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Christopher Nolan and Sofia Coppola Urge Fans To Watch Films in Cinemas, Not On Netflix (theguardian.com)
Christopher Nolan and Sofia Coppola have urged audiences to see their films in the cinema at a time when the movie industry is reckoning with the growing popularity of video on demand and streaming platforms such as Netflix and Amazon. From a report: Presenting their forthcoming films at CinemaCon, the annual convention organised by the National Association of Theatre Owners, the directors said that they hoped fans opted to watch them at movie theatres, where they were "meant to be seen." Nolan made his comments during a presentation of his second world war drama Dunkirk, at which he previewed footage from the film. "This is a story that needs to carry you through the suspenseful situation, and make you feel like you are there, and the only way to do that is through theatrical distribution," Nolan told the audience. "I am depending and relying on all of you to try to present this film in the best way possible." Coppola echoed Nolan's comments during a Focus Features presentation for The Beguiled, a remake of the Clint Eastwood civil war drama starring Colin Farrell and Nicole Kidman.
Then tell the annoying teenagers behind me to shut the hell up if you want me to go to a theater.
My ticket is not going to make a dent in your gross revenue.
no, thanks.
Buy my ticket and I'll go watch it in a cinema with noisy people and phone glare and expensive food....instead of my quiet, private movie room. Otherwise, go fuck yourself, I'll spend my money how I want.
I get more than 1 month of netflix subscription for the cost of 1 cinema ticket. And this is without the overpriced popcorn..
If your art isn't meant to be seen at home then don't give them the option. Otherwise don't complain when they watch it at home
If movies were $5 everyone would go, and everyone would make ridiculous money. But in our world if i want to take my family to a movie it costs $100+. The only people who see movies in the theaters a dumbasses.
"Please support a dying business model because our industry is too stupid to innovate"
I'd love to. I enjoy seeing movies in a real theater.
But I have small children, so there is little opportunity to go out. Netflix and other online providers are my best hope for seeing any movies at all, and even then I see them only long after they've left the theaters.
If you don't want people to watch it on Netflix, don't sell it to them. But, I bet you would make a lot less money if you didn't.
... different people have different preferences. One person may love to see Nolan's "Dunkirk" on a huge cinema screen, where the experience is probably quite overpowering. Another may prefer to pop the Dunkirk Bluray into his living room Bluray player and experience the film on a smaller screen in the comfort of his home. Also, some people - like working adults with children - simply don't have the time for a 3+ hour trip to the local multiplex. I used to love going to the cinema when I was 13 - 25 years old. I wanted to watch everything on the big screen. These days I like watching Bluray's or streaming movies at home - some even on a laptop screen with headphones on. The films still work. After the first 3 minutes, you forget what kind of screen you are watching on. You cannot expect everybody, in this day and age, to prefer cinema over home viewing options.
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I take my kids to movies in theaters and we always do 3D which is fun.
Otherwise, they need to update the configuration of theaters to enhance the experience.
I suggest they use the Oatmeal's suggestions:
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. . . does that work for you ? Because it works for me. No crying babies, chatty teens, or rude patrons playing with their smartphones. Better bathroom, and I can pause the movie while I take care of that. And no highly overpriced "refreshments". . .
. . . and besides, afterwards, I can re-watch scenes, and even MST3K them if warranted. . .
I'd love to, but for the price of seeing one movie at a set time (admittedly in a very nice environment) I can subscribe to Netflix and watch anything they have the time of my choosing for a month.
Theaters suck, I will never go to a theater again
Drive across town, pay to park, drive around looking for a spot, walk to the theater, wait in line, try to find a good seat, wait until the movie starts while being forced to watch commercials
Once it starts, it can't be stopped, paused or rewound
Worst of all..no subtitles. I'm old with bad ears (too many years in the rock band). Without subtitles it's almost impossible to make out what the actors are saying, especially when the music and FX are mixed loud
At home, I can have a beer and a reasonable priced snack, while being in control
Instead of simply asserting there's some sort of magical experience that a only a theater can provide, how about theaters actually focus on differentiating themselves? It's clear they've lost the technology race, as good sound system, large and 3d televisions are relatively affordable, etc. You have a group of strangers in a room together, watching a film. Right now, I think many of us perceive this as a negative, as there are usually a few who are rude/noisy, using their phones, etc. Turn that negative into a positive. Turn that room full of strangers with a shared interest into a community. See Rocky Horror Picture Show for details.
