The RED Book revisted! Seriously, if you want to become a Unix admin, there are 4 books you must study.
1. The Red Book (this book second edition, I guess now it is the purple book)
2. The Blue Book (O'Rielly's Unix System Admin book)
3. The Small Book (The Unix Philosophy by Mike Gancarz published by Digital Press)
4. The Drill Book (O'Rielly's Unix Power Tools, picture of drill on front).
I think if someone can study and know everything in those books by memory, they will have a good start at unix admin-ing. Also need a good book on your unix of choice, the man pages, and more than anything using the system.
The point being, this book is famous, it is a really good book and is required reading for anyone wanting to get into unix admin-ing.
I can't believe they changed the color! The 2 admin books where the red and blue books. Now it will be the purple and blue books, that isn't as catchy.
There is also a DOD red book on security and IBM produces a lot of "red books", so it gets confusing, but most admin know what you are talking about.
I paid I think $90 for this book at borders. It was worth it.
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damit man, your link sucks, there is like 5 dam pop up windows. At least link to a respectable porn site!
This box sounds really sweet and all, I think the fact they are going to have a more widely acessiable api and development envoirment is going to be a good thing. Also in terms of horsepower, this kicks the crap out of my PC at home, my workstation at work!
The thing I am wondering though, is sure this is a whole alot-a juice in a little box, but what price tag are they think about here?
Why couldn't a school just "build" there own internet accessiable "free drive"? I don't think it would be really to hard to do, and work work on any internet connected device with a decent web browser (Unix, Mac, Windows, BEos, etc).
Have a thoughly thought out and well place backup plan for all user data.
Cost should be that much of a cost. The server could be had pretty cheap, hard drives are really cheap ((60gigs IDE ~ $400) == really cheap raid). and most bigger schools already have enough bandwidth to prograte a gig of metallica sounds to napster a day.
The only problem that would arise, would be not all students have access to an internet connected computer.
For example, most of the data would be flowing from-to computer labs, campus libaries, dorm rooms, most of this are connected. But what happens when the student goes home from break and needs to work on their term paper from their parents house on a non-connected device?
This could address 90% of the problem. For the people that it doesn't address give them a "So you want to use a floppy?" manual, clean the drivers, make them clean their drives on the other end, use high quality floppies (and many of them) and store them in differant fashions.
You can also put them in the freezer (both floppy and hard drive) for 1-10 minutes to help restore data.
But it will KILL it. About half way though (or just seconds after) the data is dumped, the media goes south
Don't try this
For a reference to this, check "Upgrading and Repair PC 8th edition" by Scott (Steve??) Mullear. (Mullar??). It is a big fat book around 1000-2000 pages.
Don't flame me because the syntax, if you really want to do this, clean it up. It has been awhile and I am fscking tried.
#!/usr/bin/perl
$user = "me";
# I know this is the wrong sytnax for xterm
# but there is an option to change the font size
# Just do that, and set the window size and
# maybe color, check the man page for correct
# Syntax
# This takes parameters, I forget though
# just get a random whole number between 1-59
while ($random = int (rand()))
{
$pid = `ps aux | grep $user | grep xterm | wc -l`;
# 2 isn't the correct parameter, look at thedoc
# just pull the minutes out of local time
$minute = localtime(2);
if ( ($minute == $random) && ($pid >= 5) )
{ system ("$xterm"); }
sleep (55);
}
exit;
The syntax is messed up, but you get the idea:)
Actucally this might be fun to install on users work stations.:)
You idiot, ever here of VPN? of coarse the have an isolated Intranet
They DON'T have an isolated network, proof of this? Someone just stole (or had the possiablity to steal) their source code from their "isolated" network. How can it be "isolated" if someone from russia accessed it via the Internet? If the network is accessiable from outside their network, it isn't isolated you dumb fuck.
but they have to offer users remote access.
They don't have to do shit. If they do decide to offer users remote access, they should of considered the security considers and minimized them greatly.
