I have often thought about this, and while I don't like the idea, it seems the way to really get rid of spam is to license email-server operators, or the servers themselves. There would be a global 'whitelist' of licensed email servers on the net. You would configure your server to only accept mail from those mail servers and no others. If a server sends spam, they get removed from the whitelist. If they continue to send spam, they lose their license forever.
Like I say, I don't really like this much intervention, but spam is getting out of control, and it seems that the solution should come from the providers running the mail servers rather than client side filters.
And used butane lighters to light their smokes? I imagine the amount of fuel in these cells is less than the amount of butane in a bic lighter, besides, fuel cells are not really a puncturable container that could spill its methanol (and let it light up)
We get a few of these a month actually sent to root@speakeasy.net. Hmm, does anyone think this is a real person -- I sort of doubt it. Although we always look suspiciously at the other members of the engineering group that gets root@ mail whenever we get these, its more for our own entertainment.
Seems everyone has discussed the pros and cons of tubes vs. solid state for various applications. Most audiophiles don't own a boombox, and for the same reason, would not want this piece of junk.
Audiophile equipment is all broken out into its individual components, the higher end, the more pieces (separate pre- and power- amps, dual mono amps for driving two channels! etc.)
So, to get great sound out of your computer, you would want to take the digital signal and run it straight to a high end D/A converter (not the cheesy crap you'll find on any retail sound card) then take that signal and put run it to your high end hi-fi system or studio monitors.
I say stop buying the tripe they try and force down our throats. What we need is a forum for independent publishers to be able to advertize their artists wares (maybe with a few free mp3's) then sell the CD's right there online. Its not like I will miss buying anything the majors labels have put out lately. Lets all shoot for 50% less sales for the major labels in 2002.
> Keep in mind, if you get 1% of 1.7 million people to send you $5, you've more than paid for your efforts, that's what has to be fought, the spammer at the pocketbook.
I guess we'll never get rid of spam since there continue to be enough stupid people in the world who will not only read the crap, but go out and buy it!
I never buy anything advertised as spam, the same as I hang up on every telemarketer that ever calls me. If I want something, I'll do the calling. I suppose if everyone acted in this manner rather than giving into to their impulses, we wouldn't have a spam problem. And those telemarketers would stop calling as well! Too bad it will never happen and we'll have to rely on Uncle Sam to 'protect' us (well, maybe just the stupid people)
I totally agree that no guitar player will want an RJ-45 on their guitar, and probably wouldn't use it where it there. They still want to plug right into an old fashioned Marshall or Fender amp (tubes just sound better, period -- ask any pro musician)
What will be really cool, it getting the signal's back to the mixer. Right now you have connect you mikes to a XLR cable that goes to the mixer. This is fine, but if you want the mixer out in front of the band, so the engineer can actually hear what the audinece hears and mix appropriately, you need very long cables. Or get a snake, which you can plug in 16 or more XLR inputs to a box, which has a 100' or longer cable (just 16 or more cables wrapped together really into a big fat 1"-1.5" cable, that you have to duct tape down to the floor so no one trips over it. And then it gets all sticky, trampled on, and these things cost $200 or more.
Now, if that snake box could convert to ethernet, you would only have to run one, or two ethernet cables back to the mixer, then a few others (ethernet or regular coax) to get the signal back to stage where you can hook up to the power amps. That would be most excellent. Cheapo ethernet cables could be strung up anywhere, and the sound signal should be able to travel longer (though it will go quite a ways with low impedance mics) Anyway, much less cable to buy, haul around, and replace when it gets damaged.
Guitarists get to use regular old analog, mike their amps, and run through the PA, it just the A/D conversion happens at a hub on stage instead of the digital effects rack on the board. Seems to be a pretty good thing, if it can be make cheap and reliable enough.
Right, like we are going to block port 80 to all our customers. Sheesh, have you not read the posts! We have a decent customer base because we let people run whatever they want, unless it gets so flamed that half the work launches a DOS attack torwards us.
