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Dan Gillmor is about as high on the IT journalist and industry pundit "respect" totem pole as you can get. Slashdot has linked to hundreds of his articles. What do you ask this veteran observer of the Silicon Valley scene? Whatever you like, one question per post. We'll email 10 of the highest-moderated questions to Dan 24 - 36 hours after this post goes up, and run his answers shortly after he gets them back to us.
What operating system do you think (most) desktop users will be using 10 years down the road, and why? Will it be *nix, or Microsoft, or something else?
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
Did you know that Slashdot [slashdot.org] has linked to hundreds of your articles?
Why do you think so much bullshit is going on in the IT industry? Much more than in any other industry anyway.
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Vi or Emacs?
Do you foresee Silicon Valley as the continuing center of tech jobs, or has its reign of the markets long since been gone and will never return?
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We all know that the old-style model of the internet is broken, websites are unable to rely on banner ads and (ick) pop-ups anymore pay the bills. My question to you then is this, how do you believe the future of the web will be, will it be that every website will just have a donation box, or will they all make you pay a subscription fee like is now happening with some of the bigger websites? Or do you see a third answer, sponsorship, whether corporate or by a bigger website that can already pay the bills?
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which of the "big " players in silicon valley, hp sun etc do yo think will stil be here in say 20 years? and why? it seems that companies pop in and out of existance almost on a daily basis in the technology world
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Errmmm, I followed the link, and saw (counts quickly) 33... Including this one.
Hmm, hundreds in what numbering system exactly?
(And yes, I know, its not a question - what you gonna do, mod me down? - See, thats a question!)
leave it to a horror writer to die once a week.
What's your best guess on how Judge Kollar-Kotelly will rule? The Judge Jackson's ruling came as an utter and complete surprise to almost everyone who hadn't followed *web* reports on the trial. The mass media did a very bad job protraying the issues of the original trial, basically parroting MSFT and Wag-Edd's "freedom to innovate" press releases, rather than reporting on the fairly straightforward restraint of trade case that the DoJ made. This time around, the web reporters seemed a bit confused by how the case went as well.
Quit playing Monopoly with Bill. Switch to one of many non-Microsoft products today.
Is he a hack or a fraud?
How do you see the current weak economy affecting the IT industry today? Is the lack of corporate spending hurting the number of jobs, increasing the workload of IT professionals, or reducing the amount of technology brought into the modern workplace? Or is it merely affecting where companies choose to spend their dollars? (such as Linux instead of Solaris or Windows, open source instead of closed source, new faster hardware or older, not-as-fast but adequate hardware)
For a lot of us, the biggest issue on our personal agenda is employment: the chances of being laid off, and (worse) how long it will take to find a decent replacement job. (Underemployment is an issue, too; staying in the tech sector but taking more than a 25% pay cut, or leaving the tech sector in order to pay the rent/mortgage.)
It's not just relative to the dotcom bubble. There are few jobs, and those that are out there process applicants via companies that specialize in resume processing. (The latter means it's all about keywords, not how good you are.) The most reliable way to get a job continues to be working your personal network; but many networks have dissolved, as everyone gets laid off in a short period of time.
What's your take? From where you sit, have you seen any bright spots, or any indications things might get better (or worse)? What coping strategies have you seen people find for sucessfully getting new jobs, or surviving unemployment well?
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Found on BBC:
"Upon hearing of the death of his favourite operating system, BSD, Stephen King sat down to pen his final work. Sadly this work was to be his suicide note, in HTML, containing a link to the netcraft survey that brought him this sad news. He phoned up Goatse to say a final good bye, and pulled the trigger, just as Goatse had done years ago, but instead of pointing up his arse, it was pointing at his head."
Sad news indeed.
High on the respect totem.
Until Microsoft really screws up and gets ripped apart by the government?
-S
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My question is about the Microsoft .NET product. It's rather a simple question, but one that nobody seems to be able to answer:
.NET??? Will it dramatically change the world? What do you think the results of .NET are going to be?
What the heck is
It's getting easier and cheaper to outsource programming jobs to India, Russia and Singapore (among other nations). How much longer can programmers count on a healthy, US based industry?
do you think the IT industry is a viable career choice ? its getting more like manufacturing with the number of jobs increasing overseas and decreasing in north america with only customer service/sysadmin positions left behind.
are you planning to stay in the IT industry long term ?
Windows or Linux?
Currently, most of the industry relies on a silicon based technology, using optics to burn silicon wafers. What technology areas do you see the industry looking into, as well as what are areas the industry isn't looking into that it should? Add to this, what technologies are out there that in your opinion aren't looked at heavily enough? As a last part of this, where do you see most of the innovation. Is it in large corporations, such as IBM, or smaller corporations or startup companies?
care to comment on the Indian PDA?
While reading articles about new technology from various mainstream media sources, I get the impression that they have absolutly no idea what they're talking about. It's clear to me that the average mainstream journalist has, at best, a minimal understanding of the techology that he or she is reporting on.
What impact does this have on the public's perception and awareness of new technoloy, and will this lack of understanding dissapear as older journalists are replaced by a younger, more tech-savvy breed?
We all know the economy is going in cycles, but how cyclic is IT, in your experience? When was the last big downturn, what happened back then and what changed because of it?
Right now, most of "us" IT-workers are facing the results of "new economy" bubble and the consecutive downturn of IT.
Here in Germany, I remember that in 1991 when I finished high school, people told me not to go study computer science because back then, the career outlook was bland and many IT academics were unemployed or received low figures. Then came the internet, salaries and everything else exploded, which was nice while it lastet, yet incredibly surreal.
Right now clients are sitting on every single penny , I know highly-skilled IT workers who are nevertheless unemployed because companies stopped hiring and around us and even some of the former key players of the industry are going bust...
So, do you remember a similar economic situation in IT and how did you experience it?
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Many of us here are happy to criticise IT Journalists in general for inaccuracy or biased opinion. You've managed to build a reputation for yourself without attracting much of that bad karma.
What/where/who do you read/research/ask to stay abreast of the many technical aspects you need to report on (to keep technical accuracy) without simply taking various companies words for granted (and thus loosing your unbiased approach)?
Do you think this is a good businessmodel that will survive?
1) Give stuff away for free.
2) ???
3) Profit!
Posted by Roblimo on 12:00 PM October 7th, 2002
from the swamis-of-silicon-valley dept.
