i'm usually more aware of this type of legislation but was caught off guard by this. So I did some digging at RIAA's site (better to know your enemy) and found this spin control document.
My favorite quote:
In recent weeks, the CARP rates have become the subject of an intense misinformation and propaganda campaign (so called "grassroots" but really ginned up by sophisticated lobbyists in D.C.)
nahhh it's not grass roots... it's ginned up by sophisticated lobbyists!
Hil Rosenator is smoking some crack if she expects people to really believe this but it is interesting. Whom did they have in mind? Well later on in the document they specifically name MTV, Microsoft, AOL/TW. With the exception of MTV (who's parent company may have some quarrels with RIAA) it seems like technology vs. copyright all over again. I just wish the tech companies would realize they are fighting this together and publicly unify against RIAA and other media hordes (whores?) who have clearly put aside internal bickering to concentrate on world domination through Project "Nickle and Dime" the fuck out of everyone.
I'm going to write a polite yet raw email to him expressing how i feel about low life... errr folks that prey on others. this isn't constructive work, in fact it is just as described... extortion
rmercado37@yahoo.com you'd think he could afford his own since he's gleaning money from other folks hard work....
Mailing Address:
PanIP
329 Laurel Street
San Diego, California
92101-1630 USA
I have written a lot of perl scripts that talk in SMTP and I don't see how that would be particularly effective. It would be pretty simple to capture that line of the transaction as a string and simply use regular expressions to copy the number and paste it back in for the next reply. It would also open up a DoS attack creating a large number of connections and forcing the server to recompute new large prime numbers.
The ironic part is from another social construct "apartment living" the rules are pretty simple. If, as a tenant in my complex, I stop paying them and suddenly become evicted the apartment complex is legally allowed to hold my possesions and sell them to recover damages.
My room mate is still owed over $8000.00 from his last employer. At the very least he should have been allowed to keep the laptop (that unfortunately his company leased) to help compensate. They offered him another deal with X amount of extra cash etc. But what kind of offer is that? They are promising to deliver money to me after failing to meet the exact same promise (of money delivery) for the last 5 weeks. At the very best case scenario here my room mate should be able to write off the lost compensation from his taxes, but who has time to study all that CPA bullshit?
"..For the past five years, this industry has been endlessly investigated by the government. They find nothing. And it costs us a fortune."
<rant>
Gee I wonder why, maybe, MAYBE it's because you are anticompetitive greedy whores and your companies should be broken up into little tiny pieces. that could just be my opinion.
BTW dickweed it costs US a fortune when you get investigated for 5 years. Who do you think funds those investigations!?!?
</rant>
I've seen a few posting in this same manner and I can see your point. One point that I think you are missing entirely is that whether or not these bugs are reported by these security advisors, they exist. And if they exist you can bet your last dollar someone is exploiting it somewhere. What these teams do is make it public so that someone has to fix the bug. Otherwise a group of very elite folks who figured it out in the first place are going to keep using it to intrude their way into someones servers.
People that claim to have found a bug are probobly the 10th or 11th person that found it. but at least they aren't of the mind to go find every server with that flaw and exploit the hell out of it.
the very fine line comes with the fact that once bugs are announced it's now a race called sysAdmins vs. script kiddies. This part I agree can suck for a lot of people. Keeping up with all of this is a tough job. Then again if you don't like the job go serve fries at McDonalds.
thothic
[ps. that whole Neo thing is not funny. (neoThoth.. shortened to neo) I had that handle way before that no talent ass monkey let the Matrix carry his career.
well your right in that he's charged with trafficking, although I think they would have gone with some type of contributory infringment attack as well. Kind of like napster and DeCSS all rolled into one.
one thing most people have over looked is the need of the prosecuting parties of our country to USE the new law they created. to them every law is a weapon in the fight against crime.
they definitely crossed a line on this one though, I hope heads roll for it
ne0
I agree with you, users really want these features with their email client. They are generally not going to be happy with a plain ASCII world. Not to mention the fact I use Outlook on one of my installations and it has the ability to TURN OFF all the features that allow these exploits (minus that one which over flowed the buffer just by receiving the message.. that was impressive). The sad fact is the market departments get to dictate that all this stuff (cool flashy not so secure and always prone to a million attacks user requests) get defaulted to ON. Less then 1% of users probobly even change configurations on a regular basis or explore these options for that matter.
