So it's okay with you the actual selling of weapons to those kind of 3rd world dictators, provided they have "proudly made in USA" stamped on the side, and not "made in PRC" ?
'This isn't just about national security,' says Barbara Fast, vice president of Boeing Cyber Solutions. 'It's about the economic well-being of the United States.'
Of course. How is the CIA supposed to sell military tech to 3rd world despots and dictators, if the bastards keep stealing it for free ?
You managed to take time out from studying and doing assignments to watch the movie. Pity you just didn't go to the cinema and shell out the measly $5 like the rest of us.
If you are looking for sympathy, don't be so bloody blase about what you did. At least show some remorse. You sound like you consider this acceptable behaviour, and are only griping because you got caught this time.
And thank your lucky stars it was an informal e-mail to your network admin, and not one of the "pay us $5000 dollars and we'll leave you alone" kind.
I sincerely hope you were referring to the parent, and not me. I thought I'd raised some valid concerns, but apparently I'm just an "idiot" for questioning the wisdom of how things are done in the FOSS world.
And you're lying about four clicks. You still have to type apache.org, or "LAMP installer" into Google, navigate to a download page, download, verify, run the installer (which is likely more than four clicks of "next")...
Yes, okay okay, I had to go to a website first and download. Ubuntu fetches from a repository which may (or may not) have the latest version (OpenOffice for example). And if something is not in the repository, I'll be on the web anyway doing the exact same procedure even in Ubuntu.
I had the choice between one package that had 124 dependencies, And how, exactly, is this a problem? Just click "install" in the package manager, and the dependencies are handled.
It's a problem because I want to simply watch the output of my Video Card and perhaps record it. MythTV wanted to install everything and the kitchen sink just to do that. If you can't see why 124 dependencies is a bad thing, then there's no hope for you. Especially as if just 1 of those 124 breaks, you may be screwing up other applications on your system. These aren't simply just.dlls or extra support files included in the original installation package, they are complete installations of other applications just so MythTV can sit on top of them and utilize their functionality. MySQL Server just to store program listings ? The whole of the X-Windows system just to use some graphics capabilities? Come on.
(The above are off the top of my head, I may be mistaken about X-Windows. But the sheer fright of seeing massive applications and systems required for some simple functionality WAS scary nethertheless).
Maybe not quite there yet, but this is why distros are jumping on Pulseaudio. I'd expect the next release to have it right.
Yes, we've been hearing this for years... wait for the next release. And every release fixes something, and breaks something else. And then more source code hackery needed to get all your existing apps to work with this new Pulseaudio, right ? It's either ready now, or it isn't. You can't say "it's ready, but...".
Given you've had years to learn how to do all that on Windows, I think it's reasonable to expect it to be a bit more difficult on Ubuntu, no matter how good it gets.
Well no, it's NOT reasonable. Why should it be more difficult ? Surely with everyone (at least in the FOSS community) agreeing "Windows is an insecure unstable POS" (although personally I've never had any problems with 3.1 right up to 7), wouldn't you think that they'd make things on Ubuntu EASIER ? I keep hearing about the package manager and how easy it is to install stuff from the GUI, then every example you quoted dropped back to the command line.
I don't have a problem with the command line, I am old enough to remember twiddling with autoexec.bat, config.sys, himem and emm386 to get 586k out of my 640k free memory available. And I use it every day while SSHing into the work Linux boxes. But I'd like to think we've moved on in the last 20 years.
It's bad enough to make a geek cry (I did)... pity the poor granny or newb starting out.
Yes, my trials were on 8.10, and we're on what, 9.04 now ? Perhaps when we get to 11, I'll have another go. I've not given up on OSS completely but my point still holds. When I can do everything on Ubuntu that I can already do on Windows, I'll consider it "good enough".
Who in their right mind would run a database on a world accessible machine
Someone who perhaps wanted to remotely administer the DB ?
The IP control on MySQL is so fine grained I have an account locked to my static IP only with separate login and password. I can restart it and do maintenance sat in my own comfy chair.
Hardly "world accessible", but never mind. You keep calling up your server host and paying $150 bucks service fee every time you want a restart of the MySQL daemon.
You hit the nail right on the head, at least from my personal experience. I have to administer and deploy web apps on LAMP stacks, but my devlopment is done in Windows XP. Why ?
