I said the result made it worth it didnt I, but its a gamble, that little girl had no way of knowing if she would devlop leukemia withint he frame she was waiting for her donor to be created.
Its a roll of the dice, they won, others might not.
"Try that with xyz" I never said a thing about Microsoft or how it relates to the topic.
The fact is evne if you can test it out, when you need a solution you cant wait for a devleopment cycle to be completed. When I have a deadline or a timeline to work on im not going to say oh lets just wait for Linux to encorporate this feature when others operating systems already have it or can do feature xyz.
Its nice to know whats ocming and be able to tinker iwth it and paly with the source, and I stand by FreeBSD, Linux, and any OS with an open development cycle because of this access.
Plain and simple tho, if I need something now I cant wait for Linux to have it, evne if it isnt vaporware, its still "not usable ware"
Yeahim sure this is informative, its really good to know, I did not know this, but this seems like a typical response from a Linux Enthusiast.
"Oh oh we dont have this feature yet but it WILL be in next version....."
It just seems like well I dont know, and I know Linux is progressing much faster than it has ever before, but I could go do the same thing with FreeBSD and im sure I can max out a switch.....
The main thing I want to say is just that it doesnt seem fair or rather helpful to this guy that a kernel that isnt even production level does what he needs it to.
I suppose you got modded up because you were showing facts about Linux, but Apache runs on many platforms not just Linux
So I dont really know what the point of the post was, other than the fact that a Dell comes with Linux 6.2 => or is that RedHat 6.2?:) But my first thing to do is to take Linux off and throw FreeBSD on there:)
No clue what hardware/server/configuration Winamp is running, little clue about the actual setup of/. and its configuration.
Little clue of the networks bandwidth and load on the server and the statistics of the typical loads and times you checked these "two pages" little idea of just how,many servers/. actually has running the site.. do you see whereim going here?
Perl is going to be quicker up to a point.
Then it takes really tight configuration like/.'s to make perl scale.
However I say Servlets are equal to or better than Perl on a load like/.'s
I have no actual proof and im not going to even ATTEMPT to try some lame stuff like the "well this page over the INTERNET took xyz seconds to load" I mean really come on that is just totally invalid and so unscientific it hurts. Yeah you COULD be right and it COULD be but youd a traffic less LAN and tons of other variables youd need absolute control over. Now that said, heres my experience with servlets.
We have quietly rewritten portions of our applications business logic to use servlets instead of other technologies (ColdFusion) and just using CF for presentation.. the application served pages quicker and with a heavier load, to the point where it was easily visible. This is a highly tuned ColdFusion application versus some servlets which have not been tuned all that much.
The resulsts were enough to make me a believer.
Ive set up mod_perl and yes it can perform, obviously it can handle a site like/., but I will take the configuration hassles of setting up the servers for servlets over getting mod_perl to work any day, then you ahve the whole portability thing, i can drop our business logic onto massive Sun machines running sun hardware at the drop of a hat and have damn near instant "scalability" as long as you design your applications properly, it works and given the threaded nature of Java and just the whole design from the ground up, im willing to bet that servlets are a better choice all around.
I have no hard data to prove anything, but im not going to feed people stuff like "well/. loaded 2.5 seconds sooner"
Jeremyhell PLEASE dont take my word for it, but dont go spreading stuff like that please
Once you go to the darkside you can never come back.
hehe, avoid the urge to post to an empty article something totally useless just to get the first post.. hehehe its dangerous ground to walk on, the temptation will overtake you if your new to/.:-P
Are you just pulling these numbers from the ether?
Wheres the 1/4 as slow come from?
Links, URL's, Papers something a little more backed up than just a figure?? Come on that is pure crap.
Java's Inherent latency???? Since when??
In case you didnt notice once a servlet is compiled into bytecode and everything gets cached into memory the damn things FLY since there is so little to really be done to process the servlet.
I think you are just countering a Anti-FUD post with more FUD.
This is an interesting thought, they fertilize several embryo's (I wonder what abortion people thinka bout this one ehh...) and then they test them until they find one they want with the right cell types, nothing rocket science ish here. The technique they used was something I had not heard before....
So then they discard all but the one they wanted and took a bit of a gamble for the kids health.
