Perl has a very handy construct that can render almost all code highly maintainable: # # it looks like this # The same construct can be used to optimize and make the pearl code more useful. Just include the '#' at the beginning of each line in your script^H^H^H^H^H^Hprogram. Thank you.
Of course there's more than one way to spell it... Why not Practical Extraction And Reporting Language? Why not Pathetic Excuse for a Real Language? It sure makes more sense to me...
As a hardcore user of the top two free versions of EMACS, it has always struck me as divisive and counterproductive the split between the parties of GNU EMacs and XEmacs. In the past two years, I have been mostly using XEmacs and find its features a tad more complete and useful than those of GNU Emacs. I have also read about the history of the fork, but mostly from the XEmacs side of the fence. It seems to me that most of the technical and philosophical (XEmacs originally being part of a commercial Lucid product) can now be put aside. So my question is, given that both versions of Emacs are free, in the sense championed by the FSF, and that the technical issues that originated the split seem to be melting away, couldn't we see a deliberate effort by the FSF towards the goal of merging the code GNU Emacs and FSF Emacs?
One interesting thing we can see in the discussions here is the conspicuous absence of distinguished M$ Astroturfers, such as Zico, Rombuu and TummyX. Maybe, just maybe, this can be recognition of the wrong-doing of their beloved company? Or are they just trying to keep a low profile, so as not to appear as "zealots". C'mon guys, we'd appreciate your thoughts on this subject!
And 16 years after that, the GNU project still hasn't managed to produce HURD kernel that could compete with a ColecoVision. Great development model they've got there. Cute, but it took Microsoft 15 years to get from DOS to Windoze 95, right? And how good is that development model, Mr. "I shill for Bill"?
And if we are in the 'first world', where are the 'second world' countries?
The second world was the former Soviet bloc. The term ~third world~ was used to designate the non-aligned nations movement, started by the likes of Tito (Yugoslavia), Nehru (india) and Nasser (Egypt), which congregated nations that did not side with either the US or the USSR in the cold war era. The term stick, even after the downfall of the Soviet empire, and now designates the "non-industrialized" (another misnomer) developing nations in South America, Africa and Asia.
Incidentally, what makes you think we're all in the firsat world? Slashdot is a big place, now:-)
As for Brazil, the Portugese bloodline is alive and well in that country, even though they are independent. The default language of the country is Portugese for fuck's sake. They are Portugese people that happen to live in Brazil.
Definitely, Talisman, you should go through those National Geographic specials again, because your knowledge of contemporary geography is sorely lacking. The Brazilian are no more Portuguese than the Mexican are Spanish, that is, apart from the language and a very strong cultural influence in their colonial past, both countries owe more, culturally speaking, to the mixture of ethnicities that took place there, than to this purported benign civilizing effort by European powers.
But despite all you geographical ineptitude, the point that people should be tearing apart in your comment is: wht the hell is your problem with people in Africa making a sound, both from a technological and economical point of view, decision in the shaping of thein computational infrastructure? You think maybe going through all stages that more industrialized and affluent societies went would avail them much? Or do you not think it is a smart move to try to play catch up tackling what's currently leading edge technology?
Get off your high horse and walk a while in the fields. You may learn somthing.
Nope. If what I said was false, THEN I would be prejudice.
Yeah, if the world was not flat, then you would be wrong... Wait, you are!
"Brazil (populated by the Portugese), South Africa (populated by the Dutch) and India (occupied by the British for decades) are all large consumers of computing technology and are relatively well-integrated into the Internet."
It seems to me you have missed some of those NG specials (or had you switched to Jerry Springer instead?). See how much influence the British have in the shaping of the technological economy in India and then come back talk to us. And WRT to the Afrikaaner in SA , if they had their way SA would be just one huge plantation/gold mine operated by black slave labor. Quite progressive that, eh?
It may bother you to know this, but most religions are inherently evangelical.
Actually, most religions are not proseletyzing. The fact that the two major religions (Christianity and Islam, both monotheistic) are, does not change the fact that the majority of religions are intertwined with the concept of ethnicity. You don't see many Jews, Hindus and Buddhists evangelizing, do you? Look up your history books: how many times have Indian civilizations invaded China trying to convert the Chinese to Hinduism? Or vice versa? Does that tell you something about evangelization?
