Oh yeah that reminds me of one of Arnold Swas... Mr Universes quotes.
If you take a 12 horse power engine, and you put it under a load meant for a 14 horse power engine, the engine is going to break.
If you put a human under a 14 horse power load when he can only handle a 12 horse power load, the human soon enough beciomes able to handle the 14 horse poewr load.
Sure you say thats self evident but it makes a good point about how amazing our bodies are and what a waste of such an amazing and complex creation it is to waste away your life in front of a computer screen.
However we got here, we have more than an ass a brain and two hands to type and write computer programs all day.
its such a simple joy to relax after working all day in my friends yard compared to the mental fatique that is generally associated with working at my programming job all day.
And people tell me im crazy for saying that Ive seirously contemplated becoming a car mechanic:P I have done labor intensive jobs and I have recently started taking Tae Kwan Doe, and I work out every other day, nothing to intense, just to work off some energy.
The effect of working out and going to TKD have had on my concentration and overall happiness is really great.
I work some insane hours but I draw the line at having at least two or three hours a day just for myself. As it is im feeling a bit crazed (one of those 80 hour weeks oh.. its only friday...) So maybe anyone who does not believe mentally exhausitng yourself for 18 hours a day should try it before saying shit like that.
I think everyone should find it in their best intrests to do some sort of phsyical excersize especially with a desk job.
If your feeling run down always and constantly drinking soda or whatever to stay awake, get high on life, it really works.
Compare like working out in the gym 3 months to drinking Dew and coffee all day for energy boost and there is no comparison. Working out has given me tons more energy for lack of a better way to say it a good way to clear my mind.
Yeah, you could view it as an attempt to save face. Whatever you want to call it, what he said is the truth. Maybe I dont like open source software. Maybe I dont like Closed Source software. But the things he said *ARE* true.
Maybe it should be more self evident, but for some reason people like to complain a lot.
One question for all of you naysayers of redhat out there.
Whens the last time Bill Gates or an official (higher up) from Microsoft came to/. *JUST* specifically for/.'ers and said hey look we are only human, we believe in our model because it gives you freedom and we think that is what is going to always make our product a good choice.
What would microsoft say? You give us money, we hide the source from you, and we are so huge we have to belated give "official" patches for everything, and its usually easier to just not tell you about the bugs in our orating system much larger than redhat.
TrollTech has GPL'd the unix version of QT, wake up and smell the coffee buddy, that was a HUGE step for TrollTech. No one made them do this, they were really really freaking nice.
You do still have to pay for the windows version and some of their nicer tools (no big deal I like pay for software if its good)
I would definately pay what TrollTech is asking for QT.
I have done MFC programming enough to know the hell it is and to just write a few simple QT apps the brevity and overall simplicity and (God forbid) design that went into QT is refreshing. I think its a snazzy library and that TrollTech people are really nice people to GPL this library. It proves more or less that they are not trying to make money on this.
As an added benefit it does give them publicity and probably more revenue, so why not CONTRIBUTE a little time to KDE ehh? I have followed KDE and its defiantely not being guided by a corporate arm that has stock holders intrests in mind, no saying Redhat is being bad, however it is doing whats best for stock holders.:)
Is all of this good or bad, who knows.
What is rather evident is that anyone who flames or troll's about one or the other being better for whatever reason is clearly on a misaligned path since both of these libraries/environments are free to the public. No one is making ANYONE use any of this, LessTif+Fvwm2 still work:)
Said patent claims to have rights to the wheel, including "an annular rim, a central hub and a plurality of spoke rim portions running between the rim and hub... HMMMMMMMN
How about "U.S. Patent No. 5,120,657, for a "gene gun" that shoots foreign genes into soybean cells, was followed by a European patent for exclusive rights to any and all genetically altered soybeans, created by any method whatsoever."
Or... "U.S. Patent No. 5,401,504 was issued for the use of turmeric in healing wounds--a part of Indian medicine that probably predates Hippocrates."
HMMMN...
grabbed these from cpcn.com, did other research for the wheel patent, you honestly COULD get away with just about any thing *ANY*thing
51.2 Peak GigaOps (32 bit)
12.8 Peak GigaMACS (32 bit)
6.4 GigaByte/sec I/O bandwidth
3.2 GigaByte/sec external memory bandwidth
12.8 GigaByte/sec internal memory bandwidth
The core of the XPU128 is an array of 128 parallel Processing Array Elements (PAEs) implemented in advanced, reprogrammable technology. Each PAE performs high-speed 32-bit arithmetic signed and unsigned operations that execute in a single clock cycle.
