This is slahdot, where anyone can, and should, do anything they want as long as they aren't actively and effectively forced not to and then they are entitled to whine and complain that their liberties are being taken away and everyone (else) should rise up against the man.
Where people that abuse free wifi are the people's hero. Take everything you can and give nothing back is the motto.
In other words, you've got a valid point but it will fall on willfully deaf ears here.
"Isn't this the point of Linux? Choice? Education is the key here, not complaining that it's too hard to decide. Pretty easy to present both and give good information for the new user to decide which to use."
So why not actually do both? Oh ya, one of them is a documentation thing. Someone else's problem.
"Gotta disagree, the Ubuntu forum is one of the most helpful and friendly I've seen for most anything."
One specific example in a sea of "It's open source, rewrite the code and fix it yourself." does not make the community friendly.
So if the bits in a file are media, copying them isn't theft since they are still there so the 'pirating' is A-OK.
If the bits in a file are under the GPL or some other open source license it is now somehow wrong to pirate them even though all the bits are still there.
And that website on the other side of the world totally has the same level of Quality of Service as a phone call.
People put up with crappy cell phone calls, d ppin ev ry ther s lla le, but complain to high hell when there's the least bit of echo or static on a (non-VoIP) land line.
As a colony America did not have representation in Parliament. They tried to get representation before the war, but Britain wouldn't give in to one of their colonies.
Believe it or not, political means were tried before military means.
If you're not in a detention cell of some sort (or dead/soon to be dead) when you're yelling "LIBERTY OR DEATH!!!!" to the masses, you're doing it rather hypocritically and it becomes little more than a cliche.
It's easy to tell someone else that paradise and the 72 virgins is totally worth it when you're not the one about to blow himself up.
It's easy to be the internet revolutionary that screams down with the gubment from the safety of the local starbucks.
The Founding Fathers got the right to the "or death" part since that was a real consequence for them. Other uses just become hyperbolic statements that serve no purpose other than partisan politics and subverting any sort of rational discourse.
This sort of warrantless intrusion is wrong. Forming the red-neck militia and stocking up on canned bacon isn't the way to go about changing it. We have laws. We have law makers. Getting one to change the other is the way. Oh, you can't get rid of your local politician because everyone else votes for him? Well, that doesn't give you the right skip the democratic process just because you don't like the results. "It's not tyranny when I do it" just doesn't cut it.
We're all elite Libertopian warriors here on slashdot.
The power of the Invisible Hand will sweep away those evil commie-pinko-socialist-fascist-hippy invaders the moment they set foot on your paid for with non-fiat currency land.
You know, for types that go all "liberty or death!!!1!!" whenever anyone tells them to do (or not do) something slashbots sure do love telling other people how they should run their services.
This store isn't selling what I want them to sell! In the name of freedom and liberty we must force them to sell this! They rejected my app because of their guidelines! They must use my guidelines, I demand it!
And that action should go through the boxes in the correct order without skipping any. Jumping right to the 'ammo' box isn't the right way to do things in a lawful society.
Did you inquire what a movie ticket would cost for a showing without ads or trailers? Probably more than $10.
"It's odd that only a few years ago, the movie/theatre business made a nice profit without having these commercials, yet now they cannot live without them."
Nothing ever changes, never. Costs never go up. Revenue never goes down. There are no alternative to a movie theater and never will be.
Skype is a lot like Flash when it comes to slashbots.
Before Apple said "no Flash on our devices" Flash was absolutely worthless and evil.
As soon as Apple said no Flash on their devices Flash was a saint in the process of being martyred by evil tech-heathens.
So in any other context (or previous threads) Skype is the epitome of the corruptness and wastefulness (OMG it uses bandwidth even when you're not talking!!!) of closed source. Now that it is available to the droidbois it is the symbol of freedom, sticking to the (telecom) man.
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Perhaps he knew he wasn't going to get paid for all the time it would take for him to do a full code review?
Thank you AC for proving my point.
You are why we can't have nice things.
This is slahdot, where anyone can, and should, do anything they want as long as they aren't actively and effectively forced not to and then they are entitled to whine and complain that their liberties are being taken away and everyone (else) should rise up against the man.
Where people that abuse free wifi are the people's hero. Take everything you can and give nothing back is the motto.
In other words, you've got a valid point but it will fall on willfully deaf ears here.
Please stop making terrorism the new literally.
