What you probably downloaded, was the source to the nvidia driver kernel module. That's only part of the story. The other part, which is conspicuously(sp?) missing, is a binary only download of the nvidia server for X as well as the libGL.so and GLX portions of the OpenGL ICD. So, yes you did download the source. Nearly 1/3 of it.
I agree that some of the (L)users could potentially harm the cause. Perhaps in this situation though, this particular trojan was concocted by a MS advocate that is afraid of how close Linux is getting. Wants to put a bad spin on things. Dunno, just a thought.
Well, using that logic it makes a whole lot of companies not economically viable. Including this one.
Just because a companie's stock price is in the tank over the past year or so doesn't mean it's not commercially accepted. With the way the stock market has been and it's flavor of the day stock picks, it's difficult to use the market as an indicator for anything.
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The answer is....
They've installed a Complexity Detector(c) in it! You see, it actually is 7 times faster all the time, but with the patent pending Complexity Detector(c) it's able to understand when a scene is complex or not. If it's not complex it slows itself down. If a scene is complex, it runs full speed.
Come to think of it, I don't get it either. At least not as often as I would like.
I'm sorry, I think what you meant to say is that there is the potential for ethics to suffer due to the availability of the source. I don't believe that it always suffers simply because the source is available. Were that to be true, linux, Apache etc... would not be widely used today.
A combat flight sim for Linux would be cool, although, you might be able to use an existing sim from the windows world if you use wine. X-Plane works great under Linux using wine. IMHO, it's one of the best flight sims out there, but it does lack the ability to shoot/kill other entities besides yourself. I wonder how tough it would be to get flightgear working?
There's some good points in your post. I have used the public beta and have noticed several things. There's actually quite a bit of unix in there. They left in the Terminal.app prog which gives you a tcsh. Once you pull up the shell, you do have access to anything ie./usr/etc I've already used it to enable telnetd for remote access to one of our computers. Although Apple didn't include gcc/c++ etc.. they did include Perl. Now, what they didn't do: They didn't have the network configuration include Appletalk by default. No problem, I'll just add it. Whoops! What do you mean I have to restart my computer for this change to take effect. I didn't have to in OS9? I've noticed that it appears that the emphasis was put on the interface with somewhat of a disregard towards configuration within a unix enviro. There's no reason why you can't use the Terminal.app prog and do it manually including a kill -HUP pid for reconfiguration on the fly. Why Apple hasn't written script files or something that accomodates this, I'll never know. Anyway, all in all, it looks pretty good so far.
I agree. We've definitely got a way to go before we achieve near 100% correct results. Take the company I work at for instance. I've personally gone through our web site to be sure that there are meta tags, content, links etc... that would be searchable. But still, when performaning a basic search under Google or any other engine, we're hard to find. If you search for our company name, however, you will find all kinds of pages on us. That's great if you already know about us, but not so great if you want to find us. I've often wondered what exactly it is that allows me to find some sites, that don't appear to be what I'm looking for, and not find the one I am. Anyway, yes, I concur that there must be a better way.
Since we're getting a bit *out* there, I just wanted to add my.02c re: ATA/66. I'm not using Mandrake, and I've built most of my distro from source, so take that with a grain of salt. Anyway, I'm using kernel 2.2.16 and I patched it for both Reiser and ATA/66 (I have a promise UDMA 66 card). I mated this with the IBM Deskstar drive I've got and the performance is pretty good I'd have to say. hdparm -t shows sustained rates of ~36MB/sec and the system is noticeably (?) snappier. Anyway, big improvement on my end. HTH.
I hope they remember to put in a bunch of code that makes it randomly crash and frequently displays a blue screen to the end user. This would mimic the look and feel and make it very familiar to the masses.
