Could bonding play a part in the appearance that blue collar workers swear more than white collar workers?
I think you may have hit the nail right on the head. From my teens until my mid-20's, I worked back and forth between various construction and factory jobs (mason, carpenter, machinist and assembly line worker) until the late age of 26, I enlisted in the Navy and became an Electronics Technician and post-Navy I work as a Systems Analyst/Systems Integration Specialist, anyway, I install and troubleshoot various electro-mechanical systems that are usually connected to PC's/networks or other computing equipment that most people wouldn't think of as computers, most contract houses sell me as a "Multi-skilled technician," so I tend to be a striped collar worker and interface well between blue collar and white collar workers.
To quote Bill Cosby, "Now, I told you THAT story to tell you THIS one." I just figured a little background would lend more credence to the following:
It does seem that there is more camaraderie with blue collar workers where a workers position is very well defined and their advancement in position is primarily based on experience/skill level as opposed say non-professional office workers (the bulk of which seem to be fairly interchangeable document processors.) In the blue collar environment, there is a noticeable skill level difference between a tradesman with 2/5/10/20 years of experience so that there is less politicking needed for advancement in position, making for a more informal and less guarded-tongue environment, besides the addition of the common enemy syndrome (us workers vs. "THE MAN.") Where in white collar office workers there is little difference between someone who has been processing documents for 5 years or 20 years, so most advancement, say to management, requires verbal jousting and politics (not even counting those who interface with customers or children.) I would say the same goes with enlisted and commissioned service members.
Forgive me for being overly simplistic, I'm just trying to be as concise as I can make it. FAIL.
Interesting... I would like to use a mod point to mod you up, but this discussion is so far off-topic I cannot bring myself to do so. Although OT, cursing/swearing is something I have paid attention to for some amount of time in my life and will instead provide my observations.
I have primarily noticed that most swear/curse words used in normal conversation are used as adjectives or adverbs to place emphasis. Not to say that they are not used as nouns, but usually when they are, it is in the context of a pejorative. I have noticed that those who use swearing in normal language, in many cases, hardly even notice that they are doing so.
I have been considered to be fairly well read and personally enjoy adding new words to my vocabulary in order to employ them in conversation and writing. I choose to avoid using swear words as a point of professionalism. But, in life, I have spent significant time amongst those who are not/do not. I am not sure if it is a cultural thing or not. I have been around and have found this swearing behavior prominent in the following societies: construction workers, factory workers, most enlisted military members, bikers, music/drug related cultures, proto-criminals (sorry, I don't hang out with real criminals, but have known people who, some time after I stopped hanging out with them, became so) and significantly less to nil with office workers, military officers and various professionals. When I mix with the first group and I talk in a manner that I prefer, I come across as "pompous and faggy" (to steal from Idiocracy) and with the second group as erudite and well spoken.
I tell my nieces that those who swear a lot just don't really know that many words or are uncomfortable using them. To me, it comes across as a distinct lack of elegant variation and an anti-intellectualistic mentality.
Huh? When I was 12, I was programming in assembler.
Huh? When I was 11 I was bitbanging RS-232 at 300bps using a telegraph straight key. Got to the point where I could emulate a TTY well enough that I could launch vi and edit a file. We won't go into my privilege escalation exploits... ah, misspent youth.
Luxury. When I was 11 we used to dream of 300bps. We had to whistle FSK sounds directly into the 110bps modem, and if we failed two sign-ons in a row our teachers would thrash us with their belts.
Well, when I was 11 we had to mind link with our living quarters nano-bot hivemind just to get the wall display to turn on the ultra-porn and we only did that for the ironic nostalgia of it when we're bored of watching the 3D vids on our retinal implants. Pardon me, while I matter make up some popcorn and consider uploading myself to the compumatter dyson sphere or just getting that extra thumb on each hand upgrade, I hear it only takes a minute. TTFN, apeman.
I have always seen Trickle-down economics being analogous to the Broken Window Fallacy. Where instead of the destruction property causing a net loss, it is the monies withheld by those who earn without creating new value creates the net loss. For example: rich guy earns $100 through shear power of ownership vs. creation of new value and spends $99 employing others to create value for him, that equals a $1 loss to the economy.
Organizations do not ever inherently create new value, it always takes a person, organizations can only potentially increase the efficiency with which a person can create new value.