The disease she has developers into leukemia(sp) if not treated so they waited 9 months in which time the condition could have worsened so they could use the babies blood.
What strikes me as.. not so great is they were willing to take a gamble of 9 months to improve their odds of sucess from 50-85%, im not sure the odds of the condition worsening but it definately seemed a little risky.. but the ned result made it worth it, but still I dont know how "good" this all is.. R Jeremy
Well since your replying anonymously ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you moderated this.
AMD now has the dresden fab up and Intel is seriosuly having a hard time meeting demands even for large distributors.. thanks but that was pretty crude.
It appears I was wrong about the CFC's. The main issue with them appears to be they actually reached the stratosphere.
However those links do point out a few interesting things about how much chemicals things liek the ocean and volcano's generate (Yes its VERY significant) such as sulfur as mnuch as half of the sulfur in the atmosphere comes from colvano's (Liberal statement)
Another thing to point out is the Ozones damn near disappearance over anartica, no one can explain it and were pretty sure humans didnt cause it
Its another one of those "Earth cycles we dont understand" i was talking about.
I just think that we wont contribute very much and who knows maybe 1 or 2 percent is enough to FUCK us all
Maybe it isnt, i dont lose any sleep over it and I give the "environmentalist" approach as much effort as my life can. I wasnt necesarilly trying to be insightful or anything with my comment, its just pretty well known that we understand very little about things such as the weather and the patterns of earth we are a blink in the eye of earth, and I think no matter how bad we fuck things up earth will recover maybe more slowly, but whose not to say dinosaurs did the same thing, whose to say what we are doing is not a natural part of this process we are a part of the planet, thats all my point is that no matter what people say, no one can honestly know for sure, and it didnt take a graduate degree for me to come to this conclusion..
Sorry It is pretty asanine to state there is nog reenhouse effect, I know it exists I just dont think humans as a whole really add to much effect to it overall.
*chuckle* thats the point humans are so fucking smart but we cant seem to get grips on one simple thing such as being responsible for ourselves, earth will take care of us too. Who cares I have a car that sucks more gas than you can imagine, its really fun to drive too. I recycle, I do my part as far as one person can go to not be incredibly wasteful, I make concious decisions that are easy to make as a consumer to not waste much (except the car thing..) But my emissions are really clean even without cats.... anways,my point is if we are so hell bent on eliminating ourselves why complain.
You should have read the patent, this system can create documents editable by multiple people all at once which contain audio, video and text data.. SGML can do all of that, they ahve 24 VERY vague claism about what htis patent covers, its so huge and sweeping its hard to say what the hell they are patenting.
anyways patents like this are of questionable validity.. netscape has some freaky patents on just typing in something like "www.aol.com" and it ifguring out the protocl and opening the page.. and thats patented!!:P
And.. there are those of us who believe that for the most part the "greenhouse effect" is a bunch of BS. More CFC's are released from one single volcanic eruption than you can dream of releasing in your lifetime.
Yeah some things like smog are rather nasty, but that is something pretty easy to fix, things like "the world will become a toxic" waste are just a bunch of stupid crap.
Unless someone gets crazy and tosses a few nukes about or something really I dont think we have any problems
Earth has its own cycles that we strive very hard to but never can comprehend.
lol, but by definition doesnt that not make you "like" other "freethinkers" in the fact that your being uncommon in fact makes you common with other people who are uncommon? Hehe, I kind of understand the beliefs are all different and it is not good to lump everyone into one category, but you yourself kind of categorized yourself as being a "freethinker":P
Heh, that is one of the points of church that most people seem to miss! *snickers* meeting people of similar faith, perhaps just tolerating the "ritualized dogma" so they can be around people with similar beliefs? That is pretty important to me to be around people like me..
*smirk* well when you have a sanely set up system, no one can access root and id limit the number of processes per user to oh say, 16-32 depending on need and memory to oh say 16-32MB depending on need, so it would stop dead in its tracks, as long as you set up the user accounts properly shit like that doesnt happen...
