That sounds great for a shop of 100 computers. What about a real corp?
Lets take this scenario...
Somewhere w/ about 3000 people and 1000 computers or so. 200 of those computers "belong" (are assigned) to individual users, and the rest float. For about 60 of the float computers they are assigned on a per shift basis, and the rest have floating profiles. 24 hour use for all 800 that are not assigned to individuals.
The first 200 guys are using high demand (proc and ram) apps, using large databases, spreadsheets, and analysis tools. The other guys sometimes might use a spreadsheet, but mostly just need some terminal style apps and IE. Sure, these later guys could be put on a terminal and most probly wouldn't even know the difference.
Put the first 200 on a terminal, and they will kick, scream, and throw productivity #'s around until they get what they want. These guys ultimately have control over I.S. because they are the corporate leadership. While they will aprove most reasonable IS decisions, they are not going to allow something like this to get implemented due to loss in productivity (real, assumed, or otherwise)
It's these guys you have to wory about though. But it's a small subset, of those 200, maybe 30 know their way around an OS. Maybe 15 have actually tried a distro of some sort on their own. Really, these guys can take care of themselves. But if one goes ahem... above (below)and beyond any connection between work and personal satisfaction what can you do? If you disable something, they'll re-enable it. if you lock em out of bios, they'll open it up clear the cmos and go back. If you disable admin, they load a knopix pw breaker disc.
Well, you warn them, call em out, warn them again, then can em!
I am serious, not trying to be snide. We know at our workplace that the network drive is where we should store things that we really want to keep. Local is for apps. (or our pirated music as is postulated in this example.)
Also, I do agree that possession is 9/10ths... But possession can be defined totally different in different situations, for example...
When a person willfully and with wanton soup is wreckless with their car, just because the bank owns the car they don't become responsible for the damages, they are just responsible for thier investment loss in the vehicle (assuming the owner defaults, and most wreckless people will)
Also, who is now in possession of my keyboard, is it the building owner? the property owner? the corporation? The ISP? the Network? or the guy typing?
I again am just playing devil's advocate, I think it's fun. But I just wonder how when a company has policy against this stuff (just about everyone now has an information tech agreement you have to sign to work there)they should be held responsible for an individuals own actions.
As for your IT/Programmer rules, I applaud greatly for that stance. Even if you do know more than the IT guys, cut em some slack, they make crap for $ and usually don't have the training needed to do their job. Granted some think they know it all, so what? You know that you could write a tunnel straight to your favorite pron site and they'd never know. Just do it and don't whine. Also, when you befriend an IT person. Suddenly you find your life getting easier. Need a port unblocked for some R&R time? Not gonna happen if you piss em off!
Exactly how it should be, but the discussion would fall between the IT guy (parent) and your manager (not in this conversation, but still a real entity)
You would be out of that loop, till the actual install decision was made.
However it doesn't work well either though, cause some managers (like mine) sign them anything I hand them... Others Want a 10 page essay on friday on why you need to have an archiver w/ encryption installed on your machine yesterday. (very real need for where I work)
Really, the practice is probably tailored to suit to organizational goals / needs.
A NPO can get away w/ a lot more leniency here than say a for profit large data entry company who employs 3k people, and has an IT staff of 100.
that stored the music. It's pretty reasonable to assume that well, lets see the music is stored under
C:\Documents and Settings\John User\Documents\My Music\Lita Ford
I think John User must have done it. I am pretty sure if you spell it out as policy against such actions, that the company would divert *.aa to the actual user that comitted the infraction. No amount of hand holding can really prevent this sort of thing. If they have access to the box, they have root right? That's what we say all the time here.
They will do stuff like this. It'll get worse as the younger generation grows into working age.
That's why I don't store too much personal data on my work computer, but access my own music via streams from orb.com
However, I guess we could just make it illegal to use workstations at work, and make everyone access company infrastructure via a terminal. Yeah GREAT IDEA...
"Interface is neat and easy to use." I agree, but must conceede that it may be due to lack of features.
"It's mentioned on other sites that this is a beta release of PSX." Also a very important thing to note, but so is G-mail. (just kidding)
"I would assume there will be more functions added on. Also, don't forget, there will most likely be a subscription fee in the future..."
Here is where I would have to argue a bit. (well I don't have to, but I read/. so I must pretend to know everything) Unless they drastically increase their features, there is no way this will go to a subscription supported app. It's just too "LITE." Picassa does everything this does, comes w/ the same amount of space, is free, and also performs some neat searching functions.