Because I can install and run Apache, MySQL, Perl, PHP on WinXP with basically 4 double clicks. I can also play any game I want, watch flash video, use my TV Tuner card, and manage my office docs, spreadsheets, dbs etc.
Now rollback to January, where I wanted (genuinely) to try Ubuntu, to see if it was "getting there". After having to install twice (it wasn't even clever enough to warn me I hadn't set my primary partition as bootable), and getting accustomed to the repository, I started installing the software I thought I needed.
TV Tuner... my God, forget about it... I had the choice between one package that had 124 dependencies, and another one that would allow me to watch my Cable, but NOT record it. And if I wanted to watch Cable, no way could I use the audio device for anything else, as it was locked up.
Firefox was an easy install, but getting flash and java to work with it was a nightmare. OpenOffice was an easy install, but was so slow as to be unusable.
In fact the only thing I think I was impressed with was the hardware, network and connectivity stuff, which was all autodetected, and it connected to my DSL a hell of a lot faster than Windows.
So, yes, Ubuntu is getting better... but it's still not there yet. When I can do everything on Ubuntu that I can *already* do on Windows, it'll be ready.
And for the record, after that January experience, I installed Vista, and it's not given me a problem. Even the UAC prompts are not half as annoying as some of the FUD on here would have you believe.
After factoring in the cost of compressing and cooling a big long cable... In other words, not any time soon
Well considering the current "system loss" (generation and transmission losses) is between 25 and 30%, all a superconductor would have to do is consume *less* than that percentage to be more efficient.
Now we've heard a lot about superconductors, but what if there is a potential for super-insulators, i.e. materials with the property not to conduct *any* electrons, EM radiation or heat in any form.
Cool your superconductor to the required temperature, compress it to the required level, then constrain it within a super-insulator. Problem solved.
Yes, yes, very simplistic I know, but then considering the tech leaps we've made in even 50 years, not outside the realms of possibility ?
What makes me laugh is that the Mac fanbois are so determined to never hear a bad word about their chosen God^H^H^HOperating System, that they immediately turn the whole discussion thread on it's head and say "well MS invented ActiveX, and it's the suckzorz".
I don't remember MS *ever* touting ActiveX as "secure", and in fact a lot of people were saying it was a terrible idea from day-1. Yes, it sucked - but, so does JAVA.
However, one of JAVA's great selling points was "it's secure because it runs in a sandbox". And over the years we've discovered the sandbox has not one, but several big fucking holes in the bottom.
And now, because every other vendor has patched, and OSX is waiting presumably to fleece their users for another $150 with the next version before patching, the fanbois with the "most secure OS", suddenly find themselves getting pwned.
And of course "we don't need antiviruses, because we run Macs".
Wake up call, perhaps ? Or can you still not see the wood for the (shiny) trees ?
(Expecting to get modded into oblivion with this one, but what the hell, my karma can handle it).
Yes, but there is something inherently wrong with worrying about "efficiency", when formerly the heat would have been simply wasted and dispersed into the atmosphere.
*Any* system that takes waste heat and converts it, via Stirling Engine or whatever, to a useful form again is efficient... at least *more* efficient than simply wasting it.
Ah yes, "self defense". So your not going to ever kill someone with the gun, you're just going to bash them senseless with the butt right ?
Or maybe it's just to scare people, a deterrent if you like ? In which case buy a fucking replica and have done with it. You don't NEED an implement that kills unless you are actually prepared to kill with it.
Self contained would imply no radiation / conduction / convection of the waste heat generated by the CPU. So where does it go brainiac ?
Of course it's NOT self-contained. One way or another the heat has to be transferred out of the system. Now maybe you could use a Stirling Engine or whatever to efficiently convert the heat back into another form... or better still, into hot coffee.
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So it's okay with you the actual selling of weapons to those kind of 3rd world dictators, provided they have "proudly made in USA" stamped on the side, and not "made in PRC" ?
Scary, but for some reason, not surprising.
'This isn't just about national security,' says Barbara Fast, vice president of Boeing Cyber Solutions. 'It's about the economic well-being of the United States.'
Of course. How is the CIA supposed to sell military tech to 3rd world despots and dictators, if the bastards keep stealing it for free ?
Or perhaps we are part of the other 95% of the world that aren't American ?
Whole Sort of General Mish Mash. Now give me my 42 points, or better still, a PGGB.
No, YOU'RE a towel !
It's been 1 minute since you last successfully posted a comment. Chances are your neurons fire more than once every 60 seconds.