Any person who does not create new value/knowledge, increase the efficiency of others who do create new value, maintain previously created value from degrading back to the chaos that it originated from or facilitate the promulgation of created value to support increased quality of life for any of these mentioned members of society is leeching off society. I'm pointing my finger at those who make their living purely from ownership or usury.
The scientist who invents internal combustion - creates value the engineer who designs cars - creates value/increases efficiency the automobile line worker who builds the car - creates value the automobile line supervisor - increases efficiency of creation of value the car lot salesman - facilitates promulgation of value the auto mechanic - maintains created value the auto company stock holder who lives off their dividends - creates no new value the bank who lends the end user the money to buy the car for a fee - creates no new value the insurance company for whom no claim is never made on the respective policy - creates no new value
I leave it to you and your philosophy to determine what members of society net a positive for this our society.
I did say "trying." I did not say that they were effective, hence the "disorganized." I would be more prone to consistently vote Democratic if they would take a more hardline stance on the issues they deem important. Instead, in the interest of perceived as cooperative, they allow their legislation to be watered down to practically uselessness. My observations are summaries of what any outsider thinks of each of the major parties. Between the two major parties (R and D), the Dems are the "other" party, the GOP is full of "drank the Kool-aid" believers and the Dems are full those who disagree with most to the GOP policies, not to say it doesn't go both ways a certain amount. They have both taken opposite stances on so many positions that, to me, neither seems rational.
Hell, I've been voting for almost 20 years and can think of very few times I was able to vote FOR a candidate and not just against. There just seems to be no place for a fiscal conservative/social liberal, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage, pro-choice, anti-discrimination (but, anti-affirmative action), pro-privacy, pro-marijuana, anti-locking up non-violent offenders, anti-war, meat eating, atheist, veteran of two wars, small business owning voter who reveres the Bill of Rights.
Agreed. I, also, agree with the opinion that if corporations were actually people, they would be diagnosed a sociopaths.
The worst part is that early article incorporations in the US were only approved by the government temporarily to accomplish goals for the public good. It was designed that way to avoid a US government sanctioned East India Company, fundamentally, a governmental style tyrannical world power not answerable to its members. Now it seems as though we are surrounded by them.
It used to be "Knowledge is power," now it is more like: Profit is power.
Hell, what do I know? It was probably always that way.
I would have referred to a previous comment of mine but the difficulties of the/. systems interferes. anyway (although I do not dispute your observations):
Republicans = corporations + mainstream religion Democrats = a bunch of disorganized do-gooders that each have their own concept of what is "just" and try to shove it down your throat Libertarians = every person is king/queen of their castle/bailiwick (it's OK if corporations are considered a "person" in this context)
personally I think more people are interested in politics (their local sports team is "their" team) vs. appropriate governance.
Not that I have ever done any such a thing, but I always thought it to be more interesting if you were to cut out bologna letters for this malicious prank. I hear mustard works well, too. Additionally, cramming sardines into their hood vent air intakes (that goes to the cab heat/AC) or even dead fish behind their hubcaps were also interesting concepts to me.
Once again, I have never done these things and bear no responsibility for any one who takes this comment out of it's informational context and does them. Personally, I just am not that mean spirited and if I have a problem with someone I prefer direct face-to-face legal confrontation.
I had a similar experience with the book. I was able to lay my hands on a copy almost 20 years ago (late teens almost 20ish) and generally was not very impressed with the information in it. I spent my early to mid-teens doing a lot of model rocketry and making my own fireworks.
The FM 21-76 is a great book. I would also suggest the "Improvised Munitions Black Book" and "The Poor Man's James Bond" for more effective content.
Disclaimer: I bear no responsibility for any persons usage of the information I have related in this comment. I have never used any of the information I have gotten from the books I have read in any destructive or disruptive manner.
shining (footnote? multiply?) Shining movie? shining ast (good luck with that, buddy) ohh, shining star (who, but a child/non-literati calls an asterisk a star? no insult intended to parent.)
I was hooked on "The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments" back in the early 80's, it was in my elementary school library. I have a PDF copy on my PC just for the nostalgia of it.
It does have a few questionable practices that I would not suggest to a child 'tho, for example:
page 17: "Do not bring test tube up to your nose for smelling. Instead, waft the odors toward you with your hand."