How about writing some new stories, instead of remaking movies?
But really, people want to see movies in the comfort of their own home, not be ripped off for popcorn. Deal with it.
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"This is a story that needs to carry you through the suspenseful situation, and make you feel like you are there, and the only way to do that is through theatrical distribution," Nolan told the audience.
That may have been true some 10-15 years ago when average TV sizes were still pretty small and home theater setups were prohibitively expensive. But now I can get a 60" TV for $400, and a HTIB for ~$300. That used to be the price of just a TV, and a small one at that.
Last time I went to the theater (last weekend) I had an obnoxious kid talking on one side of me, and another kicking my seat. I think I'll manage with my big screen, surround sound, and a beer in one hand.
As soon as they stop charging so much. Let's be real here - this has nothing to do with "the way they're meant to be seen" and everything to do with "the ridiculous amount of money I make".
That's like saying bath salts are only meant to be used while taking a bath.
...where they were meant to be seen.
That's a movie I actually will watch in theaters, just because it looks to be a film that benefits from the big screen experience. I'm willing to pay to see large-scale films that take advantage of every inch of the screen and benefit from having big speakers...but tickets here are less than $5 for a regular screening and around $8 for an IMAX screening, so I can afford to do that easily. Were I paying as much for tickets as others mention they pay, my large, high-def TV with surround audio would have to suffice.
Of course, the vast majority of films are little more than "junk food" media. They don't push boundaries or improve significantly when viewed with a bigger screen and better audio, so the theater experience is wasted on them. I'll wait for those to come to Netflix or RedBox before watching them, assuming I watch them at all.
As long as theatres feel that "making up the difference" means overcharging their remaining customers, they'll continue to lose their following.
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That's cool, but maybe if it didn't cost me around $90 to go to the movie with my wife and two kids ($16ea for adult, $13ea for kids) plus 1large($7.50) and 1medium($5) popcorn, medium drinks x4 ($4ea) then if we feel like having a sugary treat add another $3 for each of those.
Or...we could stay home and watch a movie on Netflix and pay $10 for the WHOLE month, unlimited views, and we can devour that 15pack of Act2 Popcorn over the course of the month that cost like $8 to buy.
So yeah, $90 for a night, or $18 for a month...
Really, I was just about to cancel. But now I'm keeping Netflix for sure. When are the entitled Hollywood types going to realize that they are not in a position to ask for charity? Nolan, Coppola_ go back to work making content. You have no influence over where that content will be consumed. When I feel like going out and getting popcorn with friends or family, I'll go to the theater. I may or may not pay to see a first run movie when I do so. I may go to the cheap theater or a rivival house too. Nothing has changed. You two, though, Nolan and Coppola---you're TERRIBLE popcorn salespeople. Theater owners take note. Next year, talk about how the popcorn is better than microwave.
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So, um, you want me to not view the movie in my preferre environment away from loud children, sweaty smelling people, people talking/texting, sticky floors, small uncomfortable seats, etc and pay more for it, just because you want more royalties. No, thank you, you don't need another expensive sports car quite that much.
Me and my wife have different tastes in movies, so we can rarely find one that we can both agree to go watch in theaters. If we do go to a theater to see a movie, we go to one of the new types of theaters that serve food and drinks at the seats, which means it's an easy $40-50. I'm already paying for premium movies channels on cable, have access to Netflix, and there are Redboxes all over the place we can use too. There is simply no incentive in most cases to see a movie in theaters anymore.
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What about being unable to
I still prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my home while nothing and no one are distracting me from them.
build me a clean theater, that is allergy friendly, or stop living in roaring 20's or the shunning 1600's or whatver...
Has anyone else noticed how bad the sound-mixing is in Nolan's films when in theaters. You can barely hear what the actors are saying. It was like this for Dark Knight Rises and Interstellar. I did some research on it and apparently its a creative choice. Nolan is one of the only directors that could still get me to go to the cinema anymore. But if the sound mix for Dunkirk is terrible, I'll be waiting to see it on Netflix. I have a home theater set up that's comparable to a full theater anyways.
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I live 5-minutes from a major theatre, I go once every few years. Even if you can get a seat in a decent viewing position you're still stuck with an uncomfortable seat. At 6'1" I'm tall, but normal tall and yet the only way I fit in seats is to cross my shins.
Insult to injury, a single ticket is ballpark of a blueray and much more expensive than renting.
