..those filthy places that smell like urine, have sticky floors, crap all over the screens, surround you with obnoxious people on all sides, and then charge you a small fortune for this terrible experience? Hahaha f*** off. Let them die.
The same as anywhere else? My sofa is hand crafted. It's defect free, but if it weren't then the crafter would have to fix it (tear in the leather, broken support, etc). Why would you think the definition of defect wouldn't apply?
Can confirm I've fought manufacturers on their 'dead pixel policies' before in Oz and won, with the help of the ACCC. Basically a defect is 'Anything that would prevent the consumer from buying one instance of a product over another instance of the same product if they knew about it in advance', and dead pixels are considered defects by this definition, and manufacturers can't refuse replacement on defective products, period. The '7 day' or '30 day' policies are also not enforceable, if you get dead pixels 9 months down the road they still have to fix or replace. Even if it's 1 dead pixel.
Nintendo will not be able to enforce this policy here, though it might be quite time consuming and tedious to make them comply.
(nb: I am not a lawyer but I've been in this boat before)
If you bought a game and want a refund after an hour or two of trying to get things to work right, that's perfectly fine. 50 hours? No way.
You're forgetting the part where the developer, lying, told users 'There's lots out there you just have to explore and find it!' - Some were more trusting of this than others and spent more time exploring trying to find these things that, it turns out, don't actually exist in the game. Spending 50 hours being naive doesn't mean you're a thief while the person who clued in after 8 hours isn't. Both are victims of fraud and deserve their refunds.
Oh the apprehension isn't over the technology or advances we could make. Just the thought of a allegedly benevolent but utterly secretive alien from the Babylon 5 universe being so excited about tinkering with our DNA.
The point is not all of them have, which would be fine except those who haven't are being pressured and actively ridiculed by those who have - which is wrong and definitely not in the spirit of FOSS. Lennart made a claim previously that the Open Source Community is "quite a sick place to be in". This is in fact in no small part due to his own project's political maneuvering and strong-arming which others outside of the systemd camp have noticed and take exceptional issue with.
If someone want to use systemd they can go right ahead. That is their right and I would not dare to suppress that right or insult them for exercising it. But when systemd proponents start pressuring other distros to get on board and ridiculing those who say no and throwing baseless ad-hominem attacks at their users who don't want it, that is exactly what they are doing - trying to suppress those users' rights and insulting them for exercising it and turning FOSS into quite a sick place to be in. As awesome as systemd might be, the community and politics around it disgusts me and I want no part of it.
I'm sure this might seem like a flamebait post to some but it has been my experience and I think both sides of 'the debate' need to take a step back and recall that we're all in this together so lets stop trashing each other and pushing agendas and come to a mutually agreeable compatible outcome instead of acting like religious extremists.
I don't think we are assuming our current theories are totally correct, otherwise we wouldn't be looking for new physics (in the form of dark matter particles) to explain what we're seeing. Signs tend to indicate though that out current mode of thinking is correct but incomplete, as opposed to being completely wrong, which is why we're not throwing out everything and starting again from scratch.
I have yet to see any proof that No-IP are 'shady', I've been using them myself for legitimate purposes for quite a while (devices that roam physical networks, non-static adsl connections, etc) and have no reason to believe they are doing anything untoward. Also no one 'alleged' their businesses were disrupted - it is a fact that they were. It is unfortunate that some businesses don't see the value and justification of purchasing a domain, static IP and setting up DNS hosting along with other services but I do know many that use dynamic DNS services and home adsl plans at their offices instead to try to trim overheads as much as possible. When Microsoft hijacked No-IP's domains their DNS servers were not returning A-records, poorly deployed SOHO websites and self-hosted OWS become unreachable to staff outside the office and customers. Business is affected. Sure you can argue that people shouldn't use dynamic DNS services for important things but that doesn't change the fact that they do, and this affected them greatly.
I'll respond to this with what I've said in another post already:
Because no person or group of people have any right at all to dictate what another person or group of people do with their own bodies. EVER. History has proven that this ALWAYS ends in disaster. Why? Because people are people. You might know better today but you're still a person and will still take that precedent as license to push your control even further until someone ends up oppressed and enslaved. And if not you then your successor. Or theirs.
Society is free to expel people, sure. But it is not free to violate their bodies, the only thing an individual can truly own. Why is this fine line so hard for all the 'pro-vaxers' to discriminate. (I quote that to highlight the difference between those who are merely pro-vaccination and the zealout group 'pro-vaxers' who keep insisting that any talk against an overly-reaching government makes you an 'anti-vaxer')
Because no person or group of people have any right at all to dictate what another person or group of people do with their own bodies. EVER. History has proven that this ALWAYS ends in disaster. Why? Because people are people. You might know better today but you're still a person and will still take that precedent as license to push your control even further until someone ends up oppressed and enslaved. And if not you then your successor. Or theirs.
