The FRC is more than welcome to come to/. and argue their side. Jamie is writing more about rights in general, she just happens to be talking a specific incident(s). I think that if she wants to talk to a large group of people (the majority of whom agree with her)/. is the place. Although, I will agree with your first point, she does tend to be kind of boring.
Jamie: We're geeks, if we want to read long winded BS, we have plenty of books. We come here for info and discussion. Please just give us the facts. Maybe, if you really want to write like you currently do, you should see about professional journalism.
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/. is a free site, free to speak your mind. I'm sure you all know how to use the threshold feature. Stop whining about the trolls and the ACs. They are always one of two things.
1. Stupid and moderated down so you don't have to see it. or 2. Funny, marked as such and you get to enjoy the work.
So please stop whining about it. Slashdot is a free site for geeks and the like to hang out at. Remebmer the follys of government (the same holds true for/.). If they make hardcore rules to abolish troll posts, I would say that they would lose a large part of the community simply because we don't like them telling us what we can and cannot post.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
You can use a custom PPP script to connect to any ISP that allows access from Windows Dial Up Networking. Here are some examples. AT&T, Mindspring, Earthlink. These all allow a Windows machine to connect to them directly from Dial Up Networking, therefore, a custom PPP script will also allow you to connect to them (from any distro).
After having a chance to look at more detailed information on the case, I would like to say that Blizzard is in the wrong here. I was thinking (I am not sure why) that this guys motivation was to sell email address' that look like they are from Blizzard Ent. I have decided that Corporations are taking there protected status way too far and I'm sick of it. I hope we can get Blizzard to drop the case and reimburse any fees their careless actions may have accrued for this gentleman.
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That wasn't my point, My point was that myname@blizzard.net looks so much like myname@blizzard.com that there are some people who would love to have an email address like that so they can look like Blizzard employees. That is all my point is.
Adversley I will say that since the website IS NOT being used to slander Blizzard Ent., they are out of line suing over it, I would think it would be more agreeable if they simply asked to buy it. I agree that having a common English word as your company name does not give you exclusive rights to the name.
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First of all, I am one if the biggest proponents of the OSS/GNU movement, but you people need to look beyond the words "Blizzard" & "Lawsuit" and see the real issue here. Have you actualy gone to blizzard.net?
Do you see a legitimate reason for the existence of this domain. It is there for one thing. To make money off poeple who think it would be cool to have an email address that looks like someone from Blizzard ent. Blizzard (whether you like suing or not) has a legitimate case here, they have the right to protect their good name.
One more thing and then I'll close: If a new software company (we'll call them companyX in this example) started up, and made a web site to sell their software http://www.companyX.com. Now lets say Bill Gates came along and built http://www.companyX.net and all that web site did was sell email address'. YOU WOULD BE OUTRAGED. But since it's a company going after a guy, your pissed at the company.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
When Michael mentions free PCs, he is talking about the recent Ford story. Ford is giving it's employees free computers. There is no correlation to this article. The PCs that the airline is searching are private property, and a company has NO fscking right to be looking at private property.
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Thank you for clarifying, it was really late. The latter is the one I am talking about.
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Re:Most people are brainwashed to this stuff too.
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Mr. Slippery CID#91 is right. You can't just say, I want to take away fair use because I am afraid of losing control of my work. Which is what the DMCA does. Besides geekboy, if you would read my comment carefully I say straight out that copying and distributing someone else's work IS ILLEAGEL. What I am saying is that figuring out how to TRANSLATE someone's work and distributing that method, is not. Judge Kaplan and the MPAA disagree on that last point and we need to stop them before this goes down as a precedent case (which by the way would lead the way for killing the free sharing of information.
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Most people are brainwashed to this stuff too.
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The sad thing is that when you try to tell allot of people about this, they just say "your wasting your time" or "your not losing any rights". I really wonder what has happened to the USA in the past 200 years to make people so blind to this kind of stuff. Here is an example I have used to get the message to people in a way they will understand. If you go out and buy a VHS cassette, say the Matrix for example and you know that you are going to watch it allot, you will want to make a backup so you don't wear out the original. The MPAA thinks that is illegal. This is not copyright violation as it falls under fair use. The same if an on-line book was published in German, and I made a program to translate it to English. I would be wrong if I gave away the English version of the book. I am not wrong if I give away my program that translates it, people still have to gain access to the book on their own. I think a huge part of the problem is that so many people live life by Akums Razor (all things being equal the simplest explanation is probably the correct one) and since they don't understand the technical details of the case, it is easier for them to believe what the corporations and the media tell them.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
DoS Attack is when you flood a server so that it cannot perform any other function then to process what you are flooding it with. This in effect denies service to those who would normaly be using the server.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Everybody needs to learn their slashdot history. If you would kindly go to The Archives and listen to the interviews etc, you would know that VA donated the equipment a LONG time ago (before Andover acquired/.)