Dan Gillmor is about as high on the IT journalist and industry pundit "respect" totem pole as you can get. Slashdot has linked to hundreds of his articles. What do you ask this veteran observer of the Silicon Valley scene? Whatever you like, one question per post. We'll email 10 of the highest-moderated questions to Dan 24 - 36 hours after this post goes up, and run his answers shortly after he gets them back to us.
Have you ever had a conflict of interest; like, what you should write, rather than what would get you promoted or would be better for your career? How do you deal with this?
Dan, you are often referred to as one of the voices of power in IT, freedom on the Internet, etc. But, I have a hard time swallowing that in light of your much-publicised problems with Verio regarding your open SMTP relay. Can you please explain the logic behind your actins to us rabid anti-spammers here on Slashdot? Specifically, why keep an open SMTP relay which can be (and has been) used by spammers to propogate their evil (and sue your ISP for the right to run said SMTP relay) when there are numerous secure methods of SMTP relaying out there? Was this simply a matter of principle, or was there actually some technical reason for not wanting to deploy a secure relaying method?
Ubiquitous personal computers, ubiquitous fax machines, ubiquitous e-mail (I can send e-mail to every member of my family), ubiquitous Internet access (especially the Web), ubiquitous wireless voice service: telecom and computing innovations keep changing the world. Do you see anything that's just a blip on the radar screen today, but which might have a big impact on people's lives in a few years?
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IIRC, back in the day you were pretty seriously activist: I seem to remember you at Usenix handing out buttons and carrying signs.
Do you still consider yourself an activist? If not, what changed? Is there still a place for activism in the geek community? What is it?
Being a German software developer, I don't quite get your question. Software development was never a solely US-based industry.
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I'd really LIKE to believe that Apple is taking a conscious and principled stand against digital restrictions management, as suggested in your article here.
Your article is, however, basically speculative.
Do you have any evidence that Apple really has an anti-DRM corporate strategy? Gateway has issued a limited but significant public statement of support for fair-use rights. Do you have any ideas why Apple has not done anything like this?
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Many people talk about doing something about the "digital divide", where third world and developing countries are fast falling far behind, most with very few computers and little or no internet access, do you forsee this ever changing or will this situation just get worse as time goes on?
The programmers in those countries keep listing classes they took in College/high school on their resumes as actual jobs.
"For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
...as a longtime observer, what has surprised you most about the current technology, in a positive (what did you never expect to happen?) and in a negative (what should never have happened?) way?
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Was having hundreds of your articles Slashdotted a traumatic experience?
Silicon Valley venture capitalists in the late 1990s turned their money and attentions to bear on creating dozens of companies that never had any hope of turning a profit.
From personal experience I've seen just how powerful VCs are in shaping the development of the IT market through their iron-grip control of individual startups.
Have you noticed any fundamental power shifts or changes in the way startup IT companies are being funded and created in the Valley over the past couple of years?
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
Market Stauration has been seen coming since around 2000 or before, combined with the end to the "software gets slower" Corrolary to Moore's law ("Groves Giveth and Gates Taketh away"). For the last couple of years, the IT bubble covered up many of these effects.
Now that the bubble is gone, Mr Bill's Corrolary has (mostly) failed, and the market is obviously saturated, when are Intel/AMD/Microsoft going to admit to this, and what are the general industry plans to deal with this, beyond the obvious software rental model?
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after reporting so much on geek interests you must have interacted with a lot of geeks. do you have any dating tips/suggestions for geeks (male and female)? i mean besides the obvious, "bathe more," and, "larts can also be used for fending off persistant suitors."
Microsoft's approach is to tune the database (SQL Server) to act as a file system, scheduled replace NTFS in 2006. The open source community, however, is taking the opposite approach and aiming to make the file system more database-like.
One of the most promising ideas right now for Linux seems to be coming from Hans Reiser, soon to be implemented in a future version of Reiser FS. Reiser FS will store many attributes about a file in other files, basically expanding the capabilites of the file system into a database.
Which do you see as the more promising approah? What do you think the impact of such hybrid filesystem/databases will be on DBMS such as Oracle, Sybase, and DB2?
I'm always amazed at how industry commentators have re-written history, particularly when it comes to the computer industry.
For example, in Robert X. Cringely's book "Accidental Empires", he tells the story of how the personal computer grew from a hobby toy to one of the most important devices ever made.
But it's a decidedly left-coast "californa-centric" point of view. Very little mention of IBM is ever made, except how they screwed up and gave the golden key to Bill Gates, and computer industry pioneer Commodore doesn't even seem to warrant a paragragh, although at one point in the early 80's CBM held over 33% of the market.
So, my question is: Do you feel that the number of reporters hovering around Silicon Valley have distorted the view of the rise of the industry?
While I also believe that Woz is due saint-hood, I also have tempered that view with the knowledge that both Commodore and Clive Sinclair did more to raise the bar on the Personal Computer than most others, despite the Mac being "insanely great".
When I watch "Pirates of Silicon Valley" I can't help but feel that we're cheating ourselves by allowing the "pundits" to dictate how this industry came to where it is now.
It does appear at times that the those reporting on technology are often just cheerleaders for whatever large software/hardware company pays the advertising bills for the magazine that reporter works for.
How do you feel about these issues?
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
When computers, first became widely available to the public, there were a lot fewer governing laws and regulations. The also applies to the internet in its initial stages.
Nowadays, it seems that one can't do anything with a PC without a bunch of rules, regulations, or disclaimers. While it's understandable that many companies wish to protect their products, and also protect themselves from lawsuits, it seems that today freedom in IT is becoming increasingly narrow.
What do you think the future of the internet is, in a legal and freedoms sense? Will it continue to become a medium for free expression (quite strongly accented by sites such as here, slashdot), or will insane lawsuits and regulations put to much fear into using the freedoms which are so easily stepped on today.
As the world integrates IT more and more into our lives, what will happen with it as a medium of freedom Vs one of restriction. Will we still be able to speak our minds online, or will we live under the chains of lawsuits, speed governers, and surveillance devices.
Technology is a wonderful medium for crossing new boundries, but often it seems to also be used to impose new ones. Which usage for technology do you see being stronger in the future: the wings or the chains, and how would you see each being applied?