I'm not sure I want to get rid of the practice of exectuables in my email tho. With the progression of bandwidth into the multiGigabyte range I forsee the day when people will send the latest VCD copy of the Final Fantasy 8 sequel as an attachment. What I'd rather see is a VMWare container that can run these attachements in to ensure they are safe.
This could be the recording and motion pictures industries way of dealing with all those 31337 w4r3z d00dz. Think how cheaply a large company could commit an attack of that magnitude. They own entire OC-48 connections, each (lots of companies comprise those industry groups).
I know it sounds all Johnny Mneumonic (allusion to the cyberpunk genre not the lame damn movie!) but a corporation spending money from a slush fund to pay off some hackers (or maybe just giving them crap loads of free promotional gear) to take out these servers. Hell maybe their own IT personel are in on it. If you had all the bandwidth and computing power in the world wouldn't you? Well they are a souless corporation... and they would.
I agree, the whole reason I started hating Netscape as a browser was it started trying to emulate IE. It feature bloated itself to death and now it's owned by the other Big Evil [TM] AOL.
And now that MS seems to overtly hate the Linux community I wouldn't doubt if ActiveX started breaking in Linux and not in Windows.
OTOH
it would be cool to start allowing all of the MS DCOM services to run on a linux platform. that way if some MS.Net server had anything of interest on it a Linux user could get to the information quickly and easily.
If this is opensource and the derivitive worked is protected as such how will this affect Micro$oft's new initiative against open source? Should we assume that they will lag behind in security (as they have proven in their networked history) because they are unwilling to comply with the open nature of the license???
I disagree with "and lawyers lack any sense of morals". Lawyers have adaptiveMorals (TM pending) which means they can change up their morality at any time. One minute they are putting killers in prison, the next they are setting them free using loopholes. It's a case of morality meets monetary induced schizophrenia. It's the same with freelance lobbyists, their morals and persuasion just go to the highest bidder. I believe currently there are some states that are enforcing penalties against frivilous lawsuits but not retarded harrassement suits like these.
The biggest problem with creating some type of penalty for that behavior is it defies conventions that keep the legal system standing. It's not permissable to punish someone for wanting to sue someone. Otherwise no one would sue anyone else for fear of reprisal. The problem I see is that of resource. If one side can only afford $1000 to fight the case (ppl with satirical barney sites) and the other side has $Millions of course the moneyed side is going to win.
So the solution I'd like to see put in place is that of equality of resources. If Giant Corp. wants to spend $5M on their case fine, but they have to help finanace Little Guy with only $1000 in his life savings. Kinda of like setting the pot limit in poker, except that you have to ante in for anyone who doesn't have as much as you do. THAT would make it a fair fight. Obviously not fair to the corporations, who lobby and write law... wait they can't write law... persuade others to write law, so this will just end up becoming another pipe dream/rant of mine.
thothic
I just emailed Mr. Carlin asking for Lyons Parnterships permission to create some violent content involving their famous trademark Barney. I think if enough of us ask surely someone will get it:)
Here is a copy of my letter, you may copy it as much as you like (also you may make fun of it and I promise not to sue)
After reading several articles on Slashdot,Wired,etc I have decided to pursue a new web site project. In this project I would like to create content that contains descriptions, links, audio transmissions, video transmissions, possibly alpha wave transmissions containing violent acts involving your famous trade mark BarneyTM.
The stories I've read seem to point to a boiler plate document that you sent out to numerous other sites that are attempting to muscle in on my idea of violence towards BarneyTM and contain the same language:
"We have reviewed your
website and have concluded that it incorporates the use and threat of
violence towards the children's character Barney without permission from
Lyons Partnership."
I am a law abiding citizen with an urge to create some content containing violent acts involving your famous trademark BarneyTM and seek permission from Lyons Partnership.
Below are the different things I'd like to include and I would appreciate a line by line analysis of what is permissible and what is not. Your comments must be included on each line, a blanket YES or NO will not suffice. Any items not commented on will be considered as consent on your part. Any blanket answers will also be acknowledged as consent for the entire list. If I haven't heard from you within 6 business days (July 12th, 2001) then I will acknowledge this as a consent on behalf of the Lyons Partnership. Any requests for an extension will probobly be denied. I have very strict time tables for this site.
obviously the list will be excluded from here...