Unplug the t1, you are so clueless,
It was a general statement. Like pull the plug on the computer, I realize there is more than one plug connected to a computer. I don't have a network diagram for their network, nor do I care, there is something connecting the developers to the rest of the world, whatever it is, pull it.
try multiple OC48's dipshit. And try monitoring 30,000 users internationaliy over a coperate network that puts most ISP's to shame.
Deny by default. At the firewall level, only accept from trusted hosts, kill and log everything else that even attempts to go though.
Site down write a perl script to parse the logs, create a graph in GD so you know where all your bandwidth is going.
If data is being transmitted/received to/from a unfamlair host (I think a Russian IP would stand out a little!!), look into it and find out what they doing.
It was a fuck up on the admin's part and you know it. It doesn't matter how many fucking lines they got coming in/out of there, it doesn't matter how many users they have or how complex it is, the concepts are the same.
It is the network admin's part in this, to maintain a secure network, no matter how complex it is, that is his job, that is what he gets paid for. If he can't do it, he should try getting a job a McDonalds.
It is the system admin's part in this, to maintain secure servers or any machine he is responiable for.
A big corp like Microsoft probably even spends a good deal of money on hiring security officers to make "extra" sure this type of stuff doesn't happen.
Someone didn't do their job. Plan and simple. Don't bitch about details.
I think you are correct, he used a small PDA to transfer and upload a trojan to a developers workstation, when the Sr. Developer was busy with he accidently got hot coffee poured on his cotch.
You'll never see an article about RedHat like this... "Yeah, they broke in and stole the source to our prize gem OS..."
AHEM the source code of Linux HAS already been stole, along with the full source of OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Minix and a couple others. Alot of warez sites like ftp.cdrom.com and ftp.tux.org have the code avaiable for download. The source code speard like wild fire and we don't have enough law enforcement to track down these hackers/warez. cheapbytes.com even sells CD-R of the source code for under $5 a peice.
Please know what you are talking about before posting this disinformation to slashdot.
mine had a 386 in it, I know for sure, cause i was trying to get Linux on it (before the support Micro Channel), and it did boot somewhat, but keep giving a kernel panic.
Why isn't the programmers development network complete seprate from the secretary's? Would the secretary be considered in the same "security class" as the lead developers of Windows ME?
1) Microsoft has complete unrestricted access to there own source
2) Microsoft is a billion dollar company and ALOT (atleast in their eyes) is at stake
3) They have enough money to higher decent security officers
4) These well-paid security officers should of secured the system and network
5) With people hired for the sole purpose of securing the network, the network should be somewhat more secure, no matter what OS they are running.
6) Why are there developemnt/ source code computer even avaiable on the Internet? Anyone every hear of firewall or internal network? Anyone think about just upluging the T1 from the internal network? Anyone think about requiring the security admins to read "Intro to network security"??
I am sorry to say, but this crack looks "so seventh grade or something"
7) Should Microsoft employees know how to use what software they are required to for there job (ie. outlook). Shouldn't of Microsoft employees be educated about basic security?
8) Where is any monitoring? "Hey Network Admin Bob, some ip in russian has been downloading megs of stuff from one of our internal machines? Is that normal?"
Microsoft views the security of there source code as "high value", the see the closedness of their source as their cash cow, yet they let someone 0wnZ them so easy.
I am not saying NT or W2k is more secure than Unix, etc, that is a broad and misleading statement. I am not saying Unix is more secure than NT, that is also to broad and misleading.
What I am saying is that any decent OS (this includes NT, W2K) should of not even had the chance to be owned like this. If there network was setup right, you could have had the most insecure OS running with default uid/pass for admin access and should not be spolitable like this (atleast from the internet).
It boggles the mind.
It not even like a 31337 crack, it is "hey I downloaded all this programs off the internet, you want to 0wnZ M$?"
The problem isn't with what OS it is running, the problem is that 1) the network admins no nothing about security 2) the system admins no nothing about security 3) the users no nothing about secuirty.
Even if they where running a "Ultra Secure" *cough*OpenBSD*cough* OS, if they hook their "important machines with highly classified information" up the the internet, they are just ASKING for trouble...