Since we are 100% UNIX based (well one IIS server for customer who just need Front Page and asp -- chili-soft doesn't cut it, unless you don't mind running apache with 777 directories all over the place) and we turn off the web interface on all our routers, we have been totally unaffected by Code Red. Well, you say attacks are coming from our network, we've been shutting down IIS users left and right, but we will NEVER globally shut down port 80. Such a move would abandon half our customer base.
Actually our cheapest web hosting package now offers 100MB of disk space and unlimited bandwidth. The servers sit right on an OC-12, not too shabby for $35/month. Ok, residental hosting only gives out 10 megs, but space is cheap, and that starts at $15. For old-schoolers, you can still run www.speakeasy.org/~username and that doesn't cost a thing (and its Linux, so no worries)
In the article, Mr Mecham, who is the it person, stated:
'After the shutdown, Mr. Mecham complained in a memorandum that disconnecting the software was irresponsible and might have resulted in security breaches, allowing unauthorized outsiders access to the judiciary's internal confidential computer network. "The weeklong shutdown put the entire judiciary's data communication network at risk," he wrote on June 15.'
This it total FUD! How can a monitoring program on a judges workstation have ANY effect on the integrity of the firewall. I don't know of any firewall that requires client programs on end users workstations to be active in order to maintain protection.
I run linux on my Cube and it works great. OSX is nice enough, but the lack of virtual desktops kills it for me.
When asleep, you can't even tell the thing is on, but you can tell when you wake it up, a 20-gig ide drive does make a little bit of noise when it spins up and starts working. Running Linux, it never spins down the drive, so you get the IDE spin noise all the time -- which is pretty negligible.
Oh sure, we'll just take our main mail server offline, I'm sure the customers won't mind.
Yes backing up the data was easy and quick. Building a machine that does mail, shell logins, back-end accounting, running the way it was running before takes a bit longer. Though 16 gigs does take a while. Needless to say, all these services are on different machines now, but we were small and on a budget in those days.
He stopped getting into UNIX machines after this incident, as he was not able to get back into to our rebuilt machine. At least NT must have been an easier target.
If it was your machine that Alexi cracked. Then tried to export us for $4,500 (?!?) then ran "rm -rf/" on our machine when we refused to give him money. This happened in December 1999, it was Alexi, we had his address, picture, but could not do a thing. He was even bragging to us that we could not bust him because he was in Russia and the Russian authorities would not act -- which was true.
I am personally glad he's in the slammer. And I'm sure all you bleeding hearts would be too if it was you that spent 72 hours without sleep trying to recover from his activities. My only complaint is that it took 3 years to do it.
Seriously though, what do we do about Internet users in countries with no low enforcement -- should we just cut Russia off from the Internet entirely? I think that would be worse than running sting operations like this one. If anyone has better ideas, post them! And "secure your machine" isn't the answer, no matter how secure the thing is, there will always be an exploit tomorrow that will root it.
Yeah right, I'm going to use experimental code to do something that runs in software vs. something that has ASICS builts specifically to do the task? The ASICS will be at minimum 10X faster, plus the thinkg boots in 7 seconds, never has to do fsck, etc. etc.
One again I'm suprised, but happy to see all the positive comments about Speakeasy. Maybe its just because we give a shit, and do try to maintain the cool stuff like, ssh, imap-ssl, pop-then-smtp for folks on other ISP's ips address. Our mail servers still crap out now and then, the comment about single machines is true. One box just wont cut it, even a dual alpha running Linux - gasp, it does crash.
The cool thing is that we've got a huge mail cluster that should be up in two months or so. Its going to be a ServerIron load balancing 8 BSD boxes connecting to a Net App nfs server. After this thing is up I'll be able to throw away my cell phone! And that makes me even happier than these positive comments!
I am the admin at a medium sized ISP. We're always getting complaints about spam sent from our customers. So, we have shut down lots of them. I've noticed that whenever Uu.net gets a hold of one of these pieces of SPAM, they threaten to blackhole our ip space if we don't shut down the spamvertised site. I would not have a problem with this, I love to turn off spammers DSL accounts, except for these two facts.