Earlier someone complained about the $75.00 cost, which goes to show how pervasive ADD is in this readership. Learn to follow through to the end of the agreements spaz boy.
The $75 fee is if they actually ship you media, you can download it for free. Now you do have to receive the key to the super secret download url by receiving a letter at your residence or business. Which means you get to give them your address and information. Not so bad, but I read this line and thought twice about abstaining on my first amendment rights:
"
By signing the Solaris 8 Foundation Source license agreement, you agree that all Internet discussions about the Solaris 8 Foundation Source in which you are involved must be held on the Solaris 8 Foundation Source Discussion Forum. You will receive information about how to participate in this forum along with a special serial number that will enable you to access the forum once you download the product. The number will appear on your download receipt page under the heading "Serial Number." "
Ok let's review, it's free but I have to give you all my personal info and you can do what you want with it. So far not a bad deal. Now, you also want me to give up all my rights regarding talking about your product? Sure that sounds great, how about outside the internet. What if my friend who I told it about it then posts it to the internet? Is that contributory??
one last bit, here is a nice notice towards the end: PLEASE NOTE: IF YOU ARE ORDERING A MEDIA KIT BEFORE DECEMBER 11. YOU MAY SUBMIT YOUR ORDER TODAY BUT THE PRODUCT WILL NOT SHIP UNTIL AFTER DECEMBER 11.
Let's see, the FBI is chartered for which type of surveillence..
a) domestic
b) international
for those of you who guessed 'b' go watch Sneakers again, the FBI is only chartered for DOMESTIC surveillance.. Granted this isn't a true CIA type of operation but then again maybe it is. We aren't in the Cold War with Russia anymore because it doesn't exist! I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if this was a russian mob outfit. I wouldn't be suprised if these guys were incredibly guilty, however; I don't thing our offices have any f'scking clue as to how to deal with this kind of crime.
Fact is if it's an international problem we had a whole team (CIA) to deal with it and they were well versed on how to deal with international law. If Russia were still unified and had a ton of nuke's still pointed at us with a grim determination to preserve it's stance we would be scared shiteless right now.
Might doesn't make right, we have no right treating them as we are. the lowest common denominator needs to apply. What? No search and seizure protection in your country?? well we have it so by default it should apply to you guys.
Just wait until this same scenario happens an it's China on the other side, then GW will be over there pretending not to apologize while politely apologizing as our stealth recon planes scan to make sure a hailstorm of ICBM's aren't suddenly heading our way.
This is very disconcerting, the $299 price that has been advertised relies on the purchaser using one of the preferred providers (Bell South Mobility,Pac Bell). Voice Stream provides GSM service in my area already and is slated to gain a contract with Visor later on, however; without a subsidized plan the cost skyrockets to $499!
Well I decided to take the step and write my congressmen remarking on the use of 'riders' and the unconsitutional provisions from this bill. Now I'm afraid that I qualify for wire and datataps since I ardently oppose them. Have we had an article about encrypting phone conversations yet??
"Unless and until you can guarantee your internet signal is only available within your territory, you cannot put video on your website," he said. "We're going to go forward with that and we're going to see how it evolves."
First I've never actually heard anyone refer to a net 'signal' before in my life. Sounds like he hasn't clue[0] in his head about how the Internet actually works. Although engineering a solution for this seems possible, why would anyone ever want to invest in limiting technologies?? It defeats the entire purpose of the Net. He says "We're going forward with that", but he isn't. He's going backwards, back to the days when BBS ruled the earth and Fido still roamed the planet.
We may live in a global village, but it has become glaringly obvious that one can not cross the street with information without breaking a slew of local, national, and international laws.
Reminds me of the matter compilers from Stephenson's "The Diamond Age". Granted these are nanites that assemble raw materials into food, clothing, etc and keeping up with the Jones was about having a 'bigger' MC than your neighbor. Still makes me think that Star Trek is the basis for most innovations these days.
"Sci-Fi is the fuel for engineers imagination"
Amazingly the gaming consoles are going to start containing LAN possibilities, Xbox, psx2 (with a USB i think.. but that's 12 mb we can work with that), and maybe the dreamcast. I don't know for sure what this means, but the modem on the dreamcast I have is a module that clips on to the system. If it has an interface, there should be a way to get a NIC on there.