Here's a link to a translation of the original Nikkei article converted from Japanese to English by the Gist guys. This is the default translator site built into Mozilla. It tries to do a good job, but it's kinda funny how some phrases go:
As the gratuitous OS quickly general/universal And you use the Linux which has been done, can use everyone freely The sea urchin it releases, can connect to the development cost reduction of the product. Yep, that's what I always liked about Linux - the open source sea urchin:)
Wow, I'd better not even go see that page - cause if I did, technically I'd be d/l'ing the images which is strictly verboten. Especially since my box accesses the web through a Squid proxy server, and I just can't help it if it stores it on there afterwards. Sheesh, I think they made it illegal to go to their site:)
Description: This is an MP3 player. I know there are hundreds of others available here on Freshmeat, but this one is mine!!! I'm so 1337. Besides, I don't know enough to be able to contribute to any of the existing open source projects.
Or, my personal favorite:
Description: Initial Announcement - No code is available yet. Even though there are hundreds of similar programs already available, I'm looking for people that are smarter than me to write this one.
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And you think that the kernel developers, xfree developers, wine developers, mozilla developers etc... ad nauseum don't have jobs? The wonderful and free OS known as linux is available because of the combined efforts of a bunch of people around the world that helped to work on a lot of code before and after they go to work. There's a reason all this stuff's actually free. There's also many different ways to contribute to a project without having to code. So don't just complain when it's conveniently listed un/. If you have a gripe/bug report/feature request, submit it to bugzilla.
Remember that a large part of wine is libwine. That's the library of API function calls that allows developers to compile a windows program against and generate a native linux program. So yes, one of the benefits of wine is the ability of a user to run their already bought windows software. However, possibly a greater benefit is the ability of the developer to compile his pre-existing windows source and generate a linux binary. Check out the latest Corel office suite. I believe that this is actually a wine program created from their original windows source. Pretty cool stuff actually.
I've rarely used napster, gnutella or whatever. The few times I've actually used it were to download songs that I already have on CD. It's a quick way to search and d/l files when you don't want to go through the task of ripping your own. Some of those 300,000+ Metallica fans must own Metallica CD's. What's wrong with listening to a song on your computer instead of your home/car stereo? My computer only came with 1 cd player. What if I want to listen to multiple songs from different artists? I have a few hundred CD's, but I haven't figured out how to put all of them into my 1 cd-rom drive yet (at the same time). If I were one of the lawsuits defendants, and I owned Metallica CD's, I'd have to question the motive of a company willing to sue it's customers for the usage of a product that was purchased. In fact, I might not purchase any more of their products if that's the way they're gonna treat me afterwards....
I don't care which browser I use so long as it returns me to the exact spot on the page from where I originally followed a link when I hit the [back] button:) So yes, currently I use the built-in browser in Staroffice and wish that Mozilla/Netscape et al would build in this feature.
I have to agree. It seems as though it is getting harder for companies to *innovate* and break new ground. However, I've recently taken a position in a company where 95% of our installed systems are macs. I've had very little exposure to them over the years, and found that the installation and setup of one of those buggers was so easy that it was almost hard for me (kept looking for something else to setup/config with it:) We have an OS-X system installed there and I think that shows tremendous potential - slick GUI, easy install, setup and configuration while retaining the power of *BSD type boxes. I'd have to say that's the closest thing to *real* innovation I've seen in a while. Coming from the *nix world, I'll still try to set up some Linux boxes, but I'm more excited about OS-X than any slightly faster Mac with OS-9.
I wonder if this really is a typical DoS attack or something else? Around 6-6:30 pm PST, my DSL connection flaked out on me. I've been tweaking my router and trying to fix it to no avail. I checked out http://www.users.uswest.net/~scottz/download.html and found many areas with problems. Some won't even try to connect, while others go just fine. Seems like whole regions are out right now. Even having serious troubles accessing/. Weird...
I've heard similar comments relating to pgcc. I'm wondering what the Mandrake people use to compile their kernel, libraries etc... Do they use pgcc in-house to compile it? If so, how do *they* get a stable release for their distro? Or, is it just that when you *upgrade* to pgcc on an existing distro problems arise? Just wondering, cause I'm thinking of switching to Mandrake from COL. Anybody know? Thanks.
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What you probably downloaded, was the source to the nvidia driver kernel module. That's only part of the story. The other part, which is conspicuously(sp?) missing, is a binary only download of the nvidia server for X as well as the libGL.so and GLX portions of the OpenGL ICD. So, yes you did download the source. Nearly 1/3 of it.
what database can do all the same stuff as SQL but is free?