Can you offer any insights as to why, even after all these years, forces in the IT and journalism scenes still insist on beating up Apple Computer? The cries of "Apple is dying!" have echoed in my ears for over ten years, and Apple still survives - in fact, Apple is one of the few computer companies to continue to make a profit in the current slowdown. From it's early days as the first true home PC, all the way up to it's current award-winning accomplishments - Firewire, the iPod, the first true consumer-oriented Unix OS - Apple has positioned itself as a leader in the industry. So why is it that the industry is forever running it down, instead of giving it the credit it deserves?
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"7) Why would anyone pay half a million dollars to live here?"
Because Santa Cruz is beautiful and has some of the world's most perfect weather (at least, perfect for my tastes)
In your opinion, what are the most notable events you have witnessed in the computer industry, the good, the bad, and the ugly?
Any sufficiently advanced influence is indistinguishable from control.
We all hear stories of different reports being paid for by corporations such as Microsoft. How are many of the current stories, newspapers, and other printed (electronically printed or otherwise) stories affected by corporate sponsorship, biases, etc.? Which industries, points of view, or otherwise get promoted heavily with regards to importance due to these biases or sponsors? Is this a way to manipulate public viewpoints, in an arena which should be impartial?
What sources are doing this the most? Are there any sources that truly seem impartial in most of their judgements? It all comes back to who do we trust?
With so much money having been tossed around, surely there was a lot of corrupt dealings; however, I haven't seen any press or other talk of such happenings.
Is it primarily because these companies weren't public and thus publicly accountable that any mini-Enron's were simply never discovered?
In some ways, corruption would be a little more comforting of an explanation than sheer stupidity.
I feel like I might be pretty naive in not realizing some of this is going on. What's your take on corrupt dealings, patronage, and such in the industry?
-me
Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
What's your take on the HP/Compaq merger?
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There are a decent number of "US based" software companies in which design work or other is done here, and the programming itself is exported to places such as India where they will work for pennies on the dollar.
Lots of US citizens who are programmers are ticked off about that fact.
As an IT security specialist, poor software quality - both in design and implementation - is my greatest headache (and my surest job security). How aware are consumers and the media of this problem, do you think the critical mass of demand for quality software ever coalesce, and what effect will/would this have on the industry?
I'm a dinosaur: 51yo, IBM mainframe background, lost my technical edge years ago, can't stand being a lying salesman, can't delegate well enough to be a manager, and don't have two dimes to rub together. Is there any hope for me? Thanks, I'll listen to your answer offline.
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open source for all your needs? if not, what products are needed in the open source community to get you to 100% open source?
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Great question, but I would like to add to it.
How long before I.T. unions are as big as other unions. Or do you think that the current unions will join together to form one large union?
Being a conservative in nature it is a shame to see all these votes going to the Democrats...
On a side note, I can't wait for foreign software development to be taxed like imported cars are.
The more I learn about science, the more my faith in God increases.
There has recently been a push in serveral governments, though not so much in the US, to adopt a policy of favoring Open Source solutions above commercial solutions. Do you see these initiatives as some grass-roots desire for glasnost, or a reaction to US technological imperialism?
What if it is just turtles all the way down?
The payoff between technology spending and actual rewards (profits) has been difficult to establish in statistical studies.
In the 90's companies seemed to believe in IT benefits dispite this lack of a solid connection. Has the tide now turned such that companies are going to shun IT projects and revert to more traditional (manual) processes for the borderline functions that are not clear candidates for automation?
In my observation, whenever there are no clear and/or agreed-upon metrics for the usage of a given technique or approach, then its popularity is highly subject to whim, speculation, and fads.
For example, the "market-share over profits" viewpoint was popular in the 80's during the Japan boom. Now it is pretty much dead. Is IT in the same boat now?
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you've seen a lot of things happening in Silicon Valley so far, from the VC-financed dot-com big-blow to the latest enforcement of "security" and "digital rights management" to other less known things.
Now, being an EU citizen, I fear that Europe may slowly want to catch up with the "famous" Silicon Valley in terms of technology, state of mind, rate of growth, and so on. Manager are fascinated by the possibilities of 'making money', young students in Economics are told that Silicon Valley Was A Good Thing No Matter What, et cetera.
What do you think will happen over here? Will Europe take just the good ideas from the Silicon Valley (grass-root movements, improvements in technology just for the sake of it, improvements to the whole mankind) or will we all become subject to EULAs and draconian laws imposed by some multinational company?
What can be done to avoid the dangers that a too-obtuse management class can do? (don't suggest "move to another country" please
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How much longer can programmers count on a healthy, US based industry?
You're still assuming that there IS a "healthy, US based [programming] industry". From where I sit (a former senior developer), it's leaving the US now. It started a few years ago. I saw it, and I got out of the industry altogether. I'm sorry, but I really think that this answer is a no-brainer.
The IT press has been promising us a variety of malarkey for years - Microsoft innovation, Apple going out of business, Linux on the desktop, flying cars, ...
As I see it, to a large extent this is due to an over-reliance of IT journalists on industry contacts and a highly incestuous meme-pool.
Since industry contacts are driven by their own agendas to poison the meme-pool with hype and FUD, reporters typically serve only to reinforce entrenched concerns in the industry.
This is particularly troublesome given that the IT industry of uniquely reliant upon innovation which has traditionally emerged from smaller players & upstarts.
Therefore, does IT journalism really contribute positively to the industry and, if so, how?
Do you feel that patent law is driving innovation as originally envisioned by our founding fathers?
Should we shorten the term of patents in emerging technology fields, such as in software and other relatively new high tech industries?
If you post it, they will read.
Do you forsee an end to the "write once sell many" paradigm of commodity software? Red Hat's stated business goal is to turn a "multibillion dollar software industry into a multimillion dollar one". Are the days of getting rich by resting on one's laurels and selling licenses over?
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I have read that there are licenses for many hardware components as well as software components of a modern network. So, in 10 to 15 years, will there be licenses for hardware, and if so, what do you think the licenses will be like? Will they be more open than they presently are, or will they still remain very restrictive as into the appropriate usage of the hardware?
By devices that use licenses, I mean devices such as routers and other appliances of the like.
Also, what is your opinion on licenses? Do you like licensing, or do you think it should be abolished?
Gone are the days where we can be best at whatever we like and be sure of paying the bills. In light of the job market and future trends, what would you pick as the top 3 to 5 technologies to learn right now, to help insure our paychecks don't shrink or stop coming.
Thanks.