Cut n pasted..
It also handles clock cycles for you and handles all the syncing there, and had quite a few other things that made it seem rather impressive for running at 100 mhz and posting those kind of stats..... Imagine this thing as fast as some of todays processors..
That must be why DELL (read: Major Portion of PC market) must be marketing Intel processors in their systems still.
Just yesterday I got some more junk mail from Dell containing items like the 1 Ghz pentium etc. etc.
I scoured the article and could not find any mention of AMD processors, very strange.
My conclusion, based on this and several other factors, is that saying Intel is too late to be relevant is like saying since Microsoft is late to market its to late for them to be relevant *cough*
It is an underestimate of what years of monopoly, patents, deeeep pockets, and being in bed with Microsoft can do to your longevity at this point.
I realize it is a bit (assumptive?) of me to say what I did, but I am going to point out just a couple of things that I don't believe make me better or more impotant than anyone else here..
I only use my +1 bonus by accident when I forget to even check it.
Since I dont really agree with nor care about Karma, I read articles at -1 Threaded, Oldest First. That is my personal preference nothing more nothing less. But I also have noticed that you really do miss something if you decide to read score:2 and up. Score:2 and up is the suggested way to read an article by some folks around here I believe. Also reading at -1 Threaded, Oldest first does NOT relate to disliking Karma either. That is just my personal preference.
I really really am not complaning about not getting moderated really, it does not matter to me. I agree it is assumptive of me to say because of my contrary thinking/posting and also understand where your original line of posting came from and apologize for saying you were degrading me. I still do believe your approach could have been more constructive but I respond kindly to anything except real obvious trolls. Thanks for posting your email, I realize a lot of people do not really mind AC posting but I do appreciate the fact that you posted your email:)
Also I openly admit if I do not sit down and think about what I am fixing to say my mind skips and it really does come out an incoherent jumble that you probably have to read a couple of times to understand, whereas someone else probably says it better and they get moderated. I am aware of that and it does not bother me. I just think harboring certain opinons around here can cause you moderation/meta mod grief.
I have seen moderators with agendas moderate my posts, that always peeves me especially when it happens to me (yes it DOES happen, maybe not as often as I depicted but it does occur)
Hehe
I think I have found one of your pet peeves on/.:)
Jeremy
P.S. I hated both college english courses I have taken and I barely survived them even realizing the importance of having a good command of the language. Learning english just really preturbs me:)
*yawn yawn yawn* I messed up one tag so freaking sue me. My message is clear enough.
I work and often find myself not really worrying a whole lot about coherently structuring a post to/. when really I am just thanking the editors for their efforts.
When I have something important to say (not often at all on/.) I will make it legible and understandable so that more people will take it seriously.
I do not have time to really complain about other peoples grammatical prowess or lack thereof. I do not have time to degrade and insult people anonymously.
So I thank you for your time however I feel it is largely wasted since I think you were a bit destructive as opposed to being constructive with your criticism.
I also believe that people with your attitude are generally what tend to make people a little peeved with the attitudes going around here. Go ahead look over my userinfo it seems you have plenty of time to do so. Look at my posts, you will see that whenever I choose to reply lucidly I do so, otherwise I am myself and I try not to contirbute to much to noise here.
So please please before you negatively treat people like this ask yourself if it is you are really accomplishing.
Hehhhehe you guys are getting testier as time goes by ehh?:)
Can't say I blame you, I complained like once or twice when I first got here but now ive dealt with handling spammers on a few sites I wrote, and ive seen how utterly pointless it is to constantly chastise you guys for this (it gets so old seeing the same thing differently worded every article and then being modded up?) R Moderators? Dont you EVER get tired of moderating up the same redundant crap??
I know I never get modded very high because I tend to be contrary to how a lot of people think here, I dont mind MS, I think/. does a pretty good job with their site, I like BSD, not Linux, I dont like perl *poke/. folks think we could have a php port;)? (kidding!!:)* etc. etc., but anyways I just feel compelled to counter act some of the negative shit people post.