I know I probably shouldn't reply to this, but I'm gonna anyway....How bout this one?
Well, you asked....
I agree that some of the (L)users could potentially harm the cause.
Perhaps in this situation though, this particular trojan was concocted by a MS advocate that is afraid of how close Linux is getting. Wants to put a bad spin on things. Dunno, just a thought.
Well, using that logic it makes a whole lot of companies not economically viable. Including this one.
Just because a companie's stock price is in the tank over the past year or so doesn't mean it's not commercially accepted. With the way the stock market has been and it's flavor of the day stock picks, it's difficult to use the market as an indicator for anything.
The answer is....
They've installed a Complexity Detector(c) in it! You see, it actually is 7 times faster all the time, but with the patent pending Complexity Detector(c) it's able to understand when a scene is complex or not. If it's not complex it slows itself down. If a scene is complex, it runs full speed.
Come to think of it, I don't get it either. At least not as often as I would like.
Cool... That'd go great with my "wiresless" mouse.
No, I propose...That...they go into the forest....And find the largest tree....And chop it down...with a herring!!
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
I'm sorry, I think what you meant to say is that there is the potential for ethics to suffer due to the availability of the source. I don't believe that it always suffers simply because the source is available. Were that to be true, linux, Apache etc... would not be widely used today.
A combat flight sim for Linux would be cool, although, you might be able to use an existing sim from the windows world if you use wine. X-Plane works great under Linux using wine. IMHO, it's one of the best flight sims out there, but it does lack the ability to shoot/kill other entities besides yourself. I wonder how tough it would be to get flightgear working?
There's some good points in your post. I have used the public beta and have noticed several things. There's actually quite a bit of unix in there. They left in the Terminal.app prog which gives you a tcsh. Once you pull up the shell, you do have access to anything ie. /usr /etc I've already used it to enable telnetd for remote access to one of our computers. Although Apple didn't include gcc/c++ etc.. they did include Perl. Now, what they didn't do: They didn't have the network configuration include Appletalk by default. No problem, I'll just add it. Whoops! What do you mean I have to restart my computer for this change to take effect. I didn't have to in OS9? I've noticed that it appears that the emphasis was put on the interface with somewhat of a disregard towards configuration within a unix enviro. There's no reason why you can't use the Terminal.app prog and do it manually including a kill -HUP pid for reconfiguration on the fly. Why Apple hasn't written script files or something that accomodates this, I'll never know. Anyway, all in all, it looks pretty good so far.
I agree. We've definitely got a way to go before we achieve near 100% correct results. Take the company I work at for instance. I've personally gone through our web site to be sure that there are meta tags, content, links etc... that would be searchable. But still, when performaning a basic search under Google or any other engine, we're hard to find. If you search for our company name, however, you will find all kinds of pages on us. That's great if you already know about us, but not so great if you want to find us. I've often wondered what exactly it is that allows me to find some sites, that don't appear to be what I'm looking for, and not find the one I am. Anyway, yes, I concur that there must be a better way.
Since we're getting a bit *out* there, I just wanted to add my .02c re: ATA/66. I'm not using Mandrake, and I've built most of my distro from source, so take that with a grain of salt. Anyway, I'm using kernel 2.2.16 and I patched it for both Reiser and ATA/66 (I have a promise UDMA 66 card). I mated this with the IBM Deskstar drive I've got and the performance is pretty good I'd have to say. hdparm -t shows sustained rates of ~36MB/sec and the system is noticeably (?) snappier. Anyway, big improvement on my end. HTH.
I hope they remember to put in a bunch of code that makes it randomly crash and frequently displays a blue screen to the end user. This would mimic the look and feel and make it very familiar to the masses.