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During the dot-com boom, a big wod of "IT professionals" came out of nowhere to help with web projects.
Many of these people seemed mostly interested in money and prestige, and not true computer-lovers like us real nerds on slashdot
Some now seem to be moving toward the currently hot accounting field.
What percentage of IT workers seem to be like this and what percent are successfully moving out of IT into a more happening field?
Will enough of them disappear from IT to return computer employement to normal?
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Now that the old business model for the Internet (banners, etc) is no longer a reliable source of income for small web sites, and with the possible new billing schemes proposed by many of the major ISPs (billing for actual bit usage, not the speed of the connection), do you feel there is going to be a place on the Internet for smaller companies and individuals, or will the Internet be controlled exclusively by big business within the next 5 years?
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Do you think it is possible (or even necessary) to move IT services such as application development or network design and implementation away from the 'artisan' model to a more commoditized, 'assembly line' model? What differences exist between the current IT industry, and other once upon a time high-tech industries that went through the same process (e.g. the automotive industry)? What can we take from that type of comparison, and what must we realize is different? If we are moving in that direction, how do you rate the current state of standard practices, and what methods might still need to be improved or changed? Cheers!
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Exactly the same here in Germany. I've seen Siemens-Nixdorf source codes written by Indian developers in India, at an Indian daughter-company of Siemens.
Also, there are German companies outsourcing software development to the US and US companies hiring German companies to do the work for them. (We do, albeit for a very very small application and probably mostly because that American businessman is a German US-immigrant who knows us personally, but hey.)
Then, there are US companies manufacturing computers using Asian electronic parts, hiring Taiwanese engineers in Taiwan to do the electronic design.
The Microsoft keyboard I am typing on was made in Thailand, the Microsoft mouse I am using was made in China, the computer by "Apple, California" on the desk next to me was actually manufactured in the Czech republic and designed by a company based in Germany.
There are Japanese, French and German car makers who have car plants in the US, employing US workers to manufacture cars with a Japanese, French or German brand name.
There's a Coca-Cola bottling plant right next to where I live, run by a German family business for more than 40 years. They use German water, German sugar (and I presume most of the other ingredients are German too) to make a product sold under an American brand name, using advertisement controlled by their American mother-company to sell an American lifestyle.
Big deal, it's a global economy. Your point?
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This sucks. Here's my question: What do you think of sites like this, and their impact on the development of taco-snotting?
Microsoft's prior cluster of products and technologies was "DNA", and then you couldn't really figure out what a "DNA" solution was: COM, SQL Server 7, IIS, etc.
.NET Components, SQL Server 2000, IIS 5.1, etc.
Now it's ".NET":
I see an Indian national or someone from Signapore resign from their position at a large company like Veritas, I won't believe that they are as skilled at lying as their American counterparts.
Maybe they could get the head football coaching job at Notre Dame, but CIO or CEO? no way.
"For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
I have read about your involvement with the EFF and the "Living without Microsoft" blog on silliconvalley.com.
However, as much as I and many others on Slashdot agree with these causes, do you believe that as a journalist your involvement with the EFF etc, has made you biased? And if not why?
Thanks,
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What career advice would you give to people in IT in the 21st century.
There is an almost hemmoraging debate occuring right now regarding the DMCA, and DRM in general. On the one side of the debate, there are programmers and designers who understand the importance of IP and how it maintains thier salaries. On the other side, many technologists believe that DRM threatens the future of technology by disallowing free experimentation. Both sides of the issue appear to be absolutely correct. Turning every general purpose computer into a "protected appliance" will mean the end of an era for all of us, but abandoning DRM will effectively nullify the ability to make "content for profit". How can we save the "future" of technology, and at the same time ensure that we can continue to make a living? Has there been any murmuring in SV about this problem? Is there a light at the end of this tunnel?
The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky
My point is that IT workers living in America require "hefty" salaries. Nobody's going to want to be a programmer in America for less than $20-$25 an hour; the cost of living is simply too high.
So how are they supposed to compete with Indians who will do it for $5/hour?
Programmers in America see themselves as professionals. The ones who do it on the cheap in India, don't. If this trend continues, there won't be many (or any) programmers in America, because the work will all have been outsourced to somebody who will do it for 5 times less than s/he is worth.
If somebody living in another country is genuinely a better person for the job, then by all means, that's great. I hope that Americans get German contracts, and Germans get American contracts. And everyone pays each other a fair wage for the work.
But no German is going to work for 10 DM an hour doing programming.
If Indians were to charge the rates that are commensurate with the task, that too would be fine in my eyes. My problem is simply that it hurts everyone when workers of a certain type are undervalued.
American's keep blaming everyone but themselves for their problems. A little personal accountability goes a long way.
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You think there's a deeper meaning to the constant need to upgrade and upgrade even further? Do we really need more technology (specifically, IT products)?
More than mere navel gazing.
Security is a term being tossed around by everyone currently (Microsoft, Intel, US Government etc)
Do you believe That Palladium is a sincere attempt on Microsofts/intel/etc part to offer secure Computing or is it merely a gimmick to cash in on security and remove the open source software as an option to the basic computer User?
Do you see any change in computing Law in the next 20 years in regard to Vendors culpability for security Flaws?
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I am a computer professional with twenty years of experience in the computer field. I do a variety of jobs, including programming and system administration. I know my computer stuff and I'm still in my (very late) twenties.
I am, however, getting sick of what passes for operating systems and applications these days. Many of my tech-savy friends are taking a serious look at Apple hardware and software 'because it just works'. The company I work for runs a collection of Windows and Linux machines. With Windows machines, we have to spend far too much time keeping the system patches and antivirus software up to date and generally managing them. I love Linux and use it all the time but I am still very aware that I am using a Linux system, not just a 'computer'.
And I am tired of it. Why should I have to care about the operating system? I want to use the computer to do my job. I don't want to fight with patches. I don't want to reinstall software and spend hours tuning the configurations. I'll do that for our servers because, at the moment at least, I have to. But why should I spend large part of my day managing the computers rather than just using the damn things? Why don't they just work? Why do I even still care what operating system I am running?
The reason is, of course, fairly obvious. But how do you see this changing over the next decade? Can we get a handle on the complexity? What influence will Apple have? Do you see operating systems becoming to a simple commodity (choose what you want, all your applications will work regardless)?
