I know Newt is just making vaporous campaign promises and that there are "trickle down" benefits for ordinary people from the space program, but if you are going to spend big to have new technology why not do something more people can benefit from directly?
- a national network of bullet trains?
- a "space race" for an electric car with the same range as a gas powered car and that can be recharged in under 10 min?
Whenever I hear of something like this coming up someone always makes the point that other corporations do similar things. As far as I am concerned, that doesn't matter. Protesting against Apple will send a strong message against this sort of thing........a message that the upper management in other corporations will see too.
Republicans who support Newt Gingrich don't want to pay taxes even to maintain their crumbling roads, but Gingrich wants to build colonies on the moon and make it into a 51st state?
I agree with the people who think that if HP could make money on OS, they would and it would not be released under an OSS agreement.
I also remember reading on SD a few weeks ago that the HP employees who built said WebOS was a dead end because they based it on some technology that would not handle heavier loads well.
Agreed on all points, but I think HP deserves kudos.
HP could have just locked the WebOS in a drawer, the way many companies do. Instead they are releasing it, which gives people who *might* get something out of it the opportunity.
I think that anyone who is so intellectually impoverished that they cannot or will not relearn menus really ought not be using a computer, and certainly should not be permitted the privilege of being on the Internet, where they constitute an active, operational menace to everyone else.
No disrespect to you personally, but this belief is an old and backward belief that has retarded progress, particularly in the OSS ecosystem.
The whole point of computers is to make something easier and more convenient to do. When in doubt, the onus shouldn't be on the user to figure something out. A good developer *tries* to make things so the user doesn't have to be bothered.
I'm sure there is a good reason why it didn't happen or the drones don't have such a capacity, but one would think that something like a drone would have an autodestruct capacity to prevent just this sort of situation.
You are completely right. The combination of CSS and CMS in modern web sites should greatly reduce the amount of tags.
That is if everyone is doing everything in a modern and common sense way. That is often not the case in professional design work or programming.
I had a job with a company that still relied on foxpro for their production deliverable. They were getting paid real money too.
Designers also make mockups, with many, MANY files. In that situation a WYSIWYG app like Dreamweaver will produce a higher quality product faster and more easily. For that purpose nobody cares how nicely the tags are arranged.
You are repeating a basic point I was trying to make in my comment which you replied to. I think you may have done it better.
Someone who makes only a few html files a week can afford to be an esthetic purist, scrupulously arranging tags with a text editor.
That doesn't work so well for design professional cranking out tons of screens a week.
It would be like a writer putting several magazine articles a week, while insisting on on manually putting in the MS Word or OO writer formatting tags manually, instead of kicking out content.
What OSS developers don't realize, being programmers and not designers, is that NOBODY CARES how well arranged the tags. NOBODY looks at them. Just the way people who read an authors book, the publishers etc don't look at the reveal codes from his word processor.
What you wrote is true, but it left out how people from different OSS projects gripe when their software gets abandoned for software that appeals to users.
They may give a pious speech about how their software is for their own satisfaction only, but they get upset when users criticize it or abandon it for something more useful.
It has been years since I checked, but I don't think there is such an animals.
Last time I asked I got pointed to html/text editors and got a pious sermon about how I didn't really need a WYSIWYG editor.
I didn't, but when the web designer for my company showed me what his work was like I was convinced that he could use a text/HTML editor, but it would take him 5 times as long to do his job.
That is the problem with the OSS community....developers working without a layer of people who are willing to listen to users to find out what they need instead of arrogantly telling them what they will find useful.
It often saves cost over the long term but if the management doesn't care why should the programmer ?
Because the programmer may be asked to update his code. With comments it can be a ten minute job, without comments a major hassles if the programmer hasn't looked at that code in a long time.
A text command is just a symbol, like a menu on a GUI. Yet various IT professional either get (undeserved) pride out of using text commands ( look how smart I am using, alternate, techy looking grunts ) or they get tense when having to deal with a CLI.
I have a number of friends who are Microsoft platform based network admins who fall into the later group. This change is really going to be a shock for them.
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I know Newt is just making vaporous campaign promises and that there are "trickle down" benefits for ordinary people from the space program, but if you are going to spend big to have new technology why not do something more people can benefit from directly?
- a national network of bullet trains?
- a "space race" for an electric car with the same range as a gas powered car and that can be recharged in under 10 min?
Whenever I hear of something like this coming up someone always makes the point that other corporations do similar things. As far as I am concerned, that doesn't matter. Protesting against Apple will send a strong message against this sort of thing........a message that the upper management in other corporations will see too.
Republicans who support Newt Gingrich don't want to pay taxes even to maintain their crumbling roads, but Gingrich wants to build colonies on the moon and make it into a 51st state?