This is not how it works. the movie industry needs to adapt to a changing world. You can't simply ask the audience to NOT do things in ways they would prefer to do them to preserve the status quo. I mean, you can.. assuming you want to go the way of blockbuster.
Please please watch in the most expensive format for the viewer that also gives us the most share of the profits.
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Design them to be seen on my TV, I have no interest in theaters. kthxbai
Why is it that Hollywood personalities suddenly think people should care about their opinions as if they were scholars?
"The Beguiled, a remake of the Clint Eastwood civil war drama"
I actually do go see movies in a theater relatively often, but I prefer to spend that money and effort when the movie in question is an original work that I think will be worth it, as opposed to endless remakes and comic character sequels...
and the $30 for pop and popcorn and I'll go watch it.
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I will see more movies in the theater if Hollywood makes movies that are worth paying $10 to see once. Frankly, in the last year, there haven't been a lot of those. Rogue One
and Get Out are the only ones that come to mind.
Otherwise, my wife and I can watch Netflix or Amazon Prime on our big screen TV, in our pajamas, and have a more comfortable experience. Plus my homemade popcorn recipe is cheaper and tastes better than theater popcorn.
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First of all, yes you can have a big screen, surround sound, and a beer at home. But, you can have all those, plus a wide,comfy leatherish recliner, reserved seating, at modern theatres. Yes, my local multiplex has a full bar and even a kitchen that makes reasonably edible sandwiches.
But here's the difference: once you're in the theatre, you respect the movie. You don't pause it to take a whiz, or answer a text from a friend (I hope!), etc. So there is something to be said for being in a theatre and giving your full attention to the movie.
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Sure, I feel for the pain of low-budget but good movies and all the effort that goes into making these. But this industry is getting (has been) ruined by big budget marketing, sky high salaries, excessive prices of movie tickets, liberal movie goers, discriminatory political egos of actors and others, etc, etc.
I choose to not participate with my money. In fact, I choose to download for "free". I don't even care about Netflix. Hollywood and the movie industry mean nothing to me.
A Hollywood movie experience is not the same one as your typical sticky-floor cinema. When the stars attend a showing, it's an event where people go to watch it. No slobs are present and the place is likely immaculate. That's a lot like my home Netflix based movie watching. Thanks for your suggestion anyway.
The theatrical experience is no longer so much better than that you can get at home. With big TV screens and sound systems available at prices that the vast majority of the population can afford, the theatrical experience is not that compelling any more. Sure, the sound is louder, but that is it. Theaters should start providing something else that you cannot easily get at home - and I say "else" because couples have been using the advantages of the theaters for generations. When it comes to just watching movies, the theater is not that compelling any longer.
Christopher Nolan and Sofia Coppola have urged audiences to see their films in the cinema at a time when the movie industry is reckoning with the growing popularity of video on demand and streaming platforms such as Netflix and Amazon.
Translation: We're in charge of the current situation and if it changes we'll have less control.
Boo-hoo. Not my problem.
"This is a story that needs to carry you through the suspenseful situation, and make you feel like you are there, and the only way to do that is through theatrical distribution"
Bullshit. Maybe that's the only way it works for him but I can decide for myself what the best way for me to view a particular movie is. Sometimes that's the theater but I have a large 4K screen at home with a good sound system too. For me I enjoy going to the theater but more as a social outing than for any practical movie going reason. It's certainly not convenient to go. The best theaters offer amenities I cannot get at home and that might be more than just the movie. If I can replicate the experience to a good approximation in my house why would I bother going to a theater and paying a lot of money? Big screen? Got it. Popcorn? Check. Dark room? No problem. Good sound? Probably better than most theaters. What is he really offering me that I don't already have? Give me something more if you want me to make the extra effort to go to a theater.
"I am depending and relying on all of you to try to present this film in the best way possible."
Whose definition of best? The only one I care about is mine. If our opinions of "best" happen to match then fine but I'm not worried about what the director wants. I'll enjoy art on my terms, not someone elses.
I urge directors to buy my ticket if they're so concerned about me seeing their films in the theater.
Last night I watched the IMAX 3D of Ghost in the Shell, does that count?
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Popcorn should be 2 bucks. Half the showings of films which are not specifically targeted to children should be adults only. At some times the theaters should serve beer. Cell phone rule violators should get a lifetime theater ban.
And - most importantly - you DO NOT show commercials for anything beyond 2 or 3 movie trailers after the official start time (Might be more of Canadian problem with the One True Monopoly theater chain).
