> Am I missing something? If not, these guys are tards and making a big deal out of nothing. Even more because this publicity probably burnt all their remaining bridges.:-)
I have mine for only a week so I may have missed sometihng, but I definitely haven't noticed anything "Debianish" on the phone. Non-GNU libc, very odd userland (it's not GNU nor busybox), etc...
Also, don't forget to set the kernel flag that enables the leap-second code. It's quite likely that this was the cause, and the kernel won't know by itself that it should insert one. See adjtimex(2) for more information.
It's definitely possible that some program couldn't cope with time jumping back. Actually, it may be just as easy to just test this by manually stepping back in time.
Many customized router firmware images (think of OpenWRT and friends) support IPv6. I adapted mine to get that. It sets up a tunnel to SixXS and announces my IPv6/64 on my LAN. Everything just works.
Not sure if anything out of the box can do this yet, especially the tunneling part.
Possibly that page really *was* useful, but the domain name expired. Lots of spammers on the nets like to snatch expired domain names and "monetize" (sic) them.
What especially sickens me is that this "mister Icahn" dude wasn't even a Yahoo! shareholder at the time this whole soap started. As far as I know he bought a shitload of shares less than a month ago and apparently this means he can start messing with things that happened before he got involved.
Maybe this really is how this whole "public company" thing works, but IMHO it's retarded.
What confuses me more is that, AFAIK, FireFox and every other browser already asks "would you like me to be your default?" every time you start them. So what's the difference here?
Note that this doesn't apply to all Windows versions. Ask me to do something in a plain Windows XP install (not a sanitized one) and I'll get lost completely since I haven't touched anything after Win2K. I'd probably do even worse with Vista, which I really haven't touched *ever*.
I wrote a tool to create and take tests from students at my high school something like twelve years ago. At least two years ago I think they were still using it. Or they dropped it in favour of something shinier than has windows and stuff but no real added functionality besides a Price Tag [tm].;-)
Yeah, the difference engine's really cool, I also saw it there yesterday. AFAIK it's going to be there for a whole year, so for all interested people, take your time.:-)
The PDP-1 is only actually turned on for demos on the first and third Saturday of the month IIRC. So alas, not yesterday.
> Whoever wrote this story, and whoever OKed it at Slashdot (*cough*kdawson*cough*) are clueless about how e-mail works.
I'm sorry, but IMHO (and many with me) it's the Qmail users and all other "250 Ok and complain later" folks are clueless and helping with destroying e-mail. Sure, ten years ago when spammers still used their own, valid e-mail addresses, this was okay. Right now you're just sending spam to innocent (joe-jobbed) people.
You can say "Yeah but the spam is not included in the bounce", but I DON'T CARE, a bounce of an e-mail I never sent is also UNWANTED e-mail. And a worse kind of it, because it's less likely to be detected and bounced/filtered by my anti-spam software.
Drop this whole "zOMG DICTIONARY ATTACK!" point, it doesn't make any sense. Only the most trivial e-mail addresses can be found like that and I doubt if spammers really need the kind of dictionary attack usually described here to find them. Just install good spamfiltering on your mailserver and it doesn't matter.
> > The current fashion is to say "250 OK" and then silently delete the message later, which is wrong. > Since SMTP is defective by design, this is an acceptable response.
If you want to drop messages silently without any notification: Sure!
Returning 5xx errors is the only right way to avoid spam. 250ing + bouncing it is just making it someone else's problem, thank you...
> The IT and open source monkeys don't need their own domain names, that's what sourceforge is for.
Bzzt, wrong! SourceForge is there for OSS authors who are too lazy to write a website, docs or anything else and just want to drop a tarball online somewhere and forget about it.:-P
(Yes, I know there are some exceptions. But this is my main annoyance with SourceForge.)
Those challenge-response mail systems don't solve the spam problem, they only move it away from the user. People who use (and) write this shite should be banned from the tubes.
I'm actually surprised that things are different elsewhere. I admit, I haven't worked at many big companies, but I'm used to being able to install whatever I want on my PC and to a fully unlocked Internet connection. Those are things I need to do my job properly, so employers harm themselves as much as they'd harm me if they introduce retarded IT rules and limitations.
> If AOL was serious, they would just implement a Jabber gateway on their end.
Uhm, have you checked one of the related links in this article? They introduced XMPP access just a month or two ago, but had some scalability issues. I hope they'll be able to resolve those soon...
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And maybe that's why almost every e-ticket already states clearly which airplane will be used for every flight?
> Am I missing something? If not, these guys are tards and making a big deal out of nothing. :-)
Even more because this publicity probably burnt all their remaining bridges.
And you seriously think that Google (or any other bigger company) is still using 2-CPU servers?
> Article mentions Android is based on Debian
I have mine for only a week so I may have missed sometihng, but I definitely haven't noticed anything "Debianish" on the phone. Non-GNU libc, very odd userland (it's not GNU nor busybox), etc...
