then, it seems to me that a way around this, if you mistakenly or intentionally saw some of this mysterious M$ source would be to go th M$ and sign an NDA. Basically admitting that you saw it, but that you have just said, legally, that you won't use it.
Anyone? Anyone?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
(note: I do not support the type of
science funding that went into the creation of AIDS...
um. yes, you are a very intelligent person. so intelligent, in fact, that you seem to have forgotten the minute detail that AIDS isn't a disease, or a virus. It's a condition. (e.g. a minute number of "European-American" blood cells to "Native-American" blood cells. Sorry i didn't give them their proper cell names, but then i'd be being a cell-ist wouldn't i?)
you're thinking of HIV. but, like i said, you're smart and you knew that the evil white man invented it to give to the African-African population. Here's a quick question though (i figure you know this answer already because you're smart). How come, when my fellow European-Americans engineered this virus and stuck it in the Congo waiting for some monkeys to contract it, then give it to African-Africans, they forgot to make sure that the same genetics that cause a difference in melanin in European-American's ensured that "my people" would never contract it. I mean, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for me (as an obviosly racist scientist, right) to make a disease intended to kill African-Africans, African-Europeans, African-Asians, African-Australians, African-Antarcticans, African-South Americans, and African-North Americans and completely forget to make sure that it didn't kill European-North Americans, European-South Americans, European-Europeans, European-Asians, European-Australians, and European-Antarcticans.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i think we've just found a new test for geekdom approval. Mind, you, i don't think that's bad. Just set a bunch of guys in front of a pic of a themed box. what WM is it? what theme is it? extra points if they can name the dock-apps based on the icon.
for what it's worth, i think it's all enlightenment. You'll notice the dock-apps, but the bottom one is the icon-box that comes with E. I'm sure they just have it tweaked out.
Although, Level 9 loses brownie points in my book for using one of the default themes that come with E (albeit probably the best one).
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
ok. just in case any of you are wondering if this guy actually was joking, the answer is no. take a look at his user info and his previous posts.
No offense bro, but if you're looking for racism, you'll find it in the mirror when you're brushing your teeth in the morning.
The fact of the matter is this. Slashdot is news for nerds, stuff that matters. Being that the PS2 is/was the most anticipated console release in the past 3 years, it's no wonder that there have been a plethora of posts about it. If minorities can't afford it...so what. Most uppity white people i know can't afford a PS2. It's mostly not a question of cash, it's a question of priorities.
Whatever, you're probably the old guy that yells at people in a Wendy's every time they throw away the really crunchy french fry cause "there are children starving in africa." Let me tell you this, Bub....i offered an Etheopian kid that crunchy fry, he told me to go fuck myself.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
All the extra horsepower means is that Microsoft can bloat their way into it with "worthless" features that, if programmed properly, could have been done on a P100, but require PIII to operate with acceptable speed
you know...this is truer than you can know. The actual situation is such that console game developers can do almost (but not quite) as much with a 66Mhz chip for a playstation as PC developers can with a 600Mhz P-III Coppermine with a TNT2.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you know. the whole morning was a blur, but i'm pretty sure two security guards had to stop me from making out with my PS2 while i was waiting in line to pay for it.
(Dr. Evil voice): will you and the playstation 2 get a frickin' room.
idunno. i was one of the lucky ones. i remembered it was coming out at about 6:45am. Got to the bestbuy at about 7:30, ~7:45 the best buy PS2 gestapo handed out 130 tickets for the suckers....i was 107. It was pretty fun coming back at 9:45 to tell all the rice boys in "Prelude Type R's" (lmfao) that no ticket == no PS2.;-) That one's for beating me up in high school assholes!!!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
ok. here's the deal. anyone who says the games suck ass at console launch are crazy.
1st off, the PS2 is oooh so very badass. i've been cleaning my undies every 20 minutes since i got this thing....VERY SWEET!!!