Why is this guy defending the corrupt middleman who screws both movie producers and movie consumers? I'm happy paying for people to make films, but I'm not happy paying a middleman who adds no value.
Hey Christian/Sofia,
Are you volunteering to babysit my kid, then?
It is practical to enjoy the cinema experience at home more than it has been in the past. TVs are better. Sound systems are better and relatively inexpensive. Delivery systems are better. Sure Netflix might not have the movie but I can rent it from Amazon or Apple or cable. Then it's also way more convenient. I can see a movie starting at 1 am with 7 buckets of popcorn. There are no screaming children or obnoxious other patrons.
Of course, I will see a movie in the theater, but I usually pick movie chains that offer beer and food and better quality seats.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNawiuhSUU
notice it is paced at the rate of heroine and meth.
Fans urge Christopher Nolan and Sofia Coppola to make Netflix their primary distribution model.
There are plenty of fantastic, high-quality, engaging stories being told in long and short form through Netflix. Challenge yourselves to do the same with your story-telling.
I'm sorry, but your opinion seems to be wrong.
...then remove ads at theaters, I'm not paying to watch ads.
Note, I already only attend matinées at reduced rates, so consider that in terms of what I'm willing to pay already.
(I've thankfully not been bothered by other rude patrons, and find films often enhanced by shared reactions, but for many people you'd have to eliminate the audience too.)
Music has changed to reduce the deeper tones not resolved in tiny earbud headphones, as fewer listen via speakers nowadays, perhaps movies should likewise adapt to how they are consumed?
You want me to soend $20 on a ticket to see a movie once with a bunch of people...most of whom dont know how to behave in public. You want me to pay out the butt for a beverage and snack. Screw that. I'll wait till it comes on HBO or something...where I can eat affordable food...pause when I need to pee...and enjoy the movie by myself on a 70" screen with 9.2 sound thats at a volume other than "goodbye eardrums"
about what those rich cunts say.
I haven't been to the theater in almost my entire adult life (maybe twenty years, now). The theater offers pretty much nothing I can't get at home. Also, I've seen Sofia Copalas films . . . if I went through the time and effort and trouble and cash to see one of her films in the theater, I would be pretty fucking pissed.
You keep making films like The Dark Knight and Interstellar, and I'll keep watching them in the theater! I really enjoyed watching Interstellar in 3D.
Memento, The Prestige, Inception... all good films imho, but I'm not sure what the theater would add. I regret going to the theater for The Dark Knight Rises. Actually Inception was interesting in the theater, but it just wasn't the movie I thought it was going to be.
I'll bet Inception would be really good in a cannabis club with a theater room. There's an idea for those of you out there in Denver.
I can sit at home with no pants watching movies on Netflix and it's way cheaper. There are only a very, very small number of films worth seeing in theaters and those are generally those worth seeing in 3D IMAX. My TV is good enough for 90% of movies. Hell, my iPad is good enough for 90% of movies.
If cheaters edit the experience to make it a thing, they will win. Go to an iPic theatre sometime. It almost does not matter what movie is playing, the experience is a thing.
I'm fairly sure the National Association of Theatre Owners have not been putting 2% of their budget towards defense spending.
That would make them smart.
Oh ... oh my goodness ... ok, this was great, really.
Didn't know Nolan and Coppola are doing comedies. Some more killer gags like this and they could really revive the genre.
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25 minutes of previews? Nope. Volume turned to 11? Nope.
Lets see, I could spend an obscene amount for the ticket, sit through 30 minutes of ads + 15 of more ads for upcoming movies, pay another obscene amount for stale popcorn and flat coke, sit in front of that person who talks on the phone while crunching loud chip, and have to rush to the bathroom, elbowing people out of the way and find that I missed the best part of the movie.
Or I could sit in my living room, no tickets, no ads, food of my choice that I've already paid for, the only one crunching chips is me, and I can pause when I have to pee and not miss a thing.
Tough choice!
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People to ride a horse instead of the automobile.
Id rather go to the arcade, oh wait...
If filmmakers think watching a movie in a theater is somehow analogous to seeing a live stage play, they are even more out-of-touch than I thought.
It's called a "home theater" for a reason. I've got ~87 high-def inches of projector screen that takes up my entire field of view, and speakers that I like just as much. Unless I have a burning need for 4K, which I don't, there is literally no reason to go to a theater except timing.
