I live in San Jose. I have to visit Mountain View to get out of the soulless, polluting, sprawling suburb. SJ is a million people and a tiny downtown and many square miles of suburbs and cul-de-sacs. Mountain View was a nice little town with a cute downtown area, but now Mountain View has become a buffer zone around the Googleplex.
I guess you haven't tripped over them trying to navigate the movie theater parking lot at night. If it were a huge pile of bikes at least it would have been consolidated and out of the general walking traffic.
Different systems for different people is better than a unified computing platform. Not that there is much difference between FreeBSD and Linux architecturally. They are both POSIX and try to emulate the user experience of a decades old OS. It's rare to find software that will only run on one of them.
If you want a monocultural of operating systems you could switch to Windows. That one has the most weight behind it in terms of numbers and is standardized by a central authority (Microsoft). If everyone used Windows we could have all the benefits you are imagining that will occur when we "get unified".
I can't really blame Symbian for thinking they can succeed when RIM and Apple succeeded even if Palm failed.
Systems programming makes the system work and met its requirement. It is the bare minimum necessary to have a product. And isn't at all about selling the hardware. My contributions don't sell more Kindles or SHIELDs or Switches. My team makes sure devices can be manufactured and run without a flood or support calls. And to the original point, that it meets requirements like not disclosing IP the company wishes to protect.
So, it makes the most sense for a business to get all of its systems programming from the source that is the best and requires the least extra work - like porting - and then move all of the dollars saved to stuff the customer sees.
Assuming everyone has the same needs and goals are aligned. Which is frequently not the case.
Consultant - private BSD is not a model used extensively,
I never said it was common. Popularity doesn't alter the point.
most companies are still using Linux and other GPL software regardless of what they feel about the terms
For the ones that use it but don't comply with the terms pay a price. A price that is likely higher than the costs of porting the kernel to their board/SoC.
with a larger development community.
Really businesses don't care too much about that. The value of a large community is debatable. Especially if you can't share secret unreleased products on a public forum. I run into this one frequently at my current job. In some cases we reached out and hired people in those large communities.
Corporations are people. Money is free speech. And they are free to contribute to municipal, state and federal elections. I can only wonder how many direct attorneys received generous contributions from companies like Oracle.
Most corporations do not want to join your religion, or don't understand it.
They are free to develop in-house. But yeah to leverage a community driven projects like OpenWRT means that a community of open source advocates and the needs of a corporation would have to align. Or one or two crackpot BSD fanatics do it just to prove a point.
Now there are consultants that have their own BSD distros for embedded systems. You can hire them to get access to it. That's not the same model that Free Software advocates are used to, but it is a model that does make sense in the corporate world.
Giant lock on your single CPU router SoC is not a big deal.
The removal of the BKL is even recent in the Linux kernel (2010?), and it isn't making our typical 1-10 core environments faster or better. I think engineering for a purpose is more important than an expansive feature list.
If you wanted to make a massive parallel cluster then you really should run Linux, like many super computers do. (sorry FreeBSD!)
I've worked for a companies that struggle with uploading source (I mainly work as a Linux system software developer for embedded products). Cisco has trouble with this, because they are incompetent. NVIDIA, because they are paranoid about trade secrets. Amazon was good about sharing source when I worked there, but they've gone down hill as that team got bigger and more paranoid.
If they would have used FreeBSD or NetBSD, it has no such requirements to share modified versions.Plus it has great networking and packet filtering.
But most companies would rather try to save some money and effort doing things the wrong way. Violating software licenses along the way, hoping they won't get caught. In the long run that strategy is most costly.
You can thank the Electoral College system for that.
That's another example of things in the system that benefits a 2 party system. Procedural traditions like Senate and House majority and minority whips also supports a 2 party system. There are many other examples of how this system has been fortified over the years.
I'm still using my 2008 Mac Pro as my main game system (dual boot Windows 7), with a 1070 Ti it still runs the games I play pretty nicely (MMOs mainly) and doesn't have nearly as much fan noise of my wife's Dell.
I think the era where your computer was obsolete every 2 years is over.