And someone please explain to me why the SYSTEM ADMIN was checking his email with the ADMIN account on a SECURE MACHINE. Then running an unknown program as ADMIN user!
That is like a unix admin, going to a secure unix box, logging in as root, checking his email with root, then running an unknown program as root, this mind boggles.
Do they people in redmond even know how to use there own dam OS? Maybe they should require all employees to get MSCE or something...
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1) they should keep all beta software on a secure ftp server. No place I know of (that develops software), just email all beta testers the file, at the very most, they email them a link.
"Hey Admin Bob, why the hell is our mail server at 54.6 load and rejecting connections?"
2) the email should of been signed by a developer or beta manager at microsoft.
"Hrmm this email isn't sign and is coming from russia and they emailed me the file instead of the link"
No software development team (company or not), that I have very seen, uses a better method of distrubation files than email attachments. Second %80 of the software development teams I have seen all signed messages, so you know how is really sending it.
Actucally call to tech support (from memory, not exact).
Tech: tech support, can i get your username and city
Me: username, city, state
Tech: What problems are you having?
Me: I can't dial into your service, it is[interpurted]
Tech: Are you on a PC or Mac?
Me: PC, OpenBSD
Tech: Open whatca?
Me: The firewall is running OpenBSD on x86 hardware
Tech: Sorry we don't support firewalls, unless you have a corp account, want me to transfer you to a sales rep
Me: No, the firewall is on this end, never mind the problem I am having is that[interputed]
Tech: What OS are you running again?
Me: Open.. Never mind, I am running Windows
Tech: I though you wheren't on a PC
Me: Never mind, forget I said anything, I am running Windows 98 on a Dell computer
Tech: What type of Dell computer
Me: That isn't the problem, listen[interputed]
Tech: Sir please do not raise your voice, if you continue like 'this' I will have to hang up
Me: The problem is that when I dial in, it the operator says the number is out of service
Tech: What number are you dialing?
Me: xxx-xxx-xxxx
Tech: You realize that you don't have to put in the area code if you are dialing a local number, what is your area code?
Me: Yes I know that.
Tech: Ok, lets just check it, double click on My computer than dial up networking.
Me: I am dialing with a hand held phone
Tech: You can't get the internet with a normal phone, you need a modem installed in your computer
Me: Did they forward my call to the BTFH?
Tech: excuse me?
Me: Never mind, can YOU dial the number, if there is a modem there, you will get all this static for the modem.
Tech: *SIGH*, hold up, let me dial directly into that modem pool and get a connection from here
waiting for 15 minutes on hold....
Tech: Sir, yes it appears that number is down, we have contacted the local telco and are working to get this reslove in a timely manner
Me: Do you have an estimated time?
Tech: estimated time for what?
Me: Do you have an estimated time of when the problem with be resolved?
Tech: Do you have a phone line plugged into your modem?
Me: ?? What does it matter, you just said it was on the telco's end not mine.
Tech: To get the internet you must have a phone line running to the back of your computer, it should be plug in to what is called the [speaking slowly] mo-dem
Me: What? Are you on drugs?
Tech: Sir, I do not engage in that type of activity. Could you please hold.
... waiting on hold for 5 minutes...
Lady: Hi this is xxxxx from xxxxx internet sales department, I heard you where intersted in a corp account?
Me: No
Lady: how can I help you sir?
Me: Can you forward me to tech support?
Lady: Sorry sir, I can't do that, these lines don't transfer, you will have to call xxx-xxxx
Me: Um, if they can transfer me in here, why can't you transfer me back to them? And why didn't you give me the 1-800 number
Lady: [nervous] I don't know Sir, you will have to discuss that with tech support, I just do sales.
Me: Um yea, bye
Lady: Have a nice day and thank you for calling xxxx internet.
I never called back, I canceled the next day.
I also worked on tech support desk, so I know how it is on both ends.