Fans urge Christopher Nolan to create movies on Netflix so we can watch them at home in whatever way we prefer which may include a big screen with surround sound.
Seriously.
I enjoy going to the theater, but I do not enjoy the numbskulls who are constantly looking at the smart phones or recording peep-shots of the screen with it.
Resistance is futile, besides ...
Netflix is not the enemy. they do leave some space for the cinema experience by releasing only old movies and original series.
They should worry more about people taking cameras to the cinema to upload the films to torrent sites,
Who are those two fucks again? Suck my dick; theaters suck.
Sony recently updated their Playstation Virtual Reality headset to play Blueray in 3d. It's awesome, and even watching 2d movies is like being in an IMAX theatre close enough to the screen that you have to turn your head a bit to focus on the left and right edges of the screen. All the plusses of the theatre experience with none of the downsides.
For the price of 2 tickets (and often less) I can buy the DVD, the price of going to the cinema has become too expensive.
Thing is I can watch the DVD as many times as I like, I can watch them with my grandkids as many times as I like.
Good movies has a great story line and that story shines through no matter the screen size, bad movies that put all the effort into wowing the audience with special effects are not worth spending the money on.
And my DVD, I can pause when I need to make a trip to the small room, I can rewind if I miss something, and it fit movie is CRAP I can always sell it to someone else and recoup some of my money.
Oh and most importantly, I can have the sound at a volume which does not try and make me deaf.
Cinema....bah... for the uncomfortable seats, the stranger coughing, kids talking, babies crying, too loud sound system, for the pay for car parking, etc etc etc the cinema needs to be 1/2 the price I get currently would have to pay.
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I skip the theatre, but I wait for RedBox instead of Netflix. RedBox generally gets the movies before Netflix, and many movies seem to not make it to Netflix.
Don't watch it at all. Get a library card.
135" screen, 5.1 surround, theater style reclining chairs for 4 people, cheap refreshments, non-sticky floor, ability to pause or replay certain scenes..
or I pay $40-$50 and the only advantage is a bigger screen with a better sound system.
I will still go to a movie theater once or twice a year, normally as a reward for my young son for doing well at something.. I don't mind waiting a year to see new movies courtesy of Netflix, amazon prime, or just buying the disc. Big Star Wars fan, still haven't seen the latest movie.
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Every subtitle system in the theaters forces the viewer to switch between two distances: the screen and the subtitle screen, which is MUCH closer to the viewer.
I don't have to put up with that for DVDs and I see no reason to fry my eye muscles trying to figure out WTF a character I can barely hear just said.
Why do theatres sell popcorn, nachos, bags that crackle? Why do people give a small child a litre of fizzy pop? Put a litre of pop in a kid and it WILL need to go to the bathroom at least once during the performance, meaning that it's mother or father and it will have to squeeze past the entire row.
Let's not get started on the idiots who NEED to use their massive smartphones with insanely bright lights.
And why do I pay a premium to sit in front of a 30 minute ad roll?
I do go to the theater when I can. But for the other 95% of films I see for the first time, I can't afford the time, ticket, and babysitting.
I think from living in the LA area, I've absorbed some of the film connoisseur mentality, so I'm right there with them. The first time I saw Interstellar was at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood and the experience completely affected my appreciation of the film. But for the vast majority of films, I'm either going to see it on our 37" living room budget TV after my kids go to sleep, or not at all.
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You just lost a fan. Shame, that is! Guess that's one person who won't be watching/paying for it anywhere. Great idea, though! Psh.
If Hollowood would get some ... oh, I don't know... *NEW IDEAS*... yeah, silly thought there, what am I thinking? ... maybe I'd be a bit more inclined to subject myself to their product?
Of the three movies they were touting in TFA, two were remakes.
There's very little of their output that I'd consent to waste what's left of my dwindling lifespan on if it were free.
("Hollowood" was a typo, but I decided to keep it. Pretty much says it all.)
Christopher Nolan is IMHO one of the few filmmakers who still makes movies the proper way - with film, in regular old 2D cinemascope and uses the whole image, with good cinematrography. Each movie I have seen of Nolan's has been both a visual treat, an immersion into a very special world and sometimes thought-provoking. They have made me think about the movie experience for days afterwards.
But most of the movies these days are cookie-cutter action/comedy "popcorn" movies, and always with 3D glasses that provide worse image quality than even a regular DVD on a 27" TV.
You already had me, Nolan. But you can't persuade me to go to the theatre to see something else than your own.