Voting for somebody that you don't want to be elected -- that's what sounds like a wasted vote to me.
That's what everyone says. But they still slavishly vote against the opposing side rather than voting for a particular candidate. Much of this can be resolved by voting reform. Improving the candidates can be solved by reversing Citizens United. People could become more educated on issues and expect real debates instead of a series of pandering-to-their-base soundbites.
But I'm not going to hold my breath. Or rather maybe it will get better when my generation breathes their last breath.
Not true. You have a choice between two flavors of bought-and-sold career politicians. Trump's win in 2016 shows that a bunch of people can come out of the woodwork, vote for an established party, and surprise the pollsters. Hillary was so confident and ran such a weak campaign because she sorely underestimated the effectiveness of the free coverage that Trump received in exchange for his bombastic soundbites.
You threw your vote away by not playing by the rules of our 2-party society. Maybe you are rebelling against a flawed system, but by your choice to vote 3rd party the system effectively excluded you from participating in democracy.
P.S. I was registered as LP for many years. So I'm not really judging you quite as harshly as I sounded.
The US is merely the headquarters of the world plutocracy but there are many vassal states that bow to our corporate masters.
All of Western Europe orbits around the US. And rather than trying to throw off the shackles of oppression they are vying to claim the crown as capital nation of plutocracy.
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I live in San Jose. I have to visit Mountain View to get out of the soulless, polluting, sprawling suburb. SJ is a million people and a tiny downtown and many square miles of suburbs and cul-de-sacs. Mountain View was a nice little town with a cute downtown area, but now Mountain View has become a buffer zone around the Googleplex.
I guess you haven't tripped over them trying to navigate the movie theater parking lot at night. If it were a huge pile of bikes at least it would have been consolidated and out of the general walking traffic.
I think I'd rather have dividends on AMZN stock. A 0.1% return would cost I think around $1B.
Other tech companies pay more like 0.05%, and even that can be a nice windfall if you have a significant number of shares.
dockless is like Mountain View where there are little yellow bikes laying around everywhere. You can even find them in the local creek
Different systems for different people is better than a unified computing platform. Not that there is much difference between FreeBSD and Linux architecturally. They are both POSIX and try to emulate the user experience of a decades old OS. It's rare to find software that will only run on one of them.
If you want a monocultural of operating systems you could switch to Windows. That one has the most weight behind it in terms of numbers and is standardized by a central authority (Microsoft). If everyone used Windows we could have all the benefits you are imagining that will occur when we "get unified".
I can't really blame Symbian for thinking they can succeed when RIM and Apple succeeded even if Palm failed.
Systems programming makes the system work and met its requirement. It is the bare minimum necessary to have a product. And isn't at all about selling the hardware. My contributions don't sell more Kindles or SHIELDs or Switches. My team makes sure devices can be manufactured and run without a flood or support calls. And to the original point, that it meets requirements like not disclosing IP the company wishes to protect.
So, it makes the most sense for a business to get all of its systems programming from the source that is the best and requires the least extra work - like porting - and then move all of the dollars saved to stuff the customer sees.
Assuming everyone has the same needs and goals are aligned. Which is frequently not the case.
why are you only going after the company that indexed the information?
why not both?
but realistically going after Google is a means to an end. Eliminate the value of this information by making it illegal to index it.
If a right is truly as important as you say,
I didn't say that. but whatever.
Consultant - private BSD is not a model used extensively,
I never said it was common. Popularity doesn't alter the point.
most companies are still using Linux and other GPL software regardless of what they feel about the terms
For the ones that use it but don't comply with the terms pay a price. A price that is likely higher than the costs of porting the kernel to their board/SoC.
with a larger development community.
Really businesses don't care too much about that. The value of a large community is debatable. Especially if you can't share secret unreleased products on a public forum. I run into this one frequently at my current job. In some cases we reached out and hired people in those large communities.
Maybe so, but that is a game of wack-o-mole that no one can win.
Corporations are people. Money is free speech. And they are free to contribute to municipal, state and federal elections. I can only wonder how many direct attorneys received generous contributions from companies like Oracle.