Madden 2001 is absolutely, without argument, the best Madden ever. The physics are unbelievable, the only problem is i can't figure out how the dolphins keep scoring with a pass to the right? i mean, WTF?!?!?!
Yes, the games will get better. prolly the best game that will be out within' the next year will be GT3 (check out IGN.com for the scoop). But they're already one level higher than the dreamcast. (funny anecdote: when we were being hurded in to pick up our PS2's, they had a dreamcast display. $150 for a dreamcast. the display looked like they were sellin' bulk cassette tapes.)
Yes, the PS2 will go nowhere but up, and i already am severely impressed....oops, gotta go get my ass kicked by the Dolphins again. WTF?!??
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
someone was smokin' some rock when they posted this. The article in question is about "value" systems, not lower end ones.
right now, i own a P-III 300 and a K6-2 400. The only reason i consider these low end is because i'm a geek and more Mhz means....well, a bigger penis i guess...
Anyway....AMD K6-2/400 with a Voodoo3 3500 and 128Meg of ram plays Counter-Strike just fine...and, in the end, isn't that really all that matters?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
true. but these are very subtle differences in the grand scheme of things, and they certainly don't go so far as to make US English and British English two different languages.
the US word for dog: dog
the BK word for dog: dog
the French word for dog: Chien
sure, we have different slang in the UK and the US. but you DO know what a condom is don't you? Unfortunately, my french wife doesn't and now i have 3 kids and a bad case of the clap.
j/k.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
heh. i think that would probably be why i said "hindi" - read my post again.
BTW - Dialect != Language. There are a signifigant number of english dialects, french dialects, spanish dialects, etc. However, the language is still the same.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
US English is a little too encompasing for your purposes i would think. Are you talking southern US English? Californian english? New England English, etc? And who's to say that "US English" and "British English" are really all that different?
In response to your post, I don't think chinese is going to become a global language for a couple of different reasons.
1)When you say Chinese - are you speaking of Mandarin or Cantonese (i would assume Mandarin)?
2)Before china unseats the US as THE super-power, it needs to go through the same time of issues as the old soviet union did. I honestly don't see a communist dictatorship moving into the big seat any time soon. Russia is a slightly different beast, and they were never really on par with the states....that was more of an assumption, as they sacrificed almost everything internally for things like sputnik and the nuclear arms race.
I think one of the main reasons that people say chinese is going to become the main language of the world because it's the most spoken language in the world currently. Remember where most chinese speakers live...in China. The language is way too concentrated currently. Additionally, by that rational, Hindi has a high likelihood of becoming the global language as well. I find that idea laughable.
Oh well, let's just pick a frickin' language and be done with it.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
To be perfectly honest, i think that we're only going to go so far without a global language. As sad as it is for some "other-continenters" to face, english is just slipping into that role. You can argue about how this came about, but it's probably going to continue that way untill the US is no longer the #1 power in the world.
The issue is also this, while the US does not hold a monopoly on goold old DARPA Net, it was the first. and it comes to an argument of "when in rome..." If the internet was created by the spanish and everyone started to adopt that, i'm sure the language of the internet would be Spanish. (This is not to say that the de facto language right now IS english, but for all intents and purposes, english is the beast that rules).
I guess it's just getting annoying that everyone keeps having an argument about why it's so bad that English is becoming the foremost global language. Personally, i'm getting sick of it. Let's just pick a fsckin' language, make sure everyone speaks it (i guess except for people in the south - i still can't figure out what language that is they're speaking), and be on our merry way. If it's english, great...a ton of us already know what one. If not....i'm not lazy, and i'm willing to learn.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
however, i didn't see any mention of source. Which, technically wouldn't make BugTraq illegal for distributing source. this says a computer program, which by all rights is simply a compiled binary. Does a program compiled under Linux coun't as a program when stored on a windows box?
Additionally, even if source were to be made illegal, these beaurocrats have their thumbs so far up their asses that they would never stop to make mention of "working or unworking code!" If you want to submit plumberscrack.c on bugtraq. just make sure you forget a comma. Poof! you don't have working source anymore, and no one can accuse you of writing an illegal program cause A)It's source and B)It won't compile anyway.