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Read the Bible aloud to a circle of eager little African children covered in flies and dying of hunger while I fill their hearts and mine with virtue. You can *have* your movies and trashy novels!
Watch every movie from a shaky pirated cam copy with out of sync sound and Asian subtitles than enter a fucking theater ever again...
ONE MONTH'S service on Netflix is the same cost as ONE MOVIE TICKET.
Really, you think there's a compelling argument to get us to go into theaters Chris?
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I used to go to the theaters when I was a kid with my father. At the time $10 got us two seats, two medium popcorns, and two medium sodas. The last time my father and I went it was double that before he died. These days I hear $20 barely gets one person in and the food. Throw on the fact that the theaters have annoying people in them, traffic, crowds, and travel expenses and I'd rather stay at home.
Maybe if theaters were cheap sources of good entertainment like in the past I'd go. Today, forget it. I'll wait for the DVD or at some point I guess Netflix if I ever decide to go that route.
Is this because they get more money from theaters vs netflix?
Can't you just take this as an evolving art form and adjust the way you do post-production to cater to this new environment?
I mean, this shift opens up the realm for something like HTC Vive capable movies where you are a first person movable viewer of the film.
No, I will not go to the theater except for a few films. I have so many forms of entertainment. I don't need movies. They're just filler for when I'm bored with other entertainment. I have a Tivo, and I watch things when I want to, and without having to deal with other rude people around me.
I highly suggest you reevaluate your business model and sell direct streaming at home on day 1, or at least day 14. Let me watch where and when I want to watch.
But the experience of going to the cinema has become a punishingly awful experience barn-like, characterless spaces, herded through by indifferent (or even hostile) staff, suffering through 30-40 minutes of advertising (!!!), overloud sound, and surprisingly frequent poor screen quality. Do I want to pay for that? Not really – watching at home is for more enjoyable.
..those filthy places that smell like urine, have sticky floors, crap all over the screens, surround you with obnoxious people on all sides, and then charge you a small fortune for this terrible experience? Hahaha f*** off. Let them die.
(Had to vent.)
Who said Nextlix? I watch all my movies at home from downloaded torrents.
When cable TV started up the theater industry fought tooth and nail to stop cable. The movie houses argued that cable would destroy the theater industry. And it was true. Cable did knock the theaters on their rumps and the movies houses are not what they used to be at all. And it is true that some movies may have a greater emotional impact if viewed in a theater. None the less cable won out big time. Now we have a situation in which Netflix and others are hammering the cable industry. Streaming will beat cable and become the norm. But there is a hidden weapon that gives cable too much power. Cable is also a huge internet provider and their data caps apply to streaming but not their own channels as streaming is considered as a data service. Cable carriers have an unfair advantage. One cure is to have multiple cable lines into every home so that carriers would be forced to compete instead of having a monopoly on your service.
... will begin to use digital Cameras, digital editing, and produce Netflix-front-and-center typw of films (not that they will not release in cinemas, DVD and Blue-Ray, mind you).
So the movie will be produced first and foremost to play to Netflix (and other streaming services) strenghts and limitations, and all the other forms of distribution will be an accesory revenue.
In 10 or so years, well check back to see who's making better, financially speaking.
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I'd give ANYTHING for a realistic form of this.
Lower section at the front for all the loud plebs. All flat seats. Upper section totally blocked off from below. Noise cancelling wall overhang that doesn't obstruct the view of the people above or below.
Either that or at the sides and have a noise cancelling wall between the aisles.
Both of these are workable. Would be similar to a typical theatre layout. Actual theatre, not cinema.
Upper seats for master race quiet, honourable people that would sacrifice their lives for your right to watch a film together in the harmony it deserves.
Conditions for entry to the upper seats?
"No children, teens or socially broken? Go right through kind soul. Enjoy the experience."
"What's that in your hand? Oh, you have an iPhone? Too bad. TO THE CRYSTAL DOME WITH YOU!"
Some of the screens at a cinema me and friends go to actually does semi-have the flat-floor method at the front and the diagonally staggered seats at back as you would expect.
There are also those fine-dining cinemas that I have seen going around where you get your own little booths and "decent food" instead of snacks and fast food. Sound proofing can definitely be done to great effect.
Still though, a bunch of us go to the cinema very regularly, and we basically never have any problems.
