Sure, you can do all that in Perl, but only because someone has bothered to write the appropriate CPAN modules for you. That's not the same as saying you can't do those things in PHP.
Ah, but that's my point. What is it you think I like about Perl? The syntax? Um, no. It's the sheer productivity from having a huge, exhaustive list of modules available.
If PHP or Python had something equivalent to CPAN, I'd probably switch. But doggone it, I'm addicted to being mega-productive.
There are over 4000 other reasons in the module repository known as CPAN.
I use several languages, but when I want to be productive, I turn to Perl because of CPAN. Generally, I have 80% of my code nicely abstracted in object-oriented modules. (Note to OO purists: bugger off, we're comparing to PHP not Scheme or Eiffel or whatever)
Why 11 vs 10 digits? I can only think of two reasons. Either there are enough area codes in the local area that they don't want to waste the exchange codes, or they need a new area code and don't want to force the people who have it as their exchange to change their 7-digit number.
I don't think that matters. There's no reason why someone with an exchange of 688 can't also get an area code of 688, since you always have to dial 11 digits. 1-688-688-5555
I thought of two other reasons: 1. Simply more 'address space'. You go from approx. 10^10 to 10^11 possible combinations. They don't want to have to reconfigure their systems anytime soon! 2. Simpler programming of telco equipment. If you dial a 1, then expect a ten-digit number. Other initial digits (such as the "4" in "411") will be service numbers.
You want to give "poor developing countries" internet access? Don't you think we should spend more time actually developing these places before we start laying in the luxuries?... Yeah, let's build a community center in BFE for a group of people who don't have running water
My Mac (a Quadra 610) plugs directly into Ethernet, but I have a short PhoneNet run from my Apple IIGS (and occasionally an Apple IIe) into a Cayman GatorBox CS. Through the GatorBox, the GS can access files on the Mac or on the Linux server, and Marinetti [sourceforge.net] adds Internet access (with clients for Telnet, FTP, and some other services available) over the same connection (the GatorBox acts as a MacIP gateway).
My god... that was all present tense. That's scary.
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and it is ip/h2o, not h2o/ip...
Well, it should be H2O-232 because it's more like a serial protocol. It's not bidirectional, so no handshaking is possible.
seems quite difficult to give the actual feedback without the sound. moreover, wouldn't the sound be an important factor in the feedback you speak about?
The feedback he speaks about is tactile. And no, sound is not a factor at all.
Compared to Weblogic and especially Websphere, it's so incredibly simple it's silly. (Websphere especially is a *nightmare* to install and configure.)
If all you need is a servlet container, you shouldn't even consider Weblogic or Websphere--overkill. You would have been better off using JRun as a comparison point, although the latest versions of JRun bring it closer to the J2EE servers than Tomcat.
You completely misunderstand XDoc. There is no DTD for XDoc. XDoc is not an XML format. It is an application that can edit XML, using arbitrary user-defined schema.
XDocs is an XML editor. It really has very little to do with output formats like PDF. The only company likely to be sweating about this product is Altova.
I don't care if JavaScript can only be used client side for web sites. There are a whole lot of websites, and a whole lot of clients. Besides, the more processing I can keep off of my server the better.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm a consultant, and when I need to write a server-side ASP script, I do it in JavaScript. IIS supports server-side JavaScript* out of the box.
* Note: for purposes of the above message, JavaScript = JScript = ECMAScript
I agree with this rant about programming. However, since when has computer science had anything to do with programming? I'm not a CS student myself, but I've taken a handful of graduate-level CS classes. I've found that at that level, programming is secondary to the subject matter.
Depends on where you are, I guess. I came from a University of California where CS was combined with electrical engineering, and was very theoretical. I'm in the Washington, D.C. area now, and the colleges around here are cranking out coders who are in a very thin stratus: they ONLY know programming. They don't know large systems architecture, and they certainly don't know what's going on at machine-code level, much less anything about compiler theory, etc.
One CS guy I know, just out of college, gives me blank stares when I offer advice to "use a hash table" or "use a FIFO queue"--he just says "well, here's how I'd do it in PHP". If you can only think in terms of a single language, and don't fully understand the more abstract structures you're implementing, you're short on the "science" part of Computer Science, IMHO.
To be fair, this may be happening elsewhere, too, but it's a crying shame in any case.
He had no answer as to how the charities are able to reprogram them for battered women's shelters.
Simple answer: they don't. Even without subscribed service, the phone companies put through 911 calls. At least in my area. This is the only function the battered women's centers use.
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Your comment isn't entirely fair.
Sure, you can do all that in Perl, but only because someone has bothered to write the appropriate CPAN modules for you. That's not the same as saying you can't do those things in PHP.
Ah, but that's my point. What is it you think I like about Perl? The syntax? Um, no. It's the sheer productivity from having a huge, exhaustive list of modules available.
If PHP or Python had something equivalent to CPAN, I'd probably switch. But doggone it, I'm addicted to being mega-productive.
Write modules in C for extra speed?
A few examples:
Parse and create binary Excel files, even on Unix?
Automate your smart home?
Configure a linux packet-filtering firewall?
Monitor SNMP devices across the enterprise?
Perform various System Administration tasks?
Program using the Win32 API?
Write for extra speed?
Write native GUI apps in windows or unix/linux?
There are over 4000 other reasons in the module repository known as CPAN.
