But please don't castigate someone because he can't support -every- worthwhile cause out there, I doubt if you can either.
I expressed my disdain for the other parent not because he did not support a worthwhile cause, but because of his reason for not supporting that cause (i.e. that it did not affect him).
Also, in response to this:
Therefore, perhaps those few -would- be better served pooling their resources in an area where there is not already a massive public outpouring of support?
The damage caused by the quake will likely total into the billions if not hundreds of billions. Drudge is already reporting the dead at over 400,000 (and he's yet to be incorrect so far). I have no doubt that the final toll of this disaster will likely be over one million people, most of whom will die due to disease and famine.
I suppose what I'm trying to get at here in reference to where people should donate their money right now is this: What use are free mp3's to the dead?
Therefor[e], he's screwing people to help himself and complaining about nearly the same thing
Eh? How's he screwing people? He's asking them to sign up under him. They don't have to pay any money, nor put forth much effort. So what if they don't get an ipod. What have they lost? Your parallel is weak at best.
Sorry, the tsunami didn't effect me and maybe I'm just a cold, calloused bastard, but I'm not giving any of my meager savings to any relief fund for it.
Yeah, actually, that kind of does make you a cold, calloused bastard to say that you're not giving any money because "it doesn't affect you." That's not particularly the point here. The reason you give money is because people stick together and help eachother through tough times. God forbid your part of the world should experience an epic disaster and no one helps out because, as you say, it doesn't affect them.
I'm an 18 year old college student and it's hard enough for me to figure out where my next meal is coming from
Ok. this is just borderline retarded. There's a huge difference between not being able to afford anything but ramen by choice and not being able to get anything to eat because, if you dig for food lying around, you might die from it.
Kids these days have no respect for the older stuff. Why, I remember when my grandpa showed me this black and white TV. I remember thinking: This TV is awesome! Why on earth did I buy a 34" Sony DLP Hi-Def set when I could have a classic like this 1965 Zenith with tuner knob!
If you've ever tried to cancel an AOL subscription, you've probably noticed that their employees are likely fired if they cancel a single subscription.
How the hell do I get moderated -1:Troll, yet you come out with that particular gem and are modded "insightful."
I used to work for AOL and had several personal accounts quite some time ago. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
I joined for the free ipod deal. I don't see what all the fuss is about. The "affiliates" you have to sign up with are reputable companies that aren't going to start charging your credit card on a whim (e.g. AOL, Infone, Ebay, etc). And yes, you'll get a ton of spam on your email address...isn't that was throwaway accounts on yahoo or gmail are for? Is it a pyramid scheme? Of course it is. Gratis wouldn't be making any money if everyone got a free ipod just for signing up and doing nothing. Is it a scam? Absolutely not. I have several friends that have already gotten their ipods.
I haven't gotten my ipod yet, but I'm not particularly nervous about the prospect of whether or not I get one. I haven't spent any money, and my two main email accounts for friends and associates are perfectly free of Gratis spam.
Since this version is only a few days old, they are just accumulating lists of workarounds, and most are being fixed fairly soon after reporting, so this info goes in the forums
I appreciate your sarcasm. As for the above quote, we're talking about a situation where the library is not listed in the requirements, yet the software will immediately error out if run without it.
Of course I later googled the dll and installed it since I was curious about the software. But throwing out a package lacking a fundamental library isn't just a bug, it's plain sloppy.
Here in Denver, 41F here is jeans and (borderline) sweatshirt weather.
But I suppose it's all relative. A friend went with their family down to Disney World in winter. I guess it was like 60, so naturally the family was in shorts and t-shirts. A couple walked up to their parents and said something to the effect of, "You know...they have programs if you can't afford to get your kids good winter coats."
Wool socks and long johns are for fresh powder on the "dark" side of the mountain;-)
considering I've at the same ATTWS number for several years now. The vast majority of messages I get on my cell-phone are spam. Now compare this with the highly effective spam filtering I get from running razor and SpamAssassin and email beats the pants off my phone as far as messaging goes.
I'll grant you, the ogo would be a pretty nifty tool to have, but I can't justify spending an extra $13 a month just for remote IM and email from a select few ISP's.
*sigh* Yes, with physical items. The problem is that software does make it different. Why you fail to understand that, I really can't say.
I think it is you that fails to understand that simply because something is easier does not mean it is inherently different. The only thing that has really changed is that the doctrine of Fair Use has been slowly eroded by copyright holders and their lobbyists (e.g. the DMCA or the new timeshifting bill).
