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  1. Re:Creative commons! on Ask Slashdot: Best Copyright Terms For a Thesis? · · Score: 2

    CC-BY-ND is what I used for my thesis. Given that the default copyright status of any work such as a thesis is "all rights reserved", I don't see how this can be a bad thing: it's just an explicit waiver of certain rights. Attribution and originality are considered important in a typical "western" academic environment (maybe elsewhere also -- I wouldn't know), and that's all the "BY" and "ND" parts assert. In fact, the "BY" and "ND" parts are intended to preserve the integrity of the work for the sake of clarity in future references: if there's an interesting remark in there that you want to quote, it's important that you have a proper reference for it (BY) and that you can be reasonably sure it's what the author actually said (ND). Just slapping a CC-BY-ND on it doesn't magically make it happen, of course, but it expresses the intended use well.

    In response to the sibling reply "ND? you're on crack", it's already considered fair use to quote other works in context, regardless of copyright licenses, so it's not like the "ND" part can take that away. I just want to grant the additional right to redistribute the work, for any reason, so long as attribution is preserved. I want it to be publicly available.

  2. Re:Responsibility on Google's Real Name Policy, Why You Are the Product · · Score: 1

    I'm unaware of any company that feels responsible to their product.

    The example that sprang to my mind was recruitment agents. As a contractor, I'm the kind of product that recruitment agents deal in. I don't know whether they feel responsible to me, as such, but I'm pretty sure they're aware of the fact that I will cease to be their product if I feel that they are not operating sufficiently in my interests. I expect that Google is somewhat aware of that dynamic, as relates to its own "product", although they aren't showing too much evidence of it with the G+ thing. Mind you, there's a lack of competition in social networking: G+ doesn't need to be the perfect social network -- it just needs to be sufficiently less obnoxious than Facebook, and Facebook has set the bar pretty low.

  3. Get better informed on Linus Thinks Virtualization Is 'Evil' · · Score: 1

    OpenVZ and Linux-VServer support separate IP addresses as very basic functionality. How do you suppose hosting providers create virtual private servers based on them if they don't? OpenVZ also supports private iptables per container, so that you can set up per-container firewalls. The main problem with containers is the staggering amount of ignorance about the subject.

  4. Is there a compelling case for EPUB? on Is Free Software Ready For E-publishing? · · Score: 1

    My version of e-publishing was, "write the thesis in LaTeX, output in PDF via pdfLaTeX, and upload the PDF to Google Books." Instant global accessibility for anyone that wants it (well, instant after the processing period) -- certainly a heck of a lot better than any exposure my University can offer, although I gave them the PDF too, and they supposedly make it available somewhere. It's not EPUB, sure, and I would convert it to other formats if I felt that the effort was worth it, but maximising availability was more important to me than making it convenient for small form-factor e-book readers. I considered EPUB, but I feel that PDF is good enough, particularly given the effort that went into making it look nice in its published dimensions.

    If I were going to write another book, however, I'd finish my half-baked "writer's mark-up language" project first. It's a markup language designed to be writer-friendly, medium-agnostic, and readily translated into other forms like HTML and LaTeX for actual rendering. I don't have any immediate plans to write another book, though: writing the thesis has taken the edge off my enthusiasm for the subject for now.

  5. Sir, step away from the key generator on Ask Slashdot: Is SHA-512 the Way To Go? · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It sounds like you have an oversimplified idea of "security". Security is not a scalar property that increases with the number of bits in a hash or key. Security depends on your threats, and it's possible to be reasonably secure without the addition of any cryptography at all (although this will be the exception rather than the rule). Let's discuss security threats for a moment.

    One threat is that of the eavesdropper. This is the classic threat from online shopping: "OMG, some hacker will see my CC number when I submit it to the shop." This threat can be defeated with encryption -- sort of. You don't need any kind of "certificate" to effect this level of security: you just need a key-sharing technique which defeats a passive eavesdropper. SSL/TLS has this, and it's independent of the number of bits in any hash, since that's a different part of the security puzzle.