You are a totally unique and special Droidboi, exactly like all the other Droidbois.
It's easy to have growth when you've got Buy-One-Get-x deals.
Sorry, your degrees were deemed to be non-notable and were flagged for speedy deletion.
"Isn't this the point of Linux? Choice? Education is the key here, not complaining that it's too hard to decide. Pretty easy to present both and give good information for the new user to decide which to use."
So why not actually do both? Oh ya, one of them is a documentation thing. Someone else's problem.
"Gotta disagree, the Ubuntu forum is one of the most helpful and friendly I've seen for most anything."
One specific example in a sea of "It's open source, rewrite the code and fix it yourself." does not make the community friendly.
So if the bits in a file are media, copying them isn't theft since they are still there so the 'pirating' is A-OK.
If the bits in a file are under the GPL or some other open source license it is now somehow wrong to pirate them even though all the bits are still there.
Got it.
No, wait, don't got it.
There is a camera connection kit. One adapter for usb, one for SD cards.
They'll be ethical as long as it serves their self interest. Libertarians, after all, are enlightened.
And that website on the other side of the world totally has the same level of Quality of Service as a phone call.
People put up with crappy cell phone calls, d ppin ev ry ther s lla le, but complain to high hell when there's the least bit of echo or static on a (non-VoIP) land line.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Or I'm someone who can vote.
As a colony America did not have representation in Parliament. They tried to get representation before the war, but Britain wouldn't give in to one of their colonies.
Believe it or not, political means were tried before military means.
1776: "We lack representation in government and have no other recourse."
2010: "We are the government and have recourse to change laws."
If you're not in a detention cell of some sort (or dead/soon to be dead) when you're yelling "LIBERTY OR DEATH!!!!" to the masses, you're doing it rather hypocritically and it becomes little more than a cliche.
It's easy to tell someone else that paradise and the 72 virgins is totally worth it when you're not the one about to blow himself up.
It's easy to be the internet revolutionary that screams down with the gubment from the safety of the local starbucks.
The Founding Fathers got the right to the "or death" part since that was a real consequence for them. Other uses just become hyperbolic statements that serve no purpose other than partisan politics and subverting any sort of rational discourse.
This sort of warrantless intrusion is wrong. Forming the red-neck militia and stocking up on canned bacon isn't the way to go about changing it. We have laws. We have law makers. Getting one to change the other is the way. Oh, you can't get rid of your local politician because everyone else votes for him? Well, that doesn't give you the right skip the democratic process just because you don't like the results. "It's not tyranny when I do it" just doesn't cut it.
We're all elite Libertopian warriors here on slashdot.
The power of the Invisible Hand will sweep away those evil commie-pinko-socialist-fascist-hippy invaders the moment they set foot on your paid for with non-fiat currency land.
You know, for types that go all "liberty or death!!!1!!" whenever anyone tells them to do (or not do) something slashbots sure do love telling other people how they should run their services.
This store isn't selling what I want them to sell! In the name of freedom and liberty we must force them to sell this! They rejected my app because of their guidelines! They must use my guidelines, I demand it!
Seems like someone figured it out http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/10/06/0158227/Canadian-Spammer-Fined-Over-1-Billion/.
That would be box one, the soapbox. Two left before getting to the ammo box.
And that action should go through the boxes in the correct order without skipping any. Jumping right to the 'ammo' box isn't the right way to do things in a lawful society.
Did you inquire what a movie ticket would cost for a showing without ads or trailers? Probably more than $10.
"It's odd that only a few years ago, the movie/theatre business made a nice profit without having these commercials, yet now they cannot live without them."
Nothing ever changes, never. Costs never go up. Revenue never goes down. There are no alternative to a movie theater and never will be.
Apple used to be part of the "in" crowd here so you may not want the old "good old days".
I suggest the period right after the famous Nomad comparison. The Apple hate is nice and fresh.
Skype is a lot like Flash when it comes to slashbots.
Before Apple said "no Flash on our devices" Flash was absolutely worthless and evil.
As soon as Apple said no Flash on their devices Flash was a saint in the process of being martyred by evil tech-heathens.
So in any other context (or previous threads) Skype is the epitome of the corruptness and wastefulness (OMG it uses bandwidth even when you're not talking!!!) of closed source. Now that it is available to the droidbois it is the symbol of freedom, sticking to the (telecom) man.