Releasing source code is a NO effort thing.
I spend such a tremendous quantity of time on this in my current job that I'm a little offended.
Most corporations do not want to join your religion, or don't understand it.
They are free to develop in-house. But yeah to leverage a community driven projects like OpenWRT means that a community of open source advocates and the needs of a corporation would have to align. Or one or two crackpot BSD fanatics do it just to prove a point.
Now there are consultants that have their own BSD distros for embedded systems. You can hire them to get access to it. That's not the same model that Free Software advocates are used to, but it is a model that does make sense in the corporate world.
And unfortunately, it's impossible to port it yourself
That's my old job from Cisco.
Even getting register lists from some of them is like pulling teeth.
Sorry about that. That's my current job at NVIDIA. It's not as straight forward as zipping up our documents and handing them over.
Point is though that there is a right way, and that way isn't the FreeBSD way.
Point noted, but dismissed as not applicable in this context. Thank you for your contribution.
Giant lock on your single CPU router SoC is not a big deal.
The removal of the BKL is even recent in the Linux kernel (2010?), and it isn't making our typical 1-10 core environments faster or better. I think engineering for a purpose is more important than an expansive feature list.
If you wanted to make a massive parallel cluster then you really should run Linux, like many super computers do. (sorry FreeBSD!)
I've worked for a companies that struggle with uploading source (I mainly work as a Linux system software developer for embedded products).
Cisco has trouble with this, because they are incompetent. NVIDIA, because they are paranoid about trade secrets.
Amazon was good about sharing source when I worked there, but they've gone down hill as that team got bigger and more paranoid.
If they would have used FreeBSD or NetBSD, it has no such requirements to share modified versions.Plus it has great networking and packet filtering.
But most companies would rather try to save some money and effort doing things the wrong way. Violating software licenses along the way, hoping they won't get caught. In the long run that strategy is most costly.
You can thank the Electoral College system for that.
That's another example of things in the system that benefits a 2 party system. Procedural traditions like Senate and House majority and minority whips also supports a 2 party system. There are many other examples of how this system has been fortified over the years.
I'm still using my 2008 Mac Pro as my main game system (dual boot Windows 7), with a 1070 Ti it still runs the games I play pretty nicely (MMOs mainly) and doesn't have nearly as much fan noise of my wife's Dell.
I think the era where your computer was obsolete every 2 years is over.
Instead of chastising someone for not voting for the D or R corrupt politician you should encourage more to vote third party.
go ahead. but until the system ceases to be rigged for 2 parties you will be wasting your votes.
Voting for somebody that you don't want to be elected -- that's what sounds like a wasted vote to me.
That's what everyone says. But they still slavishly vote against the opposing side rather than voting for a particular candidate. Much of this can be resolved by voting reform. Improving the candidates can be solved by reversing Citizens United. People could become more educated on issues and expect real debates instead of a series of pandering-to-their-base soundbites.
But I'm not going to hold my breath. Or rather maybe it will get better when my generation breathes their last breath.
Not true. You have a choice between two flavors of bought-and-sold career politicians. Trump's win in 2016 shows that a bunch of people can come out of the woodwork, vote for an established party, and surprise the pollsters. Hillary was so confident and ran such a weak campaign because she sorely underestimated the effectiveness of the free coverage that Trump received in exchange for his bombastic soundbites.
You threw your vote away by not playing by the rules of our 2-party society. Maybe you are rebelling against a flawed system, but by your choice to vote 3rd party the system effectively excluded you from participating in democracy.
P.S. I was registered as LP for many years. So I'm not really judging you quite as harshly as I sounded.
Government interference in a market is a socialism thing.
Can also be a fascist state thing. Lots of ways you can have government controlled markets that have nothing to do with right-left political spectrum.
The US is merely the headquarters of the world plutocracy but there are many vassal states that bow to our corporate masters.
All of Western Europe orbits around the US. And rather than trying to throw off the shackles of oppression they are vying to claim the crown as capital nation of plutocracy.