    Now the bad news: your CC number will still be compromised, despite your super-strong encryption. If you're using a malware-prone OS, then any malware on your system makes an end-run around the encryption. If you're using a public terminal, you need to be sure that it doesn't have keyloggers installed on it, either hardware or software. And even if your client-end computer isn't compromised, your CC number will be stored in a PCI-compliant database, where "PCI-compliant" means "this kind of thing gets compromised several times a week, leaking X thousand CC numbers in one go" for large values of X.

    Encryption of the channel, in this case, provides security against the least convenient and least likely attack. You should probably encrypt the channel anyhow, but you simply can not achieve security, because most of the real threats lie outside your control.

    Another threat is the impostor. This is where someone gets lured into going to BadGuy website which is dressed up as GoodGuy website. This is where public key certificates are supposed to help, and that's where you need to worry about how many bits there are in the hash. But if you're worried about the number of bits in the hash, or the kind of hash algorithm, then you're probably fussing over the smallest of problems. Certificates have a very limited lifespan, and so long as your current one isn't at the bottom of the pile, strength-wise, it's probably satisfactory for now.

    The real problems that you face in this case are usually beyond your control. You can't create a self-signed certificate in general, because every browser on earth will throw up a warning (that 99% of users won't understand anyway) saying that the certificate can not be verified. You don't want that: you want the browser to do the "I'm secure now" thing, whatever that happens to be, visually. So you'll need to pay up for a certificate. Unfortunately, your clients must then be smart enough to pick the difference between your website with its "I'm secure now" indicator, and an exact copy of that website which lacks this indicator at a different URL, or one that has an "I'm secure now" indicator which doesn't match your identity. How smart are your clients?

    If you're a really important target (e.g. Gmail), you have much bigger worries. You ask, "Can I trust that my SSL provider hasn't been hacked (or at least snooped)?", but the problem is much worse than this: you need to trust that every issuer of certificates on Earth hasn't been compromised, which you can't, because some of them have. When any certificate issuer is compromised, it's possible that a fake certificate has been generated for your identity, and someone else can set up a server which validates itself as "secure" for your domain name. There are browser add-ons in some cases that will raise a red flag when a "valid but previously unseen" certificate is shown, but then you're asking for even greater security expertise on the part of your end users to diagnose the situation.

    So, in summary, step away from the key-generation software, and go back to square one. Think about your threat model, and whether any of your crypto-

  6. Re:just like /.? on Peer Review Highly Sensitive To Poor Refereeing · · Score: 1

    I've long thought there should be a "-1, Disagree" option in the drop-down box that takes a mod point but has no effect.

    It should have an effect, but not the effect of reducing the comment's score in the usual way. The most fragile aspect of the Slashdot moderation system is that you wind up with a scalar result generated by a small number of people with a small possible range. This means that controversial posts are subject to wide changes mostly depending on the last three people to moderate the comment. You can get +5 insightful on a comment and be modded back down to oblivion if you've made an unpopular point.

    But I'm getting tangential here. In practical terms, maybe we could have a separate ranking system for agreement which doesn't require mod points, it just requires an account. The only effect of the thing would be to show a statistical summary of the results. That, at least, would provide an outlet for disagreement without starting a flamewar. The scale could be from -2 to +2, showing the degree of agreement, with the only effect being its contribution to the histogram.

  7. Web site *attribution* is wrong on Geocentrists Convene To Discuss How Galileo Was Wrong · · Score: 1

    Catholic] Church's historical position on the immobility of the Earth...

    The summary should read, "the ancient Greek position on the immobility of the Earth..." They had this stuff figured out before Jesus was even born. We associate geocentricism with the Catholic church simply because they put so much effort into reconciling the text of the Bible with the science of the day (which was Geocentricism).

    And yes, that's what the Roman Catholic Church is doing again with evolution. Who knows -- give it another thousand years, and maybe people will be scoffing at the old Catholic idea of evolution through mutation and natural selection.

  8. Re:The hidden factor: two distinct licenses on Court Says First Sale Doctrine Doesn't Apply To Licensed Software · · Score: 1

    US Code Title 17, Chapter 1, 117a, which specifically says that the owner of a copy of a computer program is not infringing when they make additional copies as necessary to utilize and/or archive that program.

