seriously though, at least they only warn you rather than refusing to send it. But, on the other hand, i always thought the whole point of language was to get your point across with as much brevity and clarity as possible. A word like fuck, if used properly, can be very effective in expressing exhasperation or dismay (see the mp3;-)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
if their security checks are so routine, then why did this happen?
[root@solstice/root]# telnet westernunion.com 80
Trying 208.244.136.46...
Connected to westernunion.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
get/
HTTP/1.1 501 Not Supported
Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
Oh, I see now.
"Hmmm...i don't get it. the only IRC servers that will let me connect are those on undernet"
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I personally feel that these games (as with almost anything this old) should become public domain. We're talking about games that are virtually monuments in gaming circles....no...modern life.
Raise your hand if you haven't played Tetris or PacMan...ok - the bolivian in the back of the room can put his hand down now. - But in all seriousness. These games have become so popular over time, and have been so played - and recognized that, while there is still money to be made, Hasbro (or whomever at this point) should be benevolent enough to just let people do as they will. Will someone PLEASE follow ID's lead with Quake (yes kids - there were two made before Q3A) and just (basically) give it away. (Of course, this need not turn into a thread about the economics of Qcrack;-)
One other question...what kind of precidence does this set for a game like Arkanoid? I know there are litteraly hundreds of clones like Breakout and SuperBreakout on the market. I can't remember specifically which came first - but you get the gist.
Oh well, i suppose this is a sad day for owners of the TI-82
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
naw...true athiests like myself go about our business.
sometimes we like to point at believers and laugh.
Not nearly so harmful as what *NOT* believing in God got you centuries ago.
BTW - the idea of god is the world's most perfect theory - it can never be disproven, only proven. You can't say to me "God doesn't exist, here's proof." The very concept of god can change and bend to make sure that any argument you create to discredit believers who would try to discredit you is inherently false, because: A) The lord works in mysterious ways. and B)God is omnipotent. (fuckin' beautiful) I don't admire or believe in god...but i really wanna meet the fucker who thought him up.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you have to install a patch to your current kernel.
am i the only one that's a little nervous about installing a kernel update from a third party vendor (who's software i'm only trying to EVALUATE)
and so i go back to my nightly prayers..."Yeah, though i walk through the valey of the shadow of death, i fear no company from redmond, for i knoweth Sierra will developeth linux clients for upcoming games" cough *Counter-Strike* cough. (wine just ain't cuttin' it.)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
heh. and yet you get irritated at my same knee jerk reaction to someone even asking whether or not a new kernel is news (of course it is).
Unfortunately, i didn't make myself as clear as i should have. No, a new kernel is not the same thing as a full OS upgrade (Anyone who knows about the whole RMS GNU/Linux debacle realizes this)...however, it is a signifigant change for the community, whether the newer kernel offers signifigant increases in performance gains or new features, or just boils down to a "penis envy" competition. "Hey, i've got 2.2.17!"
However, considering that slashdot's track record has shown that it is much more closely aligned with the open-source community, and would seem to advocate *nix over windows (in general) would certainly make this kernel release a highly newsworthy story.
No, a new kernel and a SP are not the same, but they are closer than i originally noted.
and M$ still makes shitty products;-)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
well - a service pack isn't really the equivalent of a kernel update. In it's essence, a kernel upgrade is basically a new version of linux coming out. Being that you hear about it on slashdot whenever a new version of windows comes out - then this kernel release *does* qualify as news
No, It's not linus's fault that Microsoft makes shitty products and only releases them every few years.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
well...this is a little bit more of a grey area when you think that - the people who get caught doing this shit, are, in all honesty, some of the best in the world.
can you honestly say that phiber optik is just a script kiddie out for giggles with someone else's code? hell no. The other consideration is, is what crackers do enough to warrant them the time and the infamy they get?
besides - who better to pay to break into a network than someone who has already shown they have vast amounts of experience with it. And that they won't puss out because they think their tactics are too "shady." - You might call these guys a liability. I would call them an asset.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
at least we know weed isn't a performance enhancing drug.
the whole olympics deal is just commercial schlock. Perhaps once it was about sports and sheer athleticism, but it hasn't been for a long time. Oh well, a sign of the times i think, as i sip from my gatorade thirst quencher with my michael jordan nike's on, and a big fucking swoosh on my chest. - oh well. at least i still have my black adidas warm-up pants.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I like this little ditty in regards to the 2600 ruling:
The judge made the following analogy: "It is analogous to the publication of a bank vault combination in a national
newspaper. Even if no one uses the combination to open the vault, its mere publication has the effect of defeating
the bank's security system, forcing the bank to reprogram the lock."
Actually. I thought it was more like - hey, we made a car...but you have to use our gas to drive the sum'bitch!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
English is going to become the dominant language, as it is right now for several very simple reasons.