Jon Johanson's DeCSS was deemed inappropriate because it didn't satisify these criteria in DMCA
"(A) the person lawfully obtained the encrypted copy,phonorecord,performance, or display of the published work;
"(B) such act is necessary to conduct such encryption research;
(C) the person made a good faith effort to obtain authorization before the circumvention; and
"(D) such act does not constitue infrigement under this title....."
[Id. 1201(g)(2)]
What I am left wondering is that since he is a Norwegian citizen how do our laws apply to whether it was considered good faith encryption research? Does the law really have jurisdiction on a world wide scope? Is Jon expected to research the laws of DVD producers worldwide in an effort to comply with whatever IP laws they have? Clearly showing that DeCSS is illegal is the crux of the MPAA's case, without it there is nothing to traffick that is illegal.
"Who cares who wins or loses? I know damn well that DeCSS is never going away unless the world explodes in a giant fireball (or something better comes along). They may have one the battle but they will never win the war."
This isn't what the case is about, nor what you should be focusing on. The case is about trafficking in tools that circumvent protection devices, eg CSS. The fact is the case makes A HREF="someCSS.site.com"> illegal. That in and of itself has very broad implications as court cases use eachother as precidents. Destroying a person's right to link to other sites could very well bring about the downfall of the Web. There have already been cases where Plantiffs sought damages for 'deep linking', which seems insane.
Also, you can bet that these court cases are the first step in MPAA's plan to enhance their encryption technology for the next round of DVD's. They can't (hopefully) increase the encryption levels too high since they have to ensure that all the DVD players out there now will work with the newer ones, however if this case stands making a new deCSS will be hampered. It will be illegal for the author to distribute newDeCSS when it comes out and the MPAA will have a case precendent to work with making things that much easier for them. Somehow (having a judge who consulted for them is a start) they have fooled the courts into believing that as a legitamate consumer of DVD products I still have the right of fair use. It's quite obvious now (as my DVD player sits on a linux box) that I don't.
Slashdot Mirror
i'm usually more aware of this type of legislation but was caught off guard by this. So I did some digging at RIAA's site (better to know your enemy) and found this spin control document.
My favorite quote:
In recent weeks, the CARP rates have become the subject of an intense misinformation and propaganda campaign (so called "grassroots" but really ginned up by sophisticated lobbyists in D.C.)
nahhh it's not grass roots... it's ginned up by sophisticated lobbyists!
Hil Rosenator is smoking some crack if she expects people to really believe this but it is interesting. Whom did they have in mind?
Well later on in the document they specifically name MTV, Microsoft, AOL/TW. With the exception of MTV (who's parent company may have some quarrels with RIAA) it seems like technology vs. copyright all over again. I just wish the tech companies would realize they are fighting this together and publicly unify against RIAA and other media hordes (whores?) who have clearly put aside internal bickering to concentrate on world domination through Project "Nickle and Dime" the fuck out of everyone.
from the annals of BugTraq
...
> I was unable to run the demonstration code on
> http://sec.greymagic.com/adv/gm001-ax/.
> I get the following error:
> "An error has occurred in this dialog."
>
> I am running Windows XP Professional 32bit with the latest patches.
GreyMagic software stated that:
> As a result of that incomplete "patch" IE5 and IE5.5 are still very much
> vulnerable to this attack in other resources. For a demonstration see
> http://sec.greymagic.com/adv/gm001-ax/.
If you have Windows XP, you will have IE6.
--
Tom Gilder
tom@tom.me.uk
I'm going to write a polite yet raw email to him expressing how i feel about low life... errr folks that prey on others. this isn't constructive work, in fact it is just as described... extortion
rmercado37@yahoo.com you'd think he could afford his own since he's gleaning money from other folks hard work....
Mailing Address:
PanIP
329 Laurel Street
San Diego, California
92101-1630 USA
Telephone: Email:
858-454-7095 rmercado37@yahoo.com
Fax:
858-454-4358
I have written a lot of perl scripts that talk in SMTP and I don't see how that would be particularly effective. It would be pretty simple to capture that line of the transaction as a string and simply use regular expressions to copy the number and paste it back in for the next reply. It would also open up a DoS attack creating a large number of connections and forcing the server to recompute new large prime numbers.
The ironic part is from another social construct "apartment living" the rules are pretty simple. If, as a tenant in my complex, I stop paying them and suddenly become evicted the apartment complex is legally allowed to hold my possesions and sell them to recover damages.