Here's a link to a translation of the original Nikkei article converted from Japanese to English by the Gist guys. This is the default translator site built into Mozilla. It tries to do a good job, but it's kinda funny how some phrases go:
As the gratuitous OS quickly general/universal And you use the Linux which has been done, can use everyone freely The sea urchin it releases, can connect to the development cost reduction of the product. :)
Yep, that's what I always liked about Linux - the open source sea urchin
Wow, I'd better not even go see that page - cause if I did, technically I'd be d/l'ing the images which is strictly verboten. Especially since my box accesses the web through a Squid proxy server, and I just can't help it if it stores it on there afterwards. Sheesh, I think they made it illegal to go to their site :)
Description: This is an MP3 player. I know there are hundreds of others available here on Freshmeat, but this one is mine!!! I'm so 1337. Besides, I don't know enough to be able to contribute to any of the existing open source projects.
Or, my personal favorite:
Description: Initial Announcement - No code is available yet. Even though there are hundreds of similar programs already available, I'm looking for people that are smarter than me to write this one.
And you think that the kernel developers, xfree developers, wine developers, mozilla developers etc... ad nauseum don't have jobs? The wonderful and free OS known as linux is available because of the combined efforts of a bunch of people around the world that helped to work on a lot of code before and after they go to work. There's a reason all this stuff's actually free. There's also many different ways to contribute to a project without having to code. So don't just complain when it's conveniently listed un /. If you have a gripe/bug report/feature request, submit it to bugzilla.
Remember that a large part of wine is libwine. That's the library of API function calls that allows developers to compile a windows program against and generate a native linux program. So yes, one of the benefits of wine is the ability of a user to run their already bought windows software. However, possibly a greater benefit is the ability of the developer to compile his pre-existing windows source and generate a linux binary. Check out the latest Corel office suite. I believe that this is actually a wine program created from their original windows source. Pretty cool stuff actually.
I've rarely used napster, gnutella or whatever. The few times I've actually used it were to download songs that I already have on CD. It's a quick way to search and d/l files when you don't want to go through the task of ripping your own. Some of those 300,000+ Metallica fans must own Metallica CD's. What's wrong with listening to a song on your computer instead of your home/car stereo? My computer only came with 1 cd player. What if I want to listen to multiple songs from different artists? I have a few hundred CD's, but I haven't figured out how to put all of them into my 1 cd-rom drive yet (at the same time).
If I were one of the lawsuits defendants, and I owned Metallica CD's, I'd have to question the motive of a company willing to sue it's customers for the usage of a product that was purchased. In fact, I might not purchase any more of their products if that's the way they're gonna treat me afterwards....
I don't care which browser I use so long as it returns me to the exact spot on the page from where I originally followed a link when I hit the [back] button :) So yes, currently I use the built-in browser in Staroffice and wish that Mozilla/Netscape et al would build in this feature.
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Whoops...
"Excuse me, but how do you run an OS ontop of another OS?"
Boot up MS-Dos, and at the C:> prompt type in W I N and press ENTER.
Millions been doin' it ever since.
I have to agree. It seems as though it is getting harder for companies to *innovate* and break new ground. However, I've recently taken a position in a company where 95% of our installed systems are macs. I've had very little exposure to them over the years, and found that the installation and setup of one of those buggers was so easy that it was almost hard for me (kept looking for something else to setup/config with it :) We have an OS-X system installed there and I think that shows tremendous potential - slick GUI, easy install, setup and configuration while retaining the power of *BSD type boxes. I'd have to say that's the closest thing to *real* innovation I've seen in a while. Coming from the *nix world, I'll still try to set up some Linux boxes, but I'm more excited about OS-X than any slightly faster Mac with OS-9.
I wonder if this really is a typical DoS attack or something else? Around 6-6:30 pm PST, my DSL connection flaked out on me. I've been tweaking my router and trying to fix it to no avail. I checked out http://www.users.uswest.net/~scottz/download.html and found many areas with problems. Some won't even try to connect, while others go just fine. Seems like whole regions are out right now. Even having serious troubles accessing /. Weird...
I've heard similar comments relating to pgcc. I'm wondering what the Mandrake people use to compile their kernel, libraries etc... Do they use pgcc in-house to compile it? If so, how do *they* get a stable release for their distro? Or, is it just that when you *upgrade* to pgcc on an existing distro problems arise? Just wondering, cause I'm thinking of switching to Mandrake from COL. Anybody know? Thanks.