A)Right now the U.S. is basically the controller of the internet. If the US were to drop off the face of the earth, it would be one hell of a long time before the rest of the world got back to the point where they are today. This may irritate some people, but it's factual. Being that the U.S. basically controls the internet (or at least a very great majority of it's connectivity) - its people get to speak with a pretty loud voice when decisions are made.
B)Newcomers to the game have to play by the rules that have already been established. Perhaps because of ethocentrism, or just plain stubbornness, i don't see anyone in the near future getting up and shouting "hey, why don't we create a standard language for the web - let's make it Mandarin, or how about Spanish."
Yes, there are, and always will be, culturally specific domains out there. I have no beef with this. But to hypothesize that the internet is going to go in direction x just because there are more people in china is ludicrous. If we follow that logic, then China should be the internet leader, the wealthiest country on the face of the earth, and all web sites would be made in either Mandarin or Cantonese.
Actually, if the world (not just the internet) doesn't eventually evolve into a singular language use...it's pretty obvious that things will continue just as they have for centuries: billions of people speaking hundreds of different languages.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you know...we should take your inferrence just one step further and kill all butterflies.
why?
well, we all know about chaos theory, and the "butterfly" effect. So, suppose a butterfly in Zimbabwe gets riled up and starts flapping it's wings. It runs into an elephants nose accidentally, which causes the elephant to go berzerk, thusly causing a stampede of elephants. This, in turn, causes a stampede of enormous magnitude over the african plains, creating a gust of wind that, by the time it reaches the US coast, is a full blown storm. Many computer related industry workers take the day off...and this storm, in some very small way, affects the thinking paterns of IBM's manufacturing plant work-force.
Over the next several weeks, the plant makes poorly built hard drives (which probably wouldn't have happened if not for the storm). Eventually these hard drives fail, and we're back to where your point comes in. failure, medicare, etc. etc.
So you see, in my opinion....fuck the butterflies. Those bastards deserve to die!!
btw - the money that melissa or ILOVEYOU cost companies wasn't taken directly out of workers' insurance payments...it was taken out of profit. And being that about 50% of companies that were affected by these virii were.com's - the only real cash that was lost was venture capital.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i'm sorry...but i really can't take that hypothetical too seriously. When you get into hypotheticals, you might as well just throw reality out the window, because you can come up with anything you want.
In you situation, however, no. Ford would not be held liable. No car could go 18 years without someone discovering a "bug" like an exploding dashboard. So...6months after the Escort is released in 1982...someone's dashboard explodes. Ford hears about this, and initiates a mandatory recall of their 1982 model Escorts. 99% of all Fords are fixed.
18 years later...you get fucked up by a car that wasn't fixed. You have no right to sue Ford. They initiated the recall - people were aware of the exploding dashboard...if they didn't get it fixed, it's not Ford's problem.
Maybe your argument will hold a little more water when a Coppermine explodes, taking out some poor schmuck's left nut.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
It's understandable that lawmakers want to make OEM's more responsible for their products, but i'm not so sure that this is exactly the way to go about doing it.
One of the biggest considerations one would have to take into effect in something like this is the durability that a product has to have based on the average lifespan of a computer. Following the car to Computer metaphor, the average computer that was built two years ago could basically be compared to a 1982 Ford Escort. - Sure, it should still run...but there's no way the Ford should be held liable for a product that is, for all practical purposes, obsolete.
Should we hold OEM's accountable for faulty products? Yes. But let's take into account product lifespan in general. Not how long the product can run...but how long it should run.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you don't seriously mean to suggest that the US might be spying on it's neighbors do you?
i'm not surprised the US is doing it...i'm surprised they appear to have gotten caught. Remember, in political circles...spying is just considered a cost of friendship. We're spying on all our allies, and they're all spying on us.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I'm really REALLY dissapointed in the big business these days. Before, at least big business had the balls to play by the rules. Sure, it's fucked that 2600 gets found guilty of even linking to DeCSS, but at least everyone was playing fair.
This is bogus, and it makes the open-source movement look like a bunch of criminals. While not libelous, i have to say that i am severely perturbed at their notion of economics.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Slashdot Mirror
what the fuck is up with this bullshit?
;-)
seriously though, at least they only warn you rather than refusing to send it. But, on the other hand, i always thought the whole point of language was to get your point across with as much brevity and clarity as possible. A word like fuck, if used properly, can be very effective in expressing exhasperation or dismay (see the mp3
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
somehow i think the site isn't really gonna get sold. Well either that or this guy is never gonna have to work again (check the bid).
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
if their security checks are so routine, then why did this happen?
/root]# telnet westernunion.com 80 /
[root@solstice
Trying 208.244.136.46...
Connected to westernunion.com. Escape character is '^]'.
get
HTTP/1.1 501 Not Supported
Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
Oh, I see now.
