The point is that if you are an IT professional, to complain that something is "too complicated" is pretty weak. If everything were simple, you would have no job - everyone could be sysadmins, coders, etc.
Take a look at any sufficiently advanced history book (mostly college textbooks, as high school based texts don't delve into enough detail). It's not easy to dig up, primarily becuase it's nothing but a curious footnote in history. There were free African Americans in America since the revolution, Crispus Attucks (while mulatto, that was still considered "black" by people of the period) was not a slave. If any free black decided to go into farming, at least in the south, he couldn't compete without slaves. Right or wrong, the economic fact was that if all your competition had a huge force of laborers that cost them nothing but food and shelter, and you had none or hired help, you would never make any money. So yes, some free blacks *did* own slaves. Some of them were never slaves and did not have the aversion to it, and what makes you think just because someone was previously oppressed they suddenly gain new moral insight when freed? I'm sure some considered themselves "successful" simply from the fact that they had made enough money to afford slaves of their own.
Tribal societies don't count? They got along fine as farmers and hunter gatherers. Colonization over complicated things, and left vacuums that are now the anarchistic conditions we see today. The point is that *other* countries were the ones fucking things up. The original inhabitants were not so sophisticated, but they knew not to destroy their own back yard.
In other regions, like Kenya and the former colony of Rhodesia more political factors come to play. The theft and abuse perpetrated by dictators who took advantage of the vacuum created during the pullout of colonial government set the stage for decades of warlords and conflict.
Umm, what the hell are you disagreeing with? You just told me to to pull my head out of my ass, then proceeded to reiterate my point exactly.
The crux of the matter is that when you talk about the poor conditions in just about any region of Africa (aside from the extreme north), almost all o fthose poor conditions did not exist until industrialized European countries and the United States decided to change them into colonies or banana republics to benefited their own economy at the expense of the African ones.
Because it's no more secure than telnet if your local script kiddies have the right tools.
Don't believe me? Take a look at Ettercap> . Does a great Man-in-the-middle attack and is so trivial to use the most brain-dead script kiddy could master it in 10 minutes.
I always figured that the April 1 stories are nothing but an excuse for the editors to get back at people like you.
Frankly, I'm amazed that there are so many people reliant upon slashdot. You might want to think about all the other days you're dissing the regualr stuff before bitching that you want it back now.
I'd like to see the submission queue opened up so people could vote on which submissions they'd like to see added.
Perhaps you should rephrase that to:
I'd like to see the submission queue opened up so it can become a toy for trolls and spammers.
Repeat after me: "Slashdot is not K5". Nor will it ever be. It is too huge, and too different. If you want to vote on stories go to kuro5hin and stop bitching.
Far be it from me to deny that CmdrTaco and some of the/. crowd are Debian bigots of good standing, I'm still inclined to defend them on this. The key difference between Debian and the other distributions you mentioned is that Debian is an organization - a non-profit entity. All of the others are companies, and like most companies, they like to keep their internal stuff internal. Debian's foundation is in openness, and not just of the source variety. What news do the commercial distros release about themselves other than new releases or earnings reports.
Also, the nature of Debian's protocols and the fact that anyone can become familiar with them without becoming a part of the project provokes a ridiculous amount of "armchair developers". That, in and of itself, is a lot of the reason people submit these things to slashdot, whether they are involved or not.
Hell, compared to Debian proper, Progeny's Mozilla is bleeding edge. In Debian's unstable (i.e. latest and greatest) tree, we're still using friggin M18...
About the only thing impressive about that was him porting the game.
People think the 01d sk001 h4x0rs were so skilled because they cracked boxes "back in the day".
Does it never occur to you how frigging easy it was to break into *anything* at that time (PDP4!!)? Security was rarely an issue for anyone and when it was, it was done poorly. The social engineering was impressive, but compromising a system was relatively simple for anyone who had any experience with the systems (that doesn't connatate a guru to me...).
Yeah, I'm sure that in Lucas's world, all the young jedi ran around looking for some poor sucker smoking a cigarette just to beat the shit out of him... verrrry jedi-like.
...the word Jedi came from some zen/buddhist thing originally.
Taoist, to be specific. There was an entire sect of Taoists who believed themselves to be superhuman, possessing several force-like abilities, the most amusing of which was flight.
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I flamed no one, I'm talking about the fact that most /. readers, at the very least, consider themselves computer literate.
/. readers - considering all comments in one of two ways:
Calling my comment a flame shows another unfortunate habit of
- Someone disagrees with me - Flame
- Someone brings up an unpopular viewpoint - Troll
Try and be objective for once in your life.
The point is that if you are an IT professional, to complain that something is "too complicated" is pretty weak. If everything were simple, you would have no job - everyone could be sysadmins, coders, etc.
