That's one thing I never understood the argument for. Personally, I just put it in/opt/qmail ( I usually put standalone binaries under/usr/local, and 'packages', like Oracle, Interbase, OpenOffice into/opt)
If the bug was in Linux, shouldn't the patch be done to Linux? And why should Bernstein take responsibility for bugs in other people's code?
Besides, Bernstein does fix his software when vulnerabilities in some platforms are discovered. He did it with his daemontools package (his replacement for inetd).
You're suggestion is fine, once you have it loaded, but this was during the installation, before the actual installation had taken place (I think after you have partitioned your disk). I know you can drop out to a shell, but the point, I think, is that you shouldn't have to.
I never really had problems with Windows installation, so I can't really say anything about that. I do know that when I used RedHat, most stuff (like the network card) was autodiscovered. And as long as you have an option to confirm it, I don't see a problem with that.
I don't think the problem is walking through the installation. I had a friend, who have never installed Linux before, install Debian two weeks ago. He had no problems following the onscreen instructions (just click next, basically).
The problem is, as many people has mentioned before, the automatic (non-existing one at that) hardware detection. We weren't sure about what kind of network card he had (as in which chipset to use), and we were doing a network installation (just boot up from disks), so that was a huge problem. Finally, we just tried all the drivers, one by one, until the right one didn't fail on load.
In what other countries that are supposedly better than us are the press free to walk out into public with a Swastika armband, yell "HEIL HITLER" at the top of your lungs, and give the Roman salute?
Norway, among others.
Going to a more serious matter, which of those European countries would allow a true report on the pernicious effects of uncontrolled illegal immigration?
And *nix systems are infinitely more scriptable, so I think it's more likely those were used for the attack (if I remember correctly, unsecured Linux where used for the big DDOS attacks on Yahoo and Ebay etc some years ago).
This was never reveled to the public, as far as everyone was aware, the US got the USSR to back down completely.
I always thought this 'fact' was interesting, because it seemed such a surprise here (in the US)... I was being taught about this back in gradeschool in the '80s in Norway... Then again, lots of Americans don't seem to know about Dresden.
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Who are you to tell me what the web is for? And I'm not distributing files... I'm having a picture gallery of my hometown.
That might be true in the US, but not in Europe. Besides, the phone with this kind of functionality won't show up in the US for the forseeable future anyway.
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I don't think putting my photoalbum online would be as effective if everybody had been using Lynx or Links.
Well, you might be biased to, reading the reports. Could it be that any articles that might be favorable to Microsoft, or unfavorable to Linux is automatically considered biased by you? When you want unbiased opinions, are you then looking for opinions that you agree with?
I think the problem with commercial Debian derived distributions is that there are no 'guaranteed' future income. Debian makes it so damn easy to upgrade.
When I used RedHat, I always bought a CD for each upgrade (from 5.0 to 5.1, to 5.2, to 6.0 etc). The reason: upgrading meant manually download individual packages and installing them in the right order. When I recently upgraded from Debian 2.2 to 3.0, all I had to do was change the sources.list, do apt-get update, and apt-get dist-ugprade. All dependencies and installation order was taken care of.
With RedHat (and I suspect other RPM based distributions), they were 'guaranteed' money from me, since I wanted to upgrade. With Debian based distribution, I no longer feel the need to buy a CD to keep current (even on dialup).
You do know you don't have to use it, right? Just don't install this utility. Or are you going to complain about people installing Xemacs next, because you only use and need vi?
OK, sorry. Having a bad morning. And I thought you were one of those 'blame MS for everything' (like, oh, your place burned down? Probably MS) that seems to roam around this place all the time.
Microsoft is a monopoly. The courts have ruled it to be one, not me.
Read my previous message again. I never said I didn't think Microoft isn't a monoopoly. I was asking whether you thought Microsoft is the only software company out there. Or if Microsoft is not the only company, then you must believe that ALL software companies are monopolies. Both are blatantly false (ever heard of HP? Oracle? LucasArts? IdSoftware?) So, which one is it?
Why should NYT take a proactive stance on Linux? Just because one of the editors recommends Palm PDAs doesn;t mean that the company should help out Palm financially.
Linux companies should stand and fall on their own.
Besides, I thought VA didn't have anything to do with Linux anymore.
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(even though I put it in /usr/local/qmail. nyeh!).
/opt/qmail ( I usually put standalone binaries under /usr/local, and 'packages', like Oracle, Interbase, OpenOffice into /opt)
That's one thing I never understood the argument for. Personally, I just put it in
If the bug was in Linux, shouldn't the patch be done to Linux? And why should Bernstein take responsibility for bugs in other people's code?
Besides, Bernstein does fix his software when vulnerabilities in some platforms are discovered. He did it with his daemontools package (his replacement for inetd).
Er batman also has a (utility) belt, and he also wears his pants outside his trousers.