    Well that's genuinely fascinating, but it raises as many questions as it answers. The linchpin of these cases seems to centre around whether software is owned or licensed, with the copyright holders asserting (as in this case) that the arrangement is the latter. This still suggests a dichotomy between the media (which is purchased outright) and the software on it (which is licensed, not owned).

    So does lawful ownership of the media on which the software lawfully resides imply ownership of the software for the purposes of the statute you cite? If so, then what right is the EULA granting that one did not already have? Or is it accepted legal doctrine that when one purchases software at retail, one is not actually becoming the owner of the physical goods so purchased?

    Or, to put it another way, if EULAs are not enforced by the mechanism I suggest, then how do they constitute a license rather than an unenforceable contract? Exactly what right, reserved by copyright, is the licensor granting so that the purchaser may lawfully use the software?

  9. Here's what's so bad about the ruling. on Court Says First Sale Doctrine Doesn't Apply To Licensed Software · · Score: 1

    The terrible thing about the ruling is that it uses copyright law.

    When CTA received the physical media for AutoCAD R14, did they become the owners of the physical media (as distinct from the software), or did the media remain the exclusive property of AutoCAD? If the media belonged to AutoCAD, then presumably this would have been prosecuted as a case of stolen property, so I'm assuming that CTA did in fact become the rightful owners of the media. The media was manufactured under license from AutoCAD, so the media is not an unlicensed copy. There is no question of unlicensed goods here so far.

    I accept that CTA violated its contractual obligations when it sold the media, rather than destroying it. That should provide grounds for AutoCAD to sue CTA for consequent damages, which should include at least the value for which the goods were sold. However, it SHOULD NOT terminate the license on the physical media: the goods do not become infringing, unlicensed goods due to a contract violation. The only question that should be relevant to copyright in this case was whether the goods themselves were manufactured under license. Allowing a copyright holder to retroactively un-license the production of a copy is a recipe for abuse.

    This is awfully close to the case which established the doctrine of first sale, if an earlier poster's summary of that case is accurate enough. I'll quote the relevant part here.

    In that case, Bobbs-Merill sold books to wholesalers their copyrighted book including a "shrinkwrap" license saying retailers shall not sell the book below a certain price. Wholesalers sold the books to retailers. Retailers sold the books below the certain price to consumers. The Court held that the license was not binding upon the retailers because there was no privity of contract between the retailers and Bobbs-Merill. This is true: there was only privity of contract between Bobbs-Merill and the wholesalers. And as the license only purported to bind retailers, the wholesalers did not violate the terms of the license either.

    That comment argued against the relevance of the first sale doctrine in this case, but let me construct a counter-argument. What Bobbs-Merill should have done in their "shrink-wrap" license is require that the wholesaler also produce a "shrink-wrap" license to bind the retailers. If the wholesaler had failed to bind the retailers, then the books would retroactively become unlicensed reproductions and illegal to sell; if the wholesaler had bound the retailers, then the retailers would be so bound. "First sale" be damned: you can drive a truck full of books through that loophole.

    Arguably all this nonsense can take place without getting copyright involved at all. The difference is that your contracts need to be explicit -- not the unilateral terms shenanigans of a shrink-wrap license -- and the dispute remains a dispute between the signatories to the contract, without the cascading effect of copyright infringement on each subsequent transaction (despite the fact that the goods were originally produced under license). No doubt copyright owners like the power offered by shrink-wrap licenses, and being able to sue a whole bunch of extra people for copyright infringement is just adding more power on top.

  10. The hidden factor: two distinct licenses on Court Says First Sale Doctrine Doesn't Apply To Licensed Software · · Score: 1

    How would that be any different? How would that be at all legal, based on existing contract law?

    The theory goes something like this. In order to produce a physical medium which contains software, one must have a license to do so, obviously enough. This is what limits sale of unlicensed ("pirated") copies. But wait, there's more. Having purchased a duly licensed physical copy of the software, you require a further license to actually execute the software, because you'd need to copy the software off the medium and into a computer's memory (and probably onto your hard disk too) in order to actually use it. You don't have that right unless the copyright owner specifically grants it -- or so goes the logic behind the EULA.

