carpet or Red Hat Network, and only install RPMs, Solaris PKGs, and other things that have been digitally signed by somebody that you trust, and who's signature you've personally verified against said signature?
Oh, and when you download something from source, you painstakingly go through it, line by line, looking for maliciousness?
No? Then you're running unkwown binaries, and there may be attempts for things to run without your consent and knowledge.
Or are you saying you delegate your trust? BSD ports, for example, is probably a fairly safe place to get things from. Fine. So what you're saying, instead, is that you only run binaries from sources that you choose to trust. Great. Go nuts.
My understanding is that it acts the way it's always acted; you can tell it not to check, to check, then prompt you for download, or check, download, then prompt you for application.
"Oh my GOD! NIMDA! CODE RED! Oh, if only there was a way to automatically upgrade all these computers with the security fixes."
"There's a way to automatically upgrade all these computers with security fixes."
"OH MY GOD! INVASION OF PRIVACY! RAPE! BURGLARY!"
And all that means is that much like browsers nowadays give the user the option of faking the useragent, and disabling popup javascript, it'll also give the option of trying to fake a referrer based on the link.
In other words, if it's from 'images.myserver.com' then try claiming myserver.com, www.myserver.com and images.myserver.com as referrers until you get it right, or exhaust all the obvious ideas.
In college, in, oh, 1995, we had some COBOL classes. And the IBM COBOL interpreter we used had the column constraints; it considered text input to be a virtual punch card; various COBOL bits had to be in various columns, or it would not compute. The VAX compiler, fortunately, didn't have such constraints.
But the teacher, who was 65+, kept a whack of card sheets, which he'd photocopy and hand out, and require at least one assignment done on.
Or, in other words, the fact that the user is generating an HTTP GET means they're asking for permission, and the fact that the server is sending the picture means that permission has been granted.
Or is posting an address now illegal? Gee, there go the yellow pages....
"But wait!" you hear the OSS people cry. "If you have the source code, you can fix bugs!"
"Well," I have to ask, with a rather pensive look on my face. "If the people who designed and wrote the software can't find the bugs, what makes you think that throwing somebody at it in their spare cycles is going to help? We want software that works, so we can do our business. Our business is not writing this software."
From a business perspective, at least.
Isn't there, in the US legal system, the ability to get a pre-emptive judgement? I.e. somebody's treatening legal action, as a threat, you can take the case to the judge yourself and be declared legally clean?
Maybe somebody with the cash should do that. Get the polite BSA letter, send a polite one back, get the threatening letter, send a 'fuck you' reply back, then go to the judge and cart out all these arguements; extortion, protection rackets, innocent until proven guilty, burden of proof of ownership, and so on.
Might even set a precident that other companies can use.
Remember the aegis of the 'anonymous tip-off.' "Your honor, we have reason to believe that this company isn't in compliance, and want to check."
Even though they won't be able to charge you with anything, your business is down for several days while they satisfy themselves of it, with a US Marshall to keep people away from their computers, lest they 'destroy evidence.'
Or, put another way, assuming you're male, all it takes is one woman accusing you of rape to completely ruin your life. Who cares if she makes it up? It's all in the accusation.
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Actually, were I a programmer asked to look at this stuff, I'd refuse; I'd be worried about Microsoft trying to sue me down the line for having seen their source code then written something. Kinda like why the Samba team refuses to look at any code Microsoft related.
And don't forget that lovely piece of software, DVD Subber. Not that it applies to set tops, but does, in fact, apply to DVD-ROMS, which are now adays hard-regioncoded. Although you can still follow along with a paper translation.
If one man has the tools, a second has the land, and a third has the seeds, then it only makes sense for them to put all three together, and feed themselves well. They can't be blamed for wanting to sell what they have at a somewhat reasonable price; they put in the work, after all.
I've never understood the idea of 'best picture.' After all, you'd expect the best picture to also have the majority of the other 'bests;' best music, direction, art, blah blah blah. Best movie should be an award to whichever movie wins the most of a list of other bests.
I wouldn't consider Britan to be 'western society' so much as 'British society.' But that's just me. Sorry for the confusion.
The arguments here are a) it says on the box that by buying it, you're agreeing to the license you haven't read yet, or b) you bought the physical media; you need to agree to the license to get to the bits on it.
True, true, but ancedotes and stereotypes occur for a reason.
Scott Adams points out that something like 96 percent of the time, the taller candidate wins. When he doesn't win, it's because his opponent has a vastly better head of hair.
- Teacher's assistant
- Assisstant professor
- Professor
- Department head of university
- 7-11 night shift clerk
I dare you to guess at what point during his career he moved to Canada. Go on, guess. The guy had something like two full Masters with graduate work, and he was applying for a $12 CDN cable monkey job.Except for the fact that EULAs are not contracts.
My understanding is that it acts the way it's always acted; you can tell it not to check, to check, then prompt you for download, or check, download, then prompt you for application.
"Oh my GOD! NIMDA! CODE RED! Oh, if only there was a way to automatically upgrade all these computers with the security fixes." "There's a way to automatically upgrade all these computers with security fixes." "OH MY GOD! INVASION OF PRIVACY! RAPE! BURGLARY!"
Oh, big fricking whoop. There is a HUGE difference between 'automatic downloading' and 'automatic downloading and execution.'
And all that means is that much like browsers nowadays give the user the option of faking the useragent, and disabling popup javascript, it'll also give the option of trying to fake a referrer based on the link. In other words, if it's from 'images.myserver.com' then try claiming myserver.com, www.myserver.com and images.myserver.com as referrers until you get it right, or exhaust all the obvious ideas.
In college, in, oh, 1995, we had some COBOL classes. And the IBM COBOL interpreter we used had the column constraints; it considered text input to be a virtual punch card; various COBOL bits had to be in various columns, or it would not compute. The VAX compiler, fortunately, didn't have such constraints. But the teacher, who was 65+, kept a whack of card sheets, which he'd photocopy and hand out, and require at least one assignment done on.
Or, in other words, the fact that the user is generating an HTTP GET means they're asking for permission, and the fact that the server is sending the picture means that permission has been granted. Or is posting an address now illegal? Gee, there go the yellow pages....
It's about as easy to fake a referrer as it is to fake a useragent string.
I believe it's called 'power of attorney' and allows them to, in fact, act as first-party.
Isn't there, in the US legal system, the ability to get a pre-emptive judgement? I.e. somebody's treatening legal action, as a threat, you can take the case to the judge yourself and be declared legally clean? Maybe somebody with the cash should do that. Get the polite BSA letter, send a polite one back, get the threatening letter, send a 'fuck you' reply back, then go to the judge and cart out all these arguements; extortion, protection rackets, innocent until proven guilty, burden of proof of ownership, and so on. Might even set a precident that other companies can use.
Ah, but they claim to be a 'non profit' organization. And know all the tricks to tie a company up in court for years.
Remember the aegis of the 'anonymous tip-off.' "Your honor, we have reason to believe that this company isn't in compliance, and want to check." Even though they won't be able to charge you with anything, your business is down for several days while they satisfy themselves of it, with a US Marshall to keep people away from their computers, lest they 'destroy evidence.' Or, put another way, assuming you're male, all it takes is one woman accusing you of rape to completely ruin your life. Who cares if she makes it up? It's all in the accusation.