Page 43: "1. Bases Taste Brackish. Dissolve 5 g (1teaspoon) lye in 50 ml water, drop 5 drops of solution in glass of water. Dip finger in this highly diluted base. Taste drop on finger tip."
I count myself lucky growing up that I had an Uncle that is an Electronics Engineer, an Uncle that is a PHD Pharmacist + Bachelors History Teaching and a Dad that was an Automobile Mechanic and really into construction (I grew up working on cars and pouring cement.) I ended up doing various construction and factory work (lots of machining) until I joined the Navy at 26 to be an Electronics Technician and taught myself PC building and repair while on my two tours overseas. I always got the sweetest hand-me-downs from my Uncles, Radioshack 100-in-Ones, Oscilloscopes, signal generators, chemistry sets, microscopes. I would buy legos, erector sets, chemistry sets, lawnmower engines and RC anything at yard sales, got into model rocketry, made my own fireworks and all sorts of stuff that would give parents nowadays a heartattack if they caught their kid doing unsupervised. Just thinking about how many times I made my room stink like rotten eggs makes me smile. Made a go-cart with wood, bicycle wheels and gears and a lawn mower engine nailed to a plank. LOL
The proper use of WD-40 on say a bearing is to spray it into the bearing and work the bearing, continue doing so until it sprays clean, then use compressed air to force the WD-40 out of the bearing and then apply a real lubricant like grease, 3in1 oil or such depending on the application and bearing type. If you use WD-40 as a lubricant it will attract dirt and dry out, your bearings will wear out faster and be pitted.
With many greased bearings the grease performs multiple jobs: lubrication/friction heat reduction and prevention of water and dirt intrusion.
The joke is, if people are really determined to pay for their email, they can buy a domain name for about $3 a month at somewhere like godaddy and other registrars, and then you also have a domain name, which is what I recommend to people who are even slightly internet savey. The idea of someone paying $9 a month just for email is insane.
Totally, unfortunately most of my customers tend to be user savy and already some sort of web presence/experience. I get a lot of recent or close to retirees, who are used to whatever they used computers for in business or work and usually want to start paying bills and make purchases online. While, I do ensure their OS' is updated, firewalled, AVed and so forth, I tend, for many, to spend a lot of time talking about good password practices, looking for HTTPS for logins, checking amazon/ebay customer ratings and having dummy email accounts for iffy sites that require registration.
The funny thing is when I started CRTs were king and pretty much all PC's were on a desktop, I spent a lot of time talking about ergonomics. I'd look at their setup and to me I just saw pain. CRT's set on 60Hz, mice with no pads or those paper thin pads (no wrist pad), mice that you have to almost fully extend your arm to use, keyboard right in front of a high sharp edge, screens angled upward and spring back chairs so soft you might as well be sitting on a stool,.
The worst part back then was PC's were so much slower, so it took 4-6 whole hours to download and install everything they needed, nowadays it only takes like 1 1/2 - 2 and I spend the rest of the time talking and tweaking.
I do home and small business IT. I also happen to be lucky enough to live in an area with multiple cable and DSL providers. With almost every customer I have had over the last 5 years, I've had the discussion on why the ISPs "give" away free email address' and that is to lock them in, as we all know it is as much of a pain in the ass to change your email address as to change your phone number. I have tried to migrate every one of them to one of the free non-ISP emails. Most seem to understand my point that they should not allow an essentially free product to influence their value for dollar comparison shopping, but many still persist in retaining their comcast/aol emails because they find the changeover to be daunting and never end up considering the other providers because of it.
I have to agree and would add that in the US while you can find goods at a lower price, most of the price on the goods that most people buy is paying for the branding (and sometimes quality.) It is for this reason you can pay anywhere between $.99 to $8 for a box of pasta (same weight) or similar for a loaf of bread. Actually, a more perfect example would be non-prescription drugs, just compare the prices on generic Phenylephrine and Sudafed. It is the same thing but people still buy the name brand.
There are hygiene regulations, but they are pretty much unenforceable. In the UCMJ, there is a regulation stating a service member cannot engage in sodomy and the military definition of sodomy is: any act that is not penis to vagina, therefore no oral sex. If there was a regulation stating you had to wipe you ass clean to a specified degree, who is going to check it?
It is generally all set up as a big CYA/Catch-22 where you can do very little without breaking a rule, therefore only certain rules are enforced, unless someone is trying to nail someone else. For example, nailing someone for being out of uniform for having a dirty uniform right after doing some dirty/nasty job.