Beta is cool and all, maybe they are hiding some neat stuff in the basement for a true "LIVE" subscription based launch. Maybe they just wanted to load test a server, but I just can't think of how in it's current form (or close to it) would be fee based. NO one who can use picassa, flicker, myspace, photobucket, snapfish, to store photos is going to switch unless they are service spanning... (not that I would do this unethical thing... 8')
Requires Flash 9. to install. They have a notice that basically says Account creation is heavy today it may take 60 minutes to recieve your e-mail.
Mine (done 4 min. ago) took about 1 min.
Super fast uploading! 1 3mb pic took all of 3 seconds to upload!
Very basic editing tools, but has a few cool distortion features. One neat thing to note is links to external sites such as Picassa, Photobucket and Phacebook! (er uh Facebook!)
Gallery and gallery sharing is neat, but slow (probably due to high use right now) This won't come close to replacing your pirated versions of PS you all have at home. It'll be interesting to see if they add new tools or leave it as is.
What can you usefully surf w/ Lynx today? A screenshot would rock!
I remember back... kinda... in the days when my BBS provided lynx support. I think I was like 2. (o.k. maybe 15, but showing my age none the less.) I remember reading an article about a duckbilled platypus or something. Ugly text formatting, but readable.
You just did "Cost benefit analysis" or sometimes called Risk Analysis.
That is the same thing that says, do I leave an unsecured wireless AP, or a lightly secured WEP AP that shows I did at least due dilligence?
For personal Machines, I'd take the fast way, for shure, assuming data is backed up regularly.
For corporate machines,(in general,Caveat emptor, and risk assesment would need to be performed on a per machine basis.) I wouldn't trust an icecubes chance in hell (hey, what if Satan has a freezer?), it'd be slow and working 100% or not implemented. (again, for the most part)
The thing is, Great amount of work can be lost (or Stolen) in just a days time. Also, most people don't save (or backup) incrementally throughout the day, they save at the end of the day and if they are really good, sometimes at lunch too.
Hell, I am a computer nerd, and I only back up quarterly. (in addition to saving most "true work" to the network drives)
The thing is, True time travel would put you back "when" and when is linked to where, since during any travel of any sort, D(distance traveled)= Average(V)*Time If you remove the time or (negate the time) you negate the D, thus being where you "were"
Worrying about ending up in space going back or forward is silly, since, time travel would have to include the distance you have traveled in your current time!
Tell that to my wife, Last week she bought stemless glasses, a decanter, and a bunson burner that she thought "looked neat." I know she is making meth or rocketfuel somewhere but I can't prove it.
Thats completely true. I guess I wasn't thinking of that. If it was a whitehat type of worm, though, it will never get out of Redmond. People will cry, and rightfully so w/ good reason, that their rights will be violated, or just plain old Microphucked.
I love the idea of P2P distribution of hotfixes ala Bliztorent, and that has a much higher probabliity of seeing the light of day in an OS situation than a true worm does. Even if a white worm distributed fixes , black worms would just distrubute then fix themselves, or spoofing the fix by closing the port when they don't need it.
I thought the exact same thing, minus the move along part.
The thing is, now we can "Let" access come from a good worm, and deny access from a good worm. Also, we now have the tech to have the good worm live a lifespan, for instance, terminating itself on a timer or home connection count, etc such as to reduce the potential hole it leaves open. Or it could be a "signed" worm.
It's definately an old Idea, but one that we now have a way to make it P2P.
so you'll walk right into the X-Box? I heard it was good, but since Gates won't challenge me to a PC vs. Xbox game of Halo (w/ me on the PC of course) then I guess I'll never get close enough to one to know!
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Wow, I never would have realized that. Full backups or just docs& settings?
That sounds great for a shop of 100 computers. What about a real corp?
Lets take this scenario...
Somewhere w/ about 3000 people and 1000 computers or so.
200 of those computers "belong" (are assigned) to individual users, and the rest float.
For about 60 of the float computers they are assigned on a per shift basis, and the rest have floating profiles.
24 hour use for all 800 that are not assigned to individuals.
The first 200 guys are using high demand (proc and ram) apps, using large databases, spreadsheets, and analysis tools.