There was a difference. The republicans were trying to set up a democracy, human rights and all the
nice things spain only got 40 years later for good.
Actually, many of the forces allied on the republican side were only trying to set up a temporary puppet democaracy Kerenski-style democracy to be promptly overturned by the proletariat's revolution, and we all know what that would mean: a dictatorship far more cruel and bloodier than Franco's, like david kindly remembered us. This is not meant in his defense, though.
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I don't get it. People have bastardized HTML, but more and more you see a trend towards the standard. Conversely, the standard gets richer. I also fail to understand your point about gcc. It has never compiled C++ comments when you turn on `-ansi'.
That doesn't mean adding enhancements is always bad - it's a double edged sword.
Wait, now I understand, Abigail! As long as it's not PERL that's being enhanced, it is just plain wrong! Evil, evil standards-hating mongrels!
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The Orgasmotron!
LOL! But you reference was totally lost on the Slashdot crowd.
For an insight into Cutler's infantile character (which so well matches that of his boss, or so they say) and insane hatred of Unix, read Peter Sallus' book "25 years of the Unix Operating System". Did someone say professional jealousy?
Microsoft can contribute a lot. If it's good, and if it benefits Perl (like a fork() for the Windows platform) it will be added to Perl, be it in the core, or as a module in the standard library. If they come with crud, it will never find its way to Perl.
I think that's more like only if they come out with crud (which sure they will), will it find its way into Perl:-P
Canada is "America" as well, and so is every country "south of the border"...
The insistence in calling their country "America" as if it was the sole occupant of the New World is one of the little nuisances that doesn't contribute to make US citizens any more esteemed around other parts of the continent.
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Perl has a very handy construct that can render almost all code highly maintainable: # # it looks like this # The same construct can be used to optimize and make the pearl code more useful. Just include the '#' at the beginning of each line in your script^H^H^H^H^H^Hprogram. Thank you.
Of course there's more than one way to spell it... Why not Practical Extraction And Reporting Language? Why not Pathetic Excuse for a Real Language? It sure makes more sense to me...
What does the "M" stand for?
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure its Matthew...
As a hardcore user of the top two free versions of EMACS, it has always struck me as divisive and counterproductive the split between the parties of GNU EMacs and XEmacs. In the past two years, I have been mostly using XEmacs and find its features a tad more complete and useful than those of GNU Emacs. I have also read about the history of the fork, but mostly from the XEmacs side of the fence. It seems to me that most of the technical and philosophical (XEmacs originally being part of a commercial Lucid product) can now be put aside.
So my question is, given that both versions of Emacs are free, in the sense championed by the FSF, and that the technical issues that originated the split seem to be melting away, couldn't we see a deliberate effort by the FSF towards the goal of merging the code GNU Emacs and FSF Emacs?
One interesting thing we can see in the discussions here is the conspicuous absence of distinguished M$ Astroturfers, such as Zico, Rombuu and TummyX.
Maybe, just maybe, this can be recognition of the wrong-doing of their beloved company? Or are they just trying to keep a low profile, so as not to appear as "zealots". C'mon guys, we'd appreciate your thoughts on this subject!
And 16 years after that, the GNU project still hasn't managed to produce HURD kernel that could compete with a ColecoVision. Great development model they've got there.
Cute, but it took Microsoft 15 years to get from DOS to Windoze 95, right? And how good is that development model, Mr. "I shill for Bill"?
Moderators, the above post is flamebait in its purest form!
The second world was the former Soviet bloc. The term ~third world~ was used to designate the non-aligned nations movement, started by the likes of Tito (Yugoslavia), Nehru (india) and Nasser (Egypt), which congregated nations that did not side with either the US or the USSR in the cold war era. The term stick, even after the downfall of the Soviet empire, and now designates the "non-industrialized" (another misnomer) developing nations in South America, Africa and Asia.
Incidentally, what makes you think we're all in the firsat world? Slashdot is a big place, now :-)
Definitely, Talisman, you should go through those National Geographic specials again, because your knowledge of contemporary geography is sorely lacking. The Brazilian are no more Portuguese than the Mexican are Spanish, that is, apart from the language and a very strong cultural influence in their colonial past, both countries owe more, culturally speaking, to the mixture of ethnicities that took place there, than to this purported benign civilizing effort by European powers.