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Sure. But how is this different than the situation of the workers in, say, the computer hardware industry? Taiwanese mainboard designers are cheaper than US designers, too. Or how about steelworkers? Or even the sports shoe industry?
You and I, we already compete with the "foreign" competition in software development, just like any other worker in any other industry does.
In your original question you implied that software development is mainly a US industry. It never was, it isn't and it won't be in the future.
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J2EE vs .Net in a room, with some knives: who wins? (Maybe with Perl, Ruby, Python in there for good measure)
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What advice would give to a young tech valley?
A hand up and a foot on every chest...
Microsoft, a convicted monopolist, runs on something approaching 95% of desktop computers. It is seen by the rest of the world as a U.S. company.(not a strong endorsement in many quarters)Its code is closed, not open and is therefor (my opinion) insecure in that no one but Microsoft (and maybe the U.S. gov't) knows the back doors. What government in their right minds would willingly choose such a platform to run their future on. Especially given the availablity of "free", open software capable of doing the job. Witness Germany and KDE.
So the question is... Has Microsoft reached its apogee? Has it seen its best days from a growth and profitability standpoint? & if so is this a good or bad thing for IT & Silicon Valley?
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Wanted to comment on that one:
Programmers in America see themselves as professionals. The ones who do it on the cheap in India, don't.
I strongly doubt that. This is like saying back in the 70s that "US car workers see themselves as professionals, yet those who do it in the cheap in Japan don't." This may tickle your ego, but you evade the problem that they offer a similar or better product for a lower price.
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hmm. Maybe I should become a doctor. It's hard to outsource medicine. Or better yet, a lawyer. I could fight the good fight. You think they'll let a CS grad into law school? sounds like a nice nitch.
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I don't know if you remember me but we sat together at the IOAC conference in Cupertino back in 1998. I still impress my friends with that story. Anyways, what I want to know is:
If two trains are exactly 150 miles apart and one of them heads north on the tracks at 30 mph heading into wind gust of 25 mph which only occur at 15 second intervals for exactly 10 seconds and the second one heads south at 27 mph on a 15 degree incline with a crosswind of 12 mph at an angle of 42 degrees, how long will it take for them to meet?
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that is a really simple answer....
Host content that people are willing to pay for.
yup that's right... you have to have something of value for them to pay for it. Many many sections of Internet industry does make gobs of money from subscribers.... Porn is the best example.. people pay for porn. If you had a information source that a large segment of the population would pay for.... Example... downloadable 320x240 Divix's of television shows that are past the air date... and I'm talking only the past 7 days worth. to hell with an extended archive of the past year/ etc..
I'd pay $2.00 to download (hear that word DOWNLOAD.. for me to copy from you and put on my computer so I can view it 90,000,000,000,000,000 times on all 30 of my computers at home) of "good eats" or "enterprise" or "junkyard wars" or whatever... and I'm a guy that despises television... the true addicts would swarm all over it and make whoever figures out how to offer it a multi quadrillionare.
you have to offer something people want. not what the 95% of all the websites on this planet offer.
you need to be innovative.. which is something htat is not common on the internet in respect to websites and the ideas behind them. get the networks to allow you to sell low-quality copies of just-aired shows 48 hours after the show was aired, and offer them hefty royalties... ($2.00 a download? the Network get's $1.00 of that!) and you can probably make it fly.
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People say Linux, OSX or Windows is the game to play. Seems that for a desktop environment Windows has been a success because of it's advantage early in the race for supremacy, which is true but it's stranglehold must be accounted to the idea that it's installed base now is so huge that to make a dent in that market is nigh impossible because of compatibility. My question is, do you think it's time for a serious developers to make OS interoperability the crux of their development, thus allowing a true choice? Windows is here to stay but what's needed is the possibility for the general computer users to have interoperable file formats which can be opened on any OS, thus clearing the way for true competition. It may be a pipe dream but running Wine and Virtual PC to emulate windows is half baked and to really make a difference you need to liberate the consumer without attacking the OS directly. I foresee many problems and a few flaws (some big) in my thinking but would like your take on this.
Posting anonymously because I've already moderated this discussion.
I disagree. There must be millions of truly professional programmers in India. It's not lack of respect or professionalism that keeps their salaries down, it's the much lower cost of living there. In Bangalore five bucks an hour buys a lot of nice things.
In part, we Americans are being burned by the high value of the US dollar. And in part, this is just a very expensive place to live, even in the cheaper areas.
As linux overtakes Solaris, other Unices, and M$ Windows in the server and workstation tiers, it could be a huge boon to businesses that use this technology. At the same time, could it actually hurt those employed at various levels of the high-tech industry? For example if linux is more efficient and scalable, might it:
Please note that I'm not decrying this potential effect of the use Linux or free software. If our industry is too fat (especially on the support side) then great. . . it should be cut down and people retrained. But it seems logical that the free software movement will cause efficiencies that will force a good percentage of this work-sector to "get with the program or get off the bus". The problem is that without consistent innovation at the business layer (businesses' use of technology) then the tech industry may not expand enough to allow retraining as a saviour for disenfranchised MCSEs, CNEs, etc. etc. If most businesses are content with basic file-serving, routing and printing without investing in technology then many people will just plain lose their jobs.
It seems to me that M$ has created a bubble with their inefficient and unreliable software. A LOT of people are employed to keep that junk working. In effect, businesses are subsidizing this "ill" part of the industry by throwing employees at a series of problems M$ has created. Similarly, forced dependence, and file incompatibilites, have allowed M$ to maintain a pricing bubble for software basics such as word-processing and simple spreadsheets. If they lose the OS war to free software and some of the office-turf to openoffice won't the air go out of a lot of balloons? Should people be bracing themselves for this?
I've wondered about these issues for a while and I'm sure you have much better insight into these topics than I do. What is your take?
No, he didn't. He was asking specifically about the health of the US software industry, of which Dan Gilmour is a pundit.
But how is this different than the situation of the workers...
It's not--and he never said it was. I'm sure many /. readers would agree that there are equally unfair working conditions for exported steel jobs, car jobs, and hardware manufacturing. But again, the topic stated in the article focuses on a journalist who covers the US software industry. No one's trying to be short-sighted about globalism.
This is like saying back in the 70s that "US car workers see themselves as professionals, yet those who do it in the cheap in Japan don't
This is totally wrong and irrelevant. Japanese line workers during the 70s and 80s enjoyed a very similar lifestyle to UAW members. Japan was not and is not a third-world country. Cheap cars != cheap employment. The poster's talking about Indian workers who are the IT industry's equivalent of sweat-shop workers. And no, no one's saying that ALL or MOST of India's IT people are on the cheap.