My room mate is still owed over $8000.00 from his last employer. At the very least he should have been allowed to keep the laptop (that unfortunately his company leased) to help compensate. They offered him another deal with X amount of extra cash etc. But what kind of offer is that? They are promising to deliver money to me after failing to meet the exact same promise (of money delivery) for the last 5 weeks. At the very best case scenario here my room mate should be able to write off the lost compensation from his taxes, but who has time to study all that CPA bullshit?
ne0
<rant> Gee I wonder why, maybe, MAYBE it's because you are anticompetitive greedy whores and your companies should be broken up into little tiny pieces. that could just be my opinion. BTW dickweed it costs US a fortune when you get investigated for 5 years. Who do you think funds those investigations!?!? </rant>
I've seen a few posting in this same manner and I can see your point. One point that I think you are missing entirely is that whether or not these bugs are reported by these security advisors, they exist. And if they exist you can bet your last dollar someone is exploiting it somewhere. What these teams do is make it public so that someone has to fix the bug. Otherwise a group of very elite folks who figured it out in the first place are going to keep using it to intrude their way into someones servers.
People that claim to have found a bug are probobly the 10th or 11th person that found it. but at least they aren't of the mind to go find every server with that flaw and exploit the hell out of it.
the very fine line comes with the fact that once bugs are announced it's now a race called sysAdmins vs. script kiddies. This part I agree can suck for a lot of people. Keeping up with all of this is a tough job. Then again if you don't like the job go serve fries at McDonalds.
thothic
[ps. that whole Neo thing is not funny. (neoThoth.. shortened to neo) I had that handle way before that no talent ass monkey let the Matrix carry his career.
well your right in that he's charged with trafficking, although I think they would have gone with some type of contributory infringment attack as well. Kind of like napster and DeCSS all rolled into one.
one thing most people have over looked is the need of the prosecuting parties of our country to USE the new law they created. to them every law is a weapon in the fight against crime.
they definitely crossed a line on this one though, I hope heads roll for it
ne0
I agree with you, users really want these features with their email client. They are generally not going to be happy with a plain ASCII world. Not to mention the fact I use Outlook on one of my installations and it has the ability to TURN OFF all the features that allow these exploits (minus that one which over flowed the buffer just by receiving the message.. that was impressive). The sad fact is the market departments get to dictate that all this stuff (cool flashy not so secure and always prone to a million attacks user requests) get defaulted to ON. Less then 1% of users probobly even change configurations on a regular basis or explore these options for that matter.
I'm not sure I want to get rid of the practice of exectuables in my email tho. With the progression of bandwidth into the multiGigabyte range I forsee the day when people will send the latest VCD copy of the Final Fantasy 8 sequel as an attachment. What I'd rather see is a VMWare container that can run these attachements in to ensure they are safe.
ne0
on AllYourBaseAreBelongTo.Us
This could be the recording and motion pictures industries way of dealing with all those 31337 w4r3z d00dz. Think how cheaply a large company could commit an attack of that magnitude. They own entire OC-48 connections, each (lots of companies comprise those industry groups).
I know it sounds all Johnny Mneumonic (allusion to the cyberpunk genre not the lame damn movie!) but a corporation spending money from a slush fund to pay off some hackers (or maybe just giving them crap loads of free promotional gear) to take out these servers. Hell maybe their own IT personel are in on it. If you had all the bandwidth and computing power in the world wouldn't you?
Well they are a souless corporation... and they would.
ne0
I agree, the whole reason I started hating Netscape as a browser was it started trying to emulate IE. It feature bloated itself to death and now it's owned by the other Big Evil [TM] AOL. And now that MS seems to overtly hate the Linux community I wouldn't doubt if ActiveX started breaking in Linux and not in Windows. .Net server had anything of interest on it a Linux user could get to the information quickly and easily.
OTOH
it would be cool to start allowing all of the MS DCOM services to run on a linux platform. that way if some MS
If this is opensource and the derivitive worked is protected as such how will this affect Micro$oft's new initiative against open source? Should we assume that they will lag behind in security (as they have proven in their networked history) because they are unwilling to comply with the open nature of the license???
I disagree with "and lawyers lack any sense of morals". Lawyers have adaptiveMorals (TM pending) which means they can change up their morality at any time. One minute they are putting killers in prison, the next they are setting them free using loopholes. It's a case of morality meets monetary induced schizophrenia.
