Christ man, does it even matter? It's a paragraph blurb that passes off the page within a day. I was just bitching about how everything thinks that linux has everything to/. and/. has everything to do with linux. Not that many sites have much about Exchange 2000 mainly because it's a boring product. I doubt they run an article every time there's a new version of sendmail. SO was featured because people expressed an interest in it as the story being posted at all most likely hinged on a horde of people submitting it.
This is such a sickeningly obvious troll, but I'm bored so I guess I'll feed you anyway....
"(feel free to mod this into oblivion--how much of a punishment is it really when your Karma is over 400?)"
Hmm, what a blatant attempt to gain even more karma by using the tried and true "I'm going to get modded down for this..blah blah blah, etc". Whatever...
"Why is this on/.? It is 1) a software release announcement from 2) a closed source company that 3) many people hate because of their attitude to the Free Software community (see: Java)."
Maybe because the heading on every page says "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" not "GNU/SlashDot", "RMS and Friends", or "LinuxOnlyPleaseDot".
Grr... I'm done bitching, and I'm sure your happy your troll got a complaint. Tthat was your only purpose, right? Because I would feel really sorry for you if you actually believed all of the crap you just spouted, sarcastic or no.
Daikatana is just another creative embarrassment in a long line of such writing/designing disasters that are basically making the American video game industry a lot like the Japanese movie industry of days gone by. Except that Godzilla didn't look so blocky.
Heh, I wonder if about 10 years in the future if there will be cult fans of bad games like Japanese Cinema...
"Come on over man, we're gonna get some beer, play some Daikatana and Deerhunter and laugh 'till we puke!"
I appreciate your rosy view of the medevial history, but your statements are not entirely accurate:
"you were under the authority of a lord because this lord had the duty to protect you."
Wrong. That may have been the case much later in the middle ages, but our own Neo-Feudalism is just beginning. Feudalism grew out of fall of the Roman empire. With no organized government to protect them anymore and barbarians running rampant, people flocked to the estates of rich and powerful landowners. For their (the people's) protection, the landowners had them do work, usually farming and took most of their output, letting the serfs keep enough to get by.
There is no such idea of protection in capitalism.
Wrong again. What do you think automobile insurance is? Later the lords forbade the serfs to move from the estate, making one who did so guilty of "theft of services" for lack of a better term. Insurance is the most obvious one (ie it's against the law not to have it, therefore not be "protected"), but other exist in various forms as well. Paid protection is the core of much of the world's business model, 2nd only to pure consumerism.
it was quite standard practice to monitor the packets flying across your hub for stuff that didn't belong there, and retalliate if necessary. Winnuke, bonk, boing, nestea and other such exploits were used by vigilantes to police the network.
No offense, but that doesn't make much sense. If all the "vigilantes" are monitoring for things that don't belong, wouldn't they be smacking each other far more often? That sort of script kiddy nonsense would definately qualify as something that "doesn't belong".
I seem to remember an article awhile back, that detailed sysadmins who track down attackers and crackers of their boxes, obtain their identities and locations if possible, and (If determined not to be minors) then commence to stopping by late at night with baseball bats. Sure, it's *really* illegal, but I bet it's even more effective ; ).
One thing I haven't seen so far (forgive me if I missed a post), is someone advising to simply ask the kids what they want to program. No one starts coding for the sake of coding, they want to create. Just ask them.... If they are into interactive web pages and like, suggest something like perl or python. If they want to make windows apps, maybe vb or delphi would be your best bet. If they like to write (as in words), maybe something like Inform (Interactive Fiction language-remember Infocom?) would be up there alley. It's the the difficulty/accesbility of the language that matters, it's the motivation and reasoning behind learning it that really makes the difference.
I'm assuming you're talking about the logos and such. Here's one for ASUS boards that works on 1 or 2 Giga-Byte boards. If you do some looking, I'm sure you'll find countless others...
oh jeez... I get tired of trolls as much as the next guy, but that was damn good. If you were bitching about some post that had cut and pasted gibberish ad infinitum I would understand, but you're just being pissy. I think it was probably the most creative, well crafted troll I have seen ever. Twas a fable for our times...
I think how the "repression" can be worse is the fact that it breeds even more violence. Right or wrong, the kind of alienation that can follow events like Columbine is usually *much* worse than the same alienation that contributed to the violence in the first place. You start a nazi like pogrom of eliminating the different, you simply create an enviroment where more of the different can potentially go over the edge. The whole Voices from Hellmouth bit isn't just for the geeks, it's for everyone. The key to stopping this kind of violence is understanding it. The victims and their families deserve recognition, but many of them are so traumitized and out of sorts over the whole affair that their own proposed methods of "control" will simply create even more victims. Think about it.