Thanks for being the man's bitch, giving me his static and telling me nothing
I agree with the people who think that if HP could make money on OS, they would and it would not be released under an OSS agreement.
I also remember reading on SD a few weeks ago that the HP employees who built said WebOS was a dead end because they based it on some technology that would not handle heavier loads well.
Agreed on all points, but I think HP deserves kudos.
HP could have just locked the WebOS in a drawer, the way many companies do. Instead they are releasing it, which gives people who *might* get something out of it the opportunity.
What is the bottom line on Google's new consolidated privacy policy? What was private before that is now not private?
I think that anyone who is so intellectually impoverished that they cannot or will not relearn menus really ought not be using a computer, and certainly should not be permitted the privilege of being on the Internet, where they constitute an active, operational menace to everyone else.
No disrespect to you personally, but this belief is an old and backward belief that has retarded progress, particularly in the OSS ecosystem.
The whole point of computers is to make something easier and more convenient to do. When in doubt, the onus shouldn't be on the user to figure something out. A good developer *tries* to make things so the user doesn't have to be bothered.
So someone who complains about people making derisive remarks about an entire country is a troll. Slahsdot: FAIL.
Mention any issue of national pride, ethnicity to a European and see what reaction you get.
Okay, I wouldn't buy one because they are butt-ugly, but even if the weren't I would buy one as they sell them in Europe by insulting Americans.
I am an American, but I am not my government or corporate America.
http://beforewisdom.com/blog/environment/why-i-will-not-buy-a-smart-car/
I'm sure there is a good reason why it didn't happen or the drones don't have such a capacity, but one would think that something like a drone would have an autodestruct capacity to prevent just this sort of situation.
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Your post deserves to be modded up to a %
Saint Fnordius;
You are completely right. The combination of CSS and CMS in modern web sites should greatly reduce the amount of tags.
That is if everyone is doing everything in a modern and common sense way. That is often not the case in professional design work or programming.
I had a job with a company that still relied on foxpro for their production deliverable. They were getting paid real money too.
Designers also make mockups, with many, MANY files. In that situation a WYSIWYG app like Dreamweaver will produce a higher quality product faster and more easily. For that purpose nobody cares how nicely the tags are arranged.
You are repeating a basic point I was trying to make in my comment which you replied to. I think you may have done it better.
Someone who makes only a few html files a week can afford to be an esthetic purist, scrupulously arranging tags with a text editor.
That doesn't work so well for design professional cranking out tons of screens a week.
It would be like a writer putting several magazine articles a week, while insisting on on manually putting in the MS Word or OO writer formatting tags manually, instead of kicking out content.
What OSS developers don't realize, being programmers and not designers, is that NOBODY CARES how well arranged the tags. NOBODY looks at them. Just the way people who read an authors book, the publishers etc don't look at the reveal codes from his word processor.
What you wrote is true, but it left out how people from different OSS projects gripe when their software gets abandoned for software that appeals to users.
They may give a pious speech about how their software is for their own satisfaction only, but they get upset when users criticize it or abandon it for something more useful.
If not, please consider it.
It has been years since I checked, but I don't think there is such an animals.
Last time I asked I got pointed to html/text editors and got a pious sermon about how I didn't really need a WYSIWYG editor.
I didn't, but when the web designer for my company showed me what his work was like I was convinced that he could use a text/HTML editor, but it would take him 5 times as long to do his job.
That is the problem with the OSS community....developers working without a layer of people who are willing to listen to users to find out what they need instead of arrogantly telling them what they will find useful.
Someone told me a few years ago that the U.S. government eventually plans to let people sell their copper pennies for copper.
Any truth to this?
As someone with a half gallon glass jar of pennies I have been filling since antiquity I am interested to know.
Is the world running out of copper or is it that recycling yards make it easy to "fence" stolen copper?
Sounds like great news, can't make other comments.
It often saves cost over the long term but if the management doesn't care why should the programmer ?
Because the programmer may be asked to update his code. With comments it can be a ten minute job, without comments a major hassles if the programmer hasn't looked at that code in a long time.
To a lot of people a CLI has the stigma of being less modern while a GUI has the connotation of being more modern, more convenient.
I wonder how the MS marketing people are going to handle the perception ( perhaps mistaken ) that MS is taking a step backwards.
A text command is just a symbol, like a menu on a GUI. Yet various IT professional either get (undeserved) pride out of using text commands ( look how smart I am using, alternate, techy looking grunts ) or they get tense when having to deal with a CLI.
I have a number of friends who are Microsoft platform based network admins who fall into the later group. This change is really going to be a shock for them.