Tune in next time to learn why Rob Malda chose the name::: CmdrTaco.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
My friend you need to wake up. When you say there is no hope for Linux on a PDA, you are thinking of Linux as a huge, everything installed, monster of an all purpose OS. What you need to realize about Linux (which you haven't apparently) is that Linux is whatever WE want it to be. They don't mean there going to slap a full Suse installation on there, they mean they are going to build an OS based on the Linux kernel. What that means is that they can build it to do everything they want it to and leave out the stuff they don't.
BTW: It's not safe to jump off the "Linux bandwagon" right now, you never leap from a vehicle going over 100 MPH.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
In the example you just gave, the -1 serves as a mathematical function (the act of taking a quantity from) in which the quantity taken is 1 (a real number). The answer to your question is none. Now, can you show me none? NO. Why not, because not is not a literal quantity. Besides I already said that we are talking about a date format.
Ok, watch this: What is this date? 2/2/2 Now what is this date? 02/02/2000.
All the zeros are doing is telling us how far to carry the decimal to make a legitimate quantity (of which zero is still a place holding number).
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
You are correct -1 is not a literal quantity. The whole basis of this discussion is: When being represented in a date format e.g.. 02/02/2000 is 0 a number. The answer is no, it is a place holder. It tells us that 02/ is just letting us know that this place accommodates 2 digits 02/ (same thing) 2000 here the 0s are letting us know how far after the decimal to read thus separating 2000 from 200 or 20 or 2. It is not a number, it is simply holding a place.
BTW, -1 is an imaginary number;)
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Your right, they each that all the way up through 3rd grade. Then they switch on you and 0 is no longer a number, it's a place holder. Why do you think that Roman numerals have no way of expressing the literal quantity "none". Because you can't have (literal quantity) none of something, we just started doing that to keep track of inventory and the like. Plus like kwsNI said, a true number can be divided by itself and will equal 1. 0/0=1 false, 0/0=0 true, therefore 0 is not a number.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Finally someone out there is making some sense. I totally agree, when Linus Torvalds decided to make Linux, did he send out a Usenet message stating "Do you pine to reverse engineer someone else's crap and make a new operating system"??? NO. He asked for people that wanted to help develop a whole new OS. Now there are certain other issues with reverse engineering such as de_css, which I am a strong proponent of it's legality, but on the whole we should be spending a little less time telling these big companies that we want open source______, and show them our completed program that works better than theirs.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Yes. To a certain degree. It does not protect the author from writing intentionally malicious content, but if someone does screw up their system using your software, you are covered.
As an example, look at the Debian distros, they say "Debian GNU Linux comes with NO WARRANTY to the extent permitted by the GNU GPL.
Hope that helps.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
I'll agree with you there. From a network admin standpoint, what they did was legit. You have a network with internet access and a few hundred students using it to chat with Mom back home, this is an unnecessary bandwidth hog. My statement was more directed at all of the schools that are trying to institute new unfair policies./. has not put many articles up about it (except the ASU story, but I think that more and more companies, schools, orgs are all realizing that they cannot over rule an entire community on an issue.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
If Microsoft releases a Linux version of their media player, and we are not satisfied with it, then what? We can't just change it and re-release it can we. We have to hope that they improve it and make one that we like. This is again "stifling innovation". Perhaps that's Microsoft's intention (you know they aren't releasing anything for Linux because they like us). They want to throw some chum in the water and see what happens. I for one don't want ANY Microsoft products on my Linux machine. Not because I hate MS, but because they are a different kind of entity from the Linux community.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
These schools are going to learn a pretty basic concept of society. You cannot get together a bunch of independent individuals, then mold them to your will with bans and policies. The only way to do that is to have those policies in place before you bring in the people so they know about them ahead of time and can choose if they are policies they agree with. More and more institutions are beginning to learn that you cannot control society, not on widespread legitimate issues like this.