Imagine it's like Haiku are now illegal. just make sure that A)You make sure the third line has 6 syllables, B)Tell the reader, if they want the haiku, to drop the last syllable.
A rose by any other name....
isn't illegal;-)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
the question also becomes one of licensing. is sony just going to roll over and say "go for it boys and girls, you can just take half of our hardware gaming market"
although sony is purported to be allowing reverse engineering (am i correct here?) and they do, in point of fact, make the vast majority of their money off video game sales, not the console, this is still going to take a huge bite out of their wallet.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
lol - i wouldn't exactly compare lodo to 5-points. Although i wouldn't exactly compare 5-points to places like east St. Louis or South Chicago.
people go to larimer, market, and 16th street because they're social creatures. Me? I'm anti-social. i go to larimer to laugh at the guy with the two gigantic mustangs painted poorly on the side of his green GT. i go to laugh at the guys who deliberately mistune their hogs and ducatis so they break every noise ordinance in the fsckin' city when they peel out.
And like the other guy said. the women in 'fuck me' pants don't hurt either.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Take Vouchers -- I advocate vouchers because public schools don't work compared to private schools. I also think that poor people should have the same ability to put their kids in the school of their choice as rich people.
your concepts are absolutely whack. private schools are better for PRECISELY the reason that opening them up to all people (read: vouchers) would kill them. Public schools aren't failing because of some mythical malaise surrounding these institutions. And if you give everyone a voucher to go to a private school, guess what...you just turned it into a public school. Sure, there are subtle differences, but these are moot in the long run.
As far as your view on the role government should play in people's lives, you've got the same problem as every other democrat/republican i've ever met. You all want more laws, it's just a question of whether your state or the federal government gets to make 'em and enforce 'em. I say to republicans and democrats and libertarians and the green party, keep your fucking laws off me.
oh. and if you're view is so en-fucking-lightened than what's with this cute little jibe:
Democrats believe passionately that the government has a role in shaping and molding people into having the beliefs they think they should have.
umm...i had a pretty democratic upbringing. and although i hate democrats now about the same as republicans, i take issue with that statement. It's fucking anti-democrat propaganda. but, lest this thread continue, i will say, you have you views, i have mine and nothing i will ever say or do will make you change your mind.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
pardon me for jumping in on this obviously partisan thread. but you guys, along with your democrat brethren are absolute morons.
the party is more important than the man
the man is more important than anything. when you start giving up your own beliefs for any group, you become a simple minded fool. The US was founded on the public for the good of the individual. not the other way around. It's pretty funny, though, for you to say that Bush or Gore would be okey-fucking-dokey in office just because of the fact that they'd sort of stick to an extremely loose set of standards set by other rich tax-raisers.
Oh well, at least Republicans are admitting that Bush is a fuckwit and that they're just voting republican because they believe that baby's shouldn't be slaughtered in the woom. but once you've been born, you're on your own fuck-o.
me? i'll be either voting Nader or writing in McCain. The two party system influences me about as much as race influences who my friends are.
BTW - assuming precedence, this post will be moderated up to 4.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Slashdot Mirror
then, it seems to me that a way around this, if you mistakenly or intentionally saw some of this mysterious M$ source would be to go th M$ and sign an NDA. Basically admitting that you saw it, but that you have just said, legally, that you won't use it.