(And no this is not sucking up anyone who feels like flaming or what not, I could give a care since in about 10 minutes im not reading/. until tommorow), anyways you guys do good work and despite the fact that some people probably know about every source forge project in existence, this is something interesting and worthwhile.
Hmmn.. my main point is.. you guys do good work and even if I occasionally disagree (everyone does), I dont think its worth it to say the same thing everyone else does and further piss you guys off, so I say good job:)
Now go ahead moderate me into oblivian, see if I care, I read at -1 and dont really care for the moderation system:) thats why you have the option of reading/. how you want:).
Maybe more people should loosen their sphincters a little and focus on the overall good of/. instead of complaning about the 2% of it that bothers you?
Oxygen, dont forget what we breath is only like 20 some odd percent oxygen and the rest nitrogen, breathing pure O will make you pass out eventually. Nitrogen is like 70 percen tof the atmosphere we breath if I remember properly...:)
You run around spreading stuff like this and calling me an idiot because I said "Comparing two sites over the internet wherein you have next to no data about the hardware or site configurations and saying that servlets are slower because the site x loads slower than site z" is totally unscientific and you tripped out asking me if I knew what traceroute is.
Now you are sitting here trying to spread more crap.
I mean, really I can understand some things but here you go again, "an amd webserver cant sustain a ping under 100 ms".
That is such garbage and you and I both know it.
lets see there is no such thing as an AMD web server. There are webservers with AMD chips in them but your just spouting random bullshit and I dont mind saying so.
Lets see were you pinging over the net?, were you pinging over a LAN? Was the server you were pinging loaded, what kind of NIC were you using, were you using the most recent drivers, what operating system were you using, what kind of memory was in the machines, what kind of motherboards were in use, what is the connection speeds on both ends.
Lets come back to reality and speak like adults and present each other with useful facts not just silly facts like "slashdot loads in 2.5 seconds winamp's site loads in 10, therefore perl is faster than servlets"
While I agree I dont see why sticking Debian on this was such a great idea.
Have people ever heard of Lineo? Embeded Linux?
Really truly if a project to put Linux on a PDA were to be useful beyond the "look what I can do!!", there needs to be some sort of low level graphics system for displaying to things like a palm and such.
That is a start. Then you need to make this interface useful and easy to use.. IE: you develop on a desktop and then test apps on the PDA. Maybe if you can plug a mini Keyboard into the PDA it would be a little nicer and make it more of a "pocket PC".
Im trailing off, what I mean is installing a distro like Debian, or whatever on a PDA is kind of useless aside from it being fun to do.
If.. there was a group actually serious about writing a system in Linux to make PDA's more useful and open to (programmers) then I could truly seing this as beneficial since you would then have the world of Linux at your hands.
A scaled back version of gnome for PDA's is nice (cough cough) wasnt there a group working on that, whatever happened to them??
I think some groups are moving in this direction, but I don't really see any concentration of development being done to make headway to making the PDA's useful, I just see peoplke getting their jollies by showing off what they can do:) nothing wrong with this, its fun and you can learn a lot doing stuff like this
But I do agree its usefuless is truly limited a great deal in usefulness.
Those are some pretty broad and sweeping claims to say that basically most every major software player gets ideas from debian, any conspiracy theories to back this up?
Slashdot Mirror
Thing is he probably gets to live where he wants with his 55K, move right far away from any major city and watch the cost of living drop drop drop! :)
Jeremy
Oh yeah that reminds me of one of Arnold Swas... Mr Universes quotes.
If you take a 12 horse power engine, and you put it under a load meant for a 14 horse power engine, the engine is going to break.
If you put a human under a 14 horse power load when he can only handle a 12 horse power load, the human soon enough beciomes able to handle the 14 horse poewr load.
Sure you say thats self evident but it makes a good point about how amazing our bodies are and what a waste of such an amazing and complex creation it is to waste away your life in front of a computer screen.
However we got here, we have more than an ass a brain and two hands to type and write computer programs all day.
its such a simple joy to relax after working all day in my friends yard compared to the mental fatique that is generally associated with working at my programming job all day.
Jeremy
lol Me too, you should see me walka round the office some days when im documenting or solving tough problems.
And people tell me im crazy for saying that Ive seirously contemplated becoming a car mechanic :P I have done labor intensive jobs and I have recently started taking Tae Kwan Doe, and I work out every other day, nothing to intense, just to work off some energy.