When do you expect people will take security/privacy issues seriously enough to guide their choices of products/services providers accordingly ? Will they ever ?
Is security/privacy something providers of goods/services should take care of, or is it the end-users problem to deal with it ?
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Obviously, these updates would not be compatible with another implementation of windows, and therefore there will always be a neverending incompatibility with any software that attempts to emulate windows.
So, unfortuneately, replacing windows cannot be done by "embracing and extending" it. Which leaves Linux and other competitors with the chicken and egg problem with regard to applications.
Sooo... what we need is a really good geneticist who can build a chicken(or egg) from scratch ;-)
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
Is there a possiblity that we could get a "Winux?"
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Why do your articles *look* like they target a 7-year old? What's up with 3/4th of the page taken up by useless graphics?
BTW, this is a serious question.
Do you feel that homestarrunner.com is more of an autumn, or is it obviously a summer.
Personally, I think I'm a winter, it might be my eyes.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
Did you think you could get a set of questions from /. without seeing things like:
-Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Dan's!
-Someone asking if your answers could fit in 640k.
-Why you would mod this parent down?
-Why don't you get a Cowboy Neal option for idiotic questions/readers?
I would have thrown in the vi vs. emacs but it really is someone's question... Thanks!
At this current time, we can all see price wars going on at the momment, undercutting, spamming for special offers, pop-up [shudder] adverts, and so forth, and whilst this is nothing new, how do you forsee this heading in the next few years?
Are we going to see the gradual upgrading of prices, as everyone starts charging for software, to get the funds of the "Big Companies" and therefore develop programs which have a hope of selling, or are we going to see everything becoming cheaper and cheaper, with advertising in programs, so that more and more of the programs will be bought at a lower price, ending up with the cheap programs selling a lot more than the more expensive programs, with a higher turnover?
Or will we see everything turn shareware, with an additional fee to remove the adverts and so forth, but for everything?
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Will offshore outsorcing to South America and India continue through this decade?
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Why is so much of the 'reporting' on and even ratings of and published recommendations of tech products based on what the maker says the product will do (ie feature lists) and so little based on actual performance (ie quality)? After buying a few highly-rated products way too buggy to use, why would anyone want to pay any attention to the press anymore?
I fear and believe that IT is increasingly becoming blue collar, until one day well be about as usefull as mechanics, and pay'd somewhere near the same, what do you think?
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Well, some programmers went to school for 4 or 5 years ( I went to a five-year school) for this profession. It's apples and oranges to compare semi-skilled work to something that (at most sensible companies, anyway, and ignoring the dot.com hysteria over art-majors turned "Webmasters") requires a degree.
I didn't realize mainboard design was being done in Taiwan. As for the other professions, how much investment was put into their profession? And how many tariffs are placed on their products vs. software that is outsourced to India?
Can you imagine how much we'd hear about this if doctors or lawyers were being "outsourced" Or journalists? Programming is for professionals, and many companies and government bureacrats are working to make it appear otherwise.
I know Hanno responded to this already but if I may say so, that's quite an arrogant statement. Developers in Bangalore do not require nearly as much money as they would have living in, say, San Jose for instance. So why would that make them not feel as if they were professionals? Indeed, they can live like princes on what it takes to barely scrape by in California and they have a job which puts them at nearly the top of the heap with plenty of prestige in their home.
Welcome to the recessionary job market. To a company, you are worth exactly what you accept in payment. If you cannot get what you *feel* you are worth, then either find a new company that will hire you or start your own.
Being a conservative in nature it is a shame to see all these votes going to the Democrats...
On a side note, I can't wait for foreign software development to be taxed like imported cars are.
You're a funny sort of conservative.
To a company, you are worth exactly what you accept in payment
And if being a programmer is worth $5/hr, then sorry, third-world outsourcing has made software production a non-professional trade.
When these jobs are outsourced, it's not as though IBM (to pick a random example) hires ten specific people to code up a program for them. They just hire some consulting company that grabs ten free people, and may or may not replace them midway through the project, at the end of the project (leaving someone else behind to support it), etc.
They're not being treated as one would treat professionals. They're essentially to the software world what migrant labor is to farming.
I know Hanno responded to this already but if I may say so, that's quite an arrogant statement.
Nope, I think it's a perfectly valid statement. And I think that's because "professionalism" means different things to Americans vs. Indians. I have worked side-by-side with Indians who were "found out" not to have the skills they said they had on their resumes, and they didn't show the least bit of guilt, and other Indian co-workers didn't show any moral outrage (like the American/Canadians did) at the admittance of guilt. It was just par for the course.
The project manager wanted to throttle the one guy who managed to slip past HR. Luckily, that individual didn't last two weeks thanks to a responsible PM. But others dragged on for months, before co-workers raised enough stink about incompetence and LYING and COVERING UP problems instead of dealing with the issues.
There were a few Indian who seemed to "get it" as far as the cultural differences went, but many others just kept right on with their brand of "professionalism". It truly was a sight to behold - and because of political correctness (they were getting paid roughly equivalent to citizen programmers, so it wasn't cheaper to keep them by any means), most stayed, when any Americans exhibiting same traits would have been booted long ago...also some stupid American managers are under the dumb racist notion that "Indians/Asians are smarter than Americans".
Will the DMCA be overturned or changed? Will the freedom-loving internet/technology community ever be able to coalesce and become an effective lobbying organization to effect politics in a real way (e.g. the NRA, the farm lobby, Microsoft)?
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Programmers in America see themselves as professionals. The ones who do it on the cheap in India, don't.
$5/hr affords a very comfortable lifestyle in India. The programmers are well-rewarded for their efforts, in comparison to the cost of living where they reside.
In comparison, a McDonalds grill-cook makes $5-6/hr here in FL, but makes $8-10/hr in Manhattan. You'd be hard pressed to find a lawyer or doctor making less than six figures in New York, but in Tennessee, many live comfortably on $50-70k.
In India, $5/hr buys about as much as $20/hr does here. It's a function of the local economy.
To expand even further, if the power and aura of Silicon Valley is/was a myth, what other myths exist in the IT world that ought to be "outed"? For instance, what percentage of the amount of all IT-related work, contract, in-house, whatever, in the last year or even ten years was devoted to the Internet? Do you think it was as big as it was thought to be?