Society is free to expel people, sure. But it is not free to violate their bodies, the only thing an individual can truly own. Why is this fine line so hard for all the 'pro-vaxers' to discriminate. (I quote that to highlight the difference between those who are merely pro-vaccination and the zealout group 'pro-vaxers' who keep insisting that any talk against an overly-reaching government makes you an 'anti-vaxer')
Because no person or group of people have any right at all to dictate what another person or group of people do with their own bodies. EVER. History has proven that this ALWAYS ends in disaster. Why? Because people are people. You might know better today but you're still a person and will still take that precedent as license to push your control even further until someone ends up oppressed and enslaved. And if not you then your successor. Or theirs.
Society is free to expel people, sure. But it is not free to violate their bodies, the only thing an individual can truly own. Why is this fine line so hard for all the 'pro-vaxers' to discriminate. (I quote that to highlight the difference between those who are merely pro-vaccination and the zealout group 'pro-vaxers' who keep insisting that any talk against an overly-reaching government makes you an 'anti-vaxer')
Thanks for trying, but I think it's moot. Anyone with a strong opinion on this topic seems unable to carry out a rational conversation on it. Kind of reminds me of the creationism topic. Almost as if to have an opinion at all is to be a zealot per default or something regardless of the point of view you've adopted. Any one else who's opinion doesn't fit in to side A or side B has to be forced in to one or the other somehow so that you can label and judge them accordingly.
'If I yell louder than you then I'm right and all my time spent believing hasn't been wasted'
Again with the hyperbole.. It's not everyone. It's not even remotely close to everyone. And for the third time now I'm not against vaccinations - I've had them and will have my children have them. That's not the point. Please learn to read and stop regurgitating rote-taught indoctrination k thx.
Everybody? Hyperbole much? Since when do infants + immunodeficient people == everybody? I imagine that'll be the net end result once you're done removing natural selection from the evolutionary process though. But that's another topic really.
Why is it so hard for you to read? It really speaks volumes about your mindless nature when you instantly strawman any argument on the topic in to being 'you are completely against vaccinations! omg/you're one of them/!' - For the second time, I've had my shots, the important ones. I wouldn't stop my children from having them either. But I do believe no external party has a right to dictate what I let bypass by body's natural filters and enter my blood stream. And you *are* a fucking idiot if you think that's unreasonable. You deserve the police state you're trying to bring in to being. You want to hand over all rights to your own physical being then go right ahead, I won't stop you. I'll stand here alive, healthy, and sentient pitying you. Oh yes, I have empathy. And right now it's screaming to think of the world you're trying to bring in to existence. The world where you have no rights *at all*, where you're a property of the state for the state to do with what they wish. Do you honestly want that? Can you really say that you're not a government shill and still want that?
When did I say that? If you read what I post I do take vaccinations, I just carefully weigh the actual benefit/risk first instead of jumping on the seasonal vaccination of fashion.
Why should you or anyone who's had their vaccinations care what I do with my own fucking body? It's not your right to decide nor is it the court's or the government's. SPECIALLY when you've had your vaccinations and can't catch it if they work, right? right? How dare you presume to have any say at all in the matter. Seriously. You and people like you are a disease. I wish there was a vaccination for/that/.
Exactly. Having a government department decide that you are to be forced to have a corporation-manufactured product injected into your body is orders of magnitude more dangerous than either any potential side effect from the vaccination on the individual or the danger to the community from the individual not being vaccinated. I can't understand why both the pro-vaccination group and a lot of the anti-vaccination group fail to see this argument.
Would I get vaccinated or let my children be vaccinated? If the threat was real enough, yes. But would I let a government make that decision for me/them? Hell no. I'd start killing people long before submitting to that tyranny.
Basically, this law will be used against people the Powers That Be consider either a threat, or weak enough to serve as good examples of what happens to those who fight the system. Along with a few actual malicious hackers.
And everyone who visits my site for any reason without donating $5 via the paypal button I place on it after every single page load as indicated in my ToS.
Can you link to an article or such that states he physically entered a server room and installed unauthorized equipment? The dozens of articles I've seen all make no mention of that.
It wasn't even trespass really. From what I read he had permission to access the servers, just not in the manner in which he did (automated crawler). This is more like being invited inside the house, but then stepping on the carpet before taking your shoes off (inconsiderate, but not intentionally malicious), apologizing and stepping back but having your host call the police on you and trying to file charges for damages against you anyway, then the overzealous police chasing you down even though your host has admitted they over reacted and no longer wish to pursue the matter.
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..those filthy places that smell like urine, have sticky floors, crap all over the screens, surround you with obnoxious people on all sides, and then charge you a small fortune for this terrible experience? Hahaha f*** off. Let them die.
