I see that enough in the news, I would hope I could find an objective mind or two on/.
Yeah, GWB can put justices in the court, BFD. It is not the end of the world. I get that painted enough to me the the oh so democratically pleasing media. Oh wait.. nm I forgot.. Open Source Closed Minds.
The media is totally snubbing GWB along with all you bitter folks who still think he bought his degree from a well reputed school
HTML never was and never will be a content description language intended to be printed.
There are tons of good interfaces to PDF and postcript for Java. I would say PDF all the way. It is more of a pain to get the reports right. But the tradeoff is a printable medium that actually works properly.
Call me crazy but I have dealt with some really high volume, high end situations where HTML just doesnt cut it when you have to generate reports for big wigs at a comapny. Sorry, its not always easy.
Well, I like Linux as much as most people here. But I can see this only dimming the Agenda's chances for survival. Sure its another hand held computing device in a rapidly flooding market.. right-o.
But even Sony was smart enough to license PalmOS from Palm. Palm obviously has something very good. Writing Palm Apps is easy. They have the software, they have the fanbase. Best to tap into that no? Add your new whiz bang features, pay palm your royalties, get a lil piece of the market. Palm is still king. Prolly will be for a good while.
Agenda is a good idea, but I just think that for once Unix, even if you strip out all the shit and use cramfs and just shove and shove and shove strip this, use a compact standard C library etc, is just not going to be competitive here. They would need to release a really awesome SDK for this thing to compete with Palm. They need some really killer apps and more than just 18 MB of ram (16 of that being flash) to compete. FLTK is sweet and very nice GUI kit especially if you like C++, but it just cant compete. I find PalmApps just as easy to write as FLTK if not a little easier.
Anyhow this really isnt off topic since Its real relevant to how the market is going and the fact that Sony is playing Palm's game shows a lot.
Thanks,
I found that MIT book too, by susmann and someone. About Scheme. I may dig into that as I have been told Scheme is a more simplified version of LISP. Sounds fun, I love learning new languages.:)
Where would you recommend starting to learn LISP?
I have the common lisp book but there are like a million and one compilers/interpreters out there. One for windows is prefferred, but I can throw it on one of my Unix boxes if I must.
I was too weak to really hurt. I felt really bad because I had more anti-biotics that make you feel sick than you can think of.
I did really really hurt when I threw up with a 4and a half inch cut on my stomach, owchie.
But I had to have tubes in my stomach near the incision to drain off fluids, skin kinda holds onto things like that, that was the most extreme pain as they slooowly pulled the tubes out of my stomach... Worse than snapping my leg and seeing it visibly broken.
After almost dying after my appendix ruptured and went untreated for a couple of days, and spending a month in the hospital not really too coherent, I gained an appreciation for a lot of things.
Like waking up. And being able to walk and see the world around me as a whole human being.
And enjoy seeing trees.. and generally everything I took for granted.
While I still love computers.. It is very hard to not put your life in retrospect and ask yourself if these are my last few days would I rather have geeked out on bits and bytes or enjoyed feeling the Sun beat down on me, or hold my girlfriend close to me. Sure some people actaully love computers, but I think if your honest with yourself the answer is evident.
Nothing will change your persepctive on life quicker than almost dying. I am usually smiling like a fool most of the time. It has helped me deal with a lot of pettiness in life. I dont mind just sitting in traffic listening to music anymore. I dunno, its a near religious experience for anyone involved with a near death accident. Its hard to really quantify what it is to each person but to me it is an appreciation for my brief glimmer of life I will have on Earth and trying to get as much enjoyment as I can.
It was to set the mood of course! THere might be some oldish reference im missing but the mood it gave the movie was the kind of "bleak" and "real" feeling instead of kinda unrealistic feel many movies such as that have.
THanks for being a stickler. But I think the post tries to show that technology is neither good nor evil. It simply is.