Yes, well they do have a tendency to either turn up 3 years too late, or worse overstay their welcome by 7 years.
Dude, you need to get a girl-friend!
I could, but my wife wouldn't like it.
But the seven-assed Galapagos turtle is still giving them problems.
3 ... 2 ... 1 .... for the M$ WINE Poisoning Conspiracy Theories.
Who killed WINE ? It was Steve Ballmer, in Seattle, with the poison ... or possibly with a chair.
At first I read this and saw "paint" remover ... although with a few minutes cogitation, I think yours is probably more accurate.
You managed to take time out from studying and doing assignments to watch the movie. Pity you just didn't go to the cinema and shell out the measly $5 like the rest of us.
If you are looking for sympathy, don't be so bloody blase about what you did. At least show some remorse. You sound like you consider this acceptable behaviour, and are only griping because you got caught this time.
And thank your lucky stars it was an informal e-mail to your network admin, and not one of the "pay us $5000 dollars and we'll leave you alone" kind.
Absolutely no sympathy for you, sorry.
I sincerely hope you were referring to the parent, and not me. I thought I'd raised some valid concerns, but apparently I'm just an "idiot" for questioning the wisdom of how things are done in the FOSS world.
I'll just pick up on a couple of points here.
And you're lying about four clicks. You still have to type apache.org, or "LAMP installer" into Google, navigate to a download page, download, verify, run the installer (which is likely more than four clicks of "next")...
Yes, okay okay, I had to go to a website first and download. Ubuntu fetches from a repository which may (or may not) have the latest version (OpenOffice for example). And if something is not in the repository, I'll be on the web anyway doing the exact same procedure even in Ubuntu.
I had the choice between one package that had 124 dependencies,
And how, exactly, is this a problem? Just click "install" in the package manager, and the dependencies are handled.
It's a problem because I want to simply watch the output of my Video Card and perhaps record it. MythTV wanted to install everything and the kitchen sink just to do that. If you can't see why 124 dependencies is a bad thing, then there's no hope for you. Especially as if just 1 of those 124 breaks, you may be screwing up other applications on your system. These aren't simply just .dlls or extra support files included in the original installation package, they are complete installations of other applications just so MythTV can sit on top of them and utilize their functionality. MySQL Server just to store program listings ? The whole of the X-Windows system just to use some graphics capabilities? Come on.
(The above are off the top of my head, I may be mistaken about X-Windows. But the sheer fright of seeing massive applications and systems required for some simple functionality WAS scary nethertheless).
Maybe not quite there yet, but this is why distros are jumping on Pulseaudio. I'd expect the next release to have it right.
Yes, we've been hearing this for years ... wait for the next release. And every release fixes something, and breaks something else. And then more source code hackery needed to get all your existing apps to work with this new Pulseaudio, right ? It's either ready now, or it isn't. You can't say "it's ready, but ...".
Given you've had years to learn how to do all that on Windows, I think it's reasonable to expect it to be a bit more difficult on Ubuntu, no matter how good it gets.
Well no, it's NOT reasonable. Why should it be more difficult ? Surely with everyone (at least in the FOSS community) agreeing "Windows is an insecure unstable POS" (although personally I've never had any problems with 3.1 right up to 7), wouldn't you think that they'd make things on Ubuntu EASIER ? I keep hearing about the package manager and how easy it is to install stuff from the GUI, then every example you quoted dropped back to the command line.
I don't have a problem with the command line, I am old enough to remember twiddling with autoexec.bat, config.sys, himem and emm386 to get 586k out of my 640k free memory available. And I use it every day while SSHing into the work Linux boxes. But I'd like to think we've moved on in the last 20 years.
It's bad enough to make a geek cry (I did) ... pity the poor granny or newb starting out.
Yes, my trials were on 8.10, and we're on what, 9.04 now ? Perhaps when we get to 11, I'll have another go. I've not given up on OSS completely but my point still holds. When I can do everything on Ubuntu that I can already do on Windows, I'll consider it "good enough".
Who in their right mind would run a database on a world accessible machine
Someone who perhaps wanted to remotely administer the DB ?
The IP control on MySQL is so fine grained I have an account locked to my static IP only with separate login and password. I can restart it and do maintenance sat in my own comfy chair.
Hardly "world accessible", but never mind. You keep calling up your server host and paying $150 bucks service fee every time you want a restart of the MySQL daemon.
Mod parent up !