The default coffin nails being 133 and 134, conduct unbecoming and general article.
Funny, I didn't think of what I posted that way, but under no circumstances was I ever known by anyone I lived with as a stinky bastard. Just observant.
It is worse than you think. I was forward deployed in the US Navy in both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. We were in a tin can for 7 months at a time. Now, there are rules and regulations set up for punishable offenses that would be passed down upon the offenders. But, what happens when someone stinks and refuses to brush their teeth or shower.
First, people put up with it, then people start telling the person about it, "You stink, take a shower!" Then, that person is migrated out of critical positions and made to do the crappy work. Then, at this point this persons sleeping arrangement starts stinking and affects others racks, people start screaming at them every day and offering physical violence (waiting for them to take them up on it) as everyone has been talking about them behind their back. This person has been excluded from anything important, at some point people start to daily take everything not nailed down/locked up of theirs in their rack and throws it in the shower and turns the water on and walks away (all pretty anonymous.) Then, at some point people start looking for anything they can nail this person with regulations-wise and turn them in for any little fault (5 seconds late, out of uniform for having dirt on it from working, etc...)
I, personally, have never been a part of the last few, but I had a young sailor I outranked and was in charge of who wouldn't brush his teeth before showing up to work. I put up with it for a while (Would you like a mint? No, really, have a mint.), then I said something, then I yelled at him for a week, then I marched him down the ships store to buy a toothbrush and toothpaste and made him keep it in our workspace. I then, every day for a month, made him brush his teeth in front of me.
I didn't like to do it, it was so stupid and a waste of my time, but I was hoping to save him from the later options.
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Could bonding play a part in the appearance that blue collar workers swear more than white collar workers?
I think you may have hit the nail right on the head. From my teens until my mid-20's, I worked back and forth between various construction and factory jobs (mason, carpenter, machinist and assembly line worker) until the late age of 26, I enlisted in the Navy and became an Electronics Technician and post-Navy I work as a Systems Analyst/Systems Integration Specialist, anyway, I install and troubleshoot various electro-mechanical systems that are usually connected to PC's/networks or other computing equipment that most people wouldn't think of as computers, most contract houses sell me as a "Multi-skilled technician," so I tend to be a striped collar worker and interface well between blue collar and white collar workers.
To quote Bill Cosby, "Now, I told you THAT story to tell you THIS one." I just figured a little background would lend more credence to the following:
It does seem that there is more camaraderie with blue collar workers where a workers position is very well defined and their advancement in position is primarily based on experience/skill level as opposed say non-professional office workers (the bulk of which seem to be fairly interchangeable document processors.) In the blue collar environment, there is a noticeable skill level difference between a tradesman with 2/5/10/20 years of experience so that there is less politicking needed for advancement in position, making for a more informal and less guarded-tongue environment, besides the addition of the common enemy syndrome (us workers vs. "THE MAN.") Where in white collar office workers there is little difference between someone who has been processing documents for 5 years or 20 years, so most advancement, say to management, requires verbal jousting and politics (not even counting those who interface with customers or children.) I would say the same goes with enlisted and commissioned service members.
Forgive me for being overly simplistic, I'm just trying to be as concise as I can make it. FAIL.
Interesting... I would like to use a mod point to mod you up, but this discussion is so far off-topic I cannot bring myself to do so. Although OT, cursing/swearing is something I have paid attention to for some amount of time in my life and will instead provide my observations.
I have primarily noticed that most swear/curse words used in normal conversation are used as adjectives or adverbs to place emphasis. Not to say that they are not used as nouns, but usually when they are, it is in the context of a pejorative. I have noticed that those who use swearing in normal language, in many cases, hardly even notice that they are doing so.
I have been considered to be fairly well read and personally enjoy adding new words to my vocabulary in order to employ them in conversation and writing. I choose to avoid using swear words as a point of professionalism. But, in life, I have spent significant time amongst those who are not/do not. I am not sure if it is a cultural thing or not. I have been around and have found this swearing behavior prominent in the following societies: construction workers, factory workers, most enlisted military members, bikers, music/drug related cultures, proto-criminals (sorry, I don't hang out with real criminals, but have known people who, some time after I stopped hanging out with them, became so) and significantly less to nil with office workers, military officers and various professionals. When I mix with the first group and I talk in a manner that I prefer, I come across as "pompous and faggy" (to steal from Idiocracy) and with the second group as erudite and well spoken.