While the inherent benefits and down sides associated with tecnology are always evident it must be weighed on an even scale. This post simply points that out.
The examples could have been stronger but the posters line of thinking was good....
Great!! That finally makes something fall in place that has always buggedme.
I remember a movie with Mel Gibon Payback I think. I always thought that was out of place but definitely intentional! The things people remember;) that just popped into my head. Cool!
At first I read your post and was like okay so maybe your pretty good.
You have no clue tho.. really.
Your in your first year of COLLEGE with no actual work experience. Repeat after me, "NOTHING REPLACES ACTUAL JOB EXPERIENCE"
Ok then that about sums up my post. Anyone here who actually has work experience will back this little saying up. Theory and Implmentation always differ.
Your at the theory level in your thinking and education. Theory: Lay cable, throw some computers there, toggle a few buttons. Reality: There is a concerete wall between IT department and marketing department.. oops cant lay cable yet there went your pretty little picture.
So I must classify this IMO as a troll or someone truly without a clue (which is even more sad)
My girlfriend is in med school and the level of education she is going through is very intense.
Okay at some level she loves it but it really takes a lot out of life. Its going to be hard for us to enjoy any of the benefits that being a doctor has. Even making her happy since that is what she wants to do in life. You have to pay your dues and that means a lot of hardening and difficult learning. It will teach you responsibility about your career tho. Yes you CAN be responsible mature and still love what you do. Nothing says you cant be a clean cut geek.
I am, and im not anti-social either. I cant devote my entire life to computers like I used too, but im still there loving it and reading. Hell im writing a book. To each their own.
You would be sadly amazed at the number doctors who actually dont like their jobs. You probably dont ahve a clue of the commitment it takes. And once your so far usually before realization truly sets in, its to late beacuse youve popped a 20K loan for your first your of med school. Big oops.
Most rpess on for the money usually because its kinda just too late to re think. (No its never to late but thats how a lot of people feel)
Tried having a family as a doctor? I didnt think so, its not easy because for a female by the time she is actaully able to practice say actual neruo surgery she has dedicated all of her most fertile years as a mother to the study of medicine. Take a break you say? Some do, most never make it back to med school oddly enough.
You picked a really bad topic. Doctors must always continue their education as well. I trust a doctor even if his job does not bring him much joy to be competent at what he does. There is a difference in not liking your job and having a hate for humanity. If they did as long as they keep this to themselves and do their job proesionally when dealing with another humans life (as they should and almost all do) then I got no problem with it.
I will always have undying respect for what it takes to become a doctor for anyone a brainchild or notbecause I know how hard it is for most people. Anyways
BRJeremy
I wear slacks and a nice shirt always. Always nice shoes.
I keep my appeareance clean and well groomed always. Thats just me. I work in a professional place of business I like to portray that I am a professional. Thats me. I AM a geek with apps I wrote for myself on the palm, just cause I can.
I have more computers than I can remmeber I have. I have hubs and switches stacked up int he closet. I have my own LAN and used Linux before it was cool. (Think pre windows 95 and before all of these terrible emulate-95-98-2000 WM's came out) I still use twm or a slightly more advanced variant for my window manager just cause it gets the job done. I have read books about regex for the sheer fun of learning to write the equivalent of a miniature program in one line (as far as most people care)
Appearances mean absolutely nothing except how you wish to appear... DUH! When the bottom line hits and you perform and get your work done quality like I dont care what your wearing as long as its done.
I work around professionals and deal with a million dollar code base. I am around clients all day (not interacting, but exposed none the less) we have a dress code and it doesnt hurt me to follow it. Yeah I sneek in a Linux or FreeBSD T with slacks on Fridays but come on folks, how you dress doesnt indicate anything about someones coding ability.
You can line up the best developers out there by the hundreds who dont dress with lots of facial hair and geeky t's
I recently set up a counter-strike server. I decided to install portsentry and a couple other detailed logging programs.