One of my co-workers talked to this guy for 45 minutes trying to get a "invalid password" error in DUN. My co-worker ask him 5+ times "Is you caps lock key on". The customer got really pissed after being on the phone for 45 minutes and asked to talk to a differant tech support. My co-worker gave me the call.
I telneted to 110 on the server and used the username/password he gave me, and it accepted it (pop3 user/pass same as radius user/pass). After that, I setup a connection on the tech machine there and got a connection with that user/password.
After about 5-10 minutes for talking to a very pissed customers (I asked him about 5 times at this point "is your caps lock on? all lower case?") I had him delete and recreate the connection, delete the *.pwl files, reboot his computer and some other stuff.
After 20 minutes, the customer was REALLY pissed off, so I had to get sly in my questions:
Me: Sir, please claim down, we need your help in troubleshooting this problem
Him: I AM FUCKING CLAIM, FIX YOUR DAM SERVICE
Me: Sir, some keyboard are incompatiable with our service, I need you to look at your keyboard in the upper left hand corner
Him: you never said anything about incompatiable keyboards when I signed up, what am I supose to be looking at. I paid over $3000 for this dam computer, the keyboard is working fine.
Me: In the upper right had corner, there will be 3 leds
Him: LEADS [should be leds] WHAT IS THIS TECHNO JARGON, speak english
Me: 3 little lights
Him: Yea, what about them?
Me: Which ones are lite up?
Him: Numb [should be number] Lock, Caps Lock the other is blank
Me: Yea, see Sir that keyboard is incompatiable with our service, don't worry though there is a easy fix
Him: What is that
Me: Call up the computer you purcahsed the keyboard from, or computer if the keyboard came with the computer and ask them to get your the "Caps-lock hotfix service patch 1"
Him: What slow down, let me get a pen
a couple seconds later
Him: What do I need to ask them again?
Me: Ask them for the "Caps Locks hotfix patch" tell him your want the manual instructions for disabling the caps lock led on your keyboard
Him: Caps lock hotfit patches, for the um manually instructed for diabling caps lock leads on my key pads ?
I would see java as having to much over head, even C++. You would think something this small would have to be in ASM for whatever small little proc the fuby has in it.
You could also "rip" the guts out of the fuby, and try and cram a handyboard in there (real easy to program, Interactive C) and paste the fur back on to it (maybe have a steroform "shell" so that it takes on the right shape).
I don't know the size of a fuby, but why not take a board/cpu that is readily avaiable (with documenation) and try and replace whatever board/cpu in there if you can't get proper docs on it.
I think Java is just the authors own prefences and don't see any techinal reason for doing it (I am not a real programmer by the way). If I was putting up my $250 for the project, I would request that perl be runnable on it;)
use Toys::Fuby();
my $germlin = Toys::Fuby->new();
You know if this thing is hacked, you know how easy it would be to build a TUX costume for it!!! Holy crap! that would be so cool, seriously. I am thinking about this now:)
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The RED Book revisted! Seriously, if you want to become a Unix admin, there are 4 books you must study.
1. The Red Book (this book second edition, I guess now it is the purple book)
2. The Blue Book (O'Rielly's Unix System Admin book)
3. The Small Book (The Unix Philosophy by Mike Gancarz published by Digital Press)
4. The Drill Book (O'Rielly's Unix Power Tools, picture of drill on front).
I think if someone can study and know everything in those books by memory, they will have a good start at unix admin-ing. Also need a good book on your unix of choice, the man pages, and more than anything using the system.
The point being, this book is famous, it is a really good book and is required reading for anyone wanting to get into unix admin-ing.
I can't believe they changed the color! The 2 admin books where the red and blue books. Now it will be the purple and blue books, that isn't as catchy.
There is also a DOD red book on security and IBM produces a lot of "red books", so it gets confusing, but most admin know what you are talking about.
I paid I think $90 for this book at borders. It was worth it.
damit man, your link sucks, there is like 5 dam pop up windows. At least link to a respectable porn site!
"Dam this soft taco is crunchy!"
I would like to see IBM throw it's developing power behind a "IBM Linux Distro".
IBM is one of the few HUGE software companies I really like, I don't know why, maybe it is their commericals brain washing me?
