This is great stuff. Reminds me of the Netday efforts honcho'd by an army of volunteers in the local communities. Grass roots efforts always seem to have a bigger positive impact on the kids that the "Only in it for the press" efforts of the big companies who leave as soon as the cameras are gone.
Don't know about that. Look at some of the other big boys in the sandbox who are looking favorable on the GPL model, IBM, SUN etc. The worlds changing pretty quickly and if companies don't change with it, they die. Knowing M$ is not nearly near death, it could happen and could happen quickly, look at some who didn't change. . . DEC, WANG, Macy's, Dodge, Zewnith, the list goes on and on.
One other question is: What sort of interest is there in the slashdot comunity for a windows based open source project?"
Please, not flames. I think this would be a great idea, not just for the/. community but for the open source movement overall. There is the obvious us and them mentality from both the M$ contingent and the open source community. Open Source folks preach this is the way to go and the M$ community cries we can't be profitable with GPL. This could be a great oppurtunity to prove that open source relating to the M$ and Windows environments can/is profitable if done correctly.
Why couldn't they just redirect it when the Millennium Mission is complete in February 2001? With such a success, (NASA needs a few) why crash it in to Jupiter, there has to be some value the old warhorse can provide. It'd be a shame to end this program.
Reminds me of the old DEC days when they made proprietary RJ-11 connectors, they had the tab on the side so you could only use sanctioned DEC cables, which were twice as expensive. I can see parallels in what M$ is doing, for obvious reasons, but when will M$ learn that every time they do something like this they really create long term damage to their products and alienate their customer base. Whatever PHB's at M$ who supported this should be canned, this is even bad by M$ standards.
Scary stuff, just goes to show that anything we put out over email is public. As a PHB and being pretty close to the Netscape suit that was referenced. Little stuff can haunt you as well, All the jokes, flames etc that an employee might send can also screw you. We had to put out to Friend and associates to please DO NOT send me anything remotely inapropriate over mail, this included Hotmail and the like. It just isn't worth it.
Why would they need bullet proof encryption on a console anyway? This just seems like a real blunder on Sony's part. They know the restrictions, they had to know this could/would happen. I don't get it.
I agree, the follow the money. Who will end up as the controlling/indexing interest? In the gold rush days, the guys made who dug for gold, sometimes made money, the guys who sold the shovels and pick axes, made the railroads etc. made gazillions.
Nader and Co. may be facilitating this because of theeir beliefs etc, but the real driving force are the behind the scenes folks who will profit. Hmmm, don't know who, but I want to get on the Networksolutions.sucks bandwagon.
I think this is good news. I've allways been fond of Cray, The company was Hq'd in my home town. The Cray name still has value even though the supercomputer market has dried up somewhat. I think the name change to Cray, reguardless of what processing market they're going after, will bring some level of branding with what the old Cray used to have. I'm glad Cray, in whatever form will still be around and not go the way of the dinosaurs
1. The AOL car would have a TOP speed of 40 MPH yet have a 200 MPH speedometer. 2. The AOL car would come equipped with a NEW and fantastic 8-Track tape player. 3. The car would often refuse to start and owners would just expect this and try again later. 4. The windshield would have an extra dark tint to protect the driver from seeing better cars. 5. AOL would sell the same model car year after year and claim it's the NEW model. 6. Every now and then the brakes on the AOL car would just "lock-up" for no apparent reason. 7. The AOL car would have a very plain body style but would have lots' of pretty colors and lights. 8. The AOL car would have only one door but it would have 5 extra seats for family members. 9. Anyone dissatisfied could return the car but must continue to make payments for 6 months. 10. If an AOL car owner received 3 parking tickets AOL would take the car off of them. 11. The AOL car would have an AOL Cell phone that can only place calls to other AOL car cell phones. 12. AOL would pass a new car law forbidding AOL car owners from driving near other car dealerships. 13. AOL car mechanics would have no experience in car repair. 14. Younger AOL car drivers would be able to make other peoples AOL cars stall just for fun. 15. It would not be possible to upgrade your AOL car stereo. 16. AOL cars would be forced to use AOL gas that cost 20% more and gave worse mileage. 17. Anytime an AOL car owner saw another AOL car owner he would wonder, M/F/age? 18. It would be common for AOL car owners to divorce just to marry another AOL car owner. 19. AOL car owners would always claim to be older or younger than they really are. 20. AOL cars would come with a steering wheel and AOL would claim no other cars have them. 21. Every time you close the door on the AOL car it would say, "Good-Bye."