I locked the machine down hunted down every last bug found that I had time for. Spent a couple of days hunting bugtraq etc.
The sheer number of times I was portscanned was stupid. I had it set up to send me an email for each port scanning. I now get 4 a day!
That is ok. The email server is closed and doesnt actually let anyone but localhost send mail. I cant count how many times that was pried at.
FTP services run, every time the same exploits are attempted.
People trying weird shit with my php and perl scripts I wrote / had on my server. Trying to get freaky with my URL variables;) Pass in RAW SQL etc.
In short only one person got r00t;) he had a shell acount too. I instantly vaporized his ass. Its like a never ending battle. You cant hope to stop them all, just most of them.
I think setting up a Honeynet would be kinda fun if I had time. I just dont really give a shit as long as no one is breaking my system down. Portscan all you want. Who cares. (Someone tried to flood ping me once.. too bad the machine is sitting on an OC-12, OC3 and redundant DS3's)
You cant win. You can only hope to stay slightly ahead of the game.
Slashdot Mirror
Not Enterprise Coffee ye Troll! ;)
Jeremy
That is 100% BS.
/.
I see that enough in the news, I would hope I could find an objective mind or two on
Yeah, GWB can put justices in the court, BFD. It is not the end of the world. I get that painted enough to me the the oh so democratically pleasing media. Oh wait.. nm I forgot.. Open Source Closed Minds.
The media is totally snubbing GWB along with all you bitter folks who still think he bought his degree from a well reputed school
Anyways
Jeremy
PERIOD.
HTML never was and never will be a content description language intended to be printed.
There are tons of good interfaces to PDF and postcript for Java. I would say PDF all the way. It is more of a pain to get the reports right. But the tradeoff is a printable medium that actually works properly.
Call me crazy but I have dealt with some really high volume, high end situations where HTML just doesnt cut it when you have to generate reports for big wigs at a comapny. Sorry, its not always easy.
Jeremy
Fuzzy Logic error, make that 24mb of ram, but my point is the same. my palm IIIxe has 8 ;)
Well, I like Linux as much as most people here. But I can see this only dimming the Agenda's chances for survival. Sure its another hand held computing device in a rapidly flooding market.. right-o.
But even Sony was smart enough to license PalmOS from Palm. Palm obviously has something very good. Writing Palm Apps is easy. They have the software, they have the fanbase. Best to tap into that no? Add your new whiz bang features, pay palm your royalties, get a lil piece of the market. Palm is still king. Prolly will be for a good while.
Agenda is a good idea, but I just think that for once Unix, even if you strip out all the shit and use cramfs and just shove and shove and shove strip this, use a compact standard C library etc, is just not going to be competitive here. They would need to release a really awesome SDK for this thing to compete with Palm. They need some really killer apps and more than just 18 MB of ram (16 of that being flash) to compete. FLTK is sweet and very nice GUI kit especially if you like C++, but it just cant compete. I find PalmApps just as easy to write as FLTK if not a little easier.
Anyhow this really isnt off topic since Its real relevant to how the market is going and the fact that Sony is playing Palm's game shows a lot.
Jeremy
We all know he just wants the SETI freaks buying more processors.
Jeremy
Thanks, I found that MIT book too, by susmann and someone. About Scheme. I may dig into that as I have been told Scheme is a more simplified version of LISP. Sounds fun, I love learning new languages. :)
Where would you recommend starting to learn LISP? I have the common lisp book but there are like a million and one compilers/interpreters out there. One for windows is prefferred, but I can throw it on one of my Unix boxes if I must.
Thanks
Jeremy
Im not wure who wrote this but this was one of my first turn on's to functional programming languages.
For the link paranoid.
http://www.naggum.no/worse-is-better.html
Very cool reading.
Scary, that you would mention Emacs, and Artificial intelligence so close to each other. No more Emacs for me..
Jeremy
I was too weak to really hurt. I felt really bad because I had more anti-biotics that make you feel sick than you can think of.