But despite all you geographical ineptitude, the point that people should be tearing apart in your comment is: wht the hell is your problem with people in Africa making a sound, both from a technological and economical point of view, decision in the shaping of thein computational infrastructure? You think maybe going through all stages that more industrialized and affluent societies went would avail them much? Or do you not think it is a smart move to try to play catch up tackling what's currently leading edge technology?
Get off your high horse and walk a while in the fields. You may learn somthing.
Yeah, if the world was not flat, then you would be wrong... Wait, you are!
"Brazil (populated by the Portugese), South Africa (populated by the Dutch) and India (occupied by the British for decades) are all large consumers of computing technology and are relatively well-integrated into the Internet."
It seems to me you have missed some of those NG specials (or had you switched to Jerry Springer instead?). See how much influence the British have in the shaping of the technological economy in India and then come back talk to us. And WRT to the Afrikaaner in SA , if they had their way SA would be just one huge plantation/gold mine operated by black slave labor. Quite progressive that, eh?
Actually, most religions are not proseletyzing. The fact that the two major religions (Christianity and Islam, both monotheistic) are, does not change the fact that the majority of religions are intertwined with the concept of ethnicity. You don't see many Jews, Hindus and Buddhists evangelizing, do you? Look up your history books: how many times have Indian civilizations invaded China trying to convert the Chinese to Hinduism? Or vice versa? Does that tell you something about evangelization?
Actually, many of the forces allied on the republican side were only trying to set up a temporary puppet democaracy Kerenski-style democracy to be promptly overturned by the proletariat's revolution, and we all know what that would mean: a dictatorship far more cruel and bloodier than Franco's, like david kindly remembered us. This is not meant in his defense, though.
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I don't get it. People have bastardized HTML, but more and more you see a trend towards the standard. Conversely, the standard gets richer. I also fail to understand your point about gcc. It has never compiled C++ comments when you turn on `-ansi'.
That doesn't mean adding enhancements is always bad - it's a double edged sword.
Wait, now I understand, Abigail! As long as it's not PERL that's being enhanced, it is just plain wrong! Evil, evil standards-hating mongrels!
The Orgasmotron!
LOL! But you reference was totally lost on the Slashdot crowd.
In some countries of South America the conversion rate is 3-4 times the birth rate.
All countries in South America are majoritarily Christian. Or by Christian you mean, I presume Protestants, a.k.a, heretics?
I think he's not in touch with his overseas colleagues. From Netcraft, we get:
www.unisys.com.br
www.unisys.com.br is running Apache/1.2.5
Apache is also being used by Javasoft, Financial Times, W3 Consortium, and The Royal Family.
For an insight into Cutler's infantile character (which so well matches that of his boss, or so they say) and insane hatred of Unix, read Peter Sallus' book "25 years of the Unix Operating System".
Did someone say professional jealousy?
The fact is that the people are at fault for their own ignorance. Computers have existed for 25 years now.
25 years??? Yeah, whatever. So much for Von Neumann and other pioneers, so much for the ENIAC etc. Sheesh, talk about putting a foot in one's mouth...
Microsoft can contribute a lot. If it's good, and if it benefits Perl (like a fork() for the Windows platform) it will be added to Perl, be it in the core, or as a module in the standard library. If they come with crud, it will never find its way to Perl.
:-P
I think that's more like only if they come out with crud (which sure they will), will it find its way into Perl
Dude! That's got to be the best post so far in this weird thread!
Too bad so few will appreciate all the irony...
"Religious theocracy", uh-huh!
If the Christian Coalition and their fundamentalist ilk have their way you will be dying to emigrate to Iran!
Canada is "America" as well, and so is every country "south of the border"...
The insistence in calling their country "America" as if it was the sole occupant of the New World is one of the little nuisances that doesn't contribute to make US citizens any more esteemed around other parts of the continent.
Hehehe, é duro competir com estudantes com um bocado de tempo livre e um T1 nas mãos ;-)
Second to reply also from .br ...
Yow, Sinclair revisited!
We could have Perl on the ROM, and the rubber
keyboard would spit out Perl commands!
$ apropos MS-Windows
MS-Windows: nothing appropriate