I tell my nieces that those who swear a lot just don't really know that many words or are uncomfortable using them. To me, it comes across as a distinct lack of elegant variation and an anti-intellectualistic mentality.
Huh? When I was 12, I was programming in assembler.
Huh? When I was 11 I was bitbanging RS-232 at 300bps using a telegraph straight key. Got to the point where I could emulate a TTY well enough that I could launch vi and edit a file. We won't go into my privilege escalation exploits... ah, misspent youth.
Luxury. When I was 11 we used to dream of 300bps. We had to whistle FSK sounds directly into the 110bps modem, and if we failed two sign-ons in a row our teachers would thrash us with their belts.
Well, when I was 11 we had to mind link with our living quarters nano-bot hivemind just to get the wall display to turn on the ultra-porn and we only did that for the ironic nostalgia of it when we're bored of watching the 3D vids on our retinal implants. Pardon me, while I matter make up some popcorn and consider uploading myself to the compumatter dyson sphere or just getting that extra thumb on each hand upgrade, I hear it only takes a minute. TTFN, apeman.
To add to your point:
I have always seen Trickle-down economics being analogous to the Broken Window Fallacy. Where instead of the destruction property causing a net loss, it is the monies withheld by those who earn without creating new value creates the net loss. For example: rich guy earns $100 through shear power of ownership vs. creation of new value and spends $99 employing others to create value for him, that equals a $1 loss to the economy.
Organizations do not ever inherently create new value, it always takes a person, organizations can only potentially increase the efficiency with which a person can create new value.
Any person who does not create new value/knowledge, increase the efficiency of others who do create new value, maintain previously created value from degrading back to the chaos that it originated from or facilitate the promulgation of created value to support increased quality of life for any of these mentioned members of society is leeching off society. I'm pointing my finger at those who make their living purely from ownership or usury.
The scientist who invents internal combustion - creates value
the engineer who designs cars - creates value/increases efficiency
the automobile line worker who builds the car - creates value
the automobile line supervisor - increases efficiency of creation of value
the car lot salesman - facilitates promulgation of value
the auto mechanic - maintains created value
the auto company stock holder who lives off their dividends - creates no new value
the bank who lends the end user the money to buy the car for a fee - creates no new value
the insurance company for whom no claim is never made on the respective policy - creates no new value
I leave it to you and your philosophy to determine what members of society net a positive for this our society.
I did say "trying." I did not say that they were effective, hence the "disorganized." I would be more prone to consistently vote Democratic if they would take a more hardline stance on the issues they deem important. Instead, in the interest of perceived as cooperative, they allow their legislation to be watered down to practically uselessness. My observations are summaries of what any outsider thinks of each of the major parties. Between the two major parties (R and D), the Dems are the "other" party, the GOP is full of "drank the Kool-aid" believers and the Dems are full those who disagree with most to the GOP policies, not to say it doesn't go both ways a certain amount. They have both taken opposite stances on so many positions that, to me, neither seems rational.
Hell, I've been voting for almost 20 years and can think of very few times I was able to vote FOR a candidate and not just against. There just seems to be no place for a fiscal conservative/social liberal, pro-gun, pro-gay marriage, pro-choice, anti-discrimination (but, anti-affirmative action), pro-privacy, pro-marijuana, anti-locking up non-violent offenders, anti-war, meat eating, atheist, veteran of two wars, small business owning voter who reveres the Bill of Rights.
Agreed. I, also, agree with the opinion that if corporations were actually people, they would be diagnosed a sociopaths.
The worst part is that early article incorporations in the US were only approved by the government temporarily to accomplish goals for the public good. It was designed that way to avoid a US government sanctioned East India Company, fundamentally, a governmental style tyrannical world power not answerable to its members. Now it seems as though we are surrounded by them.
It used to be "Knowledge is power," now it is more like: Profit is power.
Hell, what do I know? It was probably always that way.
Not to demean anything you said, I would suggest that the most relevant number would be "percentage of GDP" vs. the absolute or the "per capita."