Anyone? Anyone?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
(note: I do not support the type of science funding that went into the creation of AIDS...
um. yes, you are a very intelligent person. so intelligent, in fact, that you seem to have forgotten the minute detail that AIDS isn't a disease, or a virus. It's a condition. (e.g. a minute number of "European-American" blood cells to "Native-American" blood cells. Sorry i didn't give them their proper cell names, but then i'd be being a cell-ist wouldn't i?)
you're thinking of HIV. but, like i said, you're smart and you knew that the evil white man invented it to give to the African-African population. Here's a quick question though (i figure you know this answer already because you're smart). How come, when my fellow European-Americans engineered this virus and stuck it in the Congo waiting for some monkeys to contract it, then give it to African-Africans, they forgot to make sure that the same genetics that cause a difference in melanin in European-American's ensured that "my people" would never contract it. I mean, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for me (as an obviosly racist scientist, right) to make a disease intended to kill African-Africans, African-Europeans, African-Asians, African-Australians, African-Antarcticans, African-South Americans, and African-North Americans and completely forget to make sure that it didn't kill European-North Americans, European-South Americans, European-Europeans, European-Asians, European-Australians, and European-Antarcticans.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
oh my GOD that sig is funny man. sorry, but now i have to pirate that in casual conversation.
that's just fuckin' funny
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i think we've just found a new test for geekdom approval. Mind, you, i don't think that's bad. Just set a bunch of guys in front of a pic of a themed box. what WM is it? what theme is it? extra points if they can name the dock-apps based on the icon.
for what it's worth, i think it's all enlightenment. You'll notice the dock-apps, but the bottom one is the icon-box that comes with E. I'm sure they just have it tweaked out.
Although, Level 9 loses brownie points in my book for using one of the default themes that come with E (albeit probably the best one).
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
ok. just in case any of you are wondering if this guy actually was joking, the answer is no. take a look at his user info and his previous posts.
No offense bro, but if you're looking for racism, you'll find it in the mirror when you're brushing your teeth in the morning.
The fact of the matter is this. Slashdot is news for nerds, stuff that matters. Being that the PS2 is/was the most anticipated console release in the past 3 years, it's no wonder that there have been a plethora of posts about it. If minorities can't afford it...so what. Most uppity white people i know can't afford a PS2. It's mostly not a question of cash, it's a question of priorities.
Whatever, you're probably the old guy that yells at people in a Wendy's every time they throw away the really crunchy french fry cause "there are children starving in africa." Let me tell you this, Bub....i offered an Etheopian kid that crunchy fry, he told me to go fuck myself.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
All the extra horsepower means is that Microsoft can bloat their way into it with "worthless" features that, if programmed properly, could have been done on a P100, but require PIII to operate with acceptable speed
you know...this is truer than you can know. The actual situation is such that console game developers can do almost (but not quite) as much with a 66Mhz chip for a playstation as PC developers can with a 600Mhz P-III Coppermine with a TNT2.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you know. the whole morning was a blur, but i'm pretty sure two security guards had to stop me from making out with my PS2 while i was waiting in line to pay for it.
;-) That one's for beating me up in high school assholes!!!
(Dr. Evil voice): will you and the playstation 2 get a frickin' room.
idunno. i was one of the lucky ones. i remembered it was coming out at about 6:45am. Got to the bestbuy at about 7:30, ~7:45 the best buy PS2 gestapo handed out 130 tickets for the suckers....i was 107. It was pretty fun coming back at 9:45 to tell all the rice boys in "Prelude Type R's" (lmfao) that no ticket == no PS2.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
ok. here's the deal. anyone who says the games suck ass at console launch are crazy.
1st off, the PS2 is oooh so very badass. i've been cleaning my undies every 20 minutes since i got this thing....VERY SWEET!!!
Madden 2001 is absolutely, without argument, the best Madden ever. The physics are unbelievable, the only problem is i can't figure out how the dolphins keep scoring with a pass to the right? i mean, WTF?!?!?!
Yes, the games will get better. prolly the best game that will be out within' the next year will be GT3 (check out IGN.com for the scoop). But they're already one level higher than the dreamcast. (funny anecdote: when we were being hurded in to pick up our PS2's, they had a dreamcast display. $150 for a dreamcast. the display looked like they were sellin' bulk cassette tapes.)
Yes, the PS2 will go nowhere but up, and i already am severely impressed....oops, gotta go get my ass kicked by the Dolphins again. WTF?!??