The other guys sometimes might use a spreadsheet, but mostly just need some terminal style apps and IE. Sure, these later guys could be put on a terminal and most probly wouldn't even know the difference.
Put the first 200 on a terminal, and they will kick, scream, and throw productivity #'s around until they get what they want. These guys ultimately have control over I.S. because they are the corporate leadership. While they will aprove most reasonable IS decisions, they are not going to allow something like this to get implemented due to loss in productivity (real, assumed, or otherwise)
It's these guys you have to wory about though. But it's a small subset, of those 200, maybe 30 know their way around an OS. Maybe 15 have actually tried a distro of some sort on their own. Really, these guys can take care of themselves. But if one goes ahem... above (below)and beyond any connection between work and personal satisfaction what can you do? If you disable something, they'll re-enable it. if you lock em out of bios, they'll open it up clear the cmos and go back. If you disable admin, they load a knopix pw breaker disc.
Well, you warn them, call em out, warn them again, then can em!
Who backs up everyones Local drives? Gov?
I am serious, not trying to be snide. We know at our workplace that the network drive is where we should store things that we really want to keep. Local is for apps. (or our pirated music as is postulated in this example.)
Also, I do agree that possession is 9/10ths... But possession can be defined totally different in different situations, for example...
When a person willfully and with wanton soup is wreckless with their car, just because the bank owns the car they don't become responsible for the damages, they are just responsible for thier investment loss in the vehicle (assuming the owner defaults, and most wreckless people will)
Also, who is now in possession of my keyboard, is it the building owner? the property owner? the corporation? The ISP? the Network? or the guy typing?
I again am just playing devil's advocate, I think it's fun. But I just wonder how when a company has policy against this stuff (just about everyone now has an information tech agreement you have to sign to work there)they should be held responsible for an individuals own actions.
Use the term weasela in a negative manner...
8')
j/k
As for your IT/Programmer rules, I applaud greatly for that stance. Even if you do know more than the IT guys, cut em some slack, they make crap for $ and usually don't have the training needed to do their job. Granted some think they know it all, so what? You know that you could write a tunnel straight to your favorite pron site and they'd never know. Just do it and don't whine. Also, when you befriend an IT person. Suddenly you find your life getting easier. Need a port unblocked for some R&R time? Not gonna happen if you piss em off!
Exactly how it should be, but the discussion would fall between the IT guy (parent) and your manager (not in this conversation, but still a real entity)
You would be out of that loop, till the actual install decision was made.
However it doesn't work well either though, cause some managers (like mine) sign them anything I hand them... Others Want a 10 page essay on friday on why you need to have an archiver w/ encryption installed on your machine yesterday. (very real need for where I work)
Really, the practice is probably tailored to suit to organizational goals / needs.
A NPO can get away w/ a lot more leniency here than say a for profit large data entry company who employs 3k people, and has an IT staff of 100.
(All numbers are not imaginary, they are made up)
How about if you give people local admin iff they are actually competent to do so?
Thank You!
I was wondering the same question!
P.S. The time delay for posting really sucks for people who type faster than they think.
that stored the music. It's pretty reasonable to assume that well, lets see the music is stored under
C:\Documents and Settings\John User\Documents\My Music\Lita Ford
I think John User must have done it. I am pretty sure if you spell it out as policy against such actions, that the company would divert *.aa to the actual user that comitted the infraction. No amount of hand holding can really prevent this sort of thing. If they have access to the box, they have root right? That's what we say all the time here.
They will do stuff like this. It'll get worse as the younger generation grows into working age.
That's why I don't store too much personal data on my work computer, but access my own music via streams from orb.com
However, I guess we could just make it illegal to use workstations at work, and make everyone access company infrastructure via a terminal. Yeah GREAT IDEA...
If you tell your IT guys to configure the machine as they need it that gives them "excuse the pun: LISCENSE" to go buy the software they need!
Custom time stamps now like outlook and myspace!
Except they arive when they are set too!
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html
I showed my boss a sallary survey...
Luckily for me he fell for it!
Windows XP has BATCH resizing capability as a download and you can crop in Paint.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe
"Interface is neat and easy to use."
/. so I must pretend to know everything)
I agree, but must conceede that it may be due to lack of features.
"It's mentioned on other sites that this is a beta release of PSX."
Also a very important thing to note, but so is G-mail. (just kidding)
"I would assume there will be more functions added on. Also, don't forget, there will most likely be a subscription fee in the future..."