    Two ramifications follow. One is that the industrial machinery you talked about is different in that it does not require a further act of copying in order to operate it -- assuming the device is purely mechanical. Of course, a manufacturer that wanted to pull that particular stunt could do so by making the device partly software based -- and what device of any complexity isn't at least a little software based these days? All you need to do is ensure that the program code must be copied from A to B as part of execution (e.g. off disk to RAM), and you can sell the license for this act of copying under whatever terms and conditions you like! Your Machiavellian manufacturer then places an EULA in the box which admits that you own the physical atoms therein, but reserves the rights in the software it contains, offering you the license to make copies as necessary to execute the software under its choice of terms and conditions. The ability to actually use the machine for its intended purpose is thus subject to the terms of the EULA.

    The second ramification is the problem of equivocation which seems to be the root problem behind the Autodesk issue. There are TWO licenses. The parties in the case seem to be arguing about different licenses, and arguing as though these are the same license, when they are not. The physical media on which the software is sold (along with any manuals and packaging) are covered by one particular license. They were manufactured under license, and that license is not revocable by any doctrine of which I (and IANAL) am aware. Thus the doctrine of first sale. The license necessary to install (making a persistent copy) and run (making a volatile copy) the software are totally separate, covered by the EULA. It's completely fair that Autodesk terminate the second license on sale of the physical media: this is what prevents people from buying, installing, and re-selling, while continuing to use the software. It might even be fair (in a loose sense of "fair") for them to say that the second license is not transferable with sale of the media, but this does not render the media itself "unlicensed" -- that was license #1, and it's tied to the media for life.

    My conclusion: the re-sale of the media should be permitted under the doctrine of first sale, with the understanding that the media no longer carries the necessary license to use the software. The sale should not be prohibited, because there are still valid reasons to purchase the media, even without the license. First among these is the desire to purchase a back-up copy or replacement copy in the case where someone already has license #2. It's also conceivable (albeit odd) that someone wants to purchase the media without intending to run it, or (more likely) they live in a jurisdiction (outside the USA, obviously) where the law does not recognise the need for license #2 -- it is considered implicit, because without it the goods are not fit for the purpose they are sold.

    sudo mod me insightful

  11. Re:Solution in search of a problem on Why Wave Failed · · Score: 1

    Not only was it a solution in need of a problem, but the whole user interface left me baffled as to what it actually did. It's a nasty example of attempting user friendliness by giving things cutesy names, while giving the user absolutely no insight into what the things do. They made exactly the same mistake with Buzz, only worse, because they dropped that right into Gmail with everything turned on and automatically buzzing everything. At least with Buzz I actually managed to figure out what it was and how to use it, and thereby conclude that I didn't want or need it (although I wouldn't have nuked it to oblivion if they'd made it unobtrusive in the first place). With Wave, I still don't know what it does, how to use it, or whether it would actually be of any use to me in any conceivable circumstance. I tried and failed, so how well can the folks who don't live and breathe technology have fared?

  12. Re:Makes sense on What Scientists Really Think About Religion · · Score: 1

    How about Bulverism (a kind of ad hominem)? This has to be one of the better examples I've seen in the wild. It's almost a categorical Bulverism (rather than a personal ad hominem one): the argument being that only the religious would defend religion; the religious are always wrong about their beliefs; and you have defended religion, are therefore religious, and therefore wrong! Damn watertight argument, that -- unless you question the premises, of course.

  13. Re:Makes sense on What Scientists Really Think About Religion · · Score: 1

    The core principles of science are that you can NEVER PROVE a single thing. You can ONLY DISPROVE hypotheses through experimentation.

    A disproof is a form of proof. If you disprove A = B, you have proved NOT (A = B). In fact, it's generally necessary to prove something in order to disprove something else.