For example, I work for a "major federal department" which is just now starting to turn to the web and web-related capabilities. (I just got here. It's *not* my fault.) Most of the IT work here is contract or in-house IT software engineering of just about everything using just about everything. I doubt that the big IT customer in the world, DOD, is putting any significant amount of its "Guns" Budget into web services. Maybe in HR, Med, & Contracting, though. What do you think? Just curious. Thanks.
So what do you think?
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What do u think are the chances that we will see computer with which we could converse naturally in the next 15 years. Lot of them had predicted that we would have such systems by 2000, but clearly we are way of the mark. What are the other possible interface do u think have potential?
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Why is it that IT style is so godawful: polo shirts, Saturn sedans.
Is there any hope, or should we all be sent to camps?
TiVo and like technologies are affect the way product marketting is done.
Do you see it affecting political advertising, and if so how?
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In a few more years, when all of the paper MCSEs that never had a clue to begin with are working at McDonald's and the rest of the decent programmers, admins, and engineers have gone back to school and moved on to other careers, do you think there will be a sudden resurgence in high paying IT jobs?
Right now it's an employers market, they have the luxury of sifting through hundreds of resumes to find the lackey that fits best and works for the least money....will they have this same luxury in 5 more years when their networks are falling apart and they can't find a decent tech to save their lives?
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I'm still tryin' to figure out where the hell CowboyNeal fits into all of this. Will you shed some light on that subject?
Does windows suck as much as IT's?
The industry does not seem to reward domain knowledge and IT experience in general. Developer pay and market desirability seems to peak at about 7 years and then drops off.
Do you think that it is really harder to teach old dogs new tricks, or that there is some other factor(s) at play here?
I personally think that the things that experience helps with are too subtle and long-term to be noticed by most managers. Also, older developers are understandably less enthusiastic about changes just for the sake of change itself. In other words, more cynicism after seeing the patterns of (what we view as) management naivity repeat. I wonder if you concur.
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Do you see the use of graphical languages such as the one being developed by Mr. Charles Simonyi's company, Intentional Software Company, as a practical and powerful enough tool to develop robust and secure software?
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I too would be happy to pay a couple of bucks to DOWNLOAD a copy of my favorite shows. Especially if they are commercial free! and I'm sure that MANY other people I know would do the same. Why can't the big media companies understand this concept!?!?
I know, they are afraid that copyright violations will destroy their revenue. Guess what, I DON'T illeagally download stuff! What options does that leave me? Tape it off TV or go without.
Again, I too would be happy to pay a couple of bucks (say $1 USD per 1/2 hour of content -- maybe more if the commercials are stripped) just for the convenience.
The people running the media companies aren't idiots. They are fairly smart business people, but I think they are simply scared without reason.
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Oh yeah? Well, software developers in India get degrees in college just like you and I. But the dollar amount a person makes isn't relevant since it is completely relative to the economy in which you live. Just because you couldn't make ends meet on $5 an hour being a 'professional' where you live doesnt mean one doing the same task and having relatively equivalent skills can't be considered a professional where they are. Ok, so the fellow in India gets handed your job for a US company for $5 an hour and works at it for a few months. Then he accepts an offer to work an India-based job for an India based company for the same amount of money. So is he still not a professional in your eye?
How long before the net wakes up and admits that DNS is a very poor directory service and prods the various trademark registries into providing on-line lookups to applications (like mozilla, or IE) ?
> All software is broken.
My point is that IT workers living in America require "hefty" salaries. Nobody's going to want to be a programmer in America for less than $20-$25 an hour; the cost of living is simply too high.
I'll take it!
I have been programming all my life. It is my *only* marketable skill. I don't have a choice.
I would rather program for 8$/hr than flip burgers for 8$/hr.
Anybody out there with a min.wage programming job avilable in the US? I'll lie about my citizenship even! I'll gladly take it. I don't like flipping burgers, and have ZILCH other options.
Just let me write and maintain code instead of spending all day sending out resumes to black holes. I miss loops and subroutines etc.
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.net is. Essentially, .net allows you to code things in many languages simultaneously. You can use differnet languages in the same project and it will let you write one function in c++ and another in java and a third in f#.
sometimes when your coding things, say, a hashing function in java, or a pattern matching function in cobol, and you think to yourself, "JESUS! this would be so damned easy in perl! this would be a peice of cake in ML! why cant i just write this in perl or ML?"
thats what
how can that be? c++ has a different data structure for a string than java does? How can i just pass a string from one function to another and expect it to have meaningful value? thank god, thats not your problem. That was microsoft's. And (supposedly) they have gotten it to work fairly well.
How will this help you? well in real life, it will probably not be worth the annoyance to code things in multiple languages, but once the floodgates are open, you can now code a stored procedure in sql using c# or smalltalk. in ie7, you'll probably be able to write scripts in any language you want instead of just vbscript and javascript. Basically, it will allow you to code in any language anytime you want to code anything at all, and that will likely come in handy.
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That's one person's experience- yours. I personally have worked with many Indians in several jobs whose competence and hard work outshone most of their peers- and it had nothing to do with any cultural differences they just knew what they were programming and worked their butts off. And if you check the news headlines you'll note that stuffing a resume with bullshit is practiced by all ethic groups, including officer level employees running companies.
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Hear, hear Hanno, great post. I could not have said it better. For all the people that want to restrict competition you are only driving up prices for everybody else. If U.S. quality is better then we don't have to worry about the Indians, if it isn't then why should people pay more for U.S. software development? In a free market there will always be a niche if we are clever enough to find it. We should not fear change and artificially limit competition.
As member of Customer Support at the company I work at now, I've found its nearly impossible at a lot of companies to move up. This may not fall under the 'IT' conception of a small company with a few Unix/NT/Network Admin.s, but I'm curious what your thoughts and suggestions are for viable ways to seek promotion and the skills required for it. Which skills are the most important, and the toughest to learn/rarest to find?
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What effect do you think offshore development will have in the software development job market? 10 years from now, do you think most development will be offshore and the US developers will be a dying species?
Yes, you can code in many languages. Provided, of course, you're willing to buy an alternate .net language tool to do the job. Sounds like it's a good way for ActiveState and other vendors to rake in the dough along with MS. As an independent developer, I prefer not to complicate my life.
