I know space exploration, colonies, inter-galactic trade wars, hot rod space ships etc. are uber-cool to the geeks here. But can't we learn from history and change our behavior?
We should pause and think what would happen to the life (intelligent or otherwise) that might be native to the planets that we colonize. Just look at how Europeans fucked up the Americas almost totally destroying the native culture and peoples in the process. Look at what happened in Australia to the aborigines. We do not need a Space Colonialism. Let us just blow ourselfs up in this planet and call it quits.
Where would you get your VIS, SIS etc. mother boards? Why, you would get it from China. Just like you get your Levis jeans, Gap t-shirt, Nike shoes and hundreds of other things you come across day to day.
What if it had already happened once? What if Jericho weren't really the "First City?" What if we humans became significantly advanced (pre-industrial age or so?) then got wiped out by the encroaching glaciation? Which would explain the decided lack of structures and monuments, with the notable exception of the alleged sunken cities in the Sea of Japan, off India and Cuba.
Now, we would see signs of these civilizations, won't we? IMO, any civilization that advances to pre-industrial level leaves behind evidence.
I read somewhere that the temples at Ankor could be upwards of 12k years old.
Having actually visited Angkor and having read quite a bit on the Khmer people let me say that this is simply hogwash. Angkor was built circa 13th century. Angkor is a Hindu temple (one just has to see the Ramayana / Mahabharat bas reliefs on its walls). If Angkor was indeed 12k years old, Hinduism itself would have been much older. There simply isn't any evidence that Hinduism that old. Hell, the Brahminical Aryans weren't even in India back then.
Thaths
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Brought to mind a Homer quote:
When will you Australians learn? In America we stopped using corporal punishment, and things have never been better! The streets are safe. Old people strut confidently through the darkest alleys. And the weak and nerdy are admired for their computer-programming abilities. So, like us, let your children run wild and free, because, as the old saying goes, "Let your children run wild and free."
Man 2: That's correct, Tom. The lion's share of this flight will be devoted to the study of the effects of weightlessness on tiny screws. Tom: Unbelievable, and just imagine the logistics of weightlessness. And of course, this could have literally millions of applications
here on Earth -- everything from watchmaking to watch repair.
Average people are not interested in space research. As far as most Americans are concerned, the goal of space exploration has been achieved. "The Good Capitalists beat the Bad Communists. God showed whose side He was on. Time to stop spending all those billions on NASA." That is how an average person thinks. Space research such as this, even though it tells us lots about ourselves, is as interesting to Joe Sixpack as watchmaking and watch repair.
Latex is a typesetting language. HTML is a markup language. HTML, in its pure form, is supposed to seperate presentation from content. Latex does has the content and the presentation intertwined.
> The fact of the matter is that Netscape drowned > in it's own spoils, tripped over it's own fat
This I'd agree with to a certain degree.
> and foolishly underestimated their competition.
Is expecting the competition to play by the legal rules underestimation?
> Then two years later they go crying to the > Justice Department
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. The Justise Department thinggy started waaaaay before Jan 1998 (when the decision to open the source of Mozilla was made).
For a long time I have had this question in my head. The one oppurtunity I had to get this question answered by some reputable scientician (Simpsons Reference:-), viz. Stephen Hawking, I chickened out.
Anyway, my question is this:
We say that the universe is expanding because of the doppler red shift in the light that reaches us from the stars in the outer reaches of the universe. We are basically looking into the past when we are observing the stars in the outer reaches of the universe.
. What if the expansion of the universe is just something that used to happen in the past? Could it be that the expansion of the past has stopped? Maybe the universe is just in steady-state now.
"... but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom." [4F02]
What are they doing trying to find malloc.c? Search and removing SCO's intellectual property?
Thaths
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We should pause and think what would happen to the life (intelligent or otherwise) that might be native to the planets that we colonize. Just look at how Europeans fucked up the Americas almost totally destroying the native culture and peoples in the process. Look at what happened in Australia to the aborigines. We do not need a Space Colonialism. Let us just blow ourselfs up in this planet and call it quits.
Thahs
Where would you get your VIS, SIS etc. mother boards? Why, you would get it from China. Just like you get your Levis jeans, Gap t-shirt, Nike shoes and hundreds of other things you come across day to day.
Thaths
Now, we would see signs of these civilizations, won't we? IMO, any civilization that advances to pre-industrial level leaves behind evidence.
I read somewhere that the temples at Ankor could be upwards of 12k years old.
Having actually visited Angkor and having read quite a bit on the Khmer people let me say that this is simply hogwash. Angkor was built circa 13th century. Angkor is a Hindu temple (one just has to see the Ramayana / Mahabharat bas reliefs on its walls). If Angkor was indeed 12k years old, Hinduism itself would have been much older. There simply isn't any evidence that Hinduism that old. Hell, the Brahminical Aryans weren't even in India back then.
Thaths
When will you Australians learn? In America we stopped using corporal punishment, and things have never been better! The streets are safe. Old people strut confidently through the darkest alleys. And the weak and nerdy are admired for their computer-programming abilities. So, like us, let your children run wild and free, because, as the old saying goes, "Let your children run wild and free."
Man 2: That's correct, Tom. The lion's share of this flight will be devoted to the study of the effects of weightlessness on tiny screws.
Tom: Unbelievable, and just imagine the logistics of weightlessness. And of course, this could have literally millions of applications here on Earth -- everything from watchmaking to watch repair.
Average people are not interested in space research. As far as most Americans are concerned, the goal of space exploration has been achieved. "The Good Capitalists beat the Bad Communists. God showed whose side He was on. Time to stop spending all those billions on NASA." That is how an average person thinks. Space research such as this, even though it tells us lots about ourselves, is as interesting to Joe Sixpack as watchmaking and watch repair.
I watched it a couple of years ago. Some of the graphics and "special effect" (like Sagan cruising through the solar system) are highly tacky.
Latex is a typesetting language. HTML is a markup language. HTML, in its pure form, is supposed to seperate presentation from content. Latex does has the content and the presentation intertwined.
Weren't the moon landings faked someplace in New Mexico in the first place? ;-)
Shouldn't Deep Thought's child be named Earth Mark I?
> The fact of the matter is that Netscape drowned
> in it's own spoils, tripped over it's own fat
This I'd agree with to a certain degree.
> and foolishly underestimated their competition.
Is expecting the competition to play by the legal rules underestimation?
> Then two years later they go crying to the
> Justice Department
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. The Justise Department thinggy started waaaaay before Jan 1998 (when the decision to open the source of Mozilla was made).
Thaths
Anyway, my question is this:
We say that the universe is expanding because of the doppler red shift in the light that reaches us from the stars in the outer reaches of the universe. We are basically looking into the past when we are observing the stars in the outer reaches of the universe.
. What if the expansion of the universe is just something that used to happen in the past? Could it be that the expansion of the past has stopped? Maybe the universe is just in steady-state now.
Would welcome the views of all you folks.
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