Munky_v2 "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Slashdot Mirror
Jamie: We're geeks, if we want to read long winded BS, we have plenty of books. We come here for info and discussion. Please just give us the facts. Maybe, if you really want to write like you currently do, you should see about professional journalism.
Munky_v2
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1. Stupid and moderated down so you don't have to see it.
or
2. Funny, marked as such and you get to enjoy the work.
So please stop whining about it. Slashdot is a free site for geeks and the like to hang out at. Remebmer the follys of government (the same holds true for /.). If they make hardcore rules to abolish troll posts, I would say that they would lose a large part of the community simply because we don't like them telling us what we can and cannot post.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
You can use a custom PPP script to connect to any ISP that allows access from Windows Dial Up Networking. Here are some examples. AT&T, Mindspring, Earthlink. These all allow a Windows machine to connect to them directly from Dial Up Networking, therefore, a custom PPP script will also allow you to connect to them (from any distro).
Check out the Linux Documentation Project for more info on setting up a PPP script.
Munky_v2
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After having a chance to look at more detailed information on the case, I would like to say that Blizzard is in the wrong here. I was thinking (I am not sure why) that this guys motivation was to sell email address' that look like they are from Blizzard Ent. I have decided that Corporations are taking there protected status way too far and I'm sick of it. I hope we can get Blizzard to drop the case and reimburse any fees their careless actions may have accrued for this gentleman.
Munky_v2
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That wasn't my point, My point was that myname@blizzard.net looks so much like myname@blizzard.com that there are some people who would love to have an email address like that so they can look like Blizzard employees. That is all my point is.
Adversley I will say that since the website IS NOT being used to slander Blizzard Ent., they are out of line suing over it, I would think it would be more agreeable if they simply asked to buy it. I agree that having a common English word as your company name does not give you exclusive rights to the name.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
First of all, I am one if the biggest proponents of the OSS/GNU movement, but you people need to look beyond the words "Blizzard" & "Lawsuit" and see the real issue here. Have you actualy gone to blizzard.net?
Do you see a legitimate reason for the existence of this domain. It is there for one thing. To make money off poeple who think it would be cool to have an email address that looks like someone from Blizzard ent. Blizzard (whether you like suing or not) has a legitimate case here, they have the right to protect their good name.
One more thing and then I'll close: If a new software company (we'll call them companyX in this example) started up, and made a web site to sell their software http://www.companyX.com. Now lets say Bill Gates came along and built http://www.companyX.net and all that web site did was sell email address'. YOU WOULD BE OUTRAGED. But since it's a company going after a guy, your pissed at the company.
Munky_v2
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When Michael mentions free PCs, he is talking about the recent Ford story. Ford is giving it's employees free computers. There is no correlation to this article. The PCs that the airline is searching are private property, and a company has NO fscking right to be looking at private property.
Munky_v2
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Thank you for clarifying, it was really late. The latter is the one I am talking about.
Munky_v2
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Mr. Slippery CID#91 is right. You can't just say, I want to take away fair use because I am afraid of losing control of my work. Which is what the DMCA does. Besides geekboy, if you would read my comment carefully I say straight out that copying and distributing someone else's work IS ILLEAGEL. What I am saying is that figuring out how to TRANSLATE someone's work and distributing that method, is not. Judge Kaplan and the MPAA disagree on that last point and we need to stop them before this goes down as a precedent case (which by the way would lead the way for killing the free sharing of information.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
The sad thing is that when you try to tell allot of people about this, they just say "your wasting your time" or "your not losing any rights". I really wonder what has happened to the USA in the past 200 years to make people so blind to this kind of stuff. Here is an example I have used to get the message to people in a way they will understand. If you go out and buy a VHS cassette, say the Matrix for example and you know that you are going to watch it allot, you will want to make a backup so you don't wear out the original. The MPAA thinks that is illegal. This is not copyright violation as it falls under fair use. The same if an on-line book was published in German, and I made a program to translate it to English. I would be wrong if I gave away the English version of the book. I am not wrong if I give away my program that translates it, people still have to gain access to the book on their own. I think a huge part of the problem is that so many people live life by Akums Razor (all things being equal the simplest explanation is probably the correct one) and since they don't understand the technical details of the case, it is easier for them to believe what the corporations and the media tell them.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
DoS Attack is when you flood a server so that it cannot perform any other function then to process what you are flooding it with. This in effect denies service to those who would normaly be using the server.