Sure, you can argue that copyright infringement has become more prevalent over the course of the past 50 years. But one can also argue that this is balanced out by the mass creation of content afforded by these same technologies. Additionally, newer content distribution media do not exist for the sole purpose of piracy - but rather have scaled with both legal and illegal industries. Yes, infringement has exploded. However, so has invention. In this regard, I think you fail to account for the fact that piracy does not exist in a vacuum.
As I said to sibling, I really don't know what you're talking about. I paid $50 for a game. $50 is the market rate for a game these days, and the product has worked flawlessly. I fail to see where I've been 'fucked'.
No you didn't pay $50 for a game. 10 years ago you would have payed $50 for a game. Today, you paid $50 for a "license" to play a game. If Valve at any point decides they no longer want you to play said game then you have nothing. This is the important point: Your ability to play Half-Life 2 exists solely at the discretion of Valve Studios even after you have paid them $50 for a "copy".
Your argument still doesn't hold up. Stop assuming that because we're talking about software the rules somehow change. We've been dealing with piracy and fair-use issues in this country for two-hundred years. The only difference is that now the software, music, and movie industries are becoming more effective at convincing you that they're somehow doing you a favor by fucking you.
"Sure - it shoves a rod up your ass, but it sure beats dealing with Vivendi."
In this instance I'm sick of people picking sides, as if they had to absolve either Vivendi or Valve of all wrongdoing. I'm sorry, but both companies are buttholes for playing this middle-man game that in the end only winds up screwing the consumer. Buy from Vivendi: Valve gets less cash and you have to unlock the CD. Buy from Valve: they screw the giant Vivendi but you have to download over a gig of data and the servers are inundated. Moreover you don't actually own anything.
Both companies are trying to screw eachother at the expense of the consumer, pure and simple.
Oh, and as for...
By the way, people preloading HL2 didn't have a problem playing it, only those who bought retail (Vivendi's domain) requiring activation.
I think my credit card is going to be double-charged because of Steam's screwed up billing system which errored out on the first try but still appears to have charged my card. It also took over 30 minutes from the time I started unlocking the game to the time I finally got to play it.
It's an amazing piece of software that is certain to win game of the year. But that doesn't mean Valve couldn't have done way better with Steam.
If they are breaking the law, why are you advocating 'underground' fighting methods. Get them prosecuted.
A class-action lawsuit is a civil procedure. One that is being taken by the employees of EA. Currently they're in the process of certifying the class.
Why go to mob-rule tactics immediately?
What kind of mob rule tactics are you speaking of? Do you consider informed purchasing decisions and letters to C's "mob rule"?
Then the issue can be resolved, i.e. the laws can be repealed, or enforced. Why go to mob-rule tactics immediately?
Dicarding the use of the term "mob-rule", why can't both tacks be taken simultaneously? The agenda here is to force EA to change their labor practices. As far as I'm concerned, any action that expedites EA's return to those standards should be used.
If they are treating their employees poorly who cares?
Mmmmmm....libertarianism at it's best.
How about the fact that they are breaking the law by improperly classifying employees as exempt and therefore not paying them their due overtime? Is that acceptable to you?
How about the fact that this is getting so much press because in the free market - people also have free speech. No one's talking about burning down EA's headquarters - but we are talking about taking action. Boycotts, Letters to editors, Letters to company chiefs. It always pains me to see someone give the free market argument yet completely miss the free speech one.
You say if the company is treating their employees poorly that their employees should act. It appears that that's exactly what's happening.
Rumsfeld could be considered one of the founders of neoconservative doctrine. The man helped give birth to Cheney's political career and is also close friends with Paul Wolfowitz - both authors of the PNAC doctrine.
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Collage isnt everything. I learnt to make money without a batchelors', and I do'nt need a job at google.
I see you have a CS degree.
But please don't castigate someone because he can't support -every- worthwhile cause out there, I doubt if you can either.
I expressed my disdain for the other parent not because he did not support a worthwhile cause, but because of his reason for not supporting that cause (i.e. that it did not affect him).
Also, in response to this:
Therefore, perhaps those few -would- be better served pooling their resources in an area where there is not already a massive public outpouring of support?
The damage caused by the quake will likely total into the billions if not hundreds of billions. Drudge is already reporting the dead at over 400,000 (and he's yet to be incorrect so far). I have no doubt that the final toll of this disaster will likely be over one million people, most of whom will die due to disease and famine.
I suppose what I'm trying to get at here in reference to where people should donate their money right now is this: What use are free mp3's to the dead?