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
someone was smokin' some rock when they posted this. The article in question is about "value" systems, not lower end ones.
right now, i own a P-III 300 and a K6-2 400. The only reason i consider these low end is because i'm a geek and more Mhz means....well, a bigger penis i guess...
Anyway....AMD K6-2/400 with a Voodoo3 3500 and 128Meg of ram plays Counter-Strike just fine...and, in the end, isn't that really all that matters?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
true. but these are very subtle differences in the grand scheme of things, and they certainly don't go so far as to make US English and British English two different languages.
the US word for dog: dog
the BK word for dog: dog
the French word for dog: Chien
sure, we have different slang in the UK and the US. but you DO know what a condom is don't you? Unfortunately, my french wife doesn't and now i have 3 kids and a bad case of the clap.
j/k.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
heh. i think that would probably be why i said "hindi" - read my post again.
BTW - Dialect != Language. There are a signifigant number of english dialects, french dialects, spanish dialects, etc. However, the language is still the same.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
US English is a little too encompasing for your purposes i would think. Are you talking southern US English? Californian english? New England English, etc? And who's to say that "US English" and "British English" are really all that different?
In response to your post, I don't think chinese is going to become a global language for a couple of different reasons.
1)When you say Chinese - are you speaking of Mandarin or Cantonese (i would assume Mandarin)?
2)Before china unseats the US as THE super-power, it needs to go through the same time of issues as the old soviet union did. I honestly don't see a communist dictatorship moving into the big seat any time soon. Russia is a slightly different beast, and they were never really on par with the states....that was more of an assumption, as they sacrificed almost everything internally for things like sputnik and the nuclear arms race.
I think one of the main reasons that people say chinese is going to become the main language of the world because it's the most spoken language in the world currently. Remember where most chinese speakers live...in China. The language is way too concentrated currently. Additionally, by that rational, Hindi has a high likelihood of becoming the global language as well. I find that idea laughable.
Oh well, let's just pick a frickin' language and be done with it.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
To be perfectly honest, i think that we're only going to go so far without a global language. As sad as it is for some "other-continenters" to face, english is just slipping into that role. You can argue about how this came about, but it's probably going to continue that way untill the US is no longer the #1 power in the world.
The issue is also this, while the US does not hold a monopoly on goold old DARPA Net, it was the first. and it comes to an argument of "when in rome..." If the internet was created by the spanish and everyone started to adopt that, i'm sure the language of the internet would be Spanish. (This is not to say that the de facto language right now IS english, but for all intents and purposes, english is the beast that rules).
I guess it's just getting annoying that everyone keeps having an argument about why it's so bad that English is becoming the foremost global language. Personally, i'm getting sick of it. Let's just pick a fsckin' language, make sure everyone speaks it (i guess except for people in the south - i still can't figure out what language that is they're speaking), and be on our merry way. If it's english, great...a ton of us already know what one. If not....i'm not lazy, and i'm willing to learn.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
more laws.
;-)
however, i didn't see any mention of source. Which, technically wouldn't make BugTraq illegal for distributing source. this says a computer program, which by all rights is simply a compiled binary. Does a program compiled under Linux coun't as a program when stored on a windows box?
Additionally, even if source were to be made illegal, these beaurocrats have their thumbs so far up their asses that they would never stop to make mention of "working or unworking code!" If you want to submit plumberscrack.c on bugtraq. just make sure you forget a comma. Poof! you don't have working source anymore, and no one can accuse you of writing an illegal program cause A)It's source and B)It won't compile anyway.
Imagine it's like Haiku are now illegal. just make sure that A)You make sure the third line has 6 syllables, B)Tell the reader, if they want the haiku, to drop the last syllable.