"Hmmm...i don't get it. the only IRC servers that will let me connect are those on undernet"
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I personally feel that these games (as with almost anything this old) should become public domain. We're talking about games that are virtually monuments in gaming circles....no...modern life.
;-)
Raise your hand if you haven't played Tetris or PacMan...ok - the bolivian in the back of the room can put his hand down now. - But in all seriousness. These games have become so popular over time, and have been so played - and recognized that, while there is still money to be made, Hasbro (or whomever at this point) should be benevolent enough to just let people do as they will. Will someone PLEASE follow ID's lead with Quake (yes kids - there were two made before Q3A) and just (basically) give it away. (Of course, this need not turn into a thread about the economics of Qcrack
One other question...what kind of precidence does this set for a game like Arkanoid? I know there are litteraly hundreds of clones like Breakout and SuperBreakout on the market. I can't remember specifically which came first - but you get the gist.
Oh well, i suppose this is a sad day for owners of the TI-82
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
naw...true athiests like myself go about our business.
sometimes we like to point at believers and laugh.
Not nearly so harmful as what *NOT* believing in God got you centuries ago.
BTW - the idea of god is the world's most perfect theory - it can never be disproven, only proven. You can't say to me "God doesn't exist, here's proof." The very concept of god can change and bend to make sure that any argument you create to discredit believers who would try to discredit you is inherently false, because: A) The lord works in mysterious ways. and B)God is omnipotent. (fuckin' beautiful) I don't admire or believe in god...but i really wanna meet the fucker who thought him up.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
actually - i think miracles are proprietary.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you're not in the security field are you...
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you have to install a patch to your current kernel.
am i the only one that's a little nervous about installing a kernel update from a third party vendor (who's software i'm only trying to EVALUATE)
and so i go back to my nightly prayers..."Yeah, though i walk through the valey of the shadow of death, i fear no company from redmond, for i knoweth Sierra will developeth linux clients for upcoming games" cough *Counter-Strike* cough. (wine just ain't cuttin' it.)
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
heh. and yet you get irritated at my same knee jerk reaction to someone even asking whether or not a new kernel is news (of course it is).
;-)
Unfortunately, i didn't make myself as clear as i should have. No, a new kernel is not the same thing as a full OS upgrade (Anyone who knows about the whole RMS GNU/Linux debacle realizes this)...however, it is a signifigant change for the community, whether the newer kernel offers signifigant increases in performance gains or new features, or just boils down to a "penis envy" competition. "Hey, i've got 2.2.17!"
However, considering that slashdot's track record has shown that it is much more closely aligned with the open-source community, and would seem to advocate *nix over windows (in general) would certainly make this kernel release a highly newsworthy story.
No, a new kernel and a SP are not the same, but they are closer than i originally noted.
and M$ still makes shitty products
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
well - a service pack isn't really the equivalent of a kernel update. In it's essence, a kernel upgrade is basically a new version of linux coming out. Being that you hear about it on slashdot whenever a new version of windows comes out - then this kernel release *does* qualify as news
No, It's not linus's fault that Microsoft makes shitty products and only releases them every few years.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
s/felony/misdemeanor/
the terms aren't fuct. the laws are.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
well...this is a little bit more of a grey area when you think that - the people who get caught doing this shit, are, in all honesty, some of the best in the world.
can you honestly say that phiber optik is just a script kiddie out for giggles with someone else's code? hell no. The other consideration is, is what crackers do enough to warrant them the time and the infamy they get?
besides - who better to pay to break into a network than someone who has already shown they have vast amounts of experience with it. And that they won't puss out because they think their tactics are too "shady." - You might call these guys a liability. I would call them an asset.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
at least we know weed isn't a performance enhancing drug.
the whole olympics deal is just commercial schlock. Perhaps once it was about sports and sheer athleticism, but it hasn't been for a long time. Oh well, a sign of the times i think, as i sip from my gatorade thirst quencher with my michael jordan nike's on, and a big fucking swoosh on my chest. - oh well. at least i still have my black adidas warm-up pants.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
the implied reference was towards JOA's role in the hundred years war. ;-)
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
This novel sounds to me to be a little too much of a re-write of the life and times of Joan Of Arc, whimsically mixed in with a little fantasy.
hmmm....a woman that leads an army around. she hears voices...and it all takes place during the time of the hundred years war...
a major revision and modernisation of the "Lost History of Burgundy."
who else do we know who fought for france's control of burgundy? anyone? anyone?
it would be wise to point out, additionally, that Joan of Arc was clearly Scyzophrenic
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Nature creates life. Biologists figure out how life works, and how to reproduce it.