I would have referred to a previous comment of mine but the difficulties of the /. systems interferes. anyway (although I do not dispute your observations):
Republicans = corporations + mainstream religion
Democrats = a bunch of disorganized do-gooders that each have their own concept of what is "just" and try to shove it down your throat
Libertarians = every person is king/queen of their castle/bailiwick (it's OK if corporations are considered a "person" in this context)
personally I think more people are interested in politics (their local sports team is "their" team) vs. appropriate governance.
That doesn't even take into account:
mad = insane
I would say:
-1 + -1 = sounds good amongst people you don't really know, sound bad amongst those who are worth knowing
Not that I have ever done any such a thing, but I always thought it to be more interesting if you were to cut out bologna letters for this malicious prank. I hear mustard works well, too. Additionally, cramming sardines into their hood vent air intakes (that goes to the cab heat/AC) or even dead fish behind their hubcaps were also interesting concepts to me.
Once again, I have never done these things and bear no responsibility for any one who takes this comment out of it's informational context and does them. Personally, I just am not that mean spirited and if I have a problem with someone I prefer direct face-to-face legal confrontation.
I had a similar experience with the book. I was able to lay my hands on a copy almost 20 years ago (late teens almost 20ish) and generally was not very impressed with the information in it. I spent my early to mid-teens doing a lot of model rocketry and making my own fireworks.
The FM 21-76 is a great book. I would also suggest the "Improvised Munitions Black Book" and "The Poor Man's James Bond" for more effective content.
Disclaimer: I bear no responsibility for any persons usage of the information I have related in this comment. I have never used any of the information I have gotten from the books I have read in any destructive or disruptive manner.
lol, same here. My progression:
shining (footnote? multiply?)
Shining movie?
shining ast (good luck with that, buddy)
ohh, shining star (who, but a child/non-literati calls an asterisk a star? no insult intended to parent.)
I was hooked on "The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments" back in the early 80's, it was in my elementary school library. I have a PDF copy on my PC just for the nostalgia of it.
http://chemistry.about.com/library/goldenchem.pdf
It does have a few questionable practices that I would not suggest to a child 'tho, for example:
page 17:
"Do not bring test tube up to your nose for smelling. Instead, waft the odors toward you with your hand."
Page 43:
"1. Bases Taste Brackish.
Dissolve 5 g (1teaspoon) lye in 50 ml water, drop 5 drops of solution in glass of water. Dip finger in this highly diluted base. Taste drop on finger tip."
I count myself lucky growing up that I had an Uncle that is an Electronics Engineer, an Uncle that is a PHD Pharmacist + Bachelors History Teaching and a Dad that was an Automobile Mechanic and really into construction (I grew up working on cars and pouring cement.) I ended up doing various construction and factory work (lots of machining) until I joined the Navy at 26 to be an Electronics Technician and taught myself PC building and repair while on my two tours overseas. I always got the sweetest hand-me-downs from my Uncles, Radioshack 100-in-Ones, Oscilloscopes, signal generators, chemistry sets, microscopes. I would buy legos, erector sets, chemistry sets, lawnmower engines and RC anything at yard sales, got into model rocketry, made my own fireworks and all sorts of stuff that would give parents nowadays a heartattack if they caught their kid doing unsupervised. Just thinking about how many times I made my room stink like rotten eggs makes me smile. Made a go-cart with wood, bicycle wheels and gears and a lawn mower engine nailed to a plank. LOL
The proper use of WD-40 on say a bearing is to spray it into the bearing and work the bearing, continue doing so until it sprays clean, then use compressed air to force the WD-40 out of the bearing and then apply a real lubricant like grease, 3in1 oil or such depending on the application and bearing type. If you use WD-40 as a lubricant it will attract dirt and dry out, your bearings will wear out faster and be pitted.
With many greased bearings the grease performs multiple jobs: lubrication/friction heat reduction and prevention of water and dirt intrusion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grease_(lubricant)
But at least they caught autism naturally.
Where are the usernames in the minimized/one-line comments? How am I supposed to limit wasting my time on AC's?
Also, Why does it make me fight with it to get ALL the comments on the page at first load?
The joke is, if people are really determined to pay for their email, they can buy a domain name for about $3 a month at somewhere like godaddy and other registrars, and then you also have a domain name, which is what I recommend to people who are even slightly internet savey. The idea of someone paying $9 a month just for email is insane.