One thing that some of these people who say that FreeNet will be a huge child porn, warez, mp3, etc repository seem to forget that even within the existing internet, popularity *usually* governs the viewership of material. With the voting system of freenet that is even more true. It seems that FreeNet will be most accurately represented by its users. If it's filled with child pornagraphers, it will most likely be filled with such. If it isn't, then the occasional bit of objectionable material will eventually expire. The same goes for anything else. The same goes for warez and mp3's. The Internet began (not really at the beginning, but it blossomed) through community effort and opinion. Maybe freenet will bring back some of what the internet used to be.
I think most of the pro-IE camp's point is that most anti-ms people absolutely *ignored* the the standards, and just touted off about how great ns was even though it supported about 20% of the 4.0 standard while IE supported 80%. Now that the ant-ms bandwagon folks have mozilla, suddenly they're all talking about standards that they didn't even think were all that necessary unless you can use them in linux... I'm sure if there were proprietary tags just for linux the zealots wouldn't have a problem with that, eh?
javascript?? That's netscapes bandwagon, not IE's, and as said further up in the thread, msie only web pages were for those who actually *use* CSS and HTML4. Know your facts before you accuse
...how would he secure a server? he hasn't touched a computer for 5 years. I'm sure he's still a security expert, but 5 years is a long time in computer years. As much as I hate to burst your bubble, it's the general opinion that Mitnick wasn't really this dreaded security expert. He knew his way around VMS and DEC UNIX, but most of his exploits (ie adventures) were nothing but exploits (ie sploits...). Almost everything he did was based on social engineering (you wanna call him an expert at something, then choose that) and the Chaos Computer Club's loginout patch. Honestly, if he did still have criminal intent, keeping him away from tech wouldn't stop him, he could rob billions just with his landline phone... no high technology involved in a rob-the-old-folks telemarketing operation....
Before you dismiss Keirsey as some crackpot, I suggest you read some of his other material. He is one of the most respected psychologists in the country. Plus, his suggested treatment for children misdiagnosed with A.D.D. makes a hell of a lot more sense than pumping them full of Ritalin.
Some people in real life are also forced to contend with acting in an obnoxious manner. If you want to embrace the whole escapism thing, why not do it right? Personally, I see being obnoxious as much of a shortcoming as shyness or ugliness, and it is a disability in its own right.
If one has no friends, why not embrace the confidence of anonymity to act as someone who deserves respect, and therefore gain popularity. I'm sure most people who don't acheive such in real life still believe that if freed from their shortcomings, they could be as such.
ADD is the most inaccurately diagnosed disorder in the nation (US -- no international stats, sorry).
Apparently, kids in Europe must be "immune" to ADD; there are little to no diagnoses of it there at all. ADD is something America specific, most of the rest of the world sees it as bad science.
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Christ man, does it even matter? It's a paragraph blurb that passes off the page within a day. I was just bitching about how everything thinks that linux has everything to /. and /. has everything to do with linux. Not that many sites have much about Exchange 2000 mainly because it's a boring product. I doubt they run an article every time there's a new version of sendmail. SO was featured because people expressed an interest in it as the story being posted at all most likely hinged on a horde of people submitting it.
This is such a sickeningly obvious troll, but I'm bored so I guess I'll feed you anyway....
Hmm, what a blatant attempt to gain even more karma by using the tried and true "I'm going to get modded down for this..blah blah blah, etc". Whatever...
Maybe because the heading on every page says "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" not "GNU/SlashDot", "RMS and Friends", or "LinuxOnlyPleaseDot".
Grr... I'm done bitching, and I'm sure your happy your troll got a complaint. Tthat was your only purpose, right? Because I would feel really sorry for you if you actually believed all of the crap you just spouted, sarcastic or no.
Heh, I wonder if about 10 years in the future if there will be cult fans of bad games like Japanese Cinema...
"Come on over man, we're gonna get some beer, play some Daikatana and Deerhunter and laugh 'till we puke!"
I appreciate your rosy view of the medevial history, but your statements are not entirely accurate:
Wrong. That may have been the case much later in the middle ages, but our own Neo-Feudalism is just beginning. Feudalism grew out of fall of the Roman empire. With no organized government to protect them anymore and barbarians running rampant, people flocked to the estates of rich and powerful landowners. For their (the people's) protection, the landowners had them do work, usually farming and took most of their output, letting the serfs keep enough to get by.
Wrong again. What do you think automobile insurance is? Later the lords forbade the serfs to move from the estate, making one who did so guilty of "theft of services" for lack of a better term. Insurance is the most obvious one (ie it's against the law not to have it, therefore not be "protected"), but other exist in various forms as well. Paid protection is the core of much of the world's business model, 2nd only to pure consumerism.
No offense, but that doesn't make much sense. If all the "vigilantes" are monitoring for things that don't belong, wouldn't they be smacking each other far more often? That sort of script kiddy nonsense would definately qualify as something that "doesn't belong".