It's the same with freelance lobbyists, their morals and persuasion just go to the highest bidder. I believe currently there are some states that are enforcing penalties against frivilous lawsuits but not retarded harrassement suits like these.
The biggest problem with creating some type of penalty for that behavior is it defies conventions that keep the legal system standing. It's not permissable to punish someone for wanting to sue someone. Otherwise no one would sue anyone else for fear of reprisal. The problem I see is that of resource. If one side can only afford $1000 to fight the case (ppl with satirical barney sites) and the other side has $Millions of course the moneyed side is going to win.
So the solution I'd like to see put in place is that of equality of resources. If Giant Corp. wants to spend $5M on their case fine, but they have to help finanace Little Guy with only $1000 in his life savings. Kinda of like setting the pot limit in poker, except that you have to ante in for anyone who doesn't have as much as you do. THAT would make it a fair fight. Obviously not fair to the corporations, who lobby and write law... wait they can't write law... persuade others to write law, so this will just end up becoming another pipe dream/rant of mine. thothic
I just emailed Mr. Carlin asking for Lyons Parnterships permission to create some violent content involving their famous trademark Barney. I think if enough of us ask surely someone will get it :)
Here is a copy of my letter, you may copy it as much as you like (also you may make fun of it and I promise not to sue)
After reading several articles on Slashdot,Wired,etc I have decided to pursue a new web site project. In this project I would like to create content that contains descriptions, links, audio transmissions, video transmissions, possibly alpha wave transmissions containing violent acts involving your famous trade mark BarneyTM.
The stories I've read seem to point to a boiler plate document that you sent out to numerous other sites that are attempting to muscle in on my idea of violence towards BarneyTM and contain the same language:
"We have reviewed your website and have concluded that it incorporates the use and threat of violence towards the children's character Barney without permission from Lyons Partnership."
I am a law abiding citizen with an urge to create some content containing violent acts involving your famous trademark BarneyTM and seek permission from Lyons Partnership. Below are the different things I'd like to include and I would appreciate a line by line analysis of what is permissible and what is not. Your comments must be included on each line, a blanket YES or NO will not suffice. Any items not commented on will be considered as consent on your part. Any blanket answers will also be acknowledged as consent for the entire list. If I haven't heard from you within 6 business days (July 12th, 2001) then I will acknowledge this as a consent on behalf of the Lyons Partnership. Any requests for an extension will probobly be denied. I have very strict time tables for this site.
obviously the list will be excluded from here...
Earlier someone complained about the $75.00 cost, which goes to show how pervasive ADD is in this readership. Learn to follow through to the end of the agreements spaz boy. The $75 fee is if they actually ship you media, you can download it for free. Now you do have to receive the key to the super secret download url by receiving a letter at your residence or business. Which means you get to give them your address and information. Not so bad, but I read this line and thought twice about abstaining on my first amendment rights:
" By signing the Solaris 8 Foundation Source license agreement, you agree that all Internet discussions about the Solaris 8 Foundation Source in which you are involved must be held on the Solaris 8 Foundation Source Discussion Forum. You will receive information about how to participate in this forum along with a special serial number that will enable you to access the forum once you download the product. The number will appear on your download receipt page under the heading "Serial Number." "
Ok let's review, it's free but I have to give you all my personal info and you can do what you want with it. So far not a bad deal. Now, you also want me to give up all my rights regarding talking about your product? Sure that sounds great, how about outside the internet. What if my friend who I told it about it then posts it to the internet? Is that contributory?? one last bit, here is a nice notice towards the end:
PLEASE NOTE: IF YOU ARE ORDERING A MEDIA KIT BEFORE DECEMBER 11. YOU MAY SUBMIT YOUR ORDER TODAY BUT THE PRODUCT WILL NOT SHIP UNTIL AFTER DECEMBER 11.
Let's see, the FBI is chartered for which type of surveillence..
a) domestic
b) international
for those of you who guessed 'b' go watch Sneakers again, the FBI is only chartered for DOMESTIC surveillance.. Granted this isn't a true CIA type of operation but then again maybe it is. We aren't in the Cold War with Russia anymore because it doesn't exist! I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if this was a russian mob outfit. I wouldn't be suprised if these guys were incredibly guilty, however; I don't thing our offices have any f'scking clue as to how to deal with this kind of crime.