Nope, not anymore. He changed his costume after the KnightFall storyline.
You're suggestion is fine, once you have it loaded, but this was during the installation, before the actual installation had taken place (I think after you have partitioned your disk). I know you can drop out to a shell, but the point, I think, is that you shouldn't have to.
I never really had problems with Windows installation, so I can't really say anything about that. I do know that when I used RedHat, most stuff (like the network card) was autodiscovered. And as long as you have an option to confirm it, I don't see a problem with that.
If you have a Tivo, turn on the statistics collection, and hope Tivo people publish the data.
And this is proof that Firefly will be cancelled. Most shows that are critically acclaimed seem to get cancelled (The Tick, Profit...)
I don't think the problem is walking through the installation. I had a friend, who have never installed Linux before, install Debian two weeks ago. He had no problems following the onscreen instructions (just click next, basically).
The problem is, as many people has mentioned before, the automatic (non-existing one at that) hardware detection. We weren't sure about what kind of network card he had (as in which chipset to use), and we were doing a network installation (just boot up from disks), so that was a huge problem. Finally, we just tried all the drivers, one by one, until the right one didn't fail on load.
Everything else was pretty easy.
In what other countries that are supposedly better than us are the press free to walk out into public with a Swastika armband, yell "HEIL HITLER" at the top of your lungs, and give the Roman salute?
Norway, among others.
Going to a more serious matter, which of those European countries would allow a true report on the pernicious effects of uncontrolled illegal
immigration?
Norway, among others.
I doubt the root servers run on Windows.
And *nix systems are infinitely more scriptable, so I think it's more likely those were used for the attack (if I remember correctly, unsecured Linux where used for the big DDOS attacks on Yahoo and Ebay etc some years ago).
This was never reveled to the public, as far as everyone was aware, the US got the USSR to back down completely.
I always thought this 'fact' was interesting, because it seemed such a surprise here (in the US)... I was being taught about this back in gradeschool in the '80s in Norway... Then again, lots of Americans don't seem to know about Dresden.
Who are you to tell me what the web is for? And I'm not distributing files... I'm having a picture gallery of my hometown.
That might be true in the US, but not in Europe. Besides, the phone with this kind of functionality won't show up in the US for the forseeable future anyway.
I don't think putting my photoalbum online would be as effective if everybody had been using Lynx or Links.
He doesn't give a flying fuck about open source, he only wants to sell his product.
If he wants to stay in business,he better want to sell his product.
What if you don't have an afternoon to kill, and you just want something to work so that you can get your work done, and go home to your family?
Well, you might be biased to, reading the reports. Could it be that any articles that might be favorable to Microsoft, or unfavorable to Linux is automatically considered biased by you? When you want unbiased opinions, are you then looking for opinions that you agree with?
I think the problem with commercial Debian derived distributions is that there are no 'guaranteed' future income. Debian makes it so damn easy to upgrade.
When I used RedHat, I always bought a CD for each upgrade (from 5.0 to 5.1, to 5.2, to 6.0 etc). The reason: upgrading meant manually download individual packages and installing them in the right order. When I recently upgraded from Debian 2.2 to 3.0, all I had to do was change the sources.list, do apt-get update, and apt-get dist-ugprade. All dependencies and installation order was taken care of.
With RedHat (and I suspect other RPM based distributions), they were 'guaranteed' money from me, since I wanted to upgrade. With Debian based distribution, I no longer feel the need to buy a CD to keep current (even on dialup).
You do know you don't have to use it, right? Just don't install this utility. Or are you going to complain about people installing Xemacs next, because you only use and need vi?
I thought the term *BSD referred to all BSD systems (Free-,Open-,Net- etc).
OK, sorry. Having a bad morning. And I thought you were one of those 'blame MS for everything' (like, oh, your place burned down? Probably MS) that seems to roam around this place all the time.
Microsoft is a monopoly. The courts have ruled it to be one, not me.
Read my previous message again. I never said I didn't think Microoft isn't a monoopoly. I was asking whether you thought Microsoft is the only software company out there. Or if Microsoft is not the only company, then you must believe that ALL software companies are monopolies. Both are blatantly false (ever heard of HP? Oracle? LucasArts? IdSoftware?) So, which one is it?
Remove competition, prices rise. Duh...
Are you trying to say that Microsoft is the only software company out there, or that all software companies are monopolies?
Software being licensed under GPL doesn't make it GNU. Read the GPL.
Not all Apache servers run on Linux. Not all Linux systems run Apache. Not all Linux/w Apache has mod_ssl.
Why should NYT take a proactive stance on Linux? Just because one of the editors recommends Palm PDAs doesn;t mean that the company should help out Palm financially.
Linux companies should stand and fall on their own.
Besides, I thought VA didn't have anything to do with Linux anymore.