There's been uhh... 3 times where there was some loud cunts, or 2 with children, out of ooooh, probably around the hundred mark by now. (in the past 7 years)
No sticky floors. No huge delays. Sure tickets are fairly expensive, but that's why you get unlimited which even I don't and I'm objectively poor as fuck, I just don't waste as much money on other stupid shit like 90% of people do*.
I probably should get one since there's a bunch of films we intend seeing this year at least 2.3~ times a month for this year, which pays for itself already.
Food's reasonable prices, what you'd expect on an average day out at any reasonable eatery that isn't generic fast food.
Half the time we also just take food in with us anyway. They don't really care much.
This in the UK, the Cineworld chain at that. Generally they seem to be vastly superior to Odeon which we used to frequent. We deliberately drive 30 minutes when there is Odeon 3 minutes drive away friend friends house, simply because of that difference. (and the fact there's loads of good places to eat and stores to visit, you know being at a huge retail park... shh)
* Tl;dr of that is I suffered chronic illness mid-college software dev course, which was merely for certification purposes, i literally knew 80% of the damn course, more so than the lecturers did which was hilarious. I do miss them though. College was fun. A few of us at class and the lecturers always ate together at this nearby family-run restaurant.
10 years later, I seemed to have cured myself of it and finally getting my disaster of a life back on track. Hurray!
I very rarely ever went near subscriptions unless it was absolutely better at least >%60% of the time. No MMO games, no mobile phone, no cable / satellite, or magazines or any other noise. There's enough ad and straight free content out there as it is!
If I couldn't find myself using that subscriptions product over that 60%, it simply wasn't worth it IMO. I would still maintain that even if I was rich.
I'd also be one of those people that made free content for others to enjoy purely for the love of said content, not profit. (which I do now - with drawing, programming and learning - despite being a poor bastard)
Liar. You watch movies. You don't know how they treat people. And they've never done a thing to harm your religion. You have never been a victim, you're just pretending to be one because you mistakenly think it justifies your shrieking drama-queenery.
Oh yea. Those poor rich uneducated, high-school grad-u-ates, and drop-outs need the money so badly.
It may just be where we live, but going to Sunday morning first show, or even early matinee 2 to 3 weeks after a movie is out seems to be the key to avoiding teenagers, and even little ones running around.
This is the only time the wife and I will go now... Well, at least until the grand babies get big enough to bug us to go, then we'll take them on premier night, or Friday and Saturday nights, feed them plenty of sugar and let them loose... [joking...]
>"This is a story that needs to carry you through the suspenseful situation, and make you feel like you are there, and the only way to do that is through theatrical distribution,"
Oh really!
So, I can sit in my darkened greatroom, and watch my high-end 75" 4K TV from my high-end electric lazy-boy chair, listening to my high-end, perfectly balanced and tuned surround system... and that is somehow inferior to a "theatrical distribution"??
* No extra noise through the entire movie
* Better sound than I have EVER had at any theater
* Correct volume level so I don't have to wear earplugs
* No people waving phones or making other visual distractions
* Nobody tapping or kicking my chair or sending vibrations through connected chairs
* Seated perfectly in the center of the screen, every time
* Perfect ambient temperature
* Ability to pause and do something else IF WANTED
* No having to drive anywhere or wait in any lines
* No 20 minutes of "previews" and commercials.
My home entertainment system has much better video and far far far far far far far far far far far superior audio compared to any theatre I have ever been in.
Going to the theatre is only an alternative for those people who have 14" TVs and only use the tinny so-called speakers included in it.
Besides, all the movies are compressed all to ratshit digital garbage that is practically unwatchable (whether in the theatre or not). Since the non-quality is the same, why spend a shitload of money to be immersed in shit sound that is WAY to loud (or way to soft) with digitally torn video, when one can get equal or better (in the audio department, far far better) at home?
If Sofia Coppola asked me to stick a tomato up my ass then remove it and eat it, I would probably do it. But I'm never going to a theater again. Ever. They're gross and disgusting and people have no manners. Except for Sofia Coppola. >
In other words: Our business model isn't working, therefore our customers must all change their behavior.
[Insert pithy quote here]
When the market changes you don't beg your customers to change their behavior back to the way it used to be... you adapt.
There is 2 drive in theaters near my home town (I'm very lucky in that regard) & several that are 30~45min outside of Nashville's county (all in different directions, so like 2 hours from each other in almost equilateral triangle).
7.50$ for a single person in a car, (the one does this not the others) 15$ for 2~3 people and 20$ for up to 12 people in a van/bus.