I did really really hurt when I threw up with a 4and a half inch cut on my stomach, owchie.
But I had to have tubes in my stomach near the incision to drain off fluids, skin kinda holds onto things like that, that was the most extreme pain as they slooowly pulled the tubes out of my stomach... Worse than snapping my leg and seeing it visibly broken.
Jeremy
True enough,
After almost dying after my appendix ruptured and went untreated for a couple of days, and spending a month in the hospital not really too coherent, I gained an appreciation for a lot of things.
Like waking up. And being able to walk and see the world around me as a whole human being. And enjoy seeing trees.. and generally everything I took for granted.
While I still love computers.. It is very hard to not put your life in retrospect and ask yourself if these are my last few days would I rather have geeked out on bits and bytes or enjoyed feeling the Sun beat down on me, or hold my girlfriend close to me. Sure some people actaully love computers, but I think if your honest with yourself the answer is evident.
Nothing will change your persepctive on life quicker than almost dying. I am usually smiling like a fool most of the time. It has helped me deal with a lot of pettiness in life. I dont mind just sitting in traffic listening to music anymore. I dunno, its a near religious experience for anyone involved with a near death accident. Its hard to really quantify what it is to each person but to me it is an appreciation for my brief glimmer of life I will have on Earth and trying to get as much enjoyment as I can.
Jeremy
Haha, CmdrTaco says post your opinon, he didnt like it, and he got flamebait moderated. Go figure.
:)
I didnt even see the subject, it must be a Linux product tho
I have some bad news :(
tracert is
"Unable to resolve target system name life.liberty.pursuit-of-happiness."
... Oh well
It was to set the mood of course! THere might be some oldish reference im missing but the mood it gave the movie was the kind of "bleak" and "real" feeling instead of kinda unrealistic feel many movies such as that have.
Jeremy
Yeah yeah,
THanks for being a stickler. But I think the post tries to show that technology is neither good nor evil. It simply is.
While the inherent benefits and down sides associated with tecnology are always evident it must be weighed on an even scale. This post simply points that out.
The examples could have been stronger but the posters line of thinking was good....
Jeremy
Great!! That finally makes something fall in place that has always buggedme.
;) that just popped into my head. Cool!
I remember a movie with Mel Gibon Payback I think. I always thought that was out of place but definitely intentional! The things people remember
Jeremy
Hey, you were close.
:(
:)
but the "User Space" slashbox must also be checked as well as having info filled in. And what you did actually unchecks the box
Try again, think harder
I might add a million dollars was a figure outta my ass, its prolly worth much much more as long as marketing does its job :)
Hi there.
At first I read your post and was like okay so maybe your pretty good.
You have no clue tho.. really.
Your in your first year of COLLEGE with no actual work experience. Repeat after me, "NOTHING REPLACES ACTUAL JOB EXPERIENCE"
Ok then that about sums up my post. Anyone here who actually has work experience will back this little saying up. Theory and Implmentation always differ.
Your at the theory level in your thinking and education. Theory: Lay cable, throw some computers there, toggle a few buttons. Reality: There is a concerete wall between IT department and marketing department.. oops cant lay cable yet there went your pretty little picture.
So I must classify this IMO as a troll or someone truly without a clue (which is even more sad)
Jeremy
Heh, I will tell you what.
My girlfriend is in med school and the level of education she is going through is very intense.
Okay at some level she loves it but it really takes a lot out of life. Its going to be hard for us to enjoy any of the benefits that being a doctor has. Even making her happy since that is what she wants to do in life. You have to pay your dues and that means a lot of hardening and difficult learning. It will teach you responsibility about your career tho. Yes you CAN be responsible mature and still love what you do. Nothing says you cant be a clean cut geek.
I am, and im not anti-social either. I cant devote my entire life to computers like I used too, but im still there loving it and reading. Hell im writing a book. To each their own.