Honestly, if you were working for our company it would. The PHB's way up above have made a concious shift to use C++ rather than C. The reasoning? I really have no idea, maybe they think it's better, etc.,Maybe they want to standardise the development efforts to a suite of tools to gain synergies across development shops. Too bad really, because C isn't the only one, their standardising, HTML tools, Graphics tools, business apps etc. It tends to really cripple the advantages of having folks develop with the tools they are comfortable with.
Why is this tagged as a troll? The whole thread is just a humorus troll. The relationship of losing beer in your beard IS directly related to the parent post referencing losing grits in ones pants. Quite on-topic for this article, although at the same time somewhat disturbing.
First off I think Guinness tastes like liquid asphalt, why anyone would want to drink that stuff is beyond me. Also two questions, one, someone seems to have an awful lot of spare time on their hands to perform such a study, wasting time on/. is a much better way to go.
Finally, out of all the folks with facial hair, why did they pick George Michael to reference? Didn't he have sort of a fall from grace in the public eye? They could have used one of the guys from ZZ Top, Dom Deloise, C. Everett Coupe or possibly even Bea Arthur.
In the article they say they have a device that can fit 5,500 million transistors into a centimeter. I can understand 6-7 million, that seems almost commonplace now. But 5,500 million just boggles the mind. They referenced the days of carrying around heavy batteries are numbered. I agree, but with these kind of advancements the days of the laptops and the cell phones actually seem to be what's numbered. Very cool.
Honestly, not many. What we learned (the hard way) was that C developers that were good, were also good in adapting/learning/etc. C++. On the other hand, we did get out of the training business by trying to port C developers to C++. The expectations I had were quite misguided. I understood C++ to be just the next version of C, for the longest time I just never got it that C++ was different. When we did, we looked for C++ developers and stopped the pain, and increased the quality of our code overall.
Naturally, you can write poor programs in any language. C++ is a powerful tool and in the wrong hands it can generate code that is *obviously* contorted and bloated. That may be preferable to the traditional spaghetti that poor programmers produce in C. Note that someone who is a good C programmer isn't automatically a good C++ programmer. Many problems have been caused by good C programmers assuming that they could adopt a semi-random collection of C++ language features and then magically become a good C++ programmer in a week.
Elegantly said. C++ is a little tougher and takes a little effort to learn. The key word being effort. As a PHB I've found that developers who write marginal code in C did write poor code in C++, however I think this comes down to both a person who uses tools and resources targeted to meet a specific purpose and people who stay whith what is comfortable to them reguardless of the fact they may be using the wrong tool for the job.
The interview questions were very good, Glad to see the good ones get bubbled up to the top. Also thanks to Bjarne Stroustrup for taking the time to answer them fully and completely, it's obvious that he spent some time with this.
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What about a bicycle? Surely you don't think that bicycles are caused by company performace -- that would be a very odd coincidence.
Wonder what he meant by that. Did he mean unemployment? Accidental deaths? Failed corporations?
+5 Funny!
I would rather have them simulate it than to start nuking the Nevada and New Mexico plains again.
This is great stuff. Reminds me of the Netday efforts honcho'd by an army of volunteers in the local communities. Grass roots efforts always seem to have a bigger positive impact on the kids that the "Only in it for the press" efforts of the big companies who leave as soon as the cameras are gone.
Don't know about that. Look at some of the other big boys in the sandbox who are looking favorable on the GPL model, IBM, SUN etc. The worlds changing pretty quickly and if companies don't change with it, they die. Knowing M$ is not nearly near death, it could happen and could happen quickly, look at some who didn't change. . . DEC, WANG, Macy's, Dodge, Zewnith, the list goes on and on.
Please, not flames. I think this would be a great idea, not just for the /. community but for the open source movement overall. There is the obvious us and them mentality from both the M$ contingent and the open source community. Open Source folks preach this is the way to go and the M$ community cries we can't be profitable with GPL. This could be a great oppurtunity to prove that open source relating to the M$ and Windows environments can/is profitable if done correctly.
Why couldn't they just redirect it when the Millennium Mission is complete in February 2001? With such a success, (NASA needs a few) why crash it in to Jupiter, there has to be some value the old warhorse can provide. It'd be a shame to end this program.
Reminds me of the old DEC days when they made proprietary RJ-11 connectors, they had the tab on the side so you could only use sanctioned DEC cables, which were twice as expensive. I can see parallels in what M$ is doing, for obvious reasons, but when will M$ learn that every time they do something like this they really create long term damage to their products and alienate their customer base. Whatever PHB's at M$ who supported this should be canned, this is even bad by M$ standards.