I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard IBM "makes" more software than any other company on earth.
I heard it from some guy teaching a CS 101 class, I don't know if the info is true or not, but it makes you think.
I would really like to see an IBM "server" distro and an SGI "client" distro (Think E pimped by SGI!!!)
WTF? God dam grammer whore.
"read a book once in a while, then post. "
*AHEM*
It is "Read a book...". If your posts aren't prefect, why do you flame me on mine? Fuck you.
This box sounds really sweet and all, I think the fact they are going to have a more widely acessiable api and development envoirment is going to be a good thing. Also in terms of horsepower, this kicks the crap out of my PC at home, my workstation at work!
The thing I am wondering though, is sure this is a whole alot-a juice in a little box, but what price tag are they think about here?
Why couldn't a school just "build" there own internet accessiable "free drive"? I don't think it would be really to hard to do, and work work on any internet connected device with a decent web browser (Unix, Mac, Windows, BEos, etc).
Have a thoughly thought out and well place backup plan for all user data.
Cost should be that much of a cost. The server could be had pretty cheap, hard drives are really cheap ((60gigs IDE ~ $400) == really cheap raid). and most bigger schools already have enough bandwidth to prograte a gig of metallica sounds to napster a day.
The only problem that would arise, would be not all students have access to an internet connected computer.
For example, most of the data would be flowing from-to computer labs, campus libaries, dorm rooms, most of this are connected. But what happens when the student goes home from break and needs to work on their term paper from their parents house on a non-connected device?
This could address 90% of the problem. For the people that it doesn't address give them a "So you want to use a floppy?" manual, clean the drivers, make them clean their drives on the other end, use high quality floppies (and many of them) and store them in differant fashions.
You can also put them in the freezer (both floppy and hard drive) for 1-10 minutes to help restore data.
But it will KILL it. About half way though (or just seconds after) the data is dumped, the media goes south
Don't try this
For a reference to this, check "Upgrading and Repair PC 8th edition" by Scott (Steve??) Mullear. (Mullar??). It is a big fat book around 1000-2000 pages.
Just Say NO to Microsoft source!
Than entire article reminded me of a anti-drug/dare progranda. It will infect your mind!
err and um xterm should run `echo "Access Denied"` also, or you will just get a blank xterm
or you could do a `kview $directory/access_denied.jpeg`;
Don't flame me because the syntax, if you really want to do this, clean it up. It has been awhile and I am fscking tried.
#!/usr/bin/perl
$user = "me";
# I know this is the wrong sytnax for xterm
# but there is an option to change the font size
# Just do that, and set the window size and
# maybe color, check the man page for correct
# Syntax
$xterm = "/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm --font=REALLY_BIG_FONT --font-size=14";
# This takes parameters, I forget though
# just get a random whole number between 1-59
while ($random = int (rand()))
{
$pid = `ps aux | grep $user | grep xterm | wc -l`;
# 2 isn't the correct parameter, look at thedoc
# just pull the minutes out of local time
$minute = localtime(2);
if ( ($minute == $random) && ($pid >= 5) )
{ system ("$xterm"); }
sleep (55);
}
exit;
The syntax is messed up, but you get the idea
Actucally this might be fun to install on users work stations.
You idiot, ever here of VPN? of coarse the have an isolated Intranet
They DON'T have an isolated network, proof of this? Someone just stole (or had the possiablity to steal) their source code from their "isolated" network. How can it be "isolated" if someone from russia accessed it via the Internet? If the network is accessiable from outside their network, it isn't isolated you dumb fuck.
but they have to offer users remote access.
They don't have to do shit. If they do decide to offer users remote access, they should of considered the security considers and minimized them greatly.
Unplug the t1, you are so clueless,
It was a general statement. Like pull the plug on the computer, I realize there is more than one plug connected to a computer. I don't have a network diagram for their network, nor do I care, there is something connecting the developers to the rest of the world, whatever it is, pull it.
try multiple OC48's dipshit. And try monitoring 30,000 users internationaliy over a coperate network that puts most ISP's to shame.