    This whole "science can't prove, it can only disprove" slogan is the ironic catch-cry of the scientific rationalist, so blinded by hatred of religion that he's failed to realise it's a self-contradiction. Dawkins is a lot like this in general: he's so vehement that Science is the only form of knowledge that he doesn't realise he's supporting his position with bad Philosophy.

  14. Re:HA! on Calendar Bug Disables Older PlayStation 3 Models · · Score: 1

    My paid-for copy of PixelJunk Monsters is inviting me to buy the full version, and you think this has nothing to do with DRM? Clearly we are using incompatible definitions of the term. There has been some kind of license-key-management screw-up precipitated by this bug. Regardless of the actual mechanism, that makes it a DRM issue.

  15. Re:HA! on Calendar Bug Disables Older PlayStation 3 Models · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What does it have to do with DRM?

    The DRM for games purchased on PlayStation Network seems to require that it be able to phone home and validate everything before it lets you play the game. This is impacting all of the games I've tested so far which were purchased from the PlayStation Network. Many of them just fail with an inscrutable error message ("Error HEXADECIMALSOUP") and refuse to start up. Others give you "demo version" mode and behave like you need to purchase the full product still.

    Calendar bugs are one thing, but DRM which fails and locks you out of a bunch of stuff you paid for in the presence of such a bug is another thing entirely. If Sony gives me a nice discount voucher or PSN credit by way of apology for this inconvenience, I'll be less peeved, but I get the feeling that Sony (and their ilk) consider their self-rights-protection technology to be so damned important that no amount of inconvenience on the part of their paying customers is too much to ask. They'd be more concerned if a calendar bug allowed you to bypass all that license-key crap.

  16. Re:A partial solution: on Beliefs Conform To Cultural Identities · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are quite right to point out the role of "weighting". One does not simply take all the observations, place them in a machine, and let the conclusion fall out. We make personal choices about what to observe and what to ignore, which things are important and which aren't, and so on. The article does not demonstrate faulty reasoning on anyone's part when it says, "they reject the information that is contrary to what they would like to believe, and they glom onto the positive information." This merely demonstrates subjective values-based weighting of incoming data -- an unavoidable necessity in many cases.

    That's not to say that people are always consistent in their application of weighting. There are examples aplenty of people misunderstanding measurement data (particularly statistical data) such that they reach exactly the wrong conclusion given their stated intentions. You're probably familiar with the examples, like the problem of dealing with false positives when testing for a rare condition, or whatever. In these cases, mathematics has something to say about how you apply your weights -- maybe you need to use Bayes' theorem -- and people are notoriously bad at reaching the right conclusion intuitively. This brings me to...

    One is not arrogant for believing one's reasoning is reliable, that is a necessity and a consequence of reasoning itself.

    It would be a necessary consequence for an agent capable of perfect reasoning. We humans, on the other hand, tend to make incomplete arguments, admit unnoticed errors, and generally overlook faults so long as the conclusions came out the way we wanted or were expecting. One should therefore append the caveat, "but it's likely I've screwed up somewhere AGAIN, so please check my reasoning" to all one's conclusions.

  17. Re:A partial solution: on Beliefs Conform To Cultural Identities · · Score: 2, Informative

    Humans can, and do, come to conclusions without bias.

    But not without premises and axioms. In mathematics and formal logic, premises (or "givens") and axioms are clearly stated (or understood by convention). Those who accept the axioms will grant the conclusions which follow from the premises or givens, assuming the intermediate steps are all valid. If someone does not accept the axioms, then they reject the proof. There is no such thing as an unconditionally incontrovertible statement.

    We see this a lot in science (by no means always)...

    Actually, we never see it in science. Once you depart from the abstract realm of logic and mathematics, you start piling up assumptions which can't be dealt with formally. Introducing "observation" into the mix opens up a mighty big can of worms. Conclusions are reached, to be sure, but these are quite a different beast from the "conclusion" found at the end of a mathematical or logical proof.

    If everybody knew how to think, we wouldn't have any of the associated junk like PETA...