(Had to vent.)
The same as anywhere else? My sofa is hand crafted. It's defect free, but if it weren't then the crafter would have to fix it (tear in the leather, broken support, etc). Why would you think the definition of defect wouldn't apply?
Can confirm I've fought manufacturers on their 'dead pixel policies' before in Oz and won, with the help of the ACCC. Basically a defect is 'Anything that would prevent the consumer from buying one instance of a product over another instance of the same product if they knew about it in advance', and dead pixels are considered defects by this definition, and manufacturers can't refuse replacement on defective products, period. The '7 day' or '30 day' policies are also not enforceable, if you get dead pixels 9 months down the road they still have to fix or replace. Even if it's 1 dead pixel. Nintendo will not be able to enforce this policy here, though it might be quite time consuming and tedious to make them comply. (nb: I am not a lawyer but I've been in this boat before)
If you bought a game and want a refund after an hour or two of trying to get things to work right, that's perfectly fine. 50 hours? No way.
You're forgetting the part where the developer, lying, told users 'There's lots out there you just have to explore and find it!' - Some were more trusting of this than others and spent more time exploring trying to find these things that, it turns out, don't actually exist in the game. Spending 50 hours being naive doesn't mean you're a thief while the person who clued in after 8 hours isn't. Both are victims of fraud and deserve their refunds.
Oh the apprehension isn't over the technology or advances we could make. Just the thought of a allegedly benevolent but utterly secretive alien from the Babylon 5 universe being so excited about tinkering with our DNA.
*looks at your username*
*looks at your user ID*
*feels a bit anxious and apprehensive*
The point is not all of them have, which would be fine except those who haven't are being pressured and actively ridiculed by those who have - which is wrong and definitely not in the spirit of FOSS. Lennart made a claim previously that the Open Source Community is "quite a sick place to be in". This is in fact in no small part due to his own project's political maneuvering and strong-arming which others outside of the systemd camp have noticed and take exceptional issue with.
If someone want to use systemd they can go right ahead. That is their right and I would not dare to suppress that right or insult them for exercising it. But when systemd proponents start pressuring other distros to get on board and ridiculing those who say no and throwing baseless ad-hominem attacks at their users who don't want it, that is exactly what they are doing - trying to suppress those users' rights and insulting them for exercising it and turning FOSS into quite a sick place to be in. As awesome as systemd might be, the community and politics around it disgusts me and I want no part of it.
I'm sure this might seem like a flamebait post to some but it has been my experience and I think both sides of 'the debate' need to take a step back and recall that we're all in this together so lets stop trashing each other and pushing agendas and come to a mutually agreeable compatible outcome instead of acting like religious extremists.
I don't think we are assuming our current theories are totally correct, otherwise we wouldn't be looking for new physics (in the form of dark matter particles) to explain what we're seeing. Signs tend to indicate though that out current mode of thinking is correct but incomplete, as opposed to being completely wrong, which is why we're not throwing out everything and starting again from scratch.
I have yet to see any proof that No-IP are 'shady', I've been using them myself for legitimate purposes for quite a while (devices that roam physical networks, non-static adsl connections, etc) and have no reason to believe they are doing anything untoward. Also no one 'alleged' their businesses were disrupted - it is a fact that they were. It is unfortunate that some businesses don't see the value and justification of purchasing a domain, static IP and setting up DNS hosting along with other services but I do know many that use dynamic DNS services and home adsl plans at their offices instead to try to trim overheads as much as possible. When Microsoft hijacked No-IP's domains their DNS servers were not returning A-records, poorly deployed SOHO websites and self-hosted OWS become unreachable to staff outside the office and customers. Business is affected. Sure you can argue that people shouldn't use dynamic DNS services for important things but that doesn't change the fact that they do, and this affected them greatly.
Chicksdaddy's post smells of astroturfing.
Society's right includes 'kick you out', but ends before 'penetrate your body'
Because no person or group of people have any right at all to dictate what another person or group of people do with their own bodies. EVER. History has proven that this ALWAYS ends in disaster. Why? Because people are people. You might know better today but you're still a person and will still take that precedent as license to push your control even further until someone ends up oppressed and enslaved. And if not you then your successor. Or theirs.
Society is free to expel people, sure. But it is not free to violate their bodies, the only thing an individual can truly own. Why is this fine line so hard for all the 'pro-vaxers' to discriminate. (I quote that to highlight the difference between those who are merely pro-vaccination and the zealout group 'pro-vaxers' who keep insisting that any talk against an overly-reaching government makes you an 'anti-vaxer')
Because no person or group of people have any right at all to dictate what another person or group of people do with their own bodies. EVER. History has proven that this ALWAYS ends in disaster. Why? Because people are people. You might know better today but you're still a person and will still take that precedent as license to push your control even further until someone ends up oppressed and enslaved. And if not you then your successor. Or theirs.