Deny by default. At the firewall level, only accept from trusted hosts, kill and log everything else that even attempts to go though.
Site down write a perl script to parse the logs, create a graph in GD so you know where all your bandwidth is going.
If data is being transmitted/received to/from a unfamlair host (I think a Russian IP would stand out a little!!), look into it and find out what they doing.
It was a fuck up on the admin's part and you know it. It doesn't matter how many fucking lines they got coming in/out of there, it doesn't matter how many users they have or how complex it is, the concepts are the same.
It is the network admin's part in this, to maintain a secure network, no matter how complex it is, that is his job, that is what he gets paid for. If he can't do it, he should try getting a job a McDonalds.
It is the system admin's part in this, to maintain secure servers or any machine he is responiable for.
A big corp like Microsoft probably even spends a good deal of money on hiring security officers to make "extra" sure this type of stuff doesn't happen.
Someone didn't do their job. Plan and simple. Don't bitch about details.
Posting as AC, nice touch!
The butler did it.
I think you are correct, he used a small PDA to transfer and upload a trojan to a developers workstation, when the Sr. Developer was busy with he accidently got hot coffee poured on his cotch.
You'll never see an article about RedHat like this... "Yeah, they broke in and stole the source to our prize gem OS..."
AHEM the source code of Linux HAS already been stole, along with the full source of OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Minix and a couple others. Alot of warez sites like ftp.cdrom.com and ftp.tux.org have the code avaiable for download. The source code speard like wild fire and we don't have enough law enforcement to track down these hackers/warez. cheapbytes.com even sells CD-R of the source code for under $5 a peice.
Please know what you are talking about before posting this disinformation to slashdot.
mine had a 386 in it, I know for sure, cause i was trying to get Linux on it (before the support Micro Channel), and it did boot somewhat, but keep giving a kernel panic.
i bet it was a secretary
Why isn't the programmers development network complete seprate from the secretary's? Would the secretary be considered in the same "security class" as the lead developers of Windows ME?
I am going to change the code on all the development boxes so a logical AND will be a local OR, that should mess with the programers head.
So do this mean we will start seeing t-shirts with MS source code on it, like DESCSS (whatever it is) code?
That would be cool.
I want a full body suit printed up with Windows ME code.
Uh um, I take that back, some Linux zealot might hit me with their car..
I am a Linux zealot FTR. I don't hit people with my car (on purpose) any more.
Um RMS isn't dead.
Uh um and if he was alive, why would he be rolling around in his grave laughing his ass off?
RMS is alive, I don't think he owns a grave. If he did, I don't see why he would roll around in it laughing.
Maybe the admin was logged in with as ADMINASTOR while checking his email?
If the admin was logged in as user "bob", your right a rampaging binary should of not cause that much damage.
The point is this.
1) Microsoft has complete unrestricted access to there own source
2) Microsoft is a billion dollar company and ALOT (atleast in their eyes) is at stake
3) They have enough money to higher decent security officers
4) These well-paid security officers should of secured the system and network
5) With people hired for the sole purpose of securing the network, the network should be somewhat more secure, no matter what OS they are running.
6) Why are there developemnt/ source code computer even avaiable on the Internet? Anyone every hear of firewall or internal network? Anyone think about just upluging the T1 from the internal network? Anyone think about requiring the security admins to read "Intro to network security"??
I am sorry to say, but this crack looks "so seventh grade or something"
7) Should Microsoft employees know how to use what software they are required to for there job (ie. outlook). Shouldn't of Microsoft employees be educated about basic security?
8) Where is any monitoring? "Hey Network Admin Bob, some ip in russian has been downloading megs of stuff from one of our internal machines? Is that normal?"
Microsoft views the security of there source code as "high value", the see the closedness of their source as their cash cow, yet they let someone 0wnZ them so easy.
I am not saying NT or W2k is more secure than Unix, etc, that is a broad and misleading statement. I am not saying Unix is more secure than NT, that is also to broad and misleading.