1. Why have they not shut down Amazon's site yet, judging from how many complaints I see here, I can't believe they've not gotten complaints. Smells of an old boys network to me.
2. Half of the spam I get originated from Uu.net ips. I send complaints, get their canned response, then nothing. Often I get the same spam a few days later. WTF! Practice what you preach boys.
Maps WANTS to get sued. They even have instructions on how to sue them on their website. They really want to blow this out in the open, and I commend them for this.
The feel that by getting sued, they will eventually get the chance to prove the constitutionality of spam or spam blockers. It will be interesting to see what happens.
So you have about 500 customers per Redback? At $60,000-80,000 a peice I can't see how you are making money. They are supposed to run with up to 8,000 subs per box, and we now realize we can only use them at about 50% of this, or they start getting flaky.
I am the admin at Speakeasy (no I'm not going to blow my own horn here so easy on the flame till you've read it all) We are rated very high on DSL reports, but we still experience more outages than I'd like to see. The problem is the DSL concentrators are first generation products, and still need a lot of work in the code and hardware. We are using the best ones available, made by Redback, and they still crash every couple of weeks, causing 10-20 minute outages.
Most people realize this and don't wet themselves when service temporarily craps out. Some customers bet their business on DSL, put up commercial servers and expect enterprise service, then get all freaked out when service cuts out for any amount of time. Bottom line is if you need 99.9999% uptime, DSL won't cut it, from any ISP, yet. If 99% uptime is just fine, then DSL rocks, at a fraction of the cost of T-1's etc.
I do expect this to change. We just got some second generation hardware which has all the cool guy redundancy so it will keep running when part of it breaks, and the Redback folks are bustin' their asses getting the code stable. I don't think there's an ISP out there not having the same problems, if they say they aren't, they're lying.
Well its free if 1. you are scrappy enough to do an nfs install and 2. you don't pay for bandwidth and 3. You don't need the manual.
I don't think that most school districts have any of these. Besides whats the harm in a little prodding, a'la a shiny new shrink wrapped box, to encourage Linux usage?
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I have often thought about this, and while I don't like the idea, it seems the way to really get rid of spam is to license email-server operators, or the servers themselves. There would be a global 'whitelist' of licensed email servers on the net. You would configure your server to only accept mail from those mail servers and no others. If a server sends spam, they get removed from the whitelist. If they continue to send spam, they lose their license forever.
Like I say, I don't really like this much intervention, but spam is getting out of control, and it seems that the solution should come from the providers running the mail servers rather than client side filters.
And used butane lighters to light their smokes? I imagine the amount of fuel in these cells is less than the amount of butane in a bic lighter, besides, fuel cells are not really a puncturable container that could spill its methanol (and let it light up)
We get a few of these a month actually sent to root@speakeasy.net. Hmm, does anyone think this is a real person -- I sort of doubt it. Although we always look suspiciously at the other members of the engineering group that gets root@ mail whenever we get these, its more for our own entertainment.
Seems everyone has discussed the pros and cons of tubes vs. solid state for various applications. Most audiophiles don't own a boombox, and for the same reason, would not want this piece of junk.
Audiophile equipment is all broken out into its individual components, the higher end, the more pieces (separate pre- and power- amps, dual mono amps for driving two channels! etc.)
So, to get great sound out of your computer, you would want to take the digital signal and run it straight to a high end D/A converter (not the cheesy crap you'll find on any retail sound card) then take that signal and put run it to your high end hi-fi system or studio monitors.
I say stop buying the tripe they try and force down our throats. What we need is a forum for independent publishers to be able to advertize their artists wares (maybe with a few free mp3's) then sell the CD's right there online. Its not like I will miss buying anything the majors labels have put out lately. Lets all shoot for 50% less sales for the major labels in 2002.
> Keep in mind, if you get 1% of 1.7 million people to send you $5, you've more than paid for your efforts, that's what has to be fought, the spammer at the pocketbook.
I guess we'll never get rid of spam since there continue to be enough stupid people in the world who will not only read the crap, but go out and buy it!