The effect of working out and going to TKD have had on my concentration and overall happiness is really great.
I work some insane hours but I draw the line at having at least two or three hours a day just for myself. As it is im feeling a bit crazed (one of those 80 hour weeks oh.. its only friday...) So maybe anyone who does not believe mentally exhausitng yourself for 18 hours a day should try it before saying shit like that.
I think everyone should find it in their best intrests to do some sort of phsyical excersize especially with a desk job.
If your feeling run down always and constantly drinking soda or whatever to stay awake, get high on life, it really works.
Compare like working out in the gym 3 months to drinking Dew and coffee all day for energy boost and there is no comparison. Working out has given me tons more energy for lack of a better way to say it a good way to clear my mind.
Jeremy
Yeah, you could view it as an attempt to save face. Whatever you want to call it, what he said is the truth. Maybe I dont like open source software. Maybe I dont like Closed Source software. But the things he said *ARE* true.
Maybe it should be more self evident, but for some reason people like to complain a lot.
One question for all of you naysayers of redhat out there.
/. *JUST* specifically for /.'ers and said hey look we are only human, we believe in our model because it gives you freedom and we think that is what is going to always make our product a good choice.
Whens the last time Bill Gates or an official (higher up) from Microsoft came to
What would microsoft say? You give us money, we hide the source from you, and we are so huge we have to belated give "official" patches for everything, and its usually easier to just not tell you about the bugs in our orating system much larger than redhat.
Think about it
Jeremy
Ahem, im replying to a troll of a troll... *sigh*
:)
:)
TrollTech has GPL'd the unix version of QT, wake up and smell the coffee buddy, that was a HUGE step for TrollTech. No one made them do this, they were really really freaking nice.
You do still have to pay for the windows version and some of their nicer tools (no big deal I like pay for software if its good)
I would definately pay what TrollTech is asking for QT.
I have done MFC programming enough to know the hell it is and to just write a few simple QT apps the brevity and overall simplicity and (God forbid) design that went into QT is refreshing. I think its a snazzy library and that TrollTech people are really nice people to GPL this library. It proves more or less that they are not trying to make money on this.
As an added benefit it does give them publicity and probably more revenue, so why not CONTRIBUTE a little time to KDE ehh? I have followed KDE and its defiantely not being guided by a corporate arm that has stock holders intrests in mind, no saying Redhat is being bad, however it is doing whats best for stock holders.
Is all of this good or bad, who knows.
What is rather evident is that anyone who flames or troll's about one or the other being better for whatever reason is clearly on a misaligned path since both of these libraries/environments are free to the public. No one is making ANYONE use any of this, LessTif+Fvwm2 still work
Jeremy
That was a very satirical piece (I think most of the onion is like that I do not read it) however, it does make a very good point :)
Jeremy
Actually...
Patent on a "Vehicle Wheel"
Said patent claims to have rights to the wheel, including "an annular rim, a central hub and a plurality of spoke rim portions running between the rim and hub... HMMMMMMMN
How about "U.S. Patent No. 5,120,657, for a "gene gun" that shoots foreign genes into soybean cells, was followed by a European patent for exclusive rights to any and all genetically altered soybeans, created by any method whatsoever."
Or... "U.S. Patent No. 5,401,504 was issued for the use of turmeric in healing wounds--a part of Indian medicine that probably predates Hippocrates."
HMMMN...
grabbed these from cpcn.com, did other research for the wheel patent, you honestly COULD get away with just about any thing *ANY*thing
Jeremy
Nope...
XPU128 EXTREME PERFORMANCE
51.2 Peak GigaOps (32 bit)
12.8 Peak GigaMACS (32 bit)
6.4 GigaByte/sec I/O bandwidth
3.2 GigaByte/sec external memory bandwidth
12.8 GigaByte/sec internal memory bandwidth
The core of the XPU128 is an array of 128
parallel Processing Array Elements (PAEs)
implemented in advanced, reprogrammable technology. Each PAE performs high-speed 32-bit
arithmetic signed and unsigned operations that execute in a single clock cycle.
Cut
n pasted..
It also handles clock cycles for you and handles all the syncing there, and had quite a few other things that made it seem rather impressive for running at 100 mhz and posting those kind of stats..... Imagine this thing as fast as some of todays processors..