Munky_v2
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AC = Alan Cox.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Everybody needs to learn their slashdot history. If you would kindly go to The Archives and listen to the interviews etc, you would know that VA donated the equipment a LONG time ago (before Andover acquired /.)
Tune in next time to learn why Rob Malda chose the name::: CmdrTaco.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
My friend you need to wake up. When you say there is no hope for Linux on a PDA, you are thinking of Linux as a huge, everything installed, monster of an all purpose OS. What you need to realize about Linux (which you haven't apparently) is that Linux is whatever WE want it to be. They don't mean there going to slap a full Suse installation on there, they mean they are going to build an OS based on the Linux kernel. What that means is that they can build it to do everything they want it to and leave out the stuff they don't.
BTW: It's not safe to jump off the "Linux bandwagon" right now, you never leap from a vehicle going over 100 MPH.
Munky_v2
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Actually it wouldn't be that hard, simply mimic the browser in the program, and have it return the theoretical result of the finished page.
Munky_v2
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Ok, watch this:
What is this date? 2/2/2
Now what is this date? 02/02/2000.
All the zeros are doing is telling us how far to carry the decimal to make a legitimate quantity (of which zero is still a place holding number).
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
client sided script program that checks the HTML for these malicious tags before allowing the browser to run them.
Munky_v2
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You are correct -1 is not a literal quantity. The whole basis of this discussion is: When being represented in a date format e.g.. 02/02/2000 is 0 a number. The answer is no, it is a place holder. It tells us that 02/ is just letting us know that this place accommodates 2 digits 02/ (same thing) 2000 here the 0s are letting us know how far after the decimal to read thus separating 2000 from 200 or 20 or 2. It is not a number, it is simply holding a place.
;)
BTW, -1 is an imaginary number
Munky_v2
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Try here.
BTW, our discussion is using the rule that to be a number zero must represent a quantity (which in dates it does not, it simply holds a place).
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Your right, they each that all the way up through 3rd grade. Then they switch on you and 0 is no longer a number, it's a place holder. Why do you think that Roman numerals have no way of expressing the literal quantity "none". Because you can't have (literal quantity) none of something, we just started doing that to keep track of inventory and the like. Plus like kwsNI said, a true number can be divided by itself and will equal 1. 0/0=1 false, 0/0=0 true, therefore 0 is not a number.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Finally someone out there is making some sense. I totally agree, when Linus Torvalds decided to make Linux, did he send out a Usenet message stating "Do you pine to reverse engineer someone else's crap and make a new operating system"??? NO. He asked for people that wanted to help develop a whole new OS. Now there are certain other issues with reverse engineering such as de_css, which I am a strong proponent of it's legality, but on the whole we should be spending a little less time telling these big companies that we want open source______, and show them our completed program that works better than theirs.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
Yes. To a certain degree. It does not protect the author from writing intentionally malicious content, but if someone does screw up their system using your software, you are covered.
As an example, look at the Debian distros, they say "Debian GNU Linux comes with NO WARRANTY to the extent permitted by the GNU GPL.
Hope that helps.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
I'll agree with you there. From a network admin standpoint, what they did was legit. You have a network with internet access and a few hundred students using it to chat with Mom back home, this is an unnecessary bandwidth hog. My statement was more directed at all of the schools that are trying to institute new unfair policies. /. has not put many articles up about it (except the ASU story, but I think that more and more companies, schools, orgs are all realizing that they cannot over rule an entire community on an issue.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
If Microsoft releases a Linux version of their media player, and we are not satisfied with it, then what? We can't just change it and re-release it can we. We have to hope that they improve it and make one that we like. This is again "stifling innovation". Perhaps that's Microsoft's intention (you know they aren't releasing anything for Linux because they like us). They want to throw some chum in the water and see what happens. I for one don't want ANY Microsoft products on my Linux machine. Not because I hate MS, but because they are a different kind of entity from the Linux community.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."
These schools are going to learn a pretty basic concept of society. You cannot get together a bunch of independent individuals, then mold them to your will with bans and policies. The only way to do that is to have those policies in place before you bring in the people so they know about them ahead of time and can choose if they are policies they agree with. More and more institutions are beginning to learn that you cannot control society, not on widespread legitimate issues like this.
Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."