Your new project is to convince 20 million or so less-competent/aware people to use throw-away email addresses
It's not my problem if society has to slow down for the lowest common denominator.
Even if 5 out of 10 sign into the "program", you have just sold out addresses to "trusted partners" for the rest
Oh for the love of god. This is why you use a throw-away email address. Is it my fault you people don't know how to game the system?
Therefor[e], he's screwing people to help himself and complaining about nearly the same thing
Eh? How's he screwing people? He's asking them to sign up under him. They don't have to pay any money, nor put forth much effort. So what if they don't get an ipod. What have they lost? Your parallel is weak at best.
Sorry, the tsunami didn't effect me and maybe I'm just a cold, calloused bastard, but I'm not giving any of my meager savings to any relief fund for it.
Yeah, actually, that kind of does make you a cold, calloused bastard to say that you're not giving any money because "it doesn't affect you." That's not particularly the point here. The reason you give money is because people stick together and help eachother through tough times. God forbid your part of the world should experience an epic disaster and no one helps out because, as you say, it doesn't affect them.
I'm an 18 year old college student and it's hard enough for me to figure out where my next meal is coming from
Ok. this is just borderline retarded. There's a huge difference between not being able to afford anything but ramen by choice and not being able to get anything to eat because, if you dig for food lying around, you might die from it.
How is this ironic? The guy wants a free ipod. How is that even remotely related to his suggestion to donate to the disaster relief fund?
Personally, I think it's pretty lame to berate someone for suggesting everyone help out because of his sig.
Kids these days have no respect for the older stuff. Why, I remember when my grandpa showed me this black and white TV. I remember thinking: This TV is awesome! Why on earth did I buy a 34" Sony DLP Hi-Def set when I could have a classic like this 1965 Zenith with tuner knob!
You can keep it old-school if that's what you're into.
If you've ever tried to cancel an AOL subscription, you've probably noticed that their employees are likely fired if they cancel a single subscription.
How the hell do I get moderated -1:Troll, yet you come out with that particular gem and are modded "insightful."
I used to work for AOL and had several personal accounts quite some time ago. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
I joined for the free ipod deal. I don't see what all the fuss is about. The "affiliates" you have to sign up with are reputable companies that aren't going to start charging your credit card on a whim (e.g. AOL, Infone, Ebay, etc). And yes, you'll get a ton of spam on your email address...isn't that was throwaway accounts on yahoo or gmail are for? Is it a pyramid scheme? Of course it is. Gratis wouldn't be making any money if everyone got a free ipod just for signing up and doing nothing. Is it a scam? Absolutely not. I have several friends that have already gotten their ipods.
I haven't gotten my ipod yet, but I'm not particularly nervous about the prospect of whether or not I get one. I haven't spent any money, and my two main email accounts for friends and associates are perfectly free of Gratis spam.
What's the problem here?
Since this version is only a few days old, they are just accumulating lists of workarounds, and most are being fixed fairly soon after reporting, so this info goes in the forums
I appreciate your sarcasm. As for the above quote, we're talking about a situation where the library is not listed in the requirements, yet the software will immediately error out if run without it.
Of course I later googled the dll and installed it since I was curious about the software. But throwing out a package lacking a fundamental library isn't just a bug, it's plain sloppy.
Yeah, I eventually just googled the DLL and installed it.
Kind of annoying, however, that they'd package a binary without a runtime library it needed.
Downloaded. Installed. Launched. App complained about missing MSVCR70.DLL. Couldn't find any documentation on this problem.
Moved on.
"Michael Vick and the rest of the Atlanta Falcons"
Should read: "Michael Vick"
Oh, somehow I don't think we need worry about hockey being played in the U.S. ;-)
Are you kidding? You'd be broiling in that getup.
;-)
Here in Denver, 41F here is jeans and (borderline) sweatshirt weather.
But I suppose it's all relative. A friend went with their family down to Disney World in winter. I guess it was like 60, so naturally the family was in shorts and t-shirts. A couple walked up to their parents and said something to the effect of, "You know...they have programs if you can't afford to get your kids good winter coats."
Wool socks and long johns are for fresh powder on the "dark" side of the mountain
If by "rocked", you mean "sucked terribly."
considering I've at the same ATTWS number for several years now. The vast majority of messages I get on my cell-phone are spam. Now compare this with the highly effective spam filtering I get from running razor and SpamAssassin and email beats the pants off my phone as far as messaging goes.