The underpinnings of .net and all of MS' products going forward, where it comes to interop, is XML. XML is the language that describes data. XML Schema, in particular, is the part of XML that allows two computers to agree on a common definition of data that both understand. XML, and XML Schema, is what drives this inter-language capability. Every other platform and software product will have an XML feature set from now on. The standard for XML Schema has come along; when we get standards for authentication and security with XML and web services, .net may be irrelevant. If my machines at both ends understand XML and XML Schema, it doesn't matter whether I'm using .net on Windows, J2EE, or Kylix 3 on Linux-- XML facilitates real interoperability. And yes, I can use whatever language I want.
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1. Microsoft CAN infinitely change windows AND keep compatibility. They've been doing this for years, look how much has changed from Win 95 to XP. They just keep adding new "features" that new programs will require.
2. How many programs REQUIRE IE 4/5? This is just the obvious example. I've installed more than one non-MS app that came with the latest service pack just in case it wasn't already installed. For a year or two at my company, we'd use the installation CD from a program to install a particular service pack...
Granted, not too many third party apps do that, however, keeping up with windows is a HUGE hurdle.
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1. Will there be a role for Lone inventors in the future in the IT industry ( or any other industry) ?
2. Back in the past, there were visions of the future by 'everyone'. Has the present matched *your* vision of the future ?
> So how are they supposed to compete with
> Indians who will do it for $5/hour?
I live in India, I'm a programmer and have a higher wage than $5 per hour.
> Programmers in America see themselves as
> professionals. The ones who do it on the cheap
> in India, don't.
This is simply not true. We view ourselves as professionals, too.
It's just that $10 per hour in India is A LOT of money, you can buy a lot of things on such a salary and live a very good life.
Obviously with all of these computers around and more and more selling (even if the rate of sale is dropping) there is still going to be a need for Hardware and Software guys (and gals!) of some sort, but the question comes up, how should a person best go about their training?
Is a 2 year technicians program with a few good certs worth it, or a CS/CE degree? What about the more specialized four year degrees (database and such), how are they going along?
I guess another way to phrase the question would be, what is the most versatile degree or type of training that a person can have in the IT field that opens up the most number of job opportunities to them?
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If justice were fully served, meaning the law of the land was perfectly executed and violations punished as intended by the framers of the laws themselves (iow, an idealized situation), do you think that criminal penalty, such as actual jail time, would be called for in the case of Microsoft and/or it's officers?
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How long before I.T. unions are as big as other unions. Or do you think that the current unions will join together to form one large union?
I had this questions myself. It's been said that creating a IT union would be like herding cats, but the sway all IT workers could hold as a union would be phenominal.
For example. Imagine you as the only IT worker for a company. Your boss decides to make you work on his daughter's F-ed up laptop after hours. Instead of having to suck it up and not get fired, you can tell him that you cannot be forced to do this, and will walk if forced or even strike. Then the IT union blacklists the company. Good luck to that company in finding someone when its name is posted to every website (IT or otherwise) in the world.
Not to mention having this in gov sector. Having a large yet benevolent NGO to add its say to legislation. The DMCA might not have been created. Who wants to legislate something that will cause a nationwide tech walkout?
The only problem is everyone would need to buy into it to make it effective. Software and Hardware companies, computer repair places, software trainers, everybody involved in the process.
After doing a search on Google I managed to easily find this site http://itworkers-alliance.org/home/join.html, but the question is then posed to our interviewee. How possible is it to have a large (possibly nationwide) IT/tech Union?
In India, $5/hr buys about as much as $20/hr does here. It's a function of the local economy.
The solution then is to move to India........However their Gov there has F'd up that country. I wish Indians would pressure their gov to shape up instead of work so hard to get US work. It is said that American's are "complainers". However, complaining is how we keep our gov representatives in check. Too many citizens of other countries just bend over and take it without resistence.
I invite all you Indians to make India a better place instead of try to suck work out of the U.S. You have a democracy over there, boot it in the ass and get it to toss the stupid special-interest-pandering economic rules.
(Too bad we can't do the same here with our damned farmers, the new welfare kings/queens of the 2000's.)
East Indians have the discipline, education, and population to be a great economic power, even rivaling the US due to its sheer population size. However, your gov is holding you back.
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They're not being treated as one would treat professionals. They're essentially to the software world what migrant labor is to farming.
"Professional" means that you have political and/or trade groups that protect your behind from the onslaught of cheap foriegn labor.
If you opened the border up to all doctors and lawyers, you would see the same thing happen to them too (after the schools ramp up a bit).
We IT professionals (laborers?) need to protect our political ass or risk becoming treated like bar-coded boxes on a cargo ship.
Sad but true.
Why aren't lawyers coming from India? Because Indians can't "cut it"? Hell no! It is political protection. Even truck drivers have more political protection than programmers, and their wages are currently higher (or at least in more demand).
Table-ized A.I.
What is your ultimate motivation in life? Why do you keep following the high-tech industry? Are you simply a geek or do you see yourself interested in completely different things as time evolves? Would you define yourself as a 21st century "humaniste"?
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Yes I am a funny conservative. I have NO problem competing against anyone in the world, BUT I pay way over 60% of my income in TAXES! Thank God I don't smoke or drink, or it could be worse.
If taxes were around 0%, then I could work for the amount foreign coders make. All I want is a level playing field which makes me sound liberal, but I would love to see the field leveled by taxes being lowered. That of course if NEVER going to happen. So hense my stance on this issue.
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Has there been much response to your column identifying decentralization and energy independence as a critical national security issues?
Because all the large media companies want to protect the copyright and inflated prices of music and video, there is a possible result that nobody seems to have considered: They will simply fade away and be replaced by a completely new industry which is happy with large volumes, lower prices and completely new artists. My sense is that there is a vast pool of talent out there available to replace the few megastars. The one question I have: How will I get the know about new artists? Who will editorialize and review them for me?
Are you kidding? The medical system thrives on the fresh blood of oversea students doing their medical residencies in U.S hospitals where they are paid as little as 30k for working 120 hour weeks. Every second block has a doctor's office and many doctor's in the U.S are also from India. Nurses are now coming in from India on H1b's as well because "there are not enough trained nurses" (i.e the wages and conditions are so crappy that noone wants to be one)
Yep. I know some application developers here in southern california making *9* dollars/hour.
I cant even tell you how sick that makes me :)
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