Fact is if it's an international problem we had a whole team (CIA) to deal with it and they were well versed on how to deal with international law. If Russia were still unified and had a ton of nuke's still pointed at us with a grim determination to preserve it's stance we would be scared shiteless right now.
Might doesn't make right, we have no right treating them as we are. the lowest common denominator needs to apply. What? No search and seizure protection in your country?? well we have it so by default it should apply to you guys.
Just wait until this same scenario happens an it's China on the other side, then GW will be over there pretending not to apologize while politely apologizing as our stealth recon planes scan to make sure a hailstorm of ICBM's aren't suddenly heading our way.
ne0
all your servers are belong to us!
This is very disconcerting, the $299 price that has been advertised relies on the purchaser using one of the preferred providers (Bell South Mobility,Pac Bell). Voice Stream provides GSM service in my area already and is slated to gain a contract with Visor later on, however; without a subsidized plan the cost skyrockets to $499!
Well I decided to take the step and write my congressmen remarking on the use of 'riders' and the unconsitutional provisions from this bill. Now I'm afraid that I qualify for wire and datataps since I ardently oppose them. Have we had an article about encrypting phone conversations yet??
ne0
"Unless and until you can guarantee your internet signal is only available within your territory, you cannot put video on your website," he said. "We're going to go forward with that and we're going to see how it evolves."
First I've never actually heard anyone refer to a net 'signal' before in my life. Sounds like he hasn't clue[0] in his head about how the Internet actually works. Although engineering a solution for this seems possible, why would anyone ever want to invest in limiting technologies?? It defeats the entire purpose of the Net.
He says "We're going forward with that", but he isn't. He's going backwards, back to the days when BBS ruled the earth and Fido still roamed the planet. We may live in a global village, but it has become glaringly obvious that one can not cross the street with information without breaking a slew of local, national, and international laws.
Reminds me of the matter compilers from Stephenson's "The Diamond Age". Granted these are nanites that assemble raw materials into food, clothing, etc and keeping up with the Jones was about having a 'bigger' MC than your neighbor. Still makes me think that Star Trek is the basis for most innovations these days. "Sci-Fi is the fuel for engineers imagination"
Why not just auction the suckers?
Amazingly the gaming consoles are going to start containing LAN possibilities, Xbox, psx2 (with a USB i think.. but that's 12 mb we can work with that), and maybe the dreamcast. I don't know for sure what this means, but the modem on the dreamcast I have is a module that clips on to the system. If it has an interface, there should be a way to get a NIC on there.
Jon Johanson's DeCSS was deemed inappropriate because it didn't satisify these criteria in DMCA
"(A) the person lawfully obtained the encrypted copy,phonorecord,performance, or display of the published work;
"(B) such act is necessary to conduct such encryption research; (C) the person made a good faith effort to obtain authorization before the circumvention; and
"(D) such act does not constitue infrigement under this title....." [Id. 1201(g)(2)]
What I am left wondering is that since he is a Norwegian citizen how do our laws apply to whether it was considered good faith encryption research? Does the law really have jurisdiction on a world wide scope? Is Jon expected to research the laws of DVD producers worldwide in an effort to comply with whatever IP laws they have? Clearly showing that DeCSS is illegal is the crux of the MPAA's case, without it there is nothing to traffick that is illegal.
"Who cares who wins or loses? I know damn well that DeCSS is never going away unless the world explodes in a giant fireball (or something better comes along). They may have one the battle but they will never win the war."
This isn't what the case is about, nor what you should be focusing on. The case is about trafficking in tools that circumvent protection devices, eg CSS. The fact is the case makes A HREF="someCSS.site.com"> illegal. That in and of itself has very broad implications as court cases use eachother as precidents. Destroying a person's right to link to other sites could very well bring about the downfall of the Web. There have already been cases where Plantiffs sought damages for 'deep linking', which seems insane.
Also, you can bet that these court cases are the first step in MPAA's plan to enhance their encryption technology for the next round of DVD's. They can't (hopefully) increase the encryption levels too high since they have to ensure that all the DVD players out there now will work with the newer ones, however if this case stands making a new deCSS will be hampered. It will be illegal for the author to distribute newDeCSS when it comes out and the MPAA will have a case precendent to work with making things that much easier for them. Somehow (having a judge who consulted for them is a start) they have fooled the courts into believing that as a legitamate consumer of DVD products I still have the right of fair use. It's quite obvious now (as my DVD player sits on a linux box) that I don't.