What I am saying is that any decent OS (this includes NT, W2K) should of not even had the chance to be owned like this. If there network was setup right, you could have had the most insecure OS running with default uid/pass for admin access and should not be spolitable like this (atleast from the internet).
It boggles the mind.
It not even like a 31337 crack, it is "hey I downloaded all this programs off the internet, you want to 0wnZ M$?"
The problem isn't with what OS it is running, the problem is that 1) the network admins no nothing about security 2) the system admins no nothing about security 3) the users no nothing about secuirty.
Even if they where running a "Ultra Secure" *cough*OpenBSD*cough* OS, if they hook their "important machines with highly classified information" up the the internet, they are just ASKING for trouble...
And someone please explain to me why the SYSTEM ADMIN was checking his email with the ADMIN account on a SECURE MACHINE. Then running an unknown program as ADMIN user!
That is like a unix admin, going to a secure unix box, logging in as root, checking his email with root, then running an unknown program as root, this mind boggles.
Do they people in redmond even know how to use there own dam OS? Maybe they should require all employees to get MSCE or something...
1) they should keep all beta software on a secure ftp server. No place I know of (that develops software), just email all beta testers the file, at the very most, they email them a link.
"Hey Admin Bob, why the hell is our mail server at 54.6 load and rejecting connections?"
2) the email should of been signed by a developer or beta manager at microsoft.
"Hrmm this email isn't sign and is coming from russia and they emailed me the file instead of the link"
No software development team (company or not), that I have very seen, uses a better method of distrubation files than email attachments. Second %80 of the software development teams I have seen all signed messages, so you know how is really sending it.
Actucally call to tech support (from memory, not exact).
Tech: tech support, can i get your username and city
Me: username, city, state
Tech: What problems are you having?
Me: I can't dial into your service, it is[interpurted]
Tech: Are you on a PC or Mac?
Me: PC, OpenBSD
Tech: Open whatca?
Me: The firewall is running OpenBSD on x86 hardware
Tech: Sorry we don't support firewalls, unless you have a corp account, want me to transfer you to a sales rep
Me: No, the firewall is on this end, never mind the problem I am having is that[interputed]
Tech: What OS are you running again?
Me: Open.. Never mind, I am running Windows
Tech: I though you wheren't on a PC
Me: Never mind, forget I said anything, I am running Windows 98 on a Dell computer
Tech: What type of Dell computer
Me: That isn't the problem, listen[interputed]
Tech: Sir please do not raise your voice, if you continue like 'this' I will have to hang up
Me: The problem is that when I dial in, it the operator says the number is out of service
Tech: What number are you dialing?
Me: xxx-xxx-xxxx
Tech: You realize that you don't have to put in the area code if you are dialing a local number, what is your area code?
Me: Yes I know that.
Tech: Ok, lets just check it, double click on My computer than dial up networking.
Me: I am dialing with a hand held phone
Tech: You can't get the internet with a normal phone, you need a modem installed in your computer
Me: Did they forward my call to the BTFH?
Tech: excuse me?
Me: Never mind, can YOU dial the number, if there is a modem there, you will get all this static for the modem.
Tech: *SIGH*, hold up, let me dial directly into that modem pool and get a connection from here
waiting for 15 minutes on hold
Tech: Sir, yes it appears that number is down, we have contacted the local telco and are working to get this reslove in a timely manner
Me: Do you have an estimated time?
Tech: estimated time for what?
Me: Do you have an estimated time of when the problem with be resolved?
Tech: Do you have a phone line plugged into your modem?
Me: ?? What does it matter, you just said it was on the telco's end not mine.
Tech: To get the internet you must have a phone line running to the back of your computer, it should be plug in to what is called the [speaking slowly] mo-dem
Me: What? Are you on drugs?
Tech: Sir, I do not engage in that type of activity. Could you please hold.
... waiting on hold for 5 minutes
Lady: Hi this is xxxxx from xxxxx internet sales department, I heard you where intersted in a corp account?
Me: No
Lady: how can I help you sir?
Me: Can you forward me to tech support?