    And there you've moved further afield, because the subject is now ethics -- a subject which seems to be innately intuitive or subjectively experienced. Even there the problem is not logic, but one of disagreement over premises and valid applications. It's trivial to construct a logical argument in favour of PETA-style extremism, given the right premises. One of those premises might be something along the lines of "the genetic difference between humans and animals is not ethically significant". This, being a statement about ethics, is not something which can be subjected to test in the usual manner of science or mathematics.

    I agree with you that people need to learn enough logic to engage in some decent critical thinking. I am also of the opinion that some people who are decently acquainted with logic need to be educated in the limits of its application to real-world problems like ethics, politics, and girlfriends.

  18. Re:A partial solution: on Beliefs Conform To Cultural Identities · · Score: 1

    ...you throw the baby out with the bath water when you assert that ... rationalism (and presumably, all other epistemological frameworks as well) is nothing more than a convenient way to disguise one's biases.

    I didn't assert that, and it wasn't the message I was trying to convey. The message I was trying to convey was primarily, "we take ourselves too seriously, and think too highly of our own intellectual prowess."

    Having said that, I'd like to add that you still come pretty close to the mark. I don't think that epistemological frameworks of whatever stripe are chosen to deliberately conceal bias. I don't need to be anywhere that conspiratorial about things. I would merely point out that those who have chosen to side with a particular school of epistemology have done so primarily as a matter of cultural bias or taste. People have epistemic frameworks -- albeit fuzzy ones, perhaps -- before they encounter the concept of epistemology. If and when they learn a little about the subject, they will tend to find that some school of thought or other is a good match for their way of thinking, and adopt it. The action isn't intended to conceal bias, but it does tend to have that effect, because it's now an external set of principles to which the person subscribes, rather than an internal set of biases.

    Following on from this, those with an above-average awareness of epistemology (the average is approximately "total ignorance") may find themselves drawn further into the arrogance trap -- that trap being the main problem to which I want to draw attention. Why would this be the case, you ask? It's like the old adage about tasks taking twice as long as you expect them to take unless you plan carefully -- in which case things take three times as long, because you overestimate how much your careful planning will help things. A person who has considered various epistemic frameworks and chosen a particular one may consider their own thought processes to have been greatly improved by this care and attention -- further inflating an already inflated view of their own epistemic reliability.

    I don't deny that we humans are all, by our very nature, incapable of 100% pure rational thought. However, most of us are, at least, capable of short spurts of mostly rational thought. Unless you believe that all of mankind's progress over the last few thousand years can be attributed to the "monkeys with typewriters" effect, I don't see how you can conclude that rationalism and biased thinking are merely two sides of the same coin.

    Most of us are capable of sustained application of modestly rational thought, though I sometimes think we succeed to the extent that we do despite our incompetence rather than because of our brilliance -- perhaps exposing me as a "glass half empty" kind of person. The problem arises when we cling to the idea that those who disagree with us (whether on climate change, evolution, political leanings, or whatever) do so because their application of reason (or whatever other term one gives to "Right Thinking") is either simply inferior to ours, or wilfully violated because of some sinister agenda. Applying a term like "magical thinking" is often just a way to make that diagnosis of "inferior reasoning" sound irrefutable.

  19. Re:A partial solution: on Beliefs Conform To Cultural Identities · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As if religion is the only place this occurs or the only reason why people think what they think.

    You start well, but you don't go far enough. It's not just "fringe environmentalism" and other fringes where this is a problem. It's a pervasive problem throughout human thinking generally, and it is just as likely to impact mainstream science as it is the fringes. To compound the problem, humans are notoriously blind to their own biases, tending to think that their evaluation of matters is rather objective and well-founded, and that any reasonable person should come to the same conclusions. This is why people are inclined to label those with radically different views as either mentally incompetent or maliciously deceptive. These two factors intertwine: most people want to believe they are right, and so selectively see the evidence supporting the hypothesis that they are.

    The grandparent post used the term "magical thinking" -- a term that I associate with Dr Wallace Breen from Half Life 2. I submit that "magical thinking" is just a rationalist pejorative applied to the thought processes of those with whom they disagree. In other words, "magical thinking" is what those people do: the people who hold fast to some ridiculous theory. After all, thinks the rationalist, I used evidence and reasoning and came to a totally different conclusion, so their methods must consist of woolly thinking at best.