I seem to remember an article awhile back, that detailed sysadmins who track down attackers and crackers of their boxes, obtain their identities and locations if possible, and (If determined not to be minors) then commence to stopping by late at night with baseball bats. Sure, it's *really* illegal, but I bet it's even more effective ; ).
One thing I haven't seen so far (forgive me if I missed a post), is someone advising to simply ask the kids what they want to program. No one starts coding for the sake of coding, they want to create. Just ask them.... If they are into interactive web pages and like, suggest something like perl or python. If they want to make windows apps, maybe vb or delphi would be your best bet. If they like to write (as in words), maybe something like Inform (Interactive Fiction language-remember Infocom?) would be up there alley. It's the the difficulty/accesbility of the language that matters, it's the motivation and reasoning behind learning it that really makes the difference.
I'm assuming you're talking about the logos and such. Here's one for ASUS boards that works on 1 or 2 Giga-Byte boards. If you do some looking, I'm sure you'll find countless others...
oh jeez... I get tired of trolls as much as the next guy, but that was damn good. If you were bitching about some post that had cut and pasted gibberish ad infinitum I would understand, but you're just being pissy. I think it was probably the most creative, well crafted troll I have seen ever. Twas a fable for our times...
I think how the "repression" can be worse is the fact that it breeds even more violence. Right or wrong, the kind of alienation that can follow events like Columbine is usually *much* worse than the same alienation that contributed to the violence in the first place. You start a nazi like pogrom of eliminating the different, you simply create an enviroment where more of the different can potentially go over the edge. The whole Voices from Hellmouth bit isn't just for the geeks, it's for everyone. The key to stopping this kind of violence is understanding it. The victims and their families deserve recognition, but many of them are so traumitized and out of sorts over the whole affair that their own proposed methods of "control" will simply create even more victims. Think about it.
Perhaps even better, build the site's community nature and make it self-regulating like /.
Yeah, hot-grits moderation consumers and abusive moderating just might be enough to have WAVE get frustrated and give up.
Great idea!
One thing that some of these people who say that FreeNet will be a huge child porn, warez, mp3, etc repository seem to forget that even within the existing internet, popularity *usually* governs the viewership of material. With the voting system of freenet that is even more true. It seems that FreeNet will be most accurately represented by its users. If it's filled with child pornagraphers, it will most likely be filled with such. If it isn't, then the occasional bit of objectionable material will eventually expire. The same goes for anything else. The same goes for warez and mp3's. The Internet began (not really at the beginning, but it blossomed) through community effort and opinion. Maybe freenet will bring back some of what the internet used to be.
Or you could just copy your USER.DAT and SYSTEM.DAT and accomplish the same thing with much less effort.
This
I think most of the pro-IE camp's point is that most anti-ms people absolutely *ignored* the the standards, and just touted off about how great ns was even though it supported about 20% of the 4.0 standard while IE supported 80%. Now that the ant-ms bandwagon folks have mozilla, suddenly they're all talking about standards that they didn't even think were all that necessary unless you can use them in linux... I'm sure if there were proprietary tags just for linux the zealots wouldn't have a problem with that, eh?
javascript?? That's netscapes bandwagon, not IE's, and as said further up in the thread, msie only web pages were for those who actually *use* CSS and HTML4. Know your facts before you accuse
...how would he secure a server? he hasn't touched a computer for 5 years. I'm sure he's still a security expert, but 5 years is a long time in computer years. As much as I hate to burst your bubble, it's the general opinion that Mitnick wasn't really this dreaded security expert. He knew his way around VMS and DEC UNIX, but most of his exploits (ie adventures) were nothing but exploits (ie sploits...). Almost everything he did was based on social engineering (you wanna call him an expert at something, then choose that) and the Chaos Computer Club's loginout patch. Honestly, if he did still have criminal intent, keeping him away from tech wouldn't stop him, he could rob billions just with his landline phone... no high technology involved in a rob-the-old-folks telemarketing operation....
Before you dismiss Keirsey as some crackpot, I suggest you read some of his other material. He is one of the most respected psychologists in the country. Plus, his suggested treatment for children misdiagnosed with A.D.D. makes a hell of a lot more sense than pumping them full of Ritalin.
Some people in real life are also forced to contend with acting in an obnoxious manner. If you want to embrace the whole escapism thing, why not do it right? Personally, I see being obnoxious as much of a shortcoming as shyness or ugliness, and it is a disability in its own right.
If one has no friends, why not embrace the confidence of anonymity to act as someone who deserves respect, and therefore gain popularity. I'm sure most people who don't acheive such in real life still believe that if freed from their shortcomings, they could be as such.
Apparently, kids in Europe must be "immune" to ADD; there are little to no diagnoses of it there at all. ADD is something America specific, most of the rest of the world sees it as bad science.
Yeah, it's called vi.
Looks like somebody forgot to close a tag ; ) Kinda neat to see all of /. in italic.