Lady: Sorry sir, I can't do that, these lines don't transfer, you will have to call xxx-xxxx
Me: Um, if they can transfer me in here, why can't you transfer me back to them? And why didn't you give me the 1-800 number
Lady: [nervous] I don't know Sir, you will have to discuss that with tech support, I just do sales.
Me: Um yea, bye
Lady: Have a nice day and thank you for calling xxxx internet.
I never called back, I canceled the next day.
I also worked on tech support desk, so I know how it is on both ends.
One of my co-workers talked to this guy for 45 minutes trying to get a "invalid password" error in DUN. My co-worker ask him 5+ times "Is you caps lock key on". The customer got really pissed after being on the phone for 45 minutes and asked to talk to a differant tech support. My co-worker gave me the call.
I telneted to 110 on the server and used the username/password he gave me, and it accepted it (pop3 user/pass same as radius user/pass). After that, I setup a connection on the tech machine there and got a connection with that user/password.
After about 5-10 minutes for talking to a very pissed customers (I asked him about 5 times at this point "is your caps lock on? all lower case?") I had him delete and recreate the connection, delete the *.pwl files, reboot his computer and some other stuff.
After 20 minutes, the customer was REALLY pissed off, so I had to get sly in my questions:
Me: Sir, please claim down, we need your help in troubleshooting this problem
Him: I AM FUCKING CLAIM, FIX YOUR DAM SERVICE
Me: Sir, some keyboard are incompatiable with our service, I need you to look at your keyboard in the upper left hand corner
Him: you never said anything about incompatiable keyboards when I signed up, what am I supose to be looking at. I paid over $3000 for this dam computer, the keyboard is working fine.
Me: In the upper right had corner, there will be 3 leds
Him: LEADS [should be leds] WHAT IS THIS TECHNO JARGON, speak english
Me: 3 little lights
Him: Yea, what about them?
Me: Which ones are lite up?
Him: Numb [should be number] Lock, Caps Lock the other is blank
Me: Yea, see Sir that keyboard is incompatiable with our service, don't worry though there is a easy fix
Him: What is that
Me: Call up the computer you purcahsed the keyboard from, or computer if the keyboard came with the computer and ask them to get your the "Caps-lock hotfix service patch 1"
Him: What slow down, let me get a pen
a couple seconds later
Him: What do I need to ask them again?
Me: Ask them for the "Caps Locks hotfix patch" tell him your want the manual instructions for disabling the caps lock led on your keyboard
Him: Caps lock hotfit patches, for the um manually instructed for diabling caps lock leads on my key pads ?
Me: Yea, ask them for that
Him: ok, bye
[click]
The United States has over %600 more murders per year, than that England. England abolished the death penality in 1973.
These maybe un-related stats.
Having a death penality doesn't STOP someone from murder, it only stops them from committing murder more than once.
The question is, then; why are they communitting murder in the first place?
I would see java as having to much over head, even C++. You would think something this small would have to be in ASM for whatever small little proc the fuby has in it.
;)
:)
You could also "rip" the guts out of the fuby, and try and cram a handyboard in there (real easy to program, Interactive C) and paste the fur back on to it (maybe have a steroform "shell" so that it takes on the right shape).
I don't know the size of a fuby, but why not take a board/cpu that is readily avaiable (with documenation) and try and replace whatever board/cpu in there if you can't get proper docs on it.
I think Java is just the authors own prefences and don't see any techinal reason for doing it (I am not a real programmer by the way). If I was putting up my $250 for the project, I would request that perl be runnable on it
use Toys::Fuby();
my $germlin = Toys::Fuby->new();
$germlin->eyes("wink");
$germlin->say("/home/bud/sounds/lickme.wav");
$germlin->mock("all");
$germlin->punch("Microsoft's Barney");
$germlin->stab("Microsoft's Barney");
$germlin->mock("all");
HOLY CRAP!
You know if this thing is hacked, you know how easy it would be to build a TUX costume for it!!! Holy crap! that would be so cool, seriously. I am thinking about this now