You hit the nail right on the head, at least from my personal experience. I have to administer and deploy web apps on LAMP stacks, but my devlopment is done in Windows XP. Why ?
Because I can install and run Apache, MySQL, Perl, PHP on WinXP with basically 4 double clicks. I can also play any game I want, watch flash video, use my TV Tuner card, and manage my office docs, spreadsheets, dbs etc.
Now rollback to January, where I wanted (genuinely) to try Ubuntu, to see if it was "getting there". After having to install twice (it wasn't even clever enough to warn me I hadn't set my primary partition as bootable), and getting accustomed to the repository, I started installing the software I thought I needed.
TV Tuner ... my God, forget about it ... I had the choice between one package that had 124 dependencies, and another one that would allow me to watch my Cable, but NOT record it. And if I wanted to watch Cable, no way could I use the audio device for anything else, as it was locked up.
Firefox was an easy install, but getting flash and java to work with it was a nightmare. OpenOffice was an easy install, but was so slow as to be unusable.
In fact the only thing I think I was impressed with was the hardware, network and connectivity stuff, which was all autodetected, and it connected to my DSL a hell of a lot faster than Windows.
So, yes, Ubuntu is getting better ... but it's still not there yet. When I can do everything on Ubuntu that I can *already* do on Windows, it'll be ready.
And for the record, after that January experience, I installed Vista, and it's not given me a problem. Even the UAC prompts are not half as annoying as some of the FUD on here would have you believe.
The homegrown star (singular) has been sat on the bench since 2003
It just you, Sergeant Detritus.
After factoring in the cost of compressing and cooling a big long cable... In other words, not any time soon
Well considering the current "system loss" (generation and transmission losses) is between 25 and 30%, all a superconductor would have to do is consume *less* than that percentage to be more efficient.
Now we've heard a lot about superconductors, but what if there is a potential for super-insulators, i.e. materials with the property not to conduct *any* electrons, EM radiation or heat in any form.
Cool your superconductor to the required temperature, compress it to the required level, then constrain it within a super-insulator. Problem solved.
Yes, yes, very simplistic I know, but then considering the tech leaps we've made in even 50 years, not outside the realms of possibility ?
I was about to say "this will get Slashdotted in 3 ... 2 ...", but it is already.
The chance to glimpse even some heat signature booty was obviously too tempting for all the basement catz.
What makes me laugh is that the Mac fanbois are so determined to never hear a bad word about their chosen God^H^H^HOperating System, that they immediately turn the whole discussion thread on it's head and say "well MS invented ActiveX, and it's the suckzorz".
I don't remember MS *ever* touting ActiveX as "secure", and in fact a lot of people were saying it was a terrible idea from day-1. Yes, it sucked - but, so does JAVA.
However, one of JAVA's great selling points was "it's secure because it runs in a sandbox". And over the years we've discovered the sandbox has not one, but several big fucking holes in the bottom.
And now, because every other vendor has patched, and OSX is waiting presumably to fleece their users for another $150 with the next version before patching, the fanbois with the "most secure OS", suddenly find themselves getting pwned.
And of course "we don't need antiviruses, because we run Macs".
Wake up call, perhaps ? Or can you still not see the wood for the (shiny) trees ?
(Expecting to get modded into oblivion with this one, but what the hell, my karma can handle it).
Yes, but there is something inherently wrong with worrying about "efficiency", when formerly the heat would have been simply wasted and dispersed into the atmosphere.
*Any* system that takes waste heat and converts it, via Stirling Engine or whatever, to a useful form again is efficient ... at least *more* efficient than simply wasting it.
Usually recognized in the context of "Apple = Too Expensive".
Yes, it's FAR better leaving the machine switched on for 9 months, then on reboot, having to wait 7 hours for the filesystem to repair itself.
Go fsck yourself
Ah yes, "self defense". So your not going to ever kill someone with the gun, you're just going to bash them senseless with the butt right ?
Or maybe it's just to scare people, a deterrent if you like ? In which case buy a fucking replica and have done with it. You don't NEED an implement that kills unless you are actually prepared to kill with it.
Self contained would imply no radiation / conduction / convection of the waste heat generated by the CPU. So where does it go brainiac ?
Of course it's NOT self-contained. One way or another the heat has to be transferred out of the system. Now maybe you could use a Stirling Engine or whatever to efficiently convert the heat back into another form ... or better still, into hot coffee.