Jeremy
This is not flame bait@#$$#@#@$#
He is right, go read a few of the previous posts!
You can only install windows to the original PC it came with if you have the OEM/Crippled versions!!!
You cant move an installation of windows either, all of that is illegal.
Moderators who moderate with a bias to how someone spells when they are delivering a (important?) message that is the truth, you guys freak.
It is annnoooyiinng...(sp!)
Jeremy
It is going to dominate the high end market huh?
That must be why DELL (read: Major Portion of PC market) must be marketing Intel processors in their systems still.
Just yesterday I got some more junk mail from Dell containing items like the 1 Ghz pentium etc. etc.
I scoured the article and could not find any mention of AMD processors, very strange.
My conclusion, based on this and several other factors, is that saying Intel is too late to be relevant is like saying since Microsoft is late to market its to late for them to be relevant *cough*
It is an underestimate of what years of monopoly, patents, deeeep pockets, and being in bed with Microsoft can do to your longevity at this point.
Jeremy
Heh... people were actually being rather polite to you :)
Jeremy
Aww come on AFC, leave Bob Abooey, you tried to get his UID revoked, or at least you said you were going to.
He subtly alters the messages enough to prove he is most likely not a script bot Either you are being facetious in saying these things or not.
Check out his message the body of them alters slightly from post to post.
Jeremy
BTW, I think your human so its alright :)
/. hehehe)
(Who knows.. space aliens could be using
Jeremy
Okay okay.
:)
/. :)
:)
I realize it is a bit (assumptive?) of me to say what I did, but I am going to point out just a couple of things that I don't believe make me better or more impotant than anyone else here..
I only use my +1 bonus by accident when I forget to even check it.
Since I dont really agree with nor care about Karma, I read articles at -1 Threaded, Oldest First. That is my personal preference nothing more nothing less. But I also have noticed that you really do miss something if you decide to read score:2 and up. Score:2 and up is the suggested way to read an article by some folks around here I believe. Also reading at -1 Threaded, Oldest first does NOT relate to disliking Karma either. That is just my personal preference.
I really really am not complaning about not getting moderated really, it does not matter to me. I agree it is assumptive of me to say because of my contrary thinking/posting and also understand where your original line of posting came from and apologize for saying you were degrading me. I still do believe your approach could have been more constructive but I respond kindly to anything except real obvious trolls. Thanks for posting your email, I realize a lot of people do not really mind AC posting but I do appreciate the fact that you posted your email
Also I openly admit if I do not sit down and think about what I am fixing to say my mind skips and it really does come out an incoherent jumble that you probably have to read a couple of times to understand, whereas someone else probably says it better and they get moderated. I am aware of that and it does not bother me. I just think harboring certain opinons around here can cause you moderation/meta mod grief.
I have seen moderators with agendas moderate my posts, that always peeves me especially when it happens to me (yes it DOES happen, maybe not as often as I depicted but it does occur)
Hehe
I think I have found one of your pet peeves on
Jeremy
P.S. I hated both college english courses I have taken and I barely survived them even realizing the importance of having a good command of the language. Learning english just really preturbs me
*yawn yawn yawn* I messed up one
/. when really I am just thanking the editors for their efforts.
/.) I will make it legible and understandable so that more people will take it seriously.
tag so freaking sue me. My message is clear enough.
I work and often find myself not really worrying a whole lot about coherently structuring a post to
When I have something important to say (not often at all on
I do not have time to really complain about other peoples grammatical prowess or lack thereof. I do not have time to degrade and insult people anonymously.
So I thank you for your time however I feel it is largely wasted since I think you were a bit destructive as opposed to being constructive with your criticism.
I also believe that people with your attitude are generally what tend to make people a little peeved with the attitudes going around here. Go ahead look over my userinfo it seems you have plenty of time to do so. Look at my posts, you will see that whenever I choose to reply lucidly I do so, otherwise I am myself and I try not to contirbute to much to noise here.
So please please before you negatively treat people like this ask yourself if it is you are really accomplishing.
Jeremy
Hehhhehe you guys are getting testier as time goes by ehh? :)
/. does a pretty good job with their site, I like BSD, not Linux, I dont like perl *poke /. folks think we could have a php port ;)? (kidding!! :)* etc. etc., but anyways I just feel compelled to counter act some of the negative shit people post.