Here is where I would have to argue a bit. (well I don't have to, but I read
Unless they drastically increase their features, there is no way this will go to a subscription supported app. It's just too "LITE." Picassa does everything this does, comes w/ the same amount of space, is free, and also performs some neat searching functions.
Beta is cool and all, maybe they are hiding some neat stuff in the basement for a true "LIVE" subscription based launch. Maybe they just wanted to load test a server, but I just can't think of how in it's current form (or close to it) would be fee based. NO one who can use picassa, flicker, myspace, photobucket, snapfish, to store photos is going to switch unless they are service spanning... (not that I would do this unethical thing... 8')
Here is what I have noticed so far.
Requires Flash 9. to install.
They have a notice that basically says
Account creation is heavy today it may take 60 minutes to recieve your e-mail.
Mine (done 4 min. ago) took about 1 min.
Super fast uploading! 1 3mb pic took all of 3 seconds to upload!
Very basic editing tools, but has a few cool distortion features. One neat thing to note is links to external sites such as Picassa, Photobucket and Phacebook! (er uh Facebook!)
Gallery and gallery sharing is neat, but slow (probably due to high use right now)
This won't come close to replacing your pirated versions of PS you all have at home. It'll be interesting to see if they add new tools or leave it as is.
I appreciated that very much. I don't hate IE7 so much now. 8')
Are allways N+20 years out where N is todays date (updated every day)
What can you usefully surf w/ Lynx today? A screenshot would rock!
... kinda... in the days when my BBS provided lynx support. I think I was like 2. (o.k. maybe 15, but showing my age none the less.) I remember reading an article about a duckbilled platypus or something. Ugly text formatting, but readable.
I remember back
You just did "Cost benefit analysis" or sometimes called Risk Analysis.
That is the same thing that says, do I leave an unsecured wireless AP, or a lightly secured WEP AP that shows I did at least due dilligence?
For personal Machines, I'd take the fast way, for shure, assuming data is backed up regularly.
For corporate machines,(in general,Caveat emptor, and risk assesment would need to be performed on a per machine basis.) I wouldn't trust an icecubes chance in hell (hey, what if Satan has a freezer?), it'd be slow and working 100% or not implemented. (again, for the most part)
The thing is, Great amount of work can be lost (or Stolen) in just a days time. Also, most people don't save (or backup) incrementally throughout the day, they save at the end of the day and if they are really good, sometimes at lunch too.
Hell, I am a computer nerd, and I only back up quarterly. (in addition to saving most "true work" to the network drives)
The thing is, True time travel would put you back "when" and when is linked to where, since during any travel of any sort, D(distance traveled)= Average(V)*Time If you remove the time or (negate the time) you negate the D, thus being where you "were"
Worrying about ending up in space going back or forward is silly, since, time travel would have to include the distance you have traveled in your current time!
Does that make sense, or did I just geek out?
If, your on alliance, and you can induce a premature pull, often, it will buy enough time for the that final battle to be won by the alliance!
Shard pets FTW!
I have often thought of using a boyant weight system to generate power the same way!
Tell that to my wife, Last week she bought stemless glasses, a decanter, and a bunson burner that she thought "looked neat." I know she is making meth or rocketfuel somewhere but I can't prove it.
/agree 8')
Thats completely true. I guess I wasn't thinking of that. If it was a whitehat type of worm, though, it will never get out of Redmond. People will cry, and rightfully so w/ good reason, that their rights will be violated, or just plain old Microphucked.
I love the idea of P2P distribution of hotfixes ala Bliztorent, and that has a much higher probabliity of seeing the light of day in an OS situation than a true worm does. Even if a white worm distributed fixes , black worms would just distrubute then fix themselves, or spoofing the fix by closing the port when they don't need it.
I thought the exact same thing, minus the move along part.
The thing is, now we can "Let" access come from a good worm, and deny access from a good worm. Also, we now have the tech to have the good worm live a lifespan, for instance, terminating itself on a timer or home connection count, etc such as to reduce the potential hole it leaves open. Or it could be a "signed" worm.
It's definately an old Idea, but one that we now have a way to make it P2P.
so you'll walk right into the X-Box? I heard it was good, but since Gates won't challenge me to a PC vs. Xbox game of Halo (w/ me on the PC of course) then I guess I'll never get close enough to one to know!