    So long as everyone is just arrogant enough to assume that their own reasoning is pretty darn reliable, this problem will persist. Maybe we should all practice a little more recreational sophistry in the hope that it will teach us to take our own straight-faced in-earnest theories a little less seriously.

  20. Re:How's NAT64 coming along? on IPv4 Free Pool Drops Below 10%, 1.0.0.0/8 Allocated · · Score: 1

    People without dual stack will be in for a hard awakening the day servers start appearing with only v6 because they couldn't afford a v4.

    Not nearly as hard as the poor schmucks who can't afford the IPv4 address on the server.

  21. Re:Morality and faeries on Ireland's Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect · · Score: 1

    Would you be ok with "I don't want to anyone else to suffer, what I am not willing to suffer." Or " I do not want to inflict misery on others, because I don't want anyone to inflict misery onto myself".

    If you are expressing a matter of taste -- of personal preference -- then you need not refer to anything supernatural: you are simply describing an aspect of your own mentality, like your tastes in music. If, on the other hand, you are saying, "I ought not inflict misery on others," then you need to explain the factual basis of the "ought". Such an explanation will, I submit, rely on a faerie of some sort. Note that matters of taste do not really allow for "right" and "wrong" in the moral sense. If you merely dislike slavery as a matter of taste, it's inappropriate to call it a moral wrong, since "moral wrong" implies that someone ought not do it.

  22. Re:Morality and faeries on Ireland's Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect · · Score: 1

    Or you could read up about how brains work, and note that it's wrong because human brains (at least locally) are programmed to believe it's wrong.

    Does belief in wrongness make the wrongness factual? Does belief in a god make the god factual? In any case, not all brains work that way (e.g. psychopaths) -- or with regard to slavery as an example, those who profit from it rarely consider it a moral wrong. We can defend a purely subjective morality on this basis, such that morality is whatever each individual decides it is, because such a defence is vacuous, requiring nothing. The fact that certain brains are programmed to hold a particular moral attitude towards certain actions tells us nothing of morality as a real and separate entity, however: it gives us no basis to determine whether such a brain is programmed "correctly" or "incorrectly", if such terms can be applied at all.

  23. Heresy! on Ireland's Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect · · Score: 1

    There is no god, and Mohammed is his prophet.

    Heresy! Richard Dawkins is his prophet.

  24. Morality and faeries on Ireland's Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect · · Score: 1

    You can have ethics, you can even have morals, but certain kinds of moral truths require the existence of something vaguely supernatural. Suppose you are the sort of atheist who expresses a general disbelief in the supernatural. We might better describe you as a philosophical materialist or physicalist (major premise: the physical is all that exists), but atheism is a logical consequence of that position (minor premise: God is not physical; conclusion: God does not exist). This constrains your views on morality, since you can not appeal to a non-physical moral truth. Suppose you believe that slavery is morally wrong, for example. You would need to demonstrate the validity of this assertion by reference to something physical. You might point to the misery suffered by the enslaved, but that simply raises the need to prove that inflicting misery on others is morally wrong. If you find yourself reaching a point where you say, "it's self-evident", or "it's just wrong", then you are either appealing to your own judgement -- a mere opinion -- or a non-physical, supernatural truth, which you claim to observe somehow. Don't underestimate the difficulty of this position: what kind of evidence could you even present to decide between "it's morally wrong to inflict misery on others" and its contradiction?

    So, in short, it's possible to have ethics without believing in a faerie, but you'll have a dickens of a time trying to give that ethical framework more significance than your personal taste in music without invoking the existence of some kind of faerie. If your ethics simply amounts to your own personal code of conduct, then no faeries are required. If you think it applies more generally, then there's a faerie in your framework somewhere.

  25. An example of what you say... on Ireland's Blasphemy Law Goes Into Effect · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anything that is legally blasphemous and arouses public or state ire will be.

    Blasphemy was the charge that got Jesus crucified.