Also, don't forget to set the kernel flag that enables the leap-second code. It's quite likely that this was the cause, and the kernel won't know by itself that it should insert one. See adjtimex(2) for more information.
It's definitely possible that some program couldn't cope with time jumping back. Actually, it may be just as easy to just test this by manually stepping back in time.
Many customized router firmware images (think of OpenWRT and friends) support IPv6. I adapted mine to get that. It sets up a tunnel to SixXS and announces my IPv6 /64 on my LAN. Everything just works.
Not sure if anything out of the box can do this yet, especially the tunneling part.
> You misunderstand the meaning of the octet,
Yours is also a bit lacking:
> If you take 255*255*255*255 :-P
Possibly that page really *was* useful, but the domain name expired. Lots of spammers on the nets like to snatch expired domain names and "monetize" (sic) them.
What especially sickens me is that this "mister Icahn" dude wasn't even a Yahoo! shareholder at the time this whole soap started. As far as I know he bought a shitload of shares less than a month ago and apparently this means he can start messing with things that happened before he got involved.
Maybe this really is how this whole "public company" thing works, but IMHO it's retarded.
What confuses me more is that, AFAIK, FireFox and every other browser already asks "would you like me to be your default?" every time you start them. So what's the difference here?
As usually, Linux already has tools like this for ages, one just has to know how to use them:
tcpdump 'tcp[13] & 4 != 0'
Note that this doesn't apply to all Windows versions. Ask me to do something in a plain Windows XP install (not a sanitized one) and I'll get lost completely since I haven't touched anything after Win2K. I'd probably do even worse with Vista, which I really haven't touched *ever*.
It's an interesting idea though. Just like comparing the price of the average inkjet ink per liter to the price of gold. Guess who wins that one.. :-)
I wrote a tool to create and take tests from students at my high school something like twelve years ago. At least two years ago I think they were still using it. Or they dropped it in favour of something shinier than has windows and stuff but no real added functionality besides a Price Tag [tm]. ;-)
Yeah, the difference engine's really cool, I also saw it there yesterday. AFAIK it's going to be there for a whole year, so for all interested people, take your time. :-)
The PDP-1 is only actually turned on for demos on the first and third Saturday of the month IIRC. So alas, not yesterday.
> Whoever wrote this story, and whoever OKed it at Slashdot (*cough*kdawson*cough*) are clueless about how e-mail works.
I'm sorry, but IMHO (and many with me) it's the Qmail users and all other "250 Ok and complain later" folks are clueless and helping with destroying e-mail. Sure, ten years ago when spammers still used their own, valid e-mail addresses, this was okay. Right now you're just sending spam to innocent (joe-jobbed) people.
You can say "Yeah but the spam is not included in the bounce", but I DON'T CARE, a bounce of an e-mail I never sent is also UNWANTED e-mail. And a worse kind of it, because it's less likely to be detected and bounced/filtered by my anti-spam software.
Drop this whole "zOMG DICTIONARY ATTACK!" point, it doesn't make any sense. Only the most trivial e-mail addresses can be found like that and I doubt if spammers really need the kind of dictionary attack usually described here to find them. Just install good spamfiltering on your mailserver and it doesn't matter.
> > The current fashion is to say "250 OK" and then silently delete the message later, which is wrong.
> Since SMTP is defective by design, this is an acceptable response.
If you want to drop messages silently without any notification: Sure!
Returning 5xx errors is the only right way to avoid spam. 250ing + bouncing it is just making it someone else's problem, thank you...
> The IT and open source monkeys don't need their own domain names, that's what sourceforge is for.
:-P
Bzzt, wrong! SourceForge is there for OSS authors who are too lazy to write a website, docs or anything else and just want to drop a tarball online somewhere and forget about it.
(Yes, I know there are some exceptions. But this is my main annoyance with SourceForge.)
I thought at least /. readers knew the tubes have more to offer than just the world wide web...
Those challenge-response mail systems don't solve the spam problem, they only move it away from the user. People who use (and) write this shite should be banned from the tubes.
An idiot who doesn't know the difference between a username and a domain name but managed to get into an IT department anyway, probably.
I'm actually surprised that things are different elsewhere. I admit, I haven't worked at many big companies, but I'm used to being able to install whatever I want on my PC and to a fully unlocked Internet connection. Those are things I need to do my job properly, so employers harm themselves as much as they'd harm me if they introduce retarded IT rules and limitations.
Yeah. :-) AFAIK they're easier to find between smoking pieces of airplane if it's orange.
Yahoo! used to have a native Linux Y!IM client on their website as well, a few years ago. Don't know if they still have it.
> If AOL was serious, they would just implement a Jabber gateway on their end.
Uhm, have you checked one of the related links in this article? They introduced XMPP access just a month or two ago, but had some scalability issues. I hope they'll be able to resolve those soon...