/. until tommorow), anyways you guys do good work and despite the fact that some people probably know about every source forge project in existence, this is something interesting and worthwhile.
:)
:) thats why you have the option of reading /. how you want :).
/. instead of complaning about the 2% of it that bothers you?
:P
Can't say I blame you, I complained like once or twice when I first got here but now ive dealt with handling spammers on a few sites I wrote, and ive seen how utterly pointless it is to constantly chastise you guys for this (it gets so old seeing the same thing differently worded every article and then being modded up?) R
Moderators? Dont you EVER get tired of moderating up the same redundant crap??
I know I never get modded very high because I tend to be contrary to how a lot of people think here, I dont mind MS, I think
(And no this is not sucking up anyone who feels like flaming or what not, I could give a care since in about 10 minutes im not reading
Hmmn.. my main point is.. you guys do good work and even if I occasionally disagree (everyone does), I dont think its worth it to say the same thing everyone else does and further piss you guys off, so I say good job
Now go ahead moderate me into oblivian, see if I care, I read at -1 and dont really care for the moderation system
Maybe more people should loosen their sphincters a little and focus on the overall good of
To, whom every this applies
Jeremy
Oxygen, dont forget what we breath is only like 20 some odd percent oxygen and the rest nitrogen, breathing pure O will make you pass out eventually. Nitrogen is like 70 percen tof the atmosphere we breath if I remember properly... :)
Jeremy
Really man what is your trip?
You run around spreading stuff like this and calling me an idiot because I said "Comparing two sites over the internet wherein you have next to no data about the hardware or site configurations and saying that servlets are slower because the site x loads slower than site z" is totally unscientific and you tripped out asking me if I knew what traceroute is.
Now you are sitting here trying to spread more crap.
I mean, really I can understand some things but here you go again, "an amd webserver cant sustain a ping under 100 ms".
That is such garbage and you and I both know it.
lets see there is no such thing as an AMD web server. There are webservers with AMD chips in them but your just spouting random bullshit and I dont mind saying so.
Lets see were you pinging over the net?, were you pinging over a LAN? Was the server you were pinging loaded, what kind of NIC were you using, were you using the most recent drivers, what operating system were you using, what kind of memory was in the machines, what kind of motherboards were in use, what is the connection speeds on both ends.
Lets come back to reality and speak like adults and present each other with useful facts not just silly facts like "slashdot loads in 2.5 seconds winamp's site loads in 10, therefore perl is faster than servlets"
Jeremy
lol does that count punctuation, more or less a sustained 120 wpm typist should be ablet o look at anything and touch type at 120wpm.
okay.. the conspiracy theory comment was out of line :) and really im not very qualified at all to critisize debian I have never even used it :)
Jeremy
While I agree I dont see why sticking Debian on this was such a great idea.
:) nothing wrong with this, its fun and you can learn a lot doing stuff like this
Have people ever heard of Lineo? Embeded Linux?
Really truly if a project to put Linux on a PDA were to be useful beyond the "look what I can do!!", there needs to be some sort of low level graphics system for displaying to things like a palm and such.
That is a start. Then you need to make this interface useful and easy to use.. IE: you develop on a desktop and then test apps on the PDA. Maybe if you can plug a mini Keyboard into the PDA it would be a little nicer and make it more of a "pocket PC".
Im trailing off, what I mean is installing a distro like Debian, or whatever on a PDA is kind of useless aside from it being fun to do.
If.. there was a group actually serious about writing a system in Linux to make PDA's more useful and open to (programmers) then I could truly seing this as beneficial since you would then have the world of Linux at your hands.
A scaled back version of gnome for PDA's is nice (cough cough) wasnt there a group working on that, whatever happened to them??
I think some groups are moving in this direction, but I don't really see any concentration of development being done to make headway to making the PDA's useful, I just see peoplke getting their jollies by showing off what they can do
But I do agree its usefuless is truly limited a great deal in usefulness.
Jeremy
Those are some pretty broad and sweeping claims to say that basically most every major software player gets ideas from debian, any conspiracy theories to back this up?
How would you pitch the fact that something will work soon to a PHB?
Im not saying it cant be done im just asking how do you get them to trust the whole open source process?
Jeremy