A rose by any other name....
isn't illegal
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
heh. that means the PS1 emulation hardware is going to be worthless in, what, 2 days now?
fuck...right now i couldn't PAY a used game store to take my PSX off my hands.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
the question also becomes one of licensing. is sony just going to roll over and say "go for it boys and girls, you can just take half of our hardware gaming market"
although sony is purported to be allowing reverse engineering (am i correct here?) and they do, in point of fact, make the vast majority of their money off video game sales, not the console, this is still going to take a huge bite out of their wallet.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you know. in retrospect. i think i'm just afraid that those lusers will have more people at their funeral than i will.
thought for the day: when you die, your friends won't miss you. they'll miss who they were when they were with you.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you might have problems if it's as harsh as the security software we had on the macs at my old highschool....what was it called again???
oh yeah. FoolProof (TM).
you better be careful, shit like that takes a good 3 or 4 minutes to crack.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
lol - i wouldn't exactly compare lodo to 5-points. Although i wouldn't exactly compare 5-points to places like east St. Louis or South Chicago.
people go to larimer, market, and 16th street because they're social creatures. Me? I'm anti-social. i go to larimer to laugh at the guy with the two gigantic mustangs painted poorly on the side of his green GT. i go to laugh at the guys who deliberately mistune their hogs and ducatis so they break every noise ordinance in the fsckin' city when they peel out.
And like the other guy said. the women in 'fuck me' pants don't hurt either.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
lol - actually i said Larimer cause i think that would be the only place downtown out-of-staters might possibly have heard of.
Actually, i think the whole of downtown is sort of a yuppie-mart anymore.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
thanks slashdot. now i get to sit on my ass drinkin' a beer on Larimer thinkin' "Why the fuck didn't they tell me about this thing a month ago?!?!?"
news it's so timely, you won't be able to experience it for another fsckin' year!!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Take Vouchers -- I advocate vouchers because public schools don't work compared to private schools. I also think that poor people should have the same ability to put their kids in the school of their choice as rich people.
your concepts are absolutely whack. private schools are better for PRECISELY the reason that opening them up to all people (read: vouchers) would kill them. Public schools aren't failing because of some mythical malaise surrounding these institutions. And if you give everyone a voucher to go to a private school, guess what...you just turned it into a public school. Sure, there are subtle differences, but these are moot in the long run.
As far as your view on the role government should play in people's lives, you've got the same problem as every other democrat/republican i've ever met. You all want more laws, it's just a question of whether your state or the federal government gets to make 'em and enforce 'em. I say to republicans and democrats and libertarians and the green party, keep your fucking laws off me.
oh. and if you're view is so en-fucking-lightened than what's with this cute little jibe:
Democrats believe passionately that the government has a role in shaping and molding people into having the beliefs they think they should have.
umm...i had a pretty democratic upbringing. and although i hate democrats now about the same as republicans, i take issue with that statement. It's fucking anti-democrat propaganda. but, lest this thread continue, i will say, you have you views, i have mine and nothing i will ever say or do will make you change your mind.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
or....He's 12.
Any Democrats that agree with me here and hate this guy simply because he's a republican. Fuck you....you don't get it either.
--
The man is more important than the party. The Keg is Almost dry. Vote on who's going to go get more beer.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
pardon me for jumping in on this obviously partisan thread. but you guys, along with your democrat brethren are absolute morons.
the party is more important than the man
the man is more important than anything. when you start giving up your own beliefs for any group, you become a simple minded fool. The US was founded on the public for the good of the individual. not the other way around. It's pretty funny, though, for you to say that Bush or Gore would be okey-fucking-dokey in office just because of the fact that they'd sort of stick to an extremely loose set of standards set by other rich tax-raisers.
Oh well, at least Republicans are admitting that Bush is a fuckwit and that they're just voting republican because they believe that baby's shouldn't be slaughtered in the woom. but once you've been born, you're on your own fuck-o.
me? i'll be either voting Nader or writing in McCain. The two party system influences me about as much as race influences who my friends are.
BTW - assuming precedence, this post will be moderated up to 4.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i would never want to live in a world where i couldn't indiscriminately stick my dick in things.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network