We always hash the passwords in our database, real quick n easy. NEVER store credit cards, yes its damn convenient to store them in the database, but is it so hard to type a few digits I mean is it THAT big of a deal to type your CC number each time? I know its more prone to error, but I am always leery of having so much sensitive data in a single place.. developers, admin staff, hackers.. the whole world has access to the CCN's then.. I just dont play that;)
Need Experience, Need a degree....:) Those are my two limiting factors. Degree.. I can live without, but I only have about 2 years of professional experience (I am only 20..:)
I live in atlanta so the market is huge up here I just dont think I can comman dmuch more than im being salaried right now for the near future, I need a little stability to put my lazy ass thru college:)
Heh no they go insane and wander around gibbering madly.. G
Seriously, I have really contemplated becoming a mechanic. I take pride in anything I do, and with maybe a few months of actual work experience I am sure I would be able to do most any job. I can read:)
I find working on cars very satisfying (in the same way writing programs is satisfying). I dont mind getting out and getting dirty, ive tore apart an engine and put it all back toghether just following a couple of books and a little advice here and there.
Point is just because someone can do IT work doesnt mean tahts the only technically skilled jobs on the planet...
If I pull to many more 80 hour weeks I may be one of those insane gibbering fools.
Some of the time id almost rather have a job turning wrenches as opposed to the crazy startup environment, but the work experience, and doors this job opens will keep me here, plus I really do enjoy the work when its not to much:)
I really find it hard to believe some of you folks just like have nothing to do all day, come take about half my work load...:)
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I said the result made it worth it didnt I, but its a gamble, that little girl had no way of knowing if she would devlop leukemia withint he frame she was waiting for her donor to be created.
Its a roll of the dice, they won, others might not.
Jeremy
That feels like putting words in my mouth.
"Try that with xyz" I never said a thing about Microsoft or how it relates to the topic.
The fact is evne if you can test it out, when you need a solution you cant wait for a devleopment cycle to be completed. When I have a deadline or a timeline to work on im not going to say oh lets just wait for Linux to encorporate this feature when others operating systems already have it or can do feature xyz.
Its nice to know whats ocming and be able to tinker iwth it and paly with the source, and I stand by FreeBSD, Linux, and any OS with an open development cycle because of this access.
Plain and simple tho, if I need something now I cant wait for Linux to have it, evne if it isnt vaporware, its still "not usable ware"
Jeremy
Yeahim sure this is informative, its really good to know, I did not know this, but this seems like a typical response from a Linux Enthusiast.
:) But my first thing to do is to take Linux off and throw FreeBSD on there :)
"Oh oh we dont have this feature yet but it WILL be in next version....."
It just seems like well I dont know, and I know Linux is progressing much faster than it has ever before, but I could go do the same thing with FreeBSD and im sure I can max out a switch.....
The main thing I want to say is just that it doesnt seem fair or rather helpful to this guy that a kernel that isnt even production level does what he needs it to.
I suppose you got modded up because you were showing facts about Linux, but Apache runs on many platforms not just Linux
So I dont really know what the point of the post was, other than the fact that a Dell comes with Linux 6.2 => or is that RedHat 6.2?
Jeremy
Well thats just as scientific as it gets isnt it?
/. and its configuration.
,many servers /. actually has running the site.. do you see whereim going here?
/.'s to make perl scale.
/.'s
/., but I will take the configuration hassles of setting up the servers for servlets over getting mod_perl to work any day, then you ahve the whole portability thing, i can drop our business logic onto massive Sun machines running sun hardware at the drop of a hat and have damn near instant "scalability" as long as you design your applications properly, it works and given the threaded nature of Java and just the whole design from the ground up, im willing to bet that servlets are a better choice all around.
/. loaded 2.5 seconds sooner"
No clue what hardware/server/configuration Winamp is running, little clue about the actual setup of
Little clue of the networks bandwidth and load on the server and the statistics of the typical loads and times you checked these "two pages" little idea of just how
Perl is going to be quicker up to a point.
Then it takes really tight configuration like
However I say Servlets are equal to or better than Perl on a load like
I have no actual proof and im not going to even ATTEMPT to try some lame stuff like the "well this page over the INTERNET took xyz seconds to load" I mean really come on that is just totally invalid and so unscientific it hurts. Yeah you COULD be right and it COULD be but youd a traffic less LAN and tons of other variables youd need absolute control over. Now that said, heres my experience with servlets.