Isn't science in violation of the DMCA?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
yeah...i know. but slashdot appeared to have been "slashdotted" when i went to preview my post.
oh well...i'll probably get modded to hell cause the moderators thought all i did was ^C ^V from the article.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I like this little ditty in regards to the 2600 ruling:
The judge made the following analogy: "It is analogous to the publication of a bank vault combination in a national newspaper. Even if no one uses the combination to open the vault, its mere publication has the effect of defeating the bank's security system, forcing the bank to reprogram the lock."
Actually. I thought it was more like - hey, we made a car...but you have to use our gas to drive the sum'bitch!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i was never one for syntax. but you get the gist.
where did i screw up? it's been 4 years since i last spoke the language.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
English is going to become the dominant language, as it is right now for several very simple reasons.
A)Right now the U.S. is basically the controller of the internet. If the US were to drop off the face of the earth, it would be one hell of a long time before the rest of the world got back to the point where they are today. This may irritate some people, but it's factual. Being that the U.S. basically controls the internet (or at least a very great majority of it's connectivity) - its people get to speak with a pretty loud voice when decisions are made.
B)Newcomers to the game have to play by the rules that have already been established. Perhaps because of ethocentrism, or just plain stubbornness, i don't see anyone in the near future getting up and shouting "hey, why don't we create a standard language for the web - let's make it Mandarin, or how about Spanish."
Yes, there are, and always will be, culturally specific domains out there. I have no beef with this. But to hypothesize that the internet is going to go in direction x just because there are more people in china is ludicrous. If we follow that logic, then China should be the internet leader, the wealthiest country on the face of the earth, and all web sites would be made in either Mandarin or Cantonese.
Actually, if the world (not just the internet) doesn't eventually evolve into a singular language use...it's pretty obvious that things will continue just as they have for centuries: billions of people speaking hundreds of different languages.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you know...we should take your inferrence just one step further and kill all butterflies.
.com's - the only real cash that was lost was venture capital.
why?
well, we all know about chaos theory, and the "butterfly" effect. So, suppose a butterfly in Zimbabwe gets riled up and starts flapping it's wings. It runs into an elephants nose accidentally, which causes the elephant to go berzerk, thusly causing a stampede of elephants. This, in turn, causes a stampede of enormous magnitude over the african plains, creating a gust of wind that, by the time it reaches the US coast, is a full blown storm. Many computer related industry workers take the day off...and this storm, in some very small way, affects the thinking paterns of IBM's manufacturing plant work-force.
Over the next several weeks, the plant makes poorly built hard drives (which probably wouldn't have happened if not for the storm). Eventually these hard drives fail, and we're back to where your point comes in. failure, medicare, etc. etc.
So you see, in my opinion....fuck the butterflies. Those bastards deserve to die!!
btw - the money that melissa or ILOVEYOU cost companies wasn't taken directly out of workers' insurance payments...it was taken out of profit. And being that about 50% of companies that were affected by these virii were
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i'm sorry...but i really can't take that hypothetical too seriously. When you get into hypotheticals, you might as well just throw reality out the window, because you can come up with anything you want.
In you situation, however, no. Ford would not be held liable. No car could go 18 years without someone discovering a "bug" like an exploding dashboard. So...6months after the Escort is released in 1982...someone's dashboard explodes. Ford hears about this, and initiates a mandatory recall of their 1982 model Escorts. 99% of all Fords are fixed.
18 years later...you get fucked up by a car that wasn't fixed. You have no right to sue Ford. They initiated the recall - people were aware of the exploding dashboard...if they didn't get it fixed, it's not Ford's problem.
Maybe your argument will hold a little more water when a Coppermine explodes, taking out some poor schmuck's left nut.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
It's understandable that lawmakers want to make OEM's more responsible for their products, but i'm not so sure that this is exactly the way to go about doing it.
One of the biggest considerations one would have to take into effect in something like this is the durability that a product has to have based on the average lifespan of a computer. Following the car to Computer metaphor, the average computer that was built two years ago could basically be compared to a 1982 Ford Escort. - Sure, it should still run...but there's no way the Ford should be held liable for a product that is, for all practical purposes, obsolete.
Should we hold OEM's accountable for faulty products? Yes. But let's take into account product lifespan in general. Not how long the product can run...but how long it should run.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you don't seriously mean to suggest that the US might be spying on it's neighbors do you?
i'm not surprised the US is doing it...i'm surprised they appear to have gotten caught. Remember, in political circles...spying is just considered a cost of friendship. We're spying on all our allies, and they're all spying on us.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I'm really REALLY dissapointed in the big business these days. Before, at least big business had the balls to play by the rules. Sure, it's fucked that 2600 gets found guilty of even linking to DeCSS, but at least everyone was playing fair.
This is bogus, and it makes the open-source movement look like a bunch of criminals. While not libelous, i have to say that i am severely perturbed at their notion of economics.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network