I use several languages, but when I want to be productive, I turn to Perl because of CPAN. Generally, I have 80% of my code nicely abstracted in object-oriented modules. (Note to OO purists: bugger off, we're comparing to PHP not Scheme or Eiffel or whatever)
Why 11 vs 10 digits? I can only think of two reasons. Either there are enough area codes in the local area that they don't want to waste the exchange codes, or they need a new area code and don't want to force the people who have it as their exchange to change their 7-digit number.
I don't think that matters. There's no reason why someone with an exchange of 688 can't also get an area code of 688, since you always have to dial 11 digits. 1-688-688-5555
I thought of two other reasons:
1. Simply more 'address space'. You go from approx. 10^10 to 10^11 possible combinations. They don't want to have to reconfigure their systems anytime soon!
2. Simpler programming of telco equipment. If you dial a 1, then expect a ten-digit number. Other initial digits (such as the "4" in "411") will be service numbers.
Except that they don't tell you how it works, and it looks like a controller mounted on the handlebars. This just may be expensive duct tape.
You want to give "poor developing countries" internet access? Don't you think we should spend more time actually developing these places before we start laying in the luxuries? ... Yeah, let's build a community center in BFE for a group of people who don't have running water
Why not? Then they can buy water on eBay!
My Mac (a Quadra 610) plugs directly into Ethernet, but I have a short PhoneNet run from my Apple IIGS (and occasionally an Apple IIe) into a Cayman GatorBox CS. Through the GatorBox, the GS can access files on the Mac or on the Linux server, and Marinetti [sourceforge.net] adds Internet access (with clients for Telnet, FTP, and some other services available) over the same connection (the GatorBox acts as a MacIP gateway).
My god... that was all present tense. That's scary.
and it is ip/h2o, not h2o/ip...
Well, it should be H2O-232 because it's more like a serial protocol. It's not bidirectional, so no handshaking is possible.
Hey, my dad works for Alexa Internet (a few stories back), I was pretty amazed to see that there (the company is probably around 50-100 people).
Well, let's see.. my dad knows Dean Kamen, who has appeared on Slashdot many times. Only five more steps to... Kevin Bacon. WOOHOO!
If Perl had an IDE that was as easy to use it would dominate the world. (more than it already does).
There are many. Others have mentioned Komodo and the Visual Perl plugin for Visual Studio.NET.
There's also Perl Builder, which people rave about but I have not tried. They claim to be the most popular Perl IDE.
I would also like to add that an Open Source one, Open Perl IDE is decent. I use it at home.
I use Komodo at work (because it can act as an IDE for other languages like XSLT) and really like the Perl and Regular Expression debuggers.
-bp
seems quite difficult to give the actual feedback without the sound. moreover, wouldn't the sound be an important factor in the feedback you speak about?
The feedback he speaks about is tactile. And no, sound is not a factor at all.
Compared to Weblogic and especially Websphere, it's so incredibly simple it's silly. (Websphere especially is a *nightmare* to install and configure.)
If all you need is a servlet container, you shouldn't even consider Weblogic or Websphere--overkill. You would have been better off using JRun as a comparison point, although the latest versions of JRun bring it closer to the J2EE servers than Tomcat.
You completely misunderstand XDoc. There is no DTD for XDoc. XDoc is not an XML format. It is an application that can edit XML, using arbitrary user-defined schema.
XDocs is an XML editor. It really has very little to do with output formats like PDF. The only company likely to be sweating about this product is Altova.
I don't care if JavaScript can only be used client side for web sites. There are a whole lot of websites, and a whole lot of clients. Besides, the more processing I can keep off of my server the better.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm a consultant, and when I need to write a server-side ASP script, I do it in JavaScript. IIS supports server-side JavaScript* out of the box.
* Note: for purposes of the above message, JavaScript = JScript = ECMAScript
I had problems with the buggy VBA. It didn't work for me.
Did you try their support?
YAWC Pro (http://www.yawcpro.com/)
This can output XML according to any DTD (by default it uses the Simplified DocBook DTD).
I agree with this rant about programming. However, since when has computer science had anything to do with programming? I'm not a CS student myself, but I've taken a handful of graduate-level CS classes. I've found that at that level, programming is secondary to the subject matter.
Depends on where you are, I guess. I came from a University of California where CS was combined with electrical engineering, and was very theoretical. I'm in the Washington, D.C. area now, and the colleges around here are cranking out coders who are in a very thin stratus: they ONLY know programming. They don't know large systems architecture, and they certainly don't know what's going on at machine-code level, much less anything about compiler theory, etc.
One CS guy I know, just out of college, gives me blank stares when I offer advice to "use a hash table" or "use a FIFO queue"--he just says "well, here's how I'd do it in PHP". If you can only think in terms of a single language, and don't fully understand the more abstract structures you're implementing, you're short on the "science" part of Computer Science, IMHO.
To be fair, this may be happening elsewhere, too, but it's a crying shame in any case.
They're advertizing $50-$100 off a new phone if you trade in an old one.
But if you don't have a trade-in, the discount maxes out at $100.
He had no answer as to how the charities are able to reprogram them for battered women's shelters.
Simple answer: they don't. Even without subscribed service, the phone companies put through 911 calls. At least in my area. This is the only function the battered women's centers use.
This is not a generation NeXt place and we do not discuss colas or how to get girls for geeks
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Jrun 4.0 is EOL.
Can you provide proof of this? Or is this conjecture?
Oh yeah? My Epson PhotoPC can do 13,000,000 "pixel combinations". So it's just as good as the new camera!
This is the first "beowulf-cluster" joke that has made me laugh in a long time.