Even accounting for running my engine to keep the AC on, it only costs me 10~15$ in gas + 15$ for tickets, so that is 30$ to for 2 people to see 2 movies, that is 7.50/movie, plus the viewing experience doesn't have anyone else to both me/us. (I go solo sometimes just to 'get out' and go see some movies)
Ohh... and food/drink prices are Football game/concession stand prices... not Regal/Carmike/etc. Cimema prices... (aka: reasonable)
You can make the picture 4K, have connected bluetooth surround sound, give me unlimited snacks, a private booth with no other people and I still wouldn't go to the theater because I have that at home. The only difference is I have to wait 6 months maybe to see your "movie" about whatever artsy bullshit your peddling today. Oh yeah and I don't have to pay $15 per snack that I want because you make me feel bad that I should be supporting a broken industry that doesn't share profits with anyone.
A teen girl with depressive disorder is left to the mercy of her mental illness Official movie released by truly talented film director Emma Barrett
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Fuck Christopher Nolan and Sofia Coppola. They can both kiss my ass. I'll watch what I want, when I want, where I want.
I don't need some self-important shitbags telling me where I should watch the current crop of shitty movies.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Fail. Market is changing. Change with it.
Nah. It fucking isn't.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
I used to go to the movies, but I refuse to watch movies unless they're in their original language and also in 2D. The problem is, I used to have a choice "English or Norwegian" at the theater. Then it became "Norwegian 3D, Norwegian 2D, English 3D". So, I stopped going.
Now, I simply watch on a 120" projector screen 720p, with somewhat budget surround sound at home. I even bought a little movie theater popcorn machine.
You know what... I don't mind paying $50 for a new release film if they ever get that going. It's cheaper, cleaner, nicer than going to the movie theater. I would probably watch 8 new releases for every one I see now. I think I went to the movie theater last year... was Suicide Squad last year?
No seriously, who are those two?
Oh please, you're ridiculous. Theaters offer many valuable features you simply cannot easily get at home. Here's a few:
* teenagers using cellphones
* screaming kids (esp. in R-rated movies)
* people talking about the movie
* people talking *to* the movie
* arguments between patrons
* patrons shooting each other
Don't know where you live but I've been in plenty of homes with ALL of those amenities available.
That's what's so special about going to a theater, and why you can't replicate it at home. At home, it's just a dry, inhuman experience with only you there alone, or maybe 1 or 2 other people.
It's only a "dry, inhuman experience" if you make it one. That is 100% within your control.
At a theater, you have a whole room full of wonderful people to share that experience with, along with all the other great things that come with being around other humans, including the talking, screaming kids, use of cellphones with bright screens, and shootings.
There is this thing called being social. Try it sometime. Did you know you are actually allowed to invite people over to your home? I know, crazy, right?
Only because they will sell less overpriced heated corn and brown bubbled water. PLEASE HELP THEM OUT AND GO TO THE THEATER.
The children of old Hollywood seeking to protect their inheritance, nothing more. Not gonna work, the genie's out of the Internet bottle and running amok, killing fossilized and outdated business models all over the place.
It was worth going to the movie theater before we all had at least a 50 inch TV in our house. Personally, I wait till the movie comes out so I can watch it as often as I like, in the comfort of my own home. For a family of four the tickets are like $50.00, plus snacks..cheaper to buy the movie.
The Guardian
argument presented by the film creators should not be labeled as "cinema vs netflix" but rather something like "cinema vs at home viewing"
(home theaters with big cinema like setups notwithstanding & i hate you, now invite me over for flick)
i dont know why the article is pointing at Netflix, other than to chime in on the sensationalized conspiracy about netflix taking over hollywood. The argument for anything other than cinema viewing would include all other sources of non-cinema viewing: all the streaming options available, video rentals, etc. Why they point at only NETFLIX seems like just hype.
i'm all for cinema-esque viewing, but as others have stated, others in the audience being disrespectful of everyone else wasnt exactly noted by the directors as also a deterrent by how 'its meant to be seen'
thank you for reading. enjoy a popcorn on me at your next cinema viewing, that you'll have to pay for yourself at an exorbitant price. :)
I suppose all movie worlds smell of popcorn and have the ubiquitous ruffle of hundreds of snack packets being opened and closed.
And there's always someone in front of you that you need to struggle to see over, that's when they're not doing stretch exercises in your field of view
... you cut the ticket prices and make it so I can buy a small popcorn and soda without having to take out a mortgage.