I never buy anything advertised as spam, the same as I hang up on every telemarketer that ever calls me. If I want something, I'll do the calling. I suppose if everyone acted in this manner rather than giving into to their impulses, we wouldn't have a spam problem. And those telemarketers would stop calling as well! Too bad it will never happen and we'll have to rely on Uncle Sam to 'protect' us (well, maybe just the stupid people)
I totally agree that no guitar player will want an RJ-45 on their guitar, and probably wouldn't use it where it there. They still want to plug right into an old fashioned Marshall or Fender amp (tubes just sound better, period -- ask any pro musician)
What will be really cool, it getting the signal's back to the mixer. Right now you have connect you mikes to a XLR cable that goes to the mixer. This is fine, but if you want the mixer out in front of the band, so the engineer can actually hear what the audinece hears and mix appropriately, you need very long cables. Or get a snake, which you can plug in 16 or more XLR inputs to a box, which has a 100' or longer cable (just 16 or more cables wrapped together really into a big fat 1"-1.5" cable, that you have to duct tape down to the floor so no one trips over it. And then it gets all sticky, trampled on, and these things cost $200 or more.
Now, if that snake box could convert to ethernet, you would only have to run one, or two ethernet cables back to the mixer, then a few others (ethernet or regular coax) to get the signal back to stage where you can hook up to the power amps. That would be most excellent. Cheapo ethernet cables could be strung up anywhere, and the sound signal should be able to travel longer (though it will go quite a ways with low impedance mics) Anyway, much less cable to buy, haul around, and replace when it gets damaged.
Guitarists get to use regular old analog, mike their amps, and run through the PA, it just the A/D conversion happens at a hub on stage instead of the digital effects rack on the board. Seems to be a pretty good thing, if it can be make cheap and reliable enough.
Right, like we are going to block port 80 to all our customers. Sheesh, have you not read the posts! We have a decent customer base because we let people run whatever they want, unless it gets so flamed that half the work launches a DOS attack torwards us.
Since we are 100% UNIX based (well one IIS server for customer who just need Front Page and asp -- chili-soft doesn't cut it, unless you don't mind running apache with 777 directories all over the place) and we turn off the web interface on all our routers, we have been totally unaffected by Code Red. Well, you say attacks are coming from our network, we've been shutting down IIS users left and right, but we will NEVER globally shut down port 80. Such a move would abandon half our customer base.
Actually our cheapest web hosting package now offers 100MB of disk space and unlimited bandwidth. The servers sit right on an OC-12, not too shabby for $35/month. Ok, residental hosting only gives out 10 megs, but space is cheap, and that starts at $15. For old-schoolers, you can still run www.speakeasy.org/~username and that doesn't cost a thing (and its Linux, so no worries)
In the article, Mr Mecham, who is the it person, stated:
'After the shutdown, Mr. Mecham complained in a memorandum that disconnecting the software was irresponsible and might have resulted in security breaches, allowing unauthorized outsiders access to the judiciary's internal confidential computer network. "The weeklong shutdown put the entire judiciary's data communication network at risk," he wrote on June 15.'
This it total FUD! How can a monitoring program on a judges workstation have ANY effect on the integrity of the firewall. I don't know of any firewall that requires client programs on end users workstations to be active in order to maintain protection.
I run linux on my Cube and it works great. OSX is nice enough, but the lack of virtual desktops kills it for me.
When asleep, you can't even tell the thing is on, but you can tell when you wake it up, a 20-gig ide drive does make a little bit of noise when it spins up and starts working. Running Linux, it never spins down the drive, so you get the IDE spin noise all the time -- which is pretty negligible.
Oh sure, we'll just take our main mail server offline, I'm sure the customers won't mind.
Yes backing up the data was easy and quick. Building a machine that does mail, shell logins, back-end accounting, running the way it was running before takes a bit longer. Though 16 gigs does take a while. Needless to say, all these services are on different machines now, but we were small and on a budget in those days.
He stopped getting into UNIX machines after this incident, as he was not able to get back into to our rebuilt machine. At least NT must have been an easier target.