You would be sadly amazed at the number doctors who actually dont like their jobs. You probably dont ahve a clue of the commitment it takes. And once your so far usually before realization truly sets in, its to late beacuse youve popped a 20K loan for your first your of med school. Big oops. Most rpess on for the money usually because its kinda just too late to re think. (No its never to late but thats how a lot of people feel)
Tried having a family as a doctor? I didnt think so, its not easy because for a female by the time she is actaully able to practice say actual neruo surgery she has dedicated all of her most fertile years as a mother to the study of medicine. Take a break you say? Some do, most never make it back to med school oddly enough.
You picked a really bad topic. Doctors must always continue their education as well. I trust a doctor even if his job does not bring him much joy to be competent at what he does. There is a difference in not liking your job and having a hate for humanity. If they did as long as they keep this to themselves and do their job proesionally when dealing with another humans life (as they should and almost all do) then I got no problem with it.
I will always have undying respect for what it takes to become a doctor for anyone a brainchild or notbecause I know how hard it is for most people. Anyways
BRJeremy
Lets just make gross generalizations some more.
I wear slacks and a nice shirt always. Always nice shoes.
I keep my appeareance clean and well groomed always. Thats just me. I work in a professional place of business I like to portray that I am a professional. Thats me. I AM a geek with apps I wrote for myself on the palm, just cause I can.
I have more computers than I can remmeber I have. I have hubs and switches stacked up int he closet. I have my own LAN and used Linux before it was cool. (Think pre windows 95 and before all of these terrible emulate-95-98-2000 WM's came out) I still use twm or a slightly more advanced variant for my window manager just cause it gets the job done. I have read books about regex for the sheer fun of learning to write the equivalent of a miniature program in one line (as far as most people care)
Appearances mean absolutely nothing except how you wish to appear... DUH! When the bottom line hits and you perform and get your work done quality like I dont care what your wearing as long as its done.
I work around professionals and deal with a million dollar code base. I am around clients all day (not interacting, but exposed none the less) we have a dress code and it doesnt hurt me to follow it. Yeah I sneek in a Linux or FreeBSD T with slacks on Fridays but come on folks, how you dress doesnt indicate anything about someones coding ability.
You can line up the best developers out there by the hundreds who dont dress with lots of facial hair and geeky t's
Just whatever, I like to keep it professional.
Jeremy
Hah,
;) Pass in RAW SQL etc.
;) he had a shell acount too. I instantly vaporized his ass. Its like a never ending battle. You cant hope to stop them all, just most of them.
I recently set up a counter-strike server. I decided to install portsentry and a couple other detailed logging programs.
I locked the machine down hunted down every last bug found that I had time for. Spent a couple of days hunting bugtraq etc.
The sheer number of times I was portscanned was stupid. I had it set up to send me an email for each port scanning. I now get 4 a day!
That is ok. The email server is closed and doesnt actually let anyone but localhost send mail. I cant count how many times that was pried at.
FTP services run, every time the same exploits are attempted.
People trying weird shit with my php and perl scripts I wrote / had on my server. Trying to get freaky with my URL variables
In short only one person got r00t
I think setting up a Honeynet would be kinda fun if I had time. I just dont really give a shit as long as no one is breaking my system down. Portscan all you want. Who cares. (Someone tried to flood ping me once.. too bad the machine is sitting on an OC-12, OC3 and redundant DS3's)
You cant win. You can only hope to stay slightly ahead of the game.
Jeremy
Ok look.
There is a requirement that before you can see a movie rated R you have to prove that you are 17 at most any theatre out there.
Cable neatly bypasses this because that is in the realm of the home. In the home the parent is responsible for ensuring what their children are doing.
So a kid buys a video game and sneeks it to their computer and plays it all without their parents noticing or discussing it with them. I think not.
We ALL know this is about the money.
Jermey
I dont know how many parties are involved, but thats 5 Billion total..
Jeremy