Scary stuff, just goes to show that anything we put out over email is public. As a PHB and being pretty close to the Netscape suit that was referenced. Little stuff can haunt you as well, All the jokes, flames etc that an employee might send can also screw you. We had to put out to Friend and associates to please DO NOT send me anything remotely inapropriate over mail, this included Hotmail and the like. It just isn't worth it.
Why would they need bullet proof encryption on a console anyway? This just seems like a real blunder on Sony's part. They know the restrictions, they had to know this could/would happen. I don't get it.
Nader and Co. may be facilitating this because of theeir beliefs etc, but the real driving force are the behind the scenes folks who will profit. Hmmm, don't know who, but I want to get on the Networksolutions.sucks bandwagon.
I think this is good news. I've allways been fond of Cray, The company was Hq'd in my home town. The Cray name still has value even though the supercomputer market has dried up somewhat. I think the name change to Cray, reguardless of what processing market they're going after, will bring some level of branding with what the old Cray used to have. I'm glad Cray, in whatever form will still be around and not go the way of the dinosaurs
1. The AOL car would have a TOP speed of 40 MPH yet have a 200 MPH speedometer.
2. The AOL car would come equipped with a NEW and fantastic 8-Track tape player.
3. The car would often refuse to start and owners would just expect this and try again later.
4. The windshield would have an extra dark tint to protect the driver from seeing better cars.
5. AOL would sell the same model car year after year and claim it's the NEW model.
6. Every now and then the brakes on the AOL car would just "lock-up" for no apparent reason.
7. The AOL car would have a very plain body style but would have lots' of pretty colors and lights.
8. The AOL car would have only one door but it would have 5 extra seats for family members.
9. Anyone dissatisfied could return the car but must continue to make payments for 6 months.
10. If an AOL car owner received 3 parking tickets AOL would take the car off of them.
11. The AOL car would have an AOL Cell phone that can only place calls to other AOL car cell phones.
12. AOL would pass a new car law forbidding AOL car owners from driving near other car dealerships.
13. AOL car mechanics would have no experience in car repair.
14. Younger AOL car drivers would be able to make other peoples AOL cars stall just for fun.
15. It would not be possible to upgrade your AOL car stereo.
16. AOL cars would be forced to use AOL gas that cost 20% more and gave worse mileage.
17. Anytime an AOL car owner saw another AOL car owner he would wonder, M/F/age?
18. It would be common for AOL car owners to divorce just to marry another AOL car owner.
19. AOL car owners would always claim to be older or younger than they really are.
20. AOL cars would come with a steering wheel and AOL would claim no other cars have them.
21. Every time you close the door on the AOL car it would say, "Good-Bye."
Ernie
Why is this tagged as a troll? The whole thread is just a humorus troll. The relationship of losing beer in your beard IS directly related to the parent post referencing losing grits in ones pants. Quite on-topic for this article, although at the same time somewhat disturbing.
Finally, out of all the folks with facial hair, why did they pick George Michael to reference? Didn't he have sort of a fall from grace in the public eye? They could have used one of the guys from ZZ Top, Dom Deloise, C. Everett Coupe or possibly even Bea Arthur.
What else would they be used for?? 8->
Very Very good. This could work, and not to tough to implement.
In the article they say they have a device that can fit 5,500 million transistors into a centimeter. I can understand 6-7 million, that seems almost commonplace now. But 5,500 million just boggles the mind. They referenced the days of carrying around heavy batteries are numbered. I agree, but with these kind of advancements the days of the laptops and the cell phones actually seem to be what's numbered. Very cool.
Honestly, not many. What we learned (the hard way) was that C developers that were good, were also good in adapting/learning/etc. C++. On the other hand, we did get out of the training business by trying to port C developers to C++. The expectations I had were quite misguided. I understood C++ to be just the next version of C, for the longest time I just never got it that C++ was different. When we did, we looked for C++ developers and stopped the pain, and increased the quality of our code overall.
Elegantly said. C++ is a little tougher and takes a little effort to learn. The key word being effort. As a PHB I've found that developers who write marginal code in C did write poor code in C++, however I think this comes down to both a person who uses tools and resources targeted to meet a specific purpose and people who stay whith what is comfortable to them reguardless of the fact they may be using the wrong tool for the job.
The interview questions were very good, Glad to see the good ones get bubbled up to the top. Also thanks to Bjarne Stroustrup for taking the time to answer them fully and completely, it's obvious that he spent some time with this.
Good review. I have not read this or the earlier version but it sounds quite good. I wonder how this compares, deviates or compliments the original.
Wow! I've been around /. for about two years or so, and I can never remember a troll post ending up at the top of the heap. Way to go moderators!
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