If it was your machine that Alexi cracked. Then tried to export us for $4,500 (?!?) then ran "rm -rf /" on our machine when we refused to give him money. This happened in December 1999, it was Alexi, we had his address, picture, but could not do a thing. He was even bragging to us that we could not bust him because he was in Russia and the Russian authorities would not act -- which was true.
I am personally glad he's in the slammer. And I'm sure all you bleeding hearts would be too if it was you that spent 72 hours without sleep trying to recover from his activities. My only complaint is that it took 3 years to do it.
Seriously though, what do we do about Internet users in countries with no low enforcement -- should we just cut Russia off from the Internet entirely? I think that would be worse than running sting operations like this one. If anyone has better ideas, post them! And "secure your machine" isn't the answer, no matter how secure the thing is, there will always be an exploit tomorrow that will root it.
Yeah right, I'm going to use experimental code to do something that runs in software vs. something that has ASICS builts specifically to do the task? The ASICS will be at minimum 10X faster, plus the thinkg boots in 7 seconds, never has to do fsck, etc. etc.
One again I'm suprised, but happy to see all the positive comments about Speakeasy. Maybe its just because we give a shit, and do try to maintain the cool stuff like, ssh, imap-ssl, pop-then-smtp for folks on other ISP's ips address. Our mail servers still crap out now and then, the comment about single machines is true. One box just wont cut it, even a dual alpha running Linux - gasp, it does crash.
The cool thing is that we've got a huge mail cluster that should be up in two months or so. Its going to be a ServerIron load balancing 8 BSD boxes connecting to a Net App nfs server. After this thing is up I'll be able to throw away my cell phone! And that makes me even happier than these positive comments!
I am the admin at a medium sized ISP. We're always getting complaints about spam sent from our customers. So, we have shut down lots of them. I've noticed that whenever Uu.net gets a hold of one of these pieces of SPAM, they threaten to blackhole our ip space if we don't shut down the spamvertised site. I would not have a problem with this, I love to turn off spammers DSL accounts, except for these two facts.
1. Why have they not shut down Amazon's site yet, judging from how many complaints I see here, I can't believe they've not gotten complaints. Smells of an old boys network to me.
2. Half of the spam I get originated from Uu.net ips. I send complaints, get their canned response, then nothing. Often I get the same spam a few days later. WTF! Practice what you preach boys.
Maps WANTS to get sued. They even have instructions on how to sue them on their website. They really want to blow this out in the open, and I commend them for this.
The feel that by getting sued, they will eventually get the chance to prove the constitutionality of spam or spam blockers. It will be interesting to see what happens.
So you have about 500 customers per Redback? At $60,000-80,000 a peice I can't see how you are making money. They are supposed to run with up to 8,000 subs per box, and we now realize we can only use them at about 50% of this, or they start getting flaky.
I am the admin at Speakeasy (no I'm not going to blow my own horn here so easy on the flame till you've read it all) We are rated very high on DSL reports, but we still experience more outages than I'd like to see. The problem is the DSL concentrators are first generation products, and still need a lot of work in the code and hardware. We are using the best ones available, made by Redback, and they still crash every couple of weeks, causing 10-20 minute outages.
Most people realize this and don't wet themselves when service temporarily craps out. Some customers bet their business on DSL, put up commercial servers and expect enterprise service, then get all freaked out when service cuts out for any amount of time. Bottom line is if you need 99.9999% uptime, DSL won't cut it, from any ISP, yet. If 99% uptime is just fine, then DSL rocks, at a fraction of the cost of T-1's etc.
I do expect this to change. We just got some second generation hardware which has all the cool guy redundancy so it will keep running when part of it breaks, and the Redback folks are bustin' their asses getting the code stable. I don't think there's an ISP out there not having the same problems, if they say they aren't, they're lying.
resisting urge to stump Speakeasy....
Well its free if 1. you are scrappy enough to do an nfs install and 2. you don't pay for bandwidth and 3. You don't need the manual.
I don't think that most school districts have any of these. Besides whats the harm in a little prodding, a'la a shiny new shrink wrapped box, to encourage Linux usage?