People are too lazy to learn anything these days.
Yeah, but it makes "first post!"'s a thing of the past.
Take a look at any sufficiently advanced history book (mostly college textbooks, as high school based texts don't delve into enough detail). It's not easy to dig up, primarily becuase it's nothing but a curious footnote in history. There were free African Americans in America since the revolution, Crispus Attucks (while mulatto, that was still considered "black" by people of the period) was not a slave. If any free black decided to go into farming, at least in the south, he couldn't compete without slaves. Right or wrong, the economic fact was that if all your competition had a huge force of laborers that cost them nothing but food and shelter, and you had none or hired help, you would never make any money. So yes, some free blacks *did* own slaves. Some of them were never slaves and did not have the aversion to it, and what makes you think just because someone was previously oppressed they suddenly gain new moral insight when freed? I'm sure some considered themselves "successful" simply from the fact that they had made enough money to afford slaves of their own.
No, it's more like a competence thing. Only PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING(tm) edit config files...
Just search google for "Ritalin brain atrophy". You'll find scores....
Umm, you guys do know that Ritalin causes brain atrophy, right...?
That's probably one of the better distro analogies I've seen yet.
Tribal societies don't count? They got along fine as farmers and hunter gatherers. Colonization over complicated things, and left vacuums that are now the anarchistic conditions we see today. The point is that *other* countries were the ones fucking things up. The original inhabitants were not so sophisticated, but they knew not to destroy their own back yard.
Umm, what the hell are you disagreeing with? You just told me to to pull my head out of my ass, then proceeded to reiterate my point exactly.
The crux of the matter is that when you talk about the poor conditions in just about any region of Africa (aside from the extreme north), almost all o fthose poor conditions did not exist until industrialized European countries and the United States decided to change them into colonies or banana republics to benefited their own economy at the expense of the African ones.
Because it's no more secure than telnet if your local script kiddies have the right tools.
Don't believe me? Take a look at Ettercap> . Does a great Man-in-the-middle attack and is so trivial to use the most brain-dead script kiddy could master it in 10 minutes.
My God. It boggles the mind to think that a "professional" software company like SSH Communications would make such an insanely stupid oversight....
Konq supports ssl just fine. Perhaps you're missing the KDE crypto libs.
I always figured that the April 1 stories are nothing but an excuse for the editors to get back at people like you. Frankly, I'm amazed that there are so many people reliant upon slashdot. You might want to think about all the other days you're dissing the regualr stuff before bitching that you want it back now.
Perhaps you should rephrase that to:
Repeat after me: "Slashdot is not K5". Nor will it ever be. It is too huge, and too different. If you want to vote on stories go to kuro5hin and stop bitching.Far be it from me to deny that CmdrTaco and some of the /. crowd are Debian bigots of good standing, I'm still inclined to defend them on this. The key difference between Debian and the other distributions you mentioned is that Debian is an organization - a non-profit entity. All of the others are companies, and like most companies, they like to keep their internal stuff internal. Debian's foundation is in openness, and not just of the source variety. What news do the commercial distros release about themselves other than new releases or earnings reports.
Also, the nature of Debian's protocols and the fact that anyone can become familiar with them without becoming a part of the project provokes a ridiculous amount of "armchair developers". That, in and of itself, is a lot of the reason people submit these things to slashdot, whether they are involved or not.
Perhaps you have a low tolerance for concentration. The entire *point* of the linkage was the videos.
Oh BTW, poor you. Everyone should get every submission posted so people like you can bitch about how stupid it is.
Hell, compared to Debian proper, Progeny's Mozilla is bleeding edge. In Debian's unstable (i.e. latest and greatest) tree, we're still using friggin M18...
Duh, read the article, not the headline. German courts upheld a ruling against America Online.
Why in the hell would their be an America Online in Germany?
About the only thing impressive about that was him porting the game. People think the 01d sk001 h4x0rs were so skilled because they cracked boxes "back in the day". Does it never occur to you how frigging easy it was to break into *anything* at that time (PDP4!!)? Security was rarely an issue for anyone and when it was, it was done poorly. The social engineering was impressive, but compromising a system was relatively simple for anyone who had any experience with the systems (that doesn't connatate a guru to me...).
Yeah, I'm sure that in Lucas's world, all the young jedi ran around looking for some poor sucker smoking a cigarette just to beat the shit out of him... verrrry jedi-like.
Taoist, to be specific. There was an entire sect of Taoists who believed themselves to be superhuman, possessing several force-like abilities, the most amusing of which was flight.
Needless to say, the trend didn't last long ; )
or they could just buy the damn boxed distribution. Hell, they cost less than most games, which the /. crowd seems to have no trouble affording.
Oh yeah, all the dialup users just love to dedicate a large portion of their week to download a linux distribution.