We have quietly rewritten portions of our applications business logic to use servlets instead of other technologies (ColdFusion) and just using CF for presentation.. the application served pages quicker and with a heavier load, to the point where it was easily visible. This is a highly tuned ColdFusion application versus some servlets which have not been tuned all that much.
The resulsts were enough to make me a believer.
Ive set up mod_perl and yes it can perform, obviously it can handle a site like
I have no hard data to prove anything, but im not going to feed people stuff like "well
Jeremyhell PLEASE dont take my word for it, but dont go spreading stuff like that please
Jeremy
yep tahts a common misconception about breaking glass and I bet very few people (read less than .00001percent ;p) can break glass.
You have to be able to yell at a certain frequency, and maintain it to get the glass vibrating to the point where it breaks.. NOT easy.
jeremy
Anita this looks like your first first post.
/. :-P
Once you go to the darkside you can never come back.
hehe, avoid the urge to post to an empty article something totally useless just to get the first post.. hehehe its dangerous ground to walk on, the temptation will overtake you if your new to
Jeremy
Are you just pulling these numbers from the ether?
Wheres the 1/4 as slow come from?
Links, URL's, Papers something a little more backed up than just a figure?? Come on that is pure crap.
Java's Inherent latency???? Since when??
In case you didnt notice once a servlet is compiled into bytecode and everything gets cached into memory the damn things FLY since there is so little to really be done to process the servlet.
I think you are just countering a Anti-FUD post with more FUD.
Jeremy
Thats taking this situation a bit to far
They used stuff that was going to be thrown out.
There is not a chance in hell you can probably get away with planned murder like that.
ethically you and I both know that is not proper nor right to do
Life is a crapshoot, not everyone wins and I think really tinkering with that is kind of unethical.
I see the line crossing going on when you attempt to produce a human for slaughter, thats wrong, and without a brain ON purpose is wrong
Jeremy
This is an interesting thought, they fertilize several embryo's (I wonder what abortion people thinka bout this one ehh...) and then they test them until they find one they want with the right cell types, nothing rocket science ish here. The technique they used was something I had not heard before....
So then they discard all but the one they wanted and took a bit of a gamble for the kids health.
The disease she has developers into leukemia(sp) if not treated so they waited 9 months in which time the condition could have worsened so they could use the babies blood.
What strikes me as.. not so great is they were willing to take a gamble of 9 months to improve their odds of sucess from 50-85%, im not sure the odds of the condition worsening but it definately seemed a little risky.. but the ned result made it worth it, but still I dont know how "good" this all is.. R
Jeremy
Well since your replying anonymously ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you moderated this.
AMD now has the dresden fab up and Intel is seriosuly having a hard time meeting demands even for large distributors.. thanks but that was pretty crude.
AMD or the chipsets?? heehee... You have it mixed up :) Intel is the ones who cant ship 1ghz reliably.. my AMD works fine thank you :)
Jeremy
Wow.. is all that crap real?
Heh.. *shrugs*
Jeremy
As many environmentalists as there are out there I somehow dont think they would win over the huge corporations..
Jeremy
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and and here
It appears I was wrong about the CFC's. The main issue with them appears to be they actually reached the stratosphere.
However those links do point out a few interesting things about how much chemicals things liek the ocean and volcano's generate (Yes its VERY significant) such as sulfur as mnuch as half of the sulfur in the atmosphere comes from colvano's (Liberal statement)
Another thing to point out is the Ozones damn near disappearance over anartica, no one can explain it and were pretty sure humans didnt cause it
Its another one of those "Earth cycles we dont understand" i was talking about.
I just think that we wont contribute very much and who knows maybe 1 or 2 percent is enough to FUCK us all
Maybe it isnt, i dont lose any sleep over it and I give the "environmentalist" approach as much effort as my life can. I wasnt necesarilly trying to be insightful or anything with my comment, its just pretty well known that we understand very little about things such as the weather and the patterns of earth we are a blink in the eye of earth, and I think no matter how bad we fuck things up earth will recover maybe more slowly, but whose not to say dinosaurs did the same thing, whose to say what we are doing is not a natural part of this process we are a part of the planet, thats all my point is that no matter what people say, no one can honestly know for sure, and it didnt take a graduate degree for me to come to this conclusion..