Society is free to expel people, sure. But it is not free to violate their bodies, the only thing an individual can truly own. Why is this fine line so hard for all the 'pro-vaxers' to discriminate. (I quote that to highlight the difference between those who are merely pro-vaccination and the zealout group 'pro-vaxers' who keep insisting that any talk against an overly-reaching government makes you an 'anti-vaxer')
Because no person or group of people have any right at all to dictate what another person or group of people do with their own bodies. EVER. History has proven that this ALWAYS ends in disaster. Why? Because people are people. You might know better today but you're still a person and will still take that precedent as license to push your control even further until someone ends up oppressed and enslaved. And if not you then your successor. Or theirs.
Society is free to expel people, sure. But it is not free to violate their bodies, the only thing an individual can truly own. Why is this fine line so hard for all the 'pro-vaxers' to discriminate. (I quote that to highlight the difference between those who are merely pro-vaccination and the zealout group 'pro-vaxers' who keep insisting that any talk against an overly-reaching government makes you an 'anti-vaxer')
Thanks for trying, but I think it's moot. Anyone with a strong opinion on this topic seems unable to carry out a rational conversation on it. Kind of reminds me of the creationism topic. Almost as if to have an opinion at all is to be a zealot per default or something regardless of the point of view you've adopted. Any one else who's opinion doesn't fit in to side A or side B has to be forced in to one or the other somehow so that you can label and judge them accordingly.
'If I yell louder than you then I'm right and all my time spent believing hasn't been wasted'
Anti-police state is not the same as anti-vaccination. Please learn to think.
Again with the hyperbole.. It's not everyone. It's not even remotely close to everyone. And for the third time now I'm not against vaccinations - I've had them and will have my children have them. That's not the point. Please learn to read and stop regurgitating rote-taught indoctrination k thx.
Everybody? Hyperbole much? Since when do infants + immunodeficient people == everybody? I imagine that'll be the net end result once you're done removing natural selection from the evolutionary process though. But that's another topic really. Why is it so hard for you to read? It really speaks volumes about your mindless nature when you instantly strawman any argument on the topic in to being 'you are completely against vaccinations! omg /you're one of them/!' - For the second time, I've had my shots, the important ones. I wouldn't stop my children from having them either. But I do believe no external party has a right to dictate what I let bypass by body's natural filters and enter my blood stream. And you *are* a fucking idiot if you think that's unreasonable. You deserve the police state you're trying to bring in to being. You want to hand over all rights to your own physical being then go right ahead, I won't stop you. I'll stand here alive, healthy, and sentient pitying you. Oh yes, I have empathy. And right now it's screaming to think of the world you're trying to bring in to existence. The world where you have no rights *at all*, where you're a property of the state for the state to do with what they wish. Do you honestly want that? Can you really say that you're not a government shill and still want that?
When did I say that? If you read what I post I do take vaccinations, I just carefully weigh the actual benefit/risk first instead of jumping on the seasonal vaccination of fashion.
Why should you or anyone who's had their vaccinations care what I do with my own fucking body? It's not your right to decide nor is it the court's or the government's. SPECIALLY when you've had your vaccinations and can't catch it if they work, right? right? How dare you presume to have any say at all in the matter. Seriously. You and people like you are a disease. I wish there was a vaccination for /that/.
The context of this debate extends beyond the context of this article.
Exactly. Having a government department decide that you are to be forced to have a corporation-manufactured product injected into your body is orders of magnitude more dangerous than either any potential side effect from the vaccination on the individual or the danger to the community from the individual not being vaccinated. I can't understand why both the pro-vaccination group and a lot of the anti-vaccination group fail to see this argument. Would I get vaccinated or let my children be vaccinated? If the threat was real enough, yes. But would I let a government make that decision for me/them? Hell no. I'd start killing people long before submitting to that tyranny.
"If a big bang happens in a forest, and no one is around..."
Basically, this law will be used against people the Powers That Be consider either a threat, or weak enough to serve as good examples of what happens to those who fight the system. Along with a few actual malicious hackers.
And everyone who visits my site for any reason without donating $5 via the paypal button I place on it after every single page load as indicated in my ToS.
Can you link to an article or such that states he physically entered a server room and installed unauthorized equipment? The dozens of articles I've seen all make no mention of that.
It wasn't even trespass really. From what I read he had permission to access the servers, just not in the manner in which he did (automated crawler). This is more like being invited inside the house, but then stepping on the carpet before taking your shoes off (inconsiderate, but not intentionally malicious), apologizing and stepping back but having your host call the police on you and trying to file charges for damages against you anyway, then the overzealous police chasing you down even though your host has admitted they over reacted and no longer wish to pursue the matter.