Totally, unfortunately most of my customers tend to be user savy and already some sort of web presence/experience. I get a lot of recent or close to retirees, who are used to whatever they used computers for in business or work and usually want to start paying bills and make purchases online. While, I do ensure their OS' is updated, firewalled, AVed and so forth, I tend, for many, to spend a lot of time talking about good password practices, looking for HTTPS for logins, checking amazon/ebay customer ratings and having dummy email accounts for iffy sites that require registration.
The funny thing is when I started CRTs were king and pretty much all PC's were on a desktop, I spent a lot of time talking about ergonomics. I'd look at their setup and to me I just saw pain. CRT's set on 60Hz, mice with no pads or those paper thin pads (no wrist pad), mice that you have to almost fully extend your arm to use, keyboard right in front of a high sharp edge, screens angled upward and spring back chairs so soft you might as well be sitting on a stool,.
The worst part back then was PC's were so much slower, so it took 4-6 whole hours to download and install everything they needed, nowadays it only takes like 1 1/2 - 2 and I spend the rest of the time talking and tweaking.
I do home and small business IT. I also happen to be lucky enough to live in an area with multiple cable and DSL providers. With almost every customer I have had over the last 5 years, I've had the discussion on why the ISPs "give" away free email address' and that is to lock them in, as we all know it is as much of a pain in the ass to change your email address as to change your phone number. I have tried to migrate every one of them to one of the free non-ISP emails. Most seem to understand my point that they should not allow an essentially free product to influence their value for dollar comparison shopping, but many still persist in retaining their comcast/aol emails because they find the changeover to be daunting and never end up considering the other providers because of it.
I have to agree and would add that in the US while you can find goods at a lower price, most of the price on the goods that most people buy is paying for the branding (and sometimes quality.) It is for this reason you can pay anywhere between $.99 to $8 for a box of pasta (same weight) or similar for a loaf of bread. Actually, a more perfect example would be non-prescription drugs, just compare the prices on generic Phenylephrine and Sudafed. It is the same thing but people still buy the name brand.
sorry to double reply.
There are hygiene regulations, but they are pretty much unenforceable. In the UCMJ, there is a regulation stating a service member cannot engage in sodomy and the military definition of sodomy is: any act that is not penis to vagina, therefore no oral sex. If there was a regulation stating you had to wipe you ass clean to a specified degree, who is going to check it?
It is generally all set up as a big CYA/Catch-22 where you can do very little without breaking a rule, therefore only certain rules are enforced, unless someone is trying to nail someone else. For example, nailing someone for being out of uniform for having a dirty uniform right after doing some dirty/nasty job.
The default coffin nails being 133 and 134, conduct unbecoming and general article.
Funny, I didn't think of what I posted that way, but under no circumstances was I ever known by anyone I lived with as a stinky bastard. Just observant.
It is worse than you think. I was forward deployed in the US Navy in both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. We were in a tin can for 7 months at a time. Now, there are rules and regulations set up for punishable offenses that would be passed down upon the offenders. But, what happens when someone stinks and refuses to brush their teeth or shower.
First, people put up with it, then people start telling the person about it, "You stink, take a shower!" Then, that person is migrated out of critical positions and made to do the crappy work. Then, at this point this persons sleeping arrangement starts stinking and affects others racks, people start screaming at them every day and offering physical violence (waiting for them to take them up on it) as everyone has been talking about them behind their back. This person has been excluded from anything important, at some point people start to daily take everything not nailed down/locked up of theirs in their rack and throws it in the shower and turns the water on and walks away (all pretty anonymous.) Then, at some point people start looking for anything they can nail this person with regulations-wise and turn them in for any little fault (5 seconds late, out of uniform for having dirt on it from working, etc...)
I, personally, have never been a part of the last few, but I had a young sailor I outranked and was in charge of who wouldn't brush his teeth before showing up to work. I put up with it for a while (Would you like a mint? No, really, have a mint.), then I said something, then I yelled at him for a week, then I marched him down the ships store to buy a toothbrush and toothpaste and made him keep it in our workspace. I then, every day for a month, made him brush his teeth in front of me.
I didn't like to do it, it was so stupid and a waste of my time, but I was hoping to save him from the later options.
I didn't know being French was a race, I thought it was a country or a culture. That must make it racist to rag on an USian.
more like: You feature bugs...
"Global Biological War", but i remember that the only way to win is not to play it.
I guess you could also say "the only way to play is by winning"
citation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Legend_(novel)