Jeremy
Sorry It is pretty asanine to state there is nog reenhouse effect, I know it exists I just dont think humans as a whole really add to much effect to it overall.
Jeremy
*chuckle* thats the point humans are so fucking smart but we cant seem to get grips on one simple thing such as being responsible for ourselves, earth will take care of us too. Who cares I have a car that sucks more gas than you can imagine, its really fun to drive too. I recycle, I do my part as far as one person can go to not be incredibly wasteful, I make concious decisions that are easy to make as a consumer to not waste much (except the car thing..) But my emissions are really clean even without cats.... anways,my point is if we are so hell bent on eliminating ourselves why complain.
Jeremy
You should have read the patent, this system can create documents editable by multiple people all at once which contain audio, video and text data.. SGML can do all of that, they ahve 24 VERY vague claism about what htis patent covers, its so huge and sweeping its hard to say what the hell they are patenting.
:P
anyways patents like this are of questionable validity.. netscape has some freaky patents on just typing in something like "www.aol.com" and it ifguring out the protocl and opening the page.. and thats patented!!
Jeremy
And.. there are those of us who believe that for the most part the "greenhouse effect" is a bunch of BS. More CFC's are released from one single volcanic eruption than you can dream of releasing in your lifetime.
Yeah some things like smog are rather nasty, but that is something pretty easy to fix, things like "the world will become a toxic" waste are just a bunch of stupid crap.
Unless someone gets crazy and tosses a few nukes about or something really I dont think we have any problems
Earth has its own cycles that we strive very hard to but never can comprehend.
Earth can take care of itself I think, *shrugs*
Jeremy
lol, but by definition doesnt that not make you "like" other "freethinkers" in the fact that your being uncommon in fact makes you common with other people who are uncommon? Hehe, I kind of understand the beliefs are all different and it is not good to lump everyone into one category, but you yourself kind of categorized yourself as being a "freethinker" :P
ugh i will go now
Heh, It doesnt matter its the truth, any seirous usage of drugs takes you no where, asking how old he is? That is pretty lame... lame lame lame.
Drugs are not cool, drugs fuck your life and take your money.
Anyways..
*shrugs*
Heh, that is one of the points of church that most people seem to miss! *snickers* meeting people of similar faith, perhaps just tolerating the "ritualized dogma" so they can be around people with similar beliefs? That is pretty important to me to be around people like me..
Jeremy
*smirk* well when you have a sanely set up system, no one can access root and id limit the number of processes per user to oh say, 16-32 depending on need and memory to oh say 16-32MB depending on need, so it would stop dead in its tracks, as long as you set up the user accounts properly shit like that doesnt happen...
Jeremy
Replying to a troll... *mutter*
We always hash the passwords in our database, real quick n easy. NEVER store credit cards, yes its damn convenient to store them in the database, but is it so hard to type a few digits I mean is it THAT big of a deal to type your CC number each time? I know its more prone to error, but I am always leery of having so much sensitive data in a single place.. developers, admin staff, hackers.. the whole world has access to the CCN's then.. I just dont play that ;)
Jeremy
Need Experience, Need a degree.... :) Those are my two limiting factors. Degree.. I can live without, but I only have about 2 years of professional experience (I am only 20..:)
:)
I live in atlanta so the market is huge up here I just dont think I can comman dmuch more than im being salaried right now for the near future, I need a little stability to put my lazy ass thru college
Jeremy
Heh no they go insane and wander around gibbering madly.. G
:)
:)
:)
Seriously, I have really contemplated becoming a mechanic. I take pride in anything I do, and with maybe a few months of actual work experience I am sure I would be able to do most any job. I can read
I find working on cars very satisfying (in the same way writing programs is satisfying). I dont mind getting out and getting dirty, ive tore apart an engine and put it all back toghether just following a couple of books and a little advice here and there.
Point is just because someone can do IT work doesnt mean tahts the only technically skilled jobs on the planet...
If I pull to many more 80 hour weeks I may be one of those insane gibbering fools.
Some of the time id almost rather have a job turning wrenches as opposed to the crazy startup environment, but the work experience, and doors this job opens will keep me here, plus I really do enjoy the work when its not to much
I really find it hard to believe some of you folks just like have nothing to do all day, come take about half my work load...
Jeremy