I'll grant you, the ogo would be a pretty nifty tool to have, but I can't justify spending an extra $13 a month just for remote IM and email from a select few ISP's.
*sigh* Yes, with physical items. The problem is that software does make it different. Why you fail to understand that, I really can't say.
I think it is you that fails to understand that simply because something is easier does not mean it is inherently different. The only thing that has really changed is that the doctrine of Fair Use has been slowly eroded by copyright holders and their lobbyists (e.g. the DMCA or the new timeshifting bill).
Sure, you can argue that copyright infringement has become more prevalent over the course of the past 50 years. But one can also argue that this is balanced out by the mass creation of content afforded by these same technologies. Additionally, newer content distribution media do not exist for the sole purpose of piracy - but rather have scaled with both legal and illegal industries. Yes, infringement has exploded. However, so has invention. In this regard, I think you fail to account for the fact that piracy does not exist in a vacuum.
As I said to sibling, I really don't know what you're talking about. I paid $50 for a game. $50 is the market rate for a game these days, and the product has worked flawlessly. I fail to see where I've been 'fucked'.
No you didn't pay $50 for a game. 10 years ago you would have payed $50 for a game. Today, you paid $50 for a "license" to play a game. If Valve at any point decides they no longer want you to play said game then you have nothing. This is the important point: Your ability to play Half-Life 2 exists solely at the discretion of Valve Studios even after you have paid them $50 for a "copy".
Your argument still doesn't hold up. Stop assuming that because we're talking about software the rules somehow change. We've been dealing with piracy and fair-use issues in this country for two-hundred years. The only difference is that now the software, music, and movie industries are becoming more effective at convincing you that they're somehow doing you a favor by fucking you.
You get home and have to activate the peaches.
"Sure - it shoves a rod up your ass, but it sure beats dealing with Vivendi."
In this instance I'm sick of people picking sides, as if they had to absolve either Vivendi or Valve of all wrongdoing. I'm sorry, but both companies are buttholes for playing this middle-man game that in the end only winds up screwing the consumer. Buy from Vivendi: Valve gets less cash and you have to unlock the CD. Buy from Valve: they screw the giant Vivendi but you have to download over a gig of data and the servers are inundated. Moreover you don't actually own anything.
Both companies are trying to screw eachother at the expense of the consumer, pure and simple.
Oh, and as for...
By the way, people preloading HL2 didn't have a problem playing it, only those who bought retail (Vivendi's domain) requiring activation.
I think my credit card is going to be double-charged because of Steam's screwed up billing system which errored out on the first try but still appears to have charged my card. It also took over 30 minutes from the time I started unlocking the game to the time I finally got to play it.
It's an amazing piece of software that is certain to win game of the year. But that doesn't mean Valve couldn't have done way better with Steam.
If they are breaking the law, why are you advocating 'underground' fighting methods. Get them prosecuted.
A class-action lawsuit is a civil procedure. One that is being taken by the employees of EA. Currently they're in the process of certifying the class.
Why go to mob-rule tactics immediately?
What kind of mob rule tactics are you speaking of? Do you consider informed purchasing decisions and letters to C's "mob rule"?
Then the issue can be resolved, i.e. the laws can be repealed, or enforced. Why go to mob-rule tactics immediately?
Dicarding the use of the term "mob-rule", why can't both tacks be taken simultaneously? The agenda here is to force EA to change their labor practices. As far as I'm concerned, any action that expedites EA's return to those standards should be used.
If they are treating their employees poorly who cares?
Mmmmmm....libertarianism at it's best.
How about the fact that they are breaking the law by improperly classifying employees as exempt and therefore not paying them their due overtime? Is that acceptable to you?
How about the fact that this is getting so much press because in the free market - people also have free speech. No one's talking about burning down EA's headquarters - but we are talking about taking action. Boycotts, Letters to editors, Letters to company chiefs. It always pains me to see someone give the free market argument yet completely miss the free speech one.
You say if the company is treating their employees poorly that their employees should act. It appears that that's exactly what's happening.
I know nothing about motor mechanics; if my car develops a fault, I take it to a garage. Am I dumb now?
If you walk into the garage saying, "I have no idea what's going on. It won't go! I think maybe my lights need more fluid!"
Then yes. You paid $10,000 - $20,000 for a product and have no earthly idea how it works. That makes you dumb.
Rumsfeld could be considered one of the founders of neoconservative doctrine. The man helped give birth to Cheney's political career and is also